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| 03:40.20 | cobbman | hello |
| 03:40.56 | cobbman | i'm looking to join your group meetings |
| 03:41.04 | cobbman | in slc |
| 04:13.29 | herlo | cobbman: visit http://uphpu.org for meeting times and dates, topics, etc... |
| 04:13.51 | herlo | there was a meeting just this last thursday |
| 04:14.42 | cobbman | okay |
| 04:15.18 | cobbman | what is is usually like? i.e. guest speakers, or more like a php lan party? |
| 04:21.13 | herlo | no lan party, php is a programming language, so the presentation(s) are usually focused around php |
| 04:22.02 | herlo | but I wouldn't rule out a lan party at some point, necessarily. Usually there is an intro to php type talk for 20-30 mins and then a 1hr or so presentation on some sort of tech around php |
| 04:22.45 | herlo | anyway, I'm out, busy week ahead |
| 04:23.38 | cobbman | thanks |
| 04:23.53 | cobbman | have a good week |
| 04:31.23 | cobbman | oh sorry, what time? I couldn't find it on the website |
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| 15:39.51 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 15:39.52 | ibot | whacks PoeticIntensity upside the head |
| 15:49.34 | mindjuju | i hate Hate HATE when some goofus makes a 10G partition for the OS and then proceeds to install every dang app on that same partition leaving less than 1G for the norm |
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| 15:50.41 | PoeticIntensity | why thank you, SunSparc Happy Monday to you too. |
| 15:51.24 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: hehe, you are most welcome |
| 15:51.45 | SunSparc | mindjuju: yeah, that is just plain dumb |
| 15:52.38 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 15:56.10 | mindjuju | man, woke up this morning went to the car and felt like dr. zhivago |
| 15:56.59 | jsmith-meeting | mindjuju: :-p |
| 15:57.22 | mindjuju | i could stomach it in Va much better than here |
| 15:57.35 | mindjuju | man, i'm getting dogged about my dr. zhivago post on FB though! |
| 15:57.37 | josephscott | ~lart winter |
| 15:57.37 | ibot | shoots winter in the head |
| 15:58.11 | DexterTheDragon | ~welcome winter |
| 15:58.11 | ibot | Howdy, winter! |
| 15:58.35 | josephscott | ~jedi winter |
| 15:58.35 | ibot | winter: <action> chops off winter's head with her lightsaber |
| 15:58.57 | DexterTheDragon | ~winter |
| 15:58.57 | ibot | winter is probably the coldest season of the year!, or the hottest season of the year for the other hemisphere which is in summer at the same time |
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| 16:02.14 | mindjuju | josephscott, i'm going to see about getting a 4 wheeler with a snow shoveler thing on front, just so i don't have to be outside |
| 16:02.19 | mindjuju | that long, that is |
| 16:31.15 | carmony_ | lol |
| 16:31.16 | carmony_ | wow |
| 16:31.29 | mindjuju | did it snow up where you are carmony? |
| 16:31.33 | carmony_ | nested queries-- |
| 16:31.36 | carmony_ | nope |
| 16:31.43 | carmony_ | though it is cold |
| 16:32.37 | mindjuju | no doubt, frozen tundra cold |
| 16:35.23 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: I still haven't turned the heater on in my house |
| 16:36.16 | mindjuju | don't you have a fish that lives in your house? |
| 16:36.23 | mindjuju | ~welcome back fungus! |
| 16:36.23 | ibot | Welcome to the party, back fungus!! |
| 16:36.39 | fungus | lol, thx |
| 16:37.07 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: no they live in an aquarium |
| 16:37.22 | mindjuju | :), yeah, that's what i mean |
| 16:37.31 | mindjuju | poor fish, water prolly getting cold |
