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| 03:07.51 | brasto | ~chuckfact |
| 03:07.51 | ibot | When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for Chuck Norris |
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| 03:09.55 | herlo | brasto: hola |
| 03:10.11 | brasto | hey herlo! |
| 03:10.27 | herlo | brasto: been wondering what's up with you lately, haven't seen you around here much |
| 03:11.13 | herlo | thought it could be me |
| 03:11.18 | brasto | I check the chat room occasionally, but I started school in my life ambition a couple weeks ago in Marriage and Family Therapy, so I've been unexpectedly busy. |
| 03:11.47 | brasto | you though you drove me away somehow? Nope! Not a chance! You've been a good friend from the start. |
| 03:12.00 | herlo | lol |
| 03:12.08 | herlo | no driving you away sir |
| 03:12.21 | brasto | :) |
| 03:12.22 | brasto | lol |
| 03:12.34 | herlo | just saw some fb statuses that seemed a bit crazy. |
| 03:12.45 | brasto | I thought it would take me another year to get into a program, but I found one I could start right away. |
| 03:12.51 | brasto | oh, which ones? |
| 03:12.56 | herlo | Single life is actually kind of fun, you know. Even for a father of four |
| 03:13.13 | herlo | those ones...it's been a month or two iirc |
| 03:13.57 | herlo | brasto: but it sounds like it's a good move to start school these days, everyone is doing it!! |
| 03:14.01 | herlo | :P |
| 03:14.31 | brasto | yea, maybe the market will be better by the time I'm out. If not, maybe I'll skip the country... lol |
| 03:14.38 | herlo | indeed! |
| 03:15.12 | herlo | timing is important too, there's no way that 1 year after my divorce I was ready to get marred again, but I almost slipped down that path after only 6 monhts |
| 03:15.59 | herlo | but alas, while I really liked her, she just really wanted someone to pay the bills and be a father to her kids. I couldn't have that without having my relationship be with her first :) |
| 03:16.43 | herlo | anyway, I'm glad you are taking things slow. School is a great way to make sure you get your life on track the way you want! |
| 03:18.00 | brasto | yea, I jumped into things too fast. I wish I'd have taken it slower because I'd have her for a friend still, or I think I would. But now she feels awkward around me. School will at least keep my mind busy, and it's going right where I've always wanted to go. IT was always a hobby for me, not a real ambition, and I think it showed. |
| 03:18.29 | herlo | I think you've made a wise move, my friend |
| 03:18.53 | herlo | brasto: we need to get together sometime soon, hang out and do nerdy things |
| 03:19.13 | brasto | haha, yea, that would be nice :) |
| 03:19.40 | herlo | so life is a bit crazy here too |
| 03:20.24 | brasto | wow, so you're working directly for RH then now? |
| 03:20.36 | herlo | with a partner, yes |
| 03:21.03 | herlo | brasto: there's a lot going on in my life as of late :) |
| 03:21.07 | herlo | all good stuff |
| 03:21.12 | brasto | nice! |
| 03:22.55 | herlo | I'm also going to be starting up an infrastructure consulting component of this business too, so it's not all travel and training |
| 03:27.42 | brasto | wow, very cool! Still reading. |
| 03:27.58 | herlo | nw, I'll be here for a bit |
| 03:36.17 | brasto | I've had a couple interruptions while reading, so I'm still not done. I'm up to where you said you're moving. When I finish my degree, I might move too. Part of it is to get away from my parents who I think will try to follow me unless I go fairly far away. I might even go to Brazil, where Julie served her mission, to get a piece of culture for the family and myself to grow on. I'm also about ready to disavow all dating for a while. |
| 03:37.04 | herlo | hehe |
| 03:41.16 | brasto | I sometimes feel a little disappointed that Bryan Croft and Dax Kelson don't participate in the open source/free software communities more. They seem closed into their own roles at GL, but don't do much outside of it, and they could add a lot. |
| 03:42.05 | herlo | indeed |
| 03:42.30 | herlo | Dax does a bit, but it's in the kernel community or specific groups within there. It usually is for his own benefit though... |
| 03:44.50 | brasto | yea, that's the right wording... that they only do stuff for their own benefit. The point of the communities, the one you've captured so well, is the giving back and getting because you give. |
| 03:44.54 | herlo | brasto: I'm kind of happy that I was let go from GL |
| 03:45.22 | herlo | it's lead to some great opportunities and my future is lookign bright. However, I can never discount their help in getting me many of the skills I have today... |
| 03:45.25 | brasto | you seem only to have grown since then |
| 03:45.34 | herlo | brasto: as have you |
| 03:46.07 | brasto | thank you! I have learned a lot, and I also gained something from the 3 months I was there. |
| 03:46.38 | herlo | well, I was referring to life's lessons to both of us :) |
| 03:46.47 | herlo | but skills are always useful thigns to gain |
| 03:47.54 | herlo | brasto: anyway, I have got to hit the hay, class in the morning |
| 03:48.04 | herlo | nice chatting with you, hope all is well with the fam |
| 03:48.04 | brasto | yep, most of what I learned were life lessons, though I gained a few skills, too. |
| 03:48.12 | brasto | Good luck with your class, it was nice chatting. |
| 03:48.18 | herlo | ttfn |
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| 14:49.23 | ninnypants | morning all |
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| 15:00.31 | Utah_Dave | wow. A coworker is out of town. Another coworker grabbed his keyboard to test a new server and found our system wide root password on a sticky note under the keyboard. |
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| 15:13.58 | SunSparc | Utah_Dave: yikes! |
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| 15:23.35 | Utah_Dave | SunSparc: exactly. Who does that? We took a picture of the incriminating evidence |
| 15:23.49 | Utah_Dave | It's about time to change that password anyway |
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| 15:37.23 | herlo | lol |
| 15:40.47 | mgeary | hey, is there an easy trick to get sed to do a multi-line match? |
| 15:41.46 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 15:42.16 | herlo | mgeary: % |
| 15:44.22 | herlo | macnewbold: ping |
| 15:44.38 | herlo | mgeary: how many lines do you need to match?? |
| 15:44.51 | herlo | mgeary: or are you saying you need to match multiple items on a line |
| 15:45.08 | mgeary | http://austinmatzko.com/2008/04/26/sed-multi-line-search-and-replace/ |
| 15:45.11 | mgeary | going through that now |
| 15:45.54 | herlo | yeah, I was going to recommend /g |
| 15:46.49 | herlo | but I see what you are trying to do now, it's all about the match |
| 15:46.54 | mgeary | yeah |
| 15:47.20 | thebigdog | mgeary: that might be a little more than what you need |
| 15:47.32 | mgeary | thebigdog: i'm open to snippets/examples |
| 15:47.33 | thebigdog | if you are just wanting to find all matches use the g |
| 15:47.43 | thebigdog | what are you trying to do? |
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| 15:49.21 | thebigdog | it really depends if you pattern spans over mulitple lines |
| 15:49.24 | mgeary | it does |
| 15:49.29 | mgeary | this is the grep that works for me: |
| 15:49.52 | mgeary | \s*^.+foo[^|]+\Z |
| 15:49.57 | mgeary | but sed doesn't like it |
| 15:50.03 | mgeary | (grep -P) |
| 15:50.34 | mgeary | basically i want to match all white space before a line containing 'foo', and that line through the end of the document |
| 15:51.15 | thebigdog | hehe sed does not support perl regex |
| 15:51.21 | mgeary | bah |
| 15:51.29 | thebigdog | and you want sed to replace that with? |
| 15:51.31 | herlo | just change it to posix |
| 15:51.38 | herlo | not hard |
| 15:51.46 | mgeary | my posix-grep-fu is weak |
| 15:53.28 | mgeary | i had a nice sed script that did multi-line stuff, but i've misplaced it |
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| 15:59.48 | thebigdog | can you paste some example text and I can help you with your regex |
| 16:05.36 | thebigdog | this might work for you /\s*foo[^|]*/gm |
| 16:17.39 | mitchmorby | anyone familiar with the MSIS program at the U? http://www.business.utah.edu/master-of-science-in-information-systems |
| 16:18.04 | thebigdog | mgeary: also know that the mac version of sed is very limited |
| 16:18.21 | thebigdog | i like to use the gnu sed and or ssed (super-sed) |
| 16:18.49 | thebigdog | mitchmorby: nope |
| 16:19.06 | thebigdog | i know that macnewbold i think has a masters from the u |
| 16:20.08 | thebigdog | and mgeary gnu sed should handle the perl regex and multiline regex too |
| 16:24.39 | mitchmorby | thanks thebigdog. maybe i'll ask macnewbold when he's around |
| 16:25.07 | thebigdog | mitchmorby: np |
| 16:25.33 | mitchmorby | i'm kinda just shopping around for graduate programs at the moment. if anyone has any recommendations, i'm happy to hear them :) |
| 16:25.52 | thebigdog | u has some good ones |
| 16:26.00 | thebigdog | i have looked at others under computer science |
| 16:26.09 | thebigdog | and i have looked at carnegie mellon too |
| 16:26.23 | thebigdog | there are some online ones that are pretty good |
| 16:26.37 | thebigdog | i think there are a couple in denver that are online and are decent |
| 16:26.42 | thebigdog | accredited atleast |
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| 16:43.32 | SunSparc | IZ rocks |
| 16:46.20 | mitchmorby | thebigdog, i think the U would be the best for me⦠or maybe online. my wife really likes her job and being close to family, so i'm definitely looking for something nearby |
| 16:46.54 | mitchmorby | now to find a job that will pay for me to go to school... |
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| 17:12.13 | thebigdog | there are many out there right now |
| 17:12.30 | thebigdog | if you are good at java we have some positions open here at the company that i work for |
| 17:12.42 | thebigdog | mgeary: did you get those comments above |
| 17:12.49 | mgeary | hey, thebigdog |
| 17:12.56 | mgeary | i ended up just writing a python script to process the files |
| 17:13.00 | mgeary | ~sed-- |
| 17:13.01 | mgeary | ;) |
| 17:13.10 | thebigdog | haha |
| 17:13.37 | thebigdog | now how are you going to increase your sed-fu? |
| 17:15.12 | mgeary | indeed |
| 17:51.59 | stderr | pew pew pew |
| 17:54.15 | stderr | How's life, gentlemen? |
| 17:54.37 | Utah_Dave | good here! |
| 17:54.40 | Utah_Dave | You? |
| 17:55.12 | stderr | pretty good, just wrapping stuff up at work this week before I go on vacation \m/ |
| 17:55.14 | SunSparc | stderr: You should have said, "How are you gentleman". |
| 17:55.29 | jsmith | SunSparc: Then what category would that put you in? |
| 17:55.47 | stderr | hehe |
| 17:55.52 | SunSparc | ~lart jsmith |
| 17:55.52 | ibot | beats jsmith severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken |
| 17:56.09 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:56.48 | romanovic-afk | mgeary: what in the world do you have in a 2 gig photoshop file? |
| 17:57.17 | mgeary | romanovic: client sent it over. it's from a massive big poster, apparently. We're repurposing into a page background |
| 17:57.46 | romanovic | wow |
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| 18:29.32 | mgeary | ~calm supernovia |
| 18:29.33 | ibot | ACTION sooths supernovia, offers a backrub, tea, a jacuzzi and anything else that might help calm supernovia down. |
| 18:30.04 | supernovia | thanks ibot & mgeary |
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| 19:33.50 | supernovia | shakin em with ya, influx |
| 19:37.20 | influx | Thank you. |
| 19:37.30 | influx | Maybe that'll show 'em. |
| 19:47.19 | herlo | ~sooth influx |
| 19:47.27 | herlo | ~soothe influx |
| 19:47.27 | ibot | ACTION exerts a calming influence on influx |
| 19:50.36 | josephscott | today's big announcement at work http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2010/09/27/welcome-windows-live-spaces-bloggers/ |
| 19:52.38 | herlo | ooh! |
| 19:55.03 | josephscott | video of the announcement is here - http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/27/windows-live-blogging/ |
| 19:57.57 | herlo | josephscott: in bed with the devils, I see :) |
| 19:58.23 | josephscott | haha |
| 19:58.40 | josephscott | more people using open source based services as a result, sounds like a good thing to me |
| 19:58.46 | herlo | indeed! |
| 19:59.09 | herlo | and automattic gets the money, but I suspect MS doesn't walk away empty-handed either |
| 20:00.28 | supernovia | agreed :) |
| 20:00.46 | supernovia | Well, I mean agreed that it means more people using open source :) |
| 20:12.40 | influx | herlo: Thanks, dude. :) |
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| 20:36.14 | herlo | influx: anytime |
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| 21:42.11 | wps | welcome, Clifton |
| 21:42.25 | wps | ibot, welcome Clifton |
| 21:42.25 | ibot | [all in unison] Hi, Clifton! |
| 21:43.29 | Clifton | Hi, everyone. :) |
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| 21:51.40 | herlo | Clifton: hola |
| 21:52.24 | wps | 1: write in an input value and submit a form with javascript |
| 21:52.26 | wps | or |
| 21:52.48 | wps | 2: hack his template engine so that he can get the input and the submit button inside of his <form> |
| 21:53.19 | wps | both options workâ¦Â which is worse? ugly templates or submitting a form with javascript? |
| 21:53.32 | wps | I'm not against submitting a form with javascript by any means, but if you can avoid it, might as well |
| 21:53.34 | thebigdog | ugly templates |
| 21:53.46 | mindjuju | never could stomach frameworks |
| 21:53.57 | mindjuju | ~fungus++ |
| 21:53.57 | wps | it's not a framework |
| 21:54.01 | wps | you know meâ¦Â I hate frame works |
| 21:54.07 | mindjuju | ~josephscott++ |
| 21:54.15 | wps | it's just my little engineâ¦Â separates business and display |
| 21:54.22 | mindjuju | oooohhh |
| 21:54.24 | mindjuju | gotch |
| 21:54.44 | wps | I think I agree, thebigdogâ¦Â ugly templates are worse |
| 21:54.59 | mindjuju | if you wrote the engine, i'd hack that first |
| 21:55.07 | mindjuju | consider it an upgrade |
| 21:55.51 | thebigdog | ~upgrade mindjuju |
| 21:55.59 | mindjuju | ~flip thebigdog |
| 21:55.59 | ibot | ACTION gives thebigdog the .|.. ..|. |
| 21:56.04 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 21:56.39 | mindjuju | in 3 words i can sum up the last several days of my life |
| 21:56.44 | mindjuju | I HATE CISCO |
| 21:57.01 | mindjuju | and their website is the FREAKIN' worst |
| 21:57.06 | josephscott | the food company? |
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| 21:57.25 | mindjuju | touche |
| 21:57.27 | wps | looks alright to me |
| 21:57.28 | wps | http://www.sysco.com/ |
| 21:57.57 | mindjuju | man, i've been running up and down ladders looking at access points all weekend |
| 21:58.00 | mindjuju | i hate 'em |
| 21:58.20 | josephscott | sorry, cisco is screwy |
| 21:58.40 | mindjuju | well, the good of it is, we're going to go back on service contract |
| 21:59.07 | mindjuju | finding information on getting the service contract required me to navigate their website, i thought i was going to go loopy |
| 21:59.08 | wps | Clifton works with me |
| 21:59.09 | josephscott | mindjuju: does your company CC do reward points? |
| 21:59.13 | wps | he's a great guy |
| 21:59.35 | mindjuju | i think so, but i don't see 'em |
| 21:59.55 | mindjuju | why you ask? |
| 22:00.10 | josephscott | you can buy giant cisco routers with rewards points |
| 22:00.23 | mindjuju | that's awesome! |
| 22:00.36 | josephscott | yeah, came across it the other day |
| 22:00.57 | josephscott | like this one https://rewards.thankyou.com/b2r/merchandise/itemDetail.do?minimumPoints=&maximumPoints=&itemId=B002VX66MK&parent=&supplierCategoryId=9&merchantId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&path=&categoryName=Routers&keyword=&customDetail= |
| 22:01.03 | josephscott | only 491,800 points |
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| 22:01.19 | wps | excellentâ¦Â my custom engine supported a feature I wasn't aware of |
| 22:01.21 | wps | (yes, I wrote it) |
| 22:01.22 | wps | :) |
| 22:01.31 | wps | a template can include a sub template |
| 22:01.44 | unum | I have that issue quite often |
| 22:01.51 | wps | turns out clean and didn't require javascript |
| 22:01.56 | wps | no hackâ¦Â no mess |
| 22:01.57 | wps | done |
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| 22:02.14 | unum | DIE QBASIC DIE!!!!! |
| 22:02.51 | wps | my first programming was on an Atari 800 in BASIC |
| 22:02.58 | josephscott | mindjuju: here's the one I saw the other day - https://rewards.thankyou.com/b2r/merchandise/itemDetail.do?minimumPoints=&maximumPoints=&itemId=B000667NOE&parent=&supplierCategoryId=9&merchantId=ATVPDKIKX0DER&path=&categoryName=Routers&keyword=&customDetail= |
| 22:03.07 | josephscott | only 1,458,700 points |
| 22:03.09 | wps | I wonder what my son's first will be in ten years |
| 22:04.18 | josephscott | just use telnet and teach them HTTP :-) |
| 22:04.28 | wps | what kinds of projects are they building, mgeary ? |
| 22:04.37 | mgeary | wps: well, we're starting with the total basics |
| 22:04.44 | mgeary | and we're doing it old school -- all on the terminal |
| 22:04.50 | wps | awesome |
| 22:04.51 | mgeary | using nano |
| 22:05.01 | wps | nano? |
| 22:05.13 | wps | terminal editor? |
| 22:05.17 | wps | like pico? |
| 22:05.19 | mgeary | yeah |
| 22:05.31 | wps | more user friendly thank vi? |
| 22:05.34 | wps | s/thank/than/ |
| 22:05.42 | wps | better for kids? |
| 22:06.01 | mgeary | right |
| 22:06.57 | mgeary | but today we spend 15 minutes just on talking about "cd" and "pwd" and what directories are and why it matters where you are |
| 22:07.20 | wps | starting with the terminal is an interesting experience |
| 22:07.31 | wps | I bet if that was the first you ever new of computers it wouldn't be |
| 22:07.38 | wps | but knowing a GUI firstâ¦Â coming to that was strange |
| 22:07.41 | wps | you feel blind |
| 22:09.43 | mgeary | yeah |
| 22:09.49 | mgeary | exactly |
| 22:10.21 | mgeary | even just training them to understand that some of the most valuable programs don't have a GUI, they just manipulate data |
| 22:10.41 | mgeary | of course, they just want to make games |
| 22:10.49 | mgeary | but i am glad to have 4 girls in the class |
| 22:10.55 | wps | impressive |
| 22:10.59 | wps | that's at your kid's school, right? |
| 22:11.03 | mgeary | yeah |
| 22:11.06 | wps | volunteer? |
| 22:11.12 | mgeary | yeah |
| 22:11.17 | wps | that's awesome |
| 22:12.08 | mgeary | it's a lot of fun |
| 22:13.01 | wps | my four year old daughter had her tonsils removed today |
| 22:13.12 | wps | after the surgery, when she was waking up, she had to go to the bathroom |
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| 22:13.20 | wps | I took her into the bathroom and was helping her |
| 22:13.24 | wps | she was still pretty drugged up |
| 22:13.26 | wps | it was hilarious |
| 22:13.35 | mgeary | heh |
| 22:13.37 | wps | she could barely stand up and was slurring her speech |
| 22:13.39 | wps | pretty funