| 00:00.10 | josephscott | ~lart google docs |
| 00:00.10 | ibot | slaps google docs upside the head with a wet fish |
| 00:00.37 | josephscott | I can't open a document I created, while logged into the google account that I was using when I created the document |
| 00:01.15 | josephscott | Google does amazing stuff, but they can not get authentication and accounts right to save their lives |
| 00:16.18 | cedwards | who manages the uphpu website? |
| 00:20.18 | macnewbold | cedwards: you can ask wps if you want |
| 00:20.21 | macnewbold | ~seen wps |
| 00:20.21 | ibot | wps is currently on #utah (6d 1h 41m 20s) #uphpu (6d 1h 41m 20s), last said: '(instead of save)'. |
| 00:29.15 | cedwards | wps: ping |
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| 02:48.37 | herlo | anyone around to help with an apache rewrite question? |
| 03:01.04 | jsmith-away | herlo: Ask away, and we know the answer, we'll help you out? |
| 03:14.54 | herlo | jsmith-away: sure |
| 03:20.51 | herlo | so I have something like this: http://fpaste.org/SzNR/ |
| 03:21.07 | herlo | this is in a .htaccess file |
| 03:22.37 | herlo | jsmith-away: why won't it redirect? |
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| 04:10.23 | herlo | figured it out! with a RedirectMatch |
| 04:34.22 | wps | what can I help you with, cedwards? |
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| 07:10.53 | carmony | crap, its late... |
| 07:11.00 | carmony | I just made this svn commit... |
| 07:11.13 | carmony | Assing assets area for assets.example.com |
| 07:11.17 | carmony | instead of adding |
| 08:39.25 | carmony | thought of the night before going to bed... |
| 08:40.24 | carmony | its absolutely amazing what perfect silence, in almost a pitch black room, what I can get done in two hours of uninterrupted silence |
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| 15:20.42 | mindjuju | no way |
| 15:20.54 | mindjuju | sheri, like sheri from NY sheri? |
| 15:21.45 | sheri | hi mindjuju :) |
| 15:21.54 | mindjuju | well how are ya! |
| 15:22.02 | mindjuju | i see you've been twitting lately |
| 15:22.05 | sheri | good! |
| 15:22.06 | sheri | hah |
| 15:22.09 | mindjuju | or maybe it is that i've started paying attention |
| 15:22.41 | sheri | I mostly use twitter for entirely unimportant things |
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| 15:23.16 | mindjuju | so how is life up there? |
| 15:23.29 | mindjuju | did you ever get interwebs or are you at a coffee shop? |
| 15:24.16 | sheri | I had terrible cell service before and internet that went down alot (in Plattsburgh last year), but now I'm in Saratoga Springs, NY and it's better |
| 15:24.33 | mindjuju | ah cool |
| 15:24.44 | sheri | I work from coffee shops pretty often though, for sanity |
| 15:24.52 | mindjuju | that's funny |
| 15:25.02 | sheri | :) |
| 15:26.15 | mindjuju | how is automattics treating ya? |
| 15:26.26 | sheri | I love it! |
| 15:26.31 | sheri | I've been traveling a lot |
| 15:26.36 | mindjuju | really? |
| 15:26.42 | mindjuju | any fun places? |
| 15:26.45 | mindjuju | Europe? |
| 15:29.50 | jsmith | Price? |
| 15:29.58 | jsmith | Tremonton? |
| 15:30.08 | jsmith | Levan? |
| 15:30.22 | mindjuju | shoosh you and your zurick travelling ways |
| 15:30.27 | mindjuju | i'm jealous |
| 15:30.33 | sheri | Portugal |
| 15:30.36 | jsmith | mindjuju: Sounds like I'm headed to Germany next month too :-p |
| 15:30.43 | mindjuju | germany! |
| 15:30.48 | sheri | Levan, hehe |
| 15:30.55 | sheri | I even know where that is! |
| 15:31.03 | mindjuju | man, there was this one time when i was in college (the first time) when i almost went to germany |
| 15:31.06 | mindjuju | i SHOULD have gone |
| 15:31.32 | mindjuju | tax return came in at the SAME time american airlines mega cheap weekend tickets email came in |
| 15:31.46 | mindjuju | i had enough for ticket and like a spare $30 |
| 15:31.55 | mindjuju | i thought i could sleep on park bench and check the place out |
| 15:32.49 | mindjuju | should have gone |
| 15:32.59 | mindjuju | so jsmith, what part of germany? |
| 15:33.26 | sheri | I'd like to see some of the castles in Germany |
| 15:33.33 | sheri | Germany is on my list |
| 15:34.44 | mindjuju | jsmith has all the fun, first travel with digium, now with fedora |
| 15:34.46 | mindjuju | too cool |
| 15:34.50 | mindjuju | ...sigh... |
| 15:36.09 | jsmith | mindjuju: The border with Switzerland ... Rheinfelden is the name |
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| 15:40.04 | sheri | I have other random places on my list like Banff, Roatan, Maldives |
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| 15:42.27 | mindjuju | i've got to get to machu pichu before i get too old |
| 15:43.04 | SunSparc | I hope to go to all of those places also. |
| 15:47.08 | sheri | I need to make a bigger list ;) |
| 15:49.56 | josephscott | ~rlart |
| 15:49.56 | ibot | raises middle finger to eco |
| 15:50.26 | mindjuju | that's a new side of you josephscott, that i've never seen |
| 15:50.36 | mindjuju | must be the evil josephscott with the goatee |
| 15:50.38 | josephscott | I blame it on ibot |
| 15:50.47 | mindjuju | and google |
| 15:50.51 | josephscott | haha, yes, that was the alternate universe me |
| 15:52.31 | mindjuju | well, here is reason 5003 for hating hyperV, you can't remote to the hyperV server and expect to use your mouse on a console to a VM |
| 15:52.36 | mindjuju | talk about a design flaw |
| 15:53.08 | mindjuju | i'm like 99% sure i've done this with virtualbox, and 100% on ESX |
| 15:54.30 | mindjuju | bbl |
| 15:56.19 | fungus | I really like ESX, except for the silly Windows requirement for the management tool |
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| 16:35.13 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 16:35.13 | ibot | eats wps and falls over dead |
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| 16:35.38 | DexterTheDragon | ~mourn ibot |
| 16:35.39 | ibot | ACTION lights some candles for ibot |
| 16:35.56 | josephscott | http://devour.com/video/pumpkin-drop/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+devourfeed+(Devour)&utm_content=Google+Reader |
| 16:36.04 | josephscott | now guess where they did that |
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| 16:39.01 | mindjuju | that could have made a lot of pie |
| 16:39.05 | mindjuju | i guess it still could |
| 16:40.15 | josephscott | watch it to the end |
| 16:40.19 | josephscott | mentions the location |
| 16:41.27 | SunSparc | PG, nice |
| 16:41.48 | SunSparc | That is one heckuva pumpkin |
| 17:01.09 | mindjuju | so you got the movie sunsparc? |
| 17:01.56 | SunSparc | No, have not been home to ask my neighbor yet. |
| 17:02.07 | SunSparc | Apparently he has a copy. |
| 17:02.33 | SunSparc | It is good to know that you have a copy also, in case his is out. |
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| 17:52.38 | Jacob_Kerr | Hey does anyone know of a live chat script that will connect to AIM? Or a live chat script that will allow someone on the support end to chat with their customers via cell phone? |
| 17:55.44 | Jacob_Kerr | Oh nvm I found a good one for wordpress: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/oggchat-live-chat-software/ |
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| 18:07.10 | herlo | Jacob_Kerr: there's some good jabber ones too |
| 18:10.00 | mindjuju | anybody here used damn small linux (DSL)? |
| 18:13.50 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: its been awhile |
| 18:14.21 | mindjuju | do you know if htey have apache for DSL? |
| 18:18.21 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: http://ftp.belnet.be/packages/damnsmalllinux/mydsl/ |
| 18:18.22 | mindjuju | i've got a ton of thin clients preloaded with winders xp, and I want to turn them into minions |
| 18:19.32 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: I think you can also enable apt on DSL and use debians repos |