| 16:37.54 | DexterTheDragon | its temperature controlled |
| 16:38.04 | mindjuju | ah |
| 16:38.08 | mindjuju | do you like the cold? |
| 16:38.49 | fungus | I've been using my electric blanket for the past 2 weeks already. |
| 16:39.43 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: I prefer not being hot |
| 16:39.44 | josephscott | best hacking music ever |
| 16:40.29 | mindjuju | i'm the opposite, i'd rather being in 100+ temp with humidity than temp below 50 |
| 16:40.36 | josephscott | probably because I listened to lots of insoc during high school and bbs hacking |
| 16:40.43 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:41.46 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Amen! |
| 16:42.00 | mindjuju | ^5 SunSparc |
| 16:42.26 | SunSparc | mindjuju: ^5 |
| 16:42.53 | mindjuju | i can't wait until all the seasonal temps leave and I can go back to wearing flip flops |
| 16:43.18 | SunSparc | Appearances? |
| 16:43.26 | mindjuju | adherence to safety policy |
| 16:43.32 | SunSparc | Ah |
| 16:43.43 | mindjuju | there were some wild people in the warehouse this year |
| 16:44.04 | mindjuju | one was running with a ladder on wheels thing and nearly took out a gas heater we have in the warehouse |
| 16:44.18 | mindjuju | and some of the peoploe driving pallet jacks... nutty |
| 16:44.19 | SunSparc | Nice |
| 16:44.39 | SunSparc | That would be me if I was in the warehouse. |
| 16:44.50 | mindjuju | but when it all calms down here in a week or so, i can go back to flips |
| 16:44.50 | SunSparc | Those things are fun |
| 16:44.58 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:45.01 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:46.02 | josephscott | mindjuju: the insoc car - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoIk3m4IwcM |
| 16:47.37 | mindjuju | @josephscott, awesome and the remix of thinking in the back, way cool. i used to spend weeks looking for hard to find remixes |
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| 16:49.24 | mindjuju | anybody know any FOSS patch management software ? |
| 16:49.39 | SunSparc | Sweet car. Reminiscent of something from Mad Max. |
| 16:50.47 | SunSparc | Geek movie night? |
| 16:51.09 | mindjuju | we outta! |
| 16:51.18 | SunSparc | I have never seen all of them. In fact, I am not sure if I have seen any of them all the way through. |
| 16:51.43 | mindjuju | i loved road warrior, but never saw the tina turner beyond thunderdome |
| 16:51.57 | mindjuju | i was to afraid it would ruin road warrior |
| 16:52.31 | mindjuju | @josephscott - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaREqkHdwMs&feature=related |
| 16:52.34 | josephscott | mindjuju: any update on tron? |
| 16:52.48 | mindjuju | i haven't heard back from those yahoos, i'll call them real quick |
| 16:53.01 | josephscott | mindjuju: nice! |
| 16:53.08 | SunSparc | "The fourth film in the series, tentatively titled http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Max_4:_Fury_Road#Sequel, is in production." |
| 16:53.19 | mindjuju | scary |
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| 17:02.42 | mindjuju | @josephscott, have you seen this? http://www.amazon.com/Information-Society-Useless-Resist-Years/dp/B0032K3P4S/ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-video&ie=UTF8&qid=1288026102&sr=1-2 |
| 17:03.00 | mindjuju | $9, that's pretty cheap, i might have to buy this |
| 17:03.22 | josephscott | haha, no, haven't seen that |
| 17:03.38 | josephscott | I ripped my old insoc CDs years ago, usually just listen to those |
| 17:06.02 | carmony_ | Yeah, I never really listened to insoc :P |
| 17:06.24 | mindjuju | carmony missing out |
