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02:16.34beandog_o hai
02:16.45beandog_mindjuju: pingeh
02:19.06beandog_I better go make dinner.
02:19.09beandog_My maid didn't show up again.
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13:13.31macnewbold*yawn*
13:13.53macnewbold...must...finish...slides...
13:23.27herlomacnewbold: get to it!!
13:23.28herlo:")
13:23.37macnewboldhehe
13:23.45macnewboldcool, see you there in a bit herlo
13:23.53macnewboldis there anything scheduled before 10am todaY?
13:24.33macnewboldi crashed last night at 8, then of course couldn't sleep since 4, which gave me several good hours of slide prep time without interruptions
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14:43.34mindjujuhai beandog
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15:10.25beandogmonin
15:12.09beandogman if it wasnt for Halloween candy, I wouldnt have any breakfast
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15:38.32mindjuju@beandog, what kind of halloween candy
15:38.40beandogreeses cups
15:38.45mindjujuah yum
15:38.49beandogI had some Heath bars too, but those went fsat
15:38.50beandogfast
15:40.21SunSparc~friday
15:40.21ibot! ! ! F R I D A Y ! ! !
15:43.52romanovic-afkrah!
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16:10.53beandogman
16:11.06beandogI ran into a problem with Prototype that I remember hitting before, but I dont remember how I fixed it.
16:11.07beandog:T
16:11.45beandoghttp://pastebin.com/wiAmcsgH
16:12.01beandogThe scope won't let me fetch the variable outside of the function
16:12.07beandogSo, line #14 works, line #18 doesn't.
16:12.29beandoganyone see anything I might be doing wrong there?
16:15.03SunSparcbeandog: Are you sure it is the variable that you are not getting?  Do an alert there with just the variable without the debug and insert stuff.
16:15.18beandogOk
16:15.19beandogsec
16:16.09beandogits saying undefined
16:16.46beandogwell, hold on.
16:17.07SunSparcHmmm... I wonder if js has a $this->id protocol that needs to be followed...
16:17.51beandogNow this is ... buggy
16:17.58beandogif I run alert on it, *then* it will pass it.
16:18.01SunSparcThough I would think that since you defined the variable outside the function that your populating it inside the function would just update it....
16:18.14SunSparcWhat?
16:18.22SunSparcThat does not make sense.
16:18.25beandogSunSparc, exactly.  That was my original assumption.
16:18.32beandogDefined before the function, should be set in that scope.
16:18.58beandogSunSparc, yah .. looks like I have random prototype bugs or something .. let me see if I can simplify the code.
16:25.39beandogOkay, I remember part of the problem  now ...
16:25.46beandogI'm doing onSuccess
16:25.56beandogI need to use onComplete
16:26.03beandogBut still, it doesnt affect the scope outside.
16:26.10beandogergh.
16:26.21herlobeandog: where are you?
16:26.31beandogherlo, working
16:26.36beandogherlo, yah? whens that
16:26.36herloand SunSparc too
16:26.54herlobeandog: http://blog.utos.org/2010/10/04/utosc-2010-geek-dinner-dinner-did-someone-say-dinner/
16:27.01herlopls start reading utos.org :)
16:27.14beandogSandy
16:27.16beandogthats close
16:27.30herloyup
16:27.33herlogood foods too
16:28.20beandogoh my gosh .. this is crazy
16:28.22beandoghow did I do this last time
16:28.40beandogIf I recall correctly, I think I set the variable somewhere else, and then read it back.
16:28.48beandogLike, I updated the innerhtml of a hidden element
16:29.00beandogThat seems so stupid, though.
16:35.11SunSparcherlo: someone brought down wifi?
16:44.36herloSunSparc: it's a common occurance
16:44.41herlobut it's *much* better this year
16:44.53SunSparcAnnoying.  :)
16:48.13beandogIs it annoying, or more annoying this year?
16:48.17beandogheh
16:49.04SunSparc:)
16:49.44beandogman I dont know what to do with this.
16:50.35SunSparcSimplified still did not reveal anything?
16:56.14beandogwow, I got it.