| 18:19.57 | mindjuju | i saw apt, but wasn't sure |
| 18:20.02 | mindjuju | i think i'll try it out |
| 18:20.07 | DexterTheDragon | you run apache on a thin client? |
| 18:21.46 | mindjuju | i'm bored |
| 18:22.14 | mindjuju | actually, i'm in between projects |
| 18:22.20 | herlo | mindjuju: setting up kvm or openvz might be what you want... |
| 18:22.45 | herlo | openvz is nice, but I don't know if it works with winders machines |
| 18:23.08 | mindjuju | oh gotcha |
| 18:23.26 | mindjuju | nope, in this case, i want physical minions |
| 18:23.31 | herlo | less resources per node, and less machines |
| 18:23.42 | herlo | mindjuju: like terminal servers? |
| 18:23.56 | mindjuju | so these minions, I want to scatter around the warehouse and tell me stats about the wifi, network stats, etc |
| 18:24.10 | mindjuju | a check on the wireless access points |
| 18:24.40 | herlo | can't SNMP do most of that with nagios or something?? |
| 18:24.53 | herlo | of course, if you want to test the signal, that might differ |
| 18:25.11 | mindjuju | from the wireless access point, yeah |
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| 19:41.19 | cedwards | simple question: if I have a variable '$a = "foo"', is there any functional difference in print $a[2] vs print $a{2} ? |
| 19:41.52 | cedwards | I've seen it both ways (I prefer the former), but wondered if there was something about one vs the other I wasn't aware of. |
| 19:55.06 | stderr | presumably it's a side effect of their string interpolation implementation, like half of PHP's "features". |
| 19:55.46 | thebigdog | stderr: ^5 |
| 19:56.11 | stderr | ^5 |
| 19:56.35 | stderr | sup thebigdog, long time no chat |
| 19:57.05 | thebigdog | not much...just work man |
| 19:57.10 | stderr | I feel ya |
| 19:57.32 | thebigdog | you living in utah now right? |
| 19:57.47 | stderr | yessir |
| 19:58.07 | mindjuju | and married? |
| 19:58.13 | stderr | yessir |
| 19:58.21 | mindjuju | congrats! |
| 19:58.24 | stderr | danke |
| 19:58.35 | thebigdog | awesome |
| 19:58.48 | thebigdog | where you working at now stderr? |
| 19:59.00 | stderr | Alliance Health, it's a ruby shop |
| 19:59.09 | thebigdog | oh nice |
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| 20:48.29 | mindjuju | so josephscott, i've been watching this |
| 20:48.30 | mindjuju | http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2320369 |
| 20:48.50 | josephscott | any good? |
| 20:48.57 | mindjuju | and i was wondering, all things being equal, the implementation of PHP on nginx v apache, there should be no difference, right? |
| 20:49.08 | mindjuju | well, somebody keeps typing and so it gets disruptive |
| 20:49.13 | mindjuju | but its better than nothing |
| 20:49.16 | mindjuju | and i'm enjoying it |
| 20:49.45 | josephscott | The PHP performance between php-fpm and mod_php should be roughly the same |
| 20:49.58 | josephscott | there are other factors that play into php-fpm's favor though |
| 20:50.32 | mindjuju | i'm not sure if we're using htaccess on the main site |
| 20:50.35 | mindjuju | i'll have to look into that |
| 20:50.40 | mindjuju | that's a bummer though |
| 20:51.52 | herlo | don't do .htaccess, you'll gain performance... |
| 20:52.07 | herlo | of course, you have to turn it off in the config file |
| 20:52.14 | josephscott | generally speaking, anything that involves more work hurts performance |
| 20:52.42 | josephscott | that said, sometimes less performance in order to gain flexibility is worth it. Depends on your needs |
| 20:53.08 | herlo | josephscott: no argument there, but everything you can do in .htaccess, you can do in config files and run relaod |
| 20:53.22 | josephscott | yep |
| 20:53.33 | josephscott | sometimes you don't have to give users access to that though |
| 20:53.47 | josephscott | but still allow them to tweak their own stuff |
| 20:54.09 | mindjuju | but i'm looking at the jump from apache to nginx though and so htaccess functionality is lost on nginx, so it'll have to be ported somehow |
