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15:04.01romanovic~cricket
15:04.01ibotSystem for monitoring trends in time-series data. URL: http://www.munitions.com/~jra/cricket/
15:04.22romanovicwas looking for a sound effect, ibot
15:05.57mindjujuso is PHP-APC strictly for PHP or does it serve a memcache capacity too?
15:06.46josephscottAPC is just for PHP
15:06.53josephscottdoesn't interact with memcached at all
15:07.06josephscotthowever, APC does having caching functions of its own
15:07.15mindjujuk, thats what i thought
15:07.43mindjujuthx!
15:08.52herlomindjuju: they can be used together, like we are doing with magento, btw
15:18.24macnewbold~rlart
15:18.25ibotturns fungus into a lifesized tux doll
15:23.19josephscottI think FB used to do a mix of APC and memcached
15:23.27josephscottfor caching
15:23.44josephscottif the same request hit the same server, the APC based cache likely got a hit
15:24.01josephscottand that reduced the network load because it didn't need to talk to memcached for everything
15:24.21josephscottfor most places, the opposite usually makes more sense
15:24.33josephscotta couple of web servers, which centralized caching with memcached
15:25.16herlojosephscott: yeah, I think that's the direction we're leaning
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16:00.10josephscottmindjuju: don't be greedy - http://devour.com/video/the-black-hole/
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16:02.35mindjujuthat's awesome!
16:06.47herlohaha, that's good
16:08.00herloSunSparc: the video posted above
16:12.09mindjujusunsparc wasn't here for the link
16:12.14mindjuju@sunsparc, here you go
16:12.15mindjuju(10:00:09 AM) josephscott: mindjuju: don't be greedy - http://devour.com/video/the-black-hole/
16:13.59herloSunSparc: oh, I have joins/parts on ignore
16:18.11SunSparcmindjuju: herlo:  Cool short.
16:22.42herloprobably
16:22.50josephscottwow, Utah is serious about web security - http://markup.io/v/r0ke6mgjesrr
16:25.54josephscottmindjuju: does this channel get archived any where on the web?
16:26.05mindjujuyes
16:26.07mindjujuibot logs
16:26.07ibotAll conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily
16:27.00mindjujucurious, i didn't mean that as an invocation, but as a response, but it replied with an applicable answer; serendipity
16:27.02mgearyhey hey, "Lines starting with spaces are not logged"
16:27.17mgeary<PROTECTED>
16:27.24herlolol
16:27.37mindjuju?
16:28.03mindjujuhow did you know?
16:28.18mgearyall your base
16:28.30josephscotthow do we teach ibot the log URL is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23uphpu/
16:28.47josephscottug, should just drop the # from the URL
16:28.53mgearyibot, no logs is also the log URL is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23uphpu/
16:28.53ibotokay, mgeary
16:28.56mgearydoh
16:28.58mgeary~logs
16:28.58ibotAll conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily, or the log URL is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23uphpu/
16:29.04mindjuju<PROTECTED>
16:29.13herloyeah
16:29.17mindjujulike he's in botpark as perl
16:29.23mindjujuand he's in #utah as ibot i think
16:29.27mindjuju~seen ibot
16:29.47ibotibot <~ibot@rikers.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #botpark, 142d 17h 9m 16s ago, saying: 'bonjour, myrk'.
16:29.47herloluckily, when you update a bot in one channel it isn't supposed to affect the other channel
16:29.47mindjujusure it does
16:29.59mindjujulike all my commands are in #utos
16:30.02mindjujuand elsewhere
16:30.15mindjujuin fact, when wanting to do a surprise command on somebody, i susally program it in botpark
16:30.41josephscott~rlart
16:30.42iboturinates on eco
16:30.48mindjujuwow
16:30.56josephscottcommon ibot, that was lame
16:30.56macnewbold~monkey mindjuju
16:30.57ibotACTION flings poo at mindjuju
16:32.41josephscottsix years worth of logs - http://ibot.rikers.org/%23uphpu/ - nice
16:32.44mindjujuthx macnewbold
16:32.54mindjuju~poo macnewbold
16:32.54ibotACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at macnewbold
16:33.12mindjujuso instead of just ibot fling poo, i had several monkeys do so
16:33.40mindjujunot only though, since ibot is a machine and machines don't poo, then the sum total of poo flung at me would be 0
16:33.50SunSparcsix years worth of blackmail fodder
16:33.57mindjujuhowever, the opposite is not the case, and several monkey's poo would be considerable
16:34.04mgearymindjuju: you haven't worked with some of the machine's i've worked with...
16:37.30mgearyi feel like i'm wading through crap every time i work on a Windows machine
16:38.03macnewbold~monkeypoo SunSparc
16:38.14macnewbold~lart mgeary
16:38.14ibotpushes the wall down onto mgeary whilst whistling innocently
16:38.17macnewbold~lart windows
16:38.17ibotacting on orders from an unspecified client drags windows into court suing for $200 million
16:38.26mgearyin honor of the day...
16:38.28mgeary~itunes
16:38.28ibotextra, extra, read all about it, itunes is a badass media manager/player that lets the user make "smart" playlists, or the DRM nazi. getting out of the DRM ring, or fail
16:39.55mgearyor oblivious
16:40.00SunSparc:)
16:43.21herloNovember Rain
16:43.27herloGuns N Roses
16:43.47herlotrue
16:43.57josephscottmindjuju: beandog: http://devour.com/video/cartoon-medley/ the blue screen edging is a bit rough
16:50.33herlookay, so here's my question of the day...
16:51.20herloI'm working on a deployment process, which will likely involve some scm (svn, primarily) and deploy it to first a staging box, then to a set of production boxes.
16:52.16herlohowever, there is more than one application to deploy, and I don't like the way capistrano requires me to have my deploy configs integrated with my application.
16:52.52herloI essentially want to be able to specify the root path to deploy from, which I could do by hand I suppose...
16:53.33herloI also want the flexibility of using rsync instead of an scm in some cases, though I'm not particularly crazy about this idea.
16:53.38herloanyone have a suggestion??
16:59.53SunSparcherlo: we have implemented a build and deployment process that uses apt-get packages instead of svn.
17:01.08herlointeresting
17:02.18SunSparcThat cartoon medley is long and quite comprehesive.
17:03.00herloSunSparc: what tools did you use?  Or was it more of a custom process?
17:03.10SunSparcherlo: Custom
17:03.36SunSparcOther than apt-get for the installation of updates.
17:03.53herloSunSparc: building dpkg files and then putting them in a repo??
17:04.13herlothen having the systems pull the new updates on a regular basis??
17:04.22SunSparcMakes it nice though.  We have a "build server" where we do the building.  Then on whatever server needs updates we just run an apt-get update call.
17:04.37herloyeah, okay.  I've done that sort of thing...
17:05.32SunSparcWe decided that while svn is handy for that sort of thing, we did not like how every install just kept growing larger and larger because svn keeps everything, for evar,
17:06.31herloyeah, I'm a big fan of git anyway
17:06.59SunSparcI want to be, but I have not jumped in yet.
17:07.22herloif you need help at some point, let me know...
17:07.33herlobut for this project, I'll probably be using svn anyway
17:07.50SunSparcI know we have quite a few git'ers in here.
17:07.56herlo:)
17:08.25herloSunSparc: my plan is to build this from scratch at the moment, but I like the idea of using capistrano as a leverage point...
17:09.34herlojust don't like where it leads me and its requirement to be in the app directory
17:09.42herloto deploy
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18:11.55macnewboldanyone in here interested in applying for a php dev job at skullcandy? you'd be working a lot on magento most likely.
18:13.42herloooh, fun!
18:18.08macnewboldherlo is exempt
18:18.21macnewboldbut thanks for backing me up, homie
18:19.25herlolol
18:19.53herloI'm no php dev, just a dabbler compared to you, my friend :)
18:20.10mgearyis magento decent? we audited all commerce packages we could find a couple of years ago, threw our hands up in disgust, and built our own
18:20.45mgearythe critical failing they all had was that they couldn't work with a pre-existing users table
18:21.09mgearyso if you were adding commerce to a complex app, you either had to kill yourself on some hacked-in integration, or make your users have 2 logins
18:24.14macnewboldmgeary: yeah, i like it, but it's a bit of a love hate thing too
18:24.32macnewboldthere are ways to handle that pretty well in magento though
18:24.44macnewboldmost do an import into magento's user table I think
18:25.05macnewboldbut ther are also APIs and stuff that would let you keep ystuff in sync or you could build an extension of some kind
18:32.42mgearycool
18:58.15thebigdogmgeary that is a way to solve that with views, triggers and stored procedures ;)
18:58.25mgearytrue
18:59.07thebigdogwhich is not too bad..i have done it a few times with forum software and builtin boards
18:59.48thebigdogbut then you have issues with the database if they dont support that stuff
19:27.34influxDoes someone here have access to a copy of ie6 on their machine?
19:27.41influxI need to verify something that litmus is showing me.
19:29.03Utah_DaveAnybody else having fun with their free aws server today?  :)
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20:38.18mindjujufree aws server?
20:38.23mindjujuutah_dave?
20:39.04Utah_Daveyeah, if you sign up for a new account, they'll let you use a linux micro instance for free for a year, plus a bunch of other stuff like rds, etc
20:39.19mindjujuhave URL?
20:39.27Utah_Daveaws.amazon.com
20:42.10mindjujuawesome, thx
20:42.26Utah_Daveno problem.
20:45.08Utah_DaveOh, wait. It looks like it doesn't include rds
20:47.22josephscottfor old school star wars fans - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUtRi011FLY
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20:53.07SunSparcWhat about hard and light core Star Wars fans?
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22:11.38SunSparcFor those on following me on Twitter or Facebook and who have not yet see this, enjoy:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFhk2WJMGCQ
22:17.04herlookay, there a minute twenty of my life I won't get back :(
22:18.09herlos/there/there's/
22:22.08SunSparclol
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