16:56.17herlobeandog: give up and come to UTOSC
16:56.28herlooh, darn, too slow
16:56.35jsmithbeandog: Yeah, since you wouldn't come to dinner w/ us last night
16:56.49beandogjsmith, man I totally missed out on that
16:56.50beandog:C
16:57.02beandogI wasnt paying attention to my phone, and got like six texts
16:57.11beandogI totally would have gone
16:57.17jsmithbeandog: Yeah, we did a flash-mob texting session :-p
16:58.03beandogSunSparc, http://pastebin.com/2dW5CWep
16:58.59beandogOh wait
16:59.09beandogJust turning off asynchronous works.  I guess I don't need bind.
16:59.10beandogGrawr.
16:59.13beandogjsmith, yah I feel bad.
16:59.14beandog:C
16:59.22SunSparcbeandog: Nice!
16:59.26beandogI dont even remember what I was doing last night ...
16:59.27jsmithbeandog: I'm just messing with you... just show up to UTOSC
17:00.28SunSparcbeandog: So you made the variable specific to that object and refer to it consistently like that and it works now?
17:00.43beandogSunSparc, actually, I dropped .. well, sec
17:02.40beandogSunSparc, yah, just making it synchronous works
17:02.50beandogSo, my assumptions about the scope were correct
17:02.59beandogbut the function was finishing before the ajax request was.
17:03.17SunSparcRight on.  Good job!
17:04.47beandogYah ... dang it. .. hmm
17:04.54beandogThey don't recommend doing it that way, but its the only option.
17:05.00beandogwhich, again, doesn't make much sense ...
17:05.23SunSparcWell, at least it is working now.
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17:07.49beandogIm still not following what bind does.
17:08.03beandogjsmith, yah I dont think Im gonna make it ... can probably do the dinner tho
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17:17.24beandogwow, its 11?  I thought it was 10
17:40.08DexterTheDragon~lart beandog
17:40.08iboteats beandog and falls over dead
17:41.28beandogDexterTheDragon, :C
17:41.35beandogDexterTheDragon, I didnt see your txt til this morning
17:41.53DexterTheDragonyeah you did
17:42.16DexterTheDragonmissed the party of the century
17:42.32beandog:C
17:42.33DexterTheDragonbeandog: come to dinner tonight tho
17:42.37mindjujuoh man, that was a fun time
17:44.47mindjuju@DtD, i have conquered shai halud
17:45.44jsmithmindjuju: Beat it good!
17:45.54mindjuju:)
17:46.16DexterTheDragondidn't require an orbital strike?
17:46.27mindjujui was sorely tempted
17:46.33mindjujuyou know, it's the only way to be sure
17:47.09mindjujuDtD is so good, i'm going to have to think of a movie quote that's twice as obscure and see if you catch it
17:55.22eggyknapmindjuju: are you at UTOSC somewhere? Haven't seen you around...
17:58.38mindjujunot until 5p tonight
17:58.40mindjujuthen all day tomorrow
17:58.49mindjujuwhen is your preso?
18:10.12wpsI have an MySQL query with a sub select
18:10.21wps(SELECT …… ) as this
18:10.37wpswhen I try to use "this" in the WHERE, I am getting an error that says unknown column
18:11.09wpsthat column is in the rows returned though
18:11.14wpsany idea why I can
18:11.23wpsany idea why I can't use it in the WHERE?
18:13.14mindjujuwps, is "this" the result of some kind of calculation
18:13.24mindjujuor is it just a rename of a sql table field?
18:13.32mindjujuif it is the result of a calculation, then http://www.w3schools.com/SQL/sql_having.asp
18:14.08wpsit's a calculation
18:14.16wps(SELECT COUNT() … ) as
18:14.58mindjujuuse having then
18:15.07wpsinteresting
18:15.07wpsthanks
18:15.44wpsso that'd be after GROUP BY and BEFORE ORDER BY ?
18:16.04mindjujueggyknap and others can speak better to it than i, but my understanding is that if the field is a computation that doesn't exist at runtime of query, then having is the one to use, having was created to handle this
18:16.05mindjujuyup
18:16.11mindjujuafter group, before order
18:26.52romanovicanyone know a good way to fix a stuck pixel?
18:27.30wpsI've heard that some have had luck with massaging them but otherwise you're out of luck
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18:28.10romanovici got stuck pixels every once in a while on a previous lcd, and they always went away eventually
18:28.21romanovicusually after having been powered off for a while
18:29.01romanovicmaybe it was just a crappy lcd, but i'm hoping i can get rid of this one too
18:41.22beandogmindjuju, what was wrong with your server
18:41.41mgeary~literal chuckfact
18:41.41ibot"chuckfact" is "<REPLY> (Chuck Norris uses Tabasco Sauce for eye drops|Chuck Norris hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush|There is no chin under Chuck Norris Beard. There is only another fist|When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris)"
18:44.25mgearyokay folks, i need help on birthday ideas for my wife's 35th
18:44.45beandogmgeary, corn maze
18:44.51mgearyuh, no
18:44.57mindjujuipod
18:45.09mindjujuthat's what i got for mine
18:45.17mindjujuipod + itunes spendy money
18:45.26mgearynot bad
18:45.28mgearykeep 'em coming
18:45.30beandoga new htpc
18:45.38mgeary~wiki htpc
18:45.47mgearyah
18:45.55beandoga mame cabinet
18:46.06mgearywell, i actually just ordered an AppleTV, but i can't make that her present
18:46.15mindjujuwhat about season pass to opera, ballet or something like that?
18:46.21beandogtrip to sea world
18:46.23mgearynow you're talking, mindjuju
18:46.37mindjujufamily portrait
18:46.48beandog~google awkward family photos
18:46.52mgearyheh
18:46.58mindjujuwith tons of prints she can send out
18:47.19mindjujudate night coupons from you
18:47.28mindjujudepends on budget, really
18:47.28beandogThis is what Id do
18:47.34beandogOrder a new domain name
18:47.35beandoglike
18:47.40beandogmywifeisawesomeandshesnotyours.com
18:47.46beandogand put a nice little photo album up there
18:47.50beandogthen make it her homepage on her computer
18:47.53macnewboldnice
18:47.55mindjuju:)
18:48.07mgeary~cheesy beandog
18:48.10mgeary;)
18:48.10macnewboldbeandog, you know an awful lot about this... sound like a pro
18:48.12beandogthen let her find it when she goes to open her computer
18:48.39mgearyokay, as a bonus surprise, that's actually a pretty good idea
18:50.17macnewboldgo beandog
18:50.41beandoghonestly, the best gifts are ALWAYS ones you make yourself, and that they can keep
18:50.52macnewboldwell, yes, and no
18:51.02macnewboldthere are some things she wants that can't be made by hand
18:51.20macnewbolda droid incredible or an ipod touch come to mind
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18:54.41mgearyi'm liking the idea of Ballet West season tickets...
18:54.48beandoghttp://awkwardfamilyphotos.com/2010/08/21/future-astrophysicist-cat-lover/
18:54.52beandogI *totally* want that tshirt.
18:58.03mgearyi think you'd look silly with kitties on your belly
19:01.40beandogsez  you
19:03.53mgearysez me
19:04.08mindjujuherlo was making quiet the fashion statement yesterday with a vintage TMNT 80's cartoon shirt
19:04.14mindjujuquiet the statement
19:05.00beandogeh?
19:06.55mindjujudid you see the end of line shirt on thinkgeek?
19:06.57mindjujuway cool
19:10.25mindjujui hear corn mazes are corny
19:10.29mindjujuthat's what i heard
19:12.06beandoghttp://www.blackislandfarms.com/maize.php
19:12.07beandogoh wow.
19:13.00romanovicmgeary: there's Hale centre theatre, if you're considering theatre
19:13.12romanovicCan't say i've been there many times
19:13.24romanovicbut the things I have been there for, my woman would *love*
19:15.05mindjujuthere is a syracuse in utah?  who knew?
19:15.28romanovicis there a corn maze in syracuse?
19:15.47mindjujuthere is
19:15.47mindjujuthe oen beandog posted above
19:15.52romanovicoh
19:16.07romanovicmaybe when you get to the center, there is a portkey that transports you to the syracuse in new york
19:16.25mindjuju:)
19:17.21romanovicwow
19:17.28romanovictwilight themed corn maze
19:37.49unumwe just went to pirate of penance at hale
19:37.53unummy wife loved it
19:38.05romanoviccool
19:38.23romanovicmy gf wanted to go to that, but neither of us could be in town
19:38.54unumwe went the second to last date
19:39.00unumand took my mom for her birthday
19:40.46romanovichow were the props?