| 20:55.09 | josephscott | correct |
| 20:55.27 | josephscott | most people use htaccess for rewrite rules, which aren't hard to convert to nginx |
| 21:06.58 | mindjuju | so josephscott, one last question for today, i think i've got everything i need to build this out |
| 21:07.07 | josephscott | ok |
| 21:07.39 | mindjuju | but the version num on nginx is .8.53, do you feel it's sturdy enough for production? |
| 21:08.42 | josephscott | personally I'm using nginx/0.7.67, just because that was the package with ubuntu |
| 21:08.58 | josephscott | 0.8.x should be fine - http://nginx.org/en/download.html |
| 21:10.43 | stderr | we're using 0.8.x on numerous production servers. |
| 21:11.28 | mindjuju | you liking it stderr? |
| 21:11.39 | josephscott | yeah, I think we've got 0.8.x running on WordPress.com, I'd have to double check to be sure |
| 21:11.44 | stderr | yessir |
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| 22:46.11 | josephscott | ~rlart |
| 22:46.11 | ibot | teaches stderr the basics, including how to RTM |
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| 22:50.20 | supernovia | any sql gurus want to talk to a guy who probably just needs to start fresh with his data? |
| 22:53.46 | ninnypants | supernovia: I'm no guru but I can try to help. |
| 22:53.48 | macnewbold | ouch - that bad, huh? |
| 22:54.04 | supernovia | someone told him I'm really good with SQL (which I'm not) |
| 22:54.05 | supernovia | I'm okay |
| 22:54.18 | supernovia | but I certainly don't have time nor the inclination to charge this guy for his help |
| 22:54.32 | supernovia | he has a really awful data migration mess |
| 22:54.47 | supernovia | wait, phrased that wrong |
| 22:55.12 | supernovia | I would not want to have this guy hire me because I am not so super skilled that I could do a good job. This would be a paying gig for someone who is really good at it, though. |
| 22:56.39 | mindjuju | depends on how big of guns you need |
| 22:56.54 | mindjuju | but if you're looking for sql jedi master |
| 22:57.04 | mindjuju | prolly eggyknap, but i'm sure he's apretty penny |
| 22:57.18 | mindjuju | thebigdog is also v good with data |
| 22:57.48 | supernovia | probably gonna need some big guns |
| 22:57.52 | supernovia | I don't think I could handle this |
| 22:57.57 | mindjuju | the good thing about eggyknap is that if i'm not mistaken, his has gov clearance |
| 22:58.06 | mindjuju | ah, eggyknap, sup bro |
| 22:58.09 | supernovia | Yeah he has it thoroughly screwed up I'm afraid :( |
| 22:58.16 | eggyknap | That is true, for some definition of "clearance" |
| 22:58.31 | supernovia | he has half new data, half old data, mixed up customer IDs.. :-o |
| 22:58.36 | eggyknap | yeesh. |
| 22:58.48 | supernovia | so if there were a way to solve it.. well.. I certainly wouldn't know how |
| 22:58.54 | supernovia | nor could I manage it during midterms |
| 22:58.59 | eggyknap | heh |
| 22:59.35 | supernovia | If you'd like to consult on it though and see if there's a way to fix it, I'd be happy to send him your way |
| 22:59.59 | eggyknap | Such things are my day job; I'm glad to take a look. |
| 23:00.15 | supernovia | Can I just send him your contact info or would you rather contact him? |
| 23:00.25 | supernovia | I could just CC you on this email. |
| 23:00.45 | supernovia | Okee dokee. |
| 23:01.13 | mindjuju | unless it's bank |
| 23:01.19 | mindjuju | and then, it's lunch for finders fee! |
| 23:01.30 | eggyknap | heh |
| 23:04.32 | eggyknap | Well, at current prices, that beats the last finder's fee I was involved in, which was a box of 9mm JHP |
| 23:05.14 | supernovia | :-D |
| 23:05.43 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:12.00 | supernovia | thanks eggyknap, mindjuju, & ninnypants :) |
| 23:12.03 | supernovia | I'm off again.. what a day! |
| 23:12.09 | mindjuju | cya |
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