| 17:06.33 | mindjuju | tha'ts prolly why your so weird |
| 17:06.37 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:07.18 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:15.48 | tierra | mindjuju: re, patch management... you mean besides issue trackers, the GNU patch util, and the built-in features of your SCM/VCS of choice? |
| 17:16.06 | tierra | I think they have that pretty well covered... maybe I'm wrong though |
| 17:16.37 | mindjuju | was thinking more of something like i think what ubuntu landscape does |
| 17:16.45 | mindjuju | but mixed platform |
| 17:16.50 | mindjuju | linux / winders |
| 17:16.59 | herlo | what is ubuntu landscape? |
| 17:17.31 | tierra | Launchpad basically |
| 17:17.40 | mindjuju | if i understood it correctly, its like a nagios / patch manager all rolled up into one |
| 17:17.41 | mindjuju | http://www.canonical.com/enterprise-services/ubuntu-advantage/landscape |
| 17:17.42 | tierra | and Bazaar I'm guessing |
| 17:18.51 | fungus | Landscape is a paid service by Canonical that does system monitoring, management, and reporting. |
| 17:19.26 | tierra | so, you want something to give you overall detailed reports of what patches you have running around (either applied, or not) in your issue tracker? |
| 17:19.50 | tierra | I do believe that's something provided by the issue tracker itself |
| 17:20.29 | fungus | mindjuju, there are several programs that do parts of what landscape does, but nothing comes to mind that is integrated like that. |
| 17:21.40 | fungus | Perhaps something like puppet, monit, and some custom glue could work. |
| 17:45.57 | PoeticIntensity | I'm having an odd subversion problem.... |
| 17:46.38 | PoeticIntensity | I'm getting an SSL error when I try to connect to assembla.com - does anyone know of any public repositories I could try to connect to, to see if it's specific to assembla, or the way my SSL is configured... ?? |
| 17:47.00 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: What is the SSL error you get? |
| 17:47.12 | PoeticIntensity | svn: OPTIONS of 'https://subversion.assembla.com/svn/blendtec/trunk/residential': SSL handshake failed: Secure connection truncated (https://subversion.assembla.com) |
| 17:47.28 | PoeticIntensity | googling that yields very unhelpful results. |
| 17:47.43 | SunSparc | Nice, never seen that one before... |
| 17:48.03 | PoeticIntensity | yeah. I'm learning to want nothing but death to come upon svn. |
| 17:48.11 | SunSparc | lol |
| 17:48.12 | PoeticIntensity | and that's a bad thing - because it's a great tool. |
| 17:48.19 | PoeticIntensity | except when it doesn't work. |
| 17:48.21 | PoeticIntensity | at all. |
| 17:48.25 | PoeticIntensity | argh. |
| 17:48.41 | SunSparc | Same sentiments for anything that does not work. |
| 17:48.47 | DexterTheDragon | PoeticIntensity: this is what svn told me http://pastebin.ca/1972999 |
| 17:48.49 | PoeticIntensity | There's got to be a public repository I can try to connect to with ssl... |
| 17:49.25 | SunSparc | Pick any open source project and there may be one. |
| 17:49.35 | PoeticIntensity | well, DexterTheDragon - that'd be great if I was getting the same error... hehe... My co-worker (on windows) uses it successfully on a daily basis. |
| 17:49.46 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: You could just browse http://code.google.com/ |
| 17:49.56 | PoeticIntensity | right on... thanks, SunSparc |
| 17:49.58 | PoeticIntensity | here goes nothing. |
| 17:52.07 | DexterTheDragon | PoeticIntensity: svn co https://utos-conman.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/ utos-conman-read-only |
| 17:53.33 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, Kevin. :) |
| 17:53.56 | PoeticIntensity | hmm..... |
| 17:53.57 | PoeticIntensity | same error. |
| 17:54.03 | PoeticIntensity | crapity-crapsticks. |
| 17:54.11 | DexterTheDragon | your openssl is borked |
| 17:54.15 | PoeticIntensity | somethin's funky with my box... |
| 17:54.18 | PoeticIntensity | yeah. |
| 17:54.26 | DexterTheDragon | how'd you install svn? |
| 17:54.29 | PoeticIntensity | would it matter that SSL on Firefox works perfectly? |
| 17:54.39 | PoeticIntensity | emerge subversion :) |
| 17:54.43 | PoeticIntensity | and it has neon... |
| 17:54.48 | DexterTheDragon | pastebin svn --version |
| 17:54.52 | PoeticIntensity | and neon has ssl via gnutls |
| 17:57.15 | PoeticIntensity | http://pastebin.com/yyGQfyV7 |
| 17:58.31 | PoeticIntensity | anything weird about that, DexterTheDragon ? |
| 17:58.58 | DexterTheDragon | no. do you know what version of neon is installed? |
| 17:59.37 | PoeticIntensity | net-libs/neon-0.29.3 |
| 18:00.11 | PoeticIntensity | looks like .4 is available in the unstable trunk. |
| 18:01.34 | DexterTheDragon | PoeticIntensity: maybe http://bugs.gentoo.org/295617 |
| 18:03.28 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, dude.... |
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| 18:03.52 | PoeticIntensity | I'll see if I can get the same resolution.... |
| 18:05.38 | PoeticIntensity | problems like this suck, when my boss walks in, asks what the problem is, and after my explanation, he says, "Well... Windows doesn't seem to have any problems..." |
| 18:06.10 | mgeary | psh |
| 18:06.22 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... I wish he accepted that as a rebuttal. :) |
| 18:06.41 | PoeticIntensity | Me: "psh".... Boss: "man.. You're right.. Windows sucks hardcore." |
| 18:07.20 | DexterTheDragon | I blame subversion |
| 18:09.52 | josephscott | how did you end up with an unstable linux box being used for production? |
| 18:14.48 | DexterTheDragon | josephscott: are you insinuating that gentoo is unstable? |
| 18:15.23 | josephscott | his particular server is unstable, I didn't mention distro |
| 18:25.53 | PoeticIntensity | huh? |
| 18:26.19 | PoeticIntensity | My box isn't serving anything except http. I'm using subversion's client. |
| 18:26.56 | PoeticIntensity | josephscott, the server is fine. It's the client I'm having troubles with. |
| 18:26.58 | fungus | PoeticIntensity, instead of rebutting with "psh", just put together a long list of problems, and copy/paste it to him every time he says that. |
| 18:27.27 | PoeticIntensity | hehe... Yeah. |
| 18:28.23 | josephscott | ah, I mis-understood the question then |
| 18:29.29 | josephscott | personal preferences aside, if the Windows client just works and some other client doesn't after hours of effort, then he's right, Windows doesn't seem to have a problem with that |
| 18:29.52 | josephscott | his assumption is that this therefore leads to unrelated decisions should also be based on that |
| 18:30.35 | josephscott | I could say the same thing in regards to Ubuntu, or any other client that currently "works" |
| 18:39.14 | PoeticIntensity | yup. |
| 18:59.39 | mindjuju | @josephscott, this InfoSoc vid is A-100%-FREAKIN'-MAZING |
| 18:59.46 | mindjuju | well worth $10 |
| 18:59.59 | mindjuju | now i just need to get it to play via XBMC |
| 19:03.07 | josephscott | cool |
| 19:04.56 | PoeticIntensity | Okay... I found the problem... |
| 19:05.01 | PoeticIntensity | and DexterTheDragon was right. |
| 19:05.19 | PoeticIntensity | the subversion client configured to use neon will sporadically fail completely with SSL. |
| 19:05.36 | PoeticIntensity | when configured with "serf" instead of neon, SSL is working as it should. |
| 19:06.04 | PoeticIntensity | I hate those pesky clandestine bugs. |
| 19:06.19 | mindjuju | DtD is on a roll with the hard questions |
| 19:06.26 | mindjuju | ~DextertheDragon++ |
| 19:13.56 | josephscott | ~rlart |
| 19:13.57 | ibot | nabs the moon and broadsides ninnypants1 with the sea of tranquility |
| 19:20.08 | josephscott | mysql subquery - http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2010/10/25/mysql-limitations-part-3-subqueries/ |
| 19:20.17 | josephscott | I'd really like to see that improved |
| 19:26.11 | jsmith | Most subqueries can be optimized by using joins instead :-p |
| 19:28.56 | josephscott | mysql should also have a decent query planner, can't always have what we want ;-) |
| 19:29.37 | jsmith | True |
| 19:37.35 | DexterTheDragon | ~karma DexterTheDragon |
| 19:37.35 | ibot | dexterthedragon has karma of 19 |
| 19:37.49 | DexterTheDragon | schweet |
| 19:38.09 | SunSparc | nice |
| 19:38.13 | SunSparc | ~karma |
| 19:38.13 | ibot | sunsparc has karma of 17 |
| 19:38.17 | SunSparc | Woot! |
| 19:38.35 | SunSparc | Maybe someday I will catch up to mgeary... |
| 19:38.39 | SunSparc | ~karma mgeary |
| 19:38.39 | ibot | mgeary has karma of 35 |
| 19:38.55 | mgeary | halfway there, grasshopper |
| 19:39.08 | SunSparc | I could help that if I did some mgeary-- |
| 19:39.10 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:39.25 | mgeary | ah, but this is karma we're talking about |
| 19:39.29 | SunSparc | Exactly |
| 19:39.32 | SunSparc | Defeats the purpose. |
| 19:39.57 | SunSparc | Stepping out for some essen... |
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| 20:29.21 | mindjuju | @josephscott, info coming soon on Tron2 |
| 20:29.30 | mindjuju | i just heard back from Megaplex 17 and we're talking |
| 20:29.33 | mindjuju | ...finally... |
| 20:44.33 | josephscott | mindjuju: which one is megaplex 17? |
| 20:44.45 | mindjuju | justin common |
| 20:44.59 | mindjuju | srry on pone wiuth work |
| 20:45.20 | josephscott | jordan commons on state st? |
| 20:45.35 | mindjuju | in sandy |
| 20:45.47 | josephscott | woot, I live close and I like that theater |
| 20:54.23 | thebigdog | just awesome http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12960241 (look close and you might see me!) |
| 20:55.40 | mindjuju | where was you? |
| 20:56.21 | thebigdog | oh man...standing on the other side of the street...they did not show all the footage |
| 20:57.33 | mindjuju | was going to say, i didn't know you put on a wig a taking female hormones and went newscaster on us |
| 20:57.48 | mgeary | i love this: "Bomb squads are attempting to detonate a suspicious package..." "... Police do not believe anything suspicious is in the suitcase" |
| 20:58.02 | mindjuju | yup, that was funny |
| 20:58.12 | mgeary | more pathetic, really |
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| 21:01.56 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 21:02.08 | thebigdog | i thought it was someones lunch hehe |
| 21:02.25 | mindjuju | so you saw the briefca...WOAH |
| 21:02.34 | mgeary | security theater will be the doom of us all |
| 21:02.34 | mindjuju | are you doing so well that you bring your lunch in a briefcase? |
| 21:02.48 | mindjuju | i can't even FATHOM that |
| 21:03.01 | mindjuju | mr gucci shoes driving a BMW series 5 |
| 21:03.38 | SunSparc | That would be a shame if the suspicious package was just a pastrami sandwich. |
| 21:04.02 | mindjuju | well, really it wouldn't sunsparc. everybody likes their pastrami toasted |
| 21:04.11 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Good point |
| 21:05.02 | thebigdog | haha not mine those title company people are making bank....$800 to photocopy your documents |
| 21:05.25 | SunSparc | Yeah, I am in the wrong business, apparently. |
| 21:05.25 | mindjuju | yeah, true that |
| 21:07.50 | mindjuju | DtD = "awesome"; // his posted FB pic - http://i.imgur.com/BBAY2.jpg |
| 21:08.09 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:08.19 | herlo | dude, chuck norris can do a wheelie on a unicycle! |
| 21:08.43 | herlo | ew! no ketchup smoothies for me!! |
| 21:08.44 | mindjuju | wow, i'll have to add that to the chuck facts |
| 21:08.56 | herlo | hehe |
| 21:09.06 | herlo | mindjuju: glad you like that one |
| 21:09.32 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:10.39 | herlo | heard here at skdy today |
| 21:12.05 | mindjuju | ah dag! |
| 21:12.26 | SunSparc | yeah, figures |
| 21:13.02 | herlo | jerk ^^ |
| 21:13.07 | SunSparc | meanie head |
| 21:13.11 | herlo | :-P |
| 21:13.39 | SunSparc | ~shun DexterTheDragon |
| 21:13.39 | ibot | You are dead to me, DexterTheDragon. |
| 21:13.56 | SunSparc | whoa, that's all? |
| 21:14.01 | josephscott | ~lart facebook |
| 21:14.01 | ibot | drops a truckload of VAXen on facebook |
| 21:14.03 | mindjuju | $25 for the exclusive VIP group |
| 21:29.56 | mgeary | ~mbp SunSparc |
| 21:29.56 | ibot | ACTION puts another nickel in SunSparc's "Get a MacBook Pro" jar |
| 21:30.43 | SunSparc | Sweet! Wait, I already have a MBP. But I am always looking for the latest and greatest. |
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| 21:44.46 | carmony_ | josephscott: its been interesting playing with redis |
| 21:45.00 | josephscott | yeah? what is the latest? |
| 21:45.13 | carmony_ | so size on disk isn't too bad |
| 21:45.28 | carmony_ | because of pointers, and other things, data in ram is a lot larger |
| 21:45.38 | carmony_ | so when dumping its a lot smaller |
| 21:45.46 | carmony_ | so 3,000 scores per use |
| 21:45.48 | carmony_ | user |
| 21:46.02 | carmony_ | is about 27k per user |
| 21:46.18 | josephscott | each user is a hash? |
| 21:46.29 | carmony_ | yup |
| 21:46.34 | josephscott | small keys? |
| 21:46.39 | carmony_ | yeah |
| 21:46.46 | carmony_ | well |
| 21:46.56 | carmony_ | keys for the hashtable, or keys for redis? |
| 21:46.56 | josephscott | hmmm, still seems like 27k is a fair bit per user |
| 21:47.14 | josephscott | both |
| 21:47.16 | carmony_ | all my estimates are high |
| 21:47.18 | carmony_ | so when testing |
| 21:47.26 | carmony_ | I did all user ID's of 1,000,000+ |
| 21:47.36 | josephscott | hmmm, I guess that is about 9 bytes per score |
| 21:47.41 | josephscott | so not too bad I guess |
| 21:47.55 | josephscott | what type/value is a score? |
| 21:48.04 | carmony_ | float |
| 21:48.07 | carmony_ | 7.6 |
| 21:48.36 | josephscott | out of curiosity, did you try it as a string? |
| 21:48.41 | carmony_ | hrm, I could |
| 21:49.24 | josephscott | you aren't doing any math operations in redis on them, so wouldn't hurt anything |
| 21:49.31 | carmony_ | yeah |
| 22:13.54 | DexterTheDragon | this is what happens when you don't blow up suspicious packages http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e04EYw5geuI |
| 22:19.11 | mgeary | see, now that's one they *shoulda* blown up |
| 22:19.22 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:20.04 | SunSparc | They were robot suicide bomber kitties. |
| 22:20.47 | josephscott | genetically engineered terror kitties? |
| 22:20.57 | josephscott | ~rlart terror kitties |
| 22:21.05 | josephscott | ~lart terror kitties |
| 22:21.05 | ibot | nabs the moon and broadsides terror kitties with the sea of tranquility |
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