19:41.17mindjujuthe hale, is that the one with the moving floor?
19:41.26romanovicyeah
19:41.29mindjujui think they're doing bram stokers dracula for halloween
19:41.30romanovici dunno how they do it
19:41.37romanovicbut they make props appear out of nowhere somehow
19:41.39mindjujuthat might be fun for a nice date / dinner
20:00.53unumthe props?
20:00.56unumthey were good
20:00.58unumI think
20:01.30unumit's impressive to watch them dance around on the rotating, elevating floor, with a hole in the middle
20:01.57unums/elevating/elevating, uneven
20:01.59mindjujui saw a Christmas Carol there, it was good
20:07.31beandogmoving floor?
20:07.35beandogwhut?
20:08.16mindjujufloor moves around
20:08.22mindjujuand things pop out from underneath
20:08.28mindjujues v cool
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20:48.45beandogman I still dont get this stuff
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20:52.13beandogninnypants, o hai
20:53.15beandogDoes CakePHP have a rest api you can use with javascript?
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21:01.57beandogSunSparc, ping-ah
21:02.16SunSparcbeandog: pong-ah
21:02.25beandogpm?
21:02.36SunSparc:)
21:06.33mindjujuis there some rule against rebooting a centos server?
21:06.46beandogmindjuju, you lose your uptime badge
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21:08.03wpsUPHPU CentOS server: 410 days
21:08.08SunSparcyeah, kills uptime
21:08.17wpsand geek cred
21:08.26influxhah
21:08.33SunSparcMajor loss of karma
21:08.41beandogYour children will shun you.
21:08.45beandogYour food will taste bitter.
21:08.47SunSparclol
21:08.49beandogWomen will forget your name.
21:08.54beandogYour dough won't rise.
21:08.59SunSparcrofl
21:09.00beandogYour checks will bounce.
21:09.13wpsyum won't update
21:09.34SunSparcrlarts will always pick you
21:09.45beandogYes
21:09.46beandog:)
21:13.01josephscott~rlart
21:13.01ibotrm -rf's Utah_Dave
21:13.58SunSparcheh, now we need to reinstall the Utah_Dave os
21:16.06beandog~brick Utah_Dave
21:16.06ibotACTION installs a bad bootloader on Utah_Dave and turns Utah_Dave into a brick
21:20.21macnewboldhehe
21:20.22mgeary~rlart
21:20.22ibotdrops a humongous exploding nuke on TodPunk
21:20.25macnewboldi love this conversation
21:20.43mgeary~TodPunk
21:20.49SunSparcLooks like TodPunk is unknown to ibot.
21:20.51macnewboldi finally ended up shutting down my box that had been up for like 4 years...
21:21.00macnewboldi was sad to lose that uptime
21:21.05macnewboldbut it was fun while it lasted
21:21.54josephscott~rlart
21:21.54ibotblasts optikal to oblivion with a kamehameha wave
21:22.10josephscottibot: you pick on optikal too much
21:22.21mindjujuany java users in the house?
21:23.01optikalYeah no kidding.  What'd I ever do to you, ibot?
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21:25.22SunSparc~reboot ibot
21:25.22ibotACTION pushes ibot's reset button
21:26.29josephscott~kick ibot when he is down
21:26.29ibotACTION kicks ibot when he is down
21:27.46macnewboldmindjuju: if they're smart, they won't admit to using java, at least not in here
21:27.59beandogdeath to java
21:28.10mindjujuugh, well, i'm going to say something that is going to offend darn near everybody here
21:28.27orsonjI need to find that live kernel patching thing again
21:28.42mindjujubut i'm looking at the connections to an ms sql database made by JDBC and several these connections aren't closing
21:28.51mindjujulike it takes some 10+ minutes to close
21:29.04mindjujuthat, to my mind, doesn't seem right if the actual query are much smaller
21:29.15mindjujubut the dev seems to think its operatoring within normal bounds
21:29.21DexterTheDragonorsonj: ksplice
21:29.23beandogmindjuju, why do you need to close the connections?
21:30.02mindjujuif you open a connection, send a request and are happy, you should close the connection
21:30.12mindjujuthat's what I learned, is not the case?
21:30.13beandognot necessarily
21:30.32DexterTheDragonmindjuju: connection pool
21:31.11josephscottyep, could be persistent connections
21:31.30beandogor it could be the rainbow connection
21:31.41beandogsomeday, we'll find it.
21:31.49beandogthe lovers, the dreamers, and you
21:31.57SunSparclol
21:33.52beandoghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSFLZ-MzIhM
21:35.46josephscottit's not easy being green
21:36.07beandogI imagine it might have something to do with living in alligator infested swamps
21:38.37josephscottprobably just a fisherman out for a pleasure cruise through eel infested waters
21:40.29macnewboldjosephscott++
21:40.48SunSparcHe's no concern of ours.  Sail on.
21:40.50macnewboldmindjuju: are the open connections causing grief?
21:41.39beandogOh my gosh
21:41.50beandogI just spent like ... too much time ... trying to figure out why there's no response
21:42.00beandogI was sending the HTTP status code 204
21:42.02beandogfailsies!
21:45.16macnewboldoooh - my uptime on that box was 1620 days before it died.
21:46.42beandoghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ifma_3ZB24&feature=related
21:46.48beandoghow can something so stupid be so mesmerizing?
21:48.58mindjuju@macnewbold, well, the apps that are creating the connections have brought the server down before
21:49.06mindjujubut we've never tracked down the exact cause
21:49.23mindjujui've setup tools to aggressively monitor the server, that's why i ask
21:49.41macnewboldopen connections that aren't in use don't usually cause a problem other than perhaps preventing new connections once you hit the limit
21:51.59beandoghttp://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/641ff0b2-b2de-443c-9f7d-a58d5a600254.jpg
21:54.11beandoghttp://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/cats.gif?w=175&h=130
21:54.15beandogokay that makes me wanna get a cat
21:56.01SunSparcAwesome James Bond cat.
22:02.44wpscheck out the dropler URL that was just auto generated:
22:02.51wpshttp://drp.ly/Frik
22:03.00wpsFrik
22:03.01wps:)
22:05.00beandogwps?
22:05.04beandogwhats that
22:05.16wpswhat is the screenshot of?
22:05.34beandogwell, all of it
22:06.55beandogI dont get what it is
22:07.01wpsan app I am designing
22:07.06wpsa Study Notebook for the Church
22:08.21beandogoh yah?
22:11.07wpshttp://drp.ly/Qy2S
22:13.00beandogwps, intresting
22:13.21wpshttp://drp.ly/rJCD
22:14.13wpsyou'll be able to select any text, image, or video and then share or save it into your notebook… with the option to change highlight color, tag, or annotate
22:14.49beandoghuh
22:19.20wpswould you use it?
22:19.26beandogno
22:19.57beandogI actually use notebooks to keep track of that stuff
22:20.16beandogGenerally, t he more personalized something is, the less I like to use technology.
22:21.24wpsI'm the same way
22:21.41wpsfunny thing… designing a product where I'm not the target audience
22:22.24beandogman
22:22.29beandogthats how every project Ive had at work is.
22:27.07*** join/#uphpu redroy (~Adium@c-174-52-217-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net)
22:49.25beandogHmm
22:49.32beandogI was gonna leave, but then I realized I'd be the first one out the door
22:49.41beandogmaybe if I distract them with candy
22:51.00influxCANDY?!
22:52.53*** part/#uphpu mgeary (~mgeary@166.70.44.49)
22:53.52beandogHallelujah
22:54.04beandogI finally made a succesful POST request to  my REST API
22:54.10beandogMan, that's tricky w/Prototype
22:54.23beandogEspecially b/c how it serializes forms is *whacked*
22:54.31beandogIt says it returns a Hash object, but nooooo ... it doesn't.
22:54.46beandogcan I go home now?
22:55.49beandogyah I think Im outta
22:55.51beandogIll see you guys later
22:59.19SunSparcNight allz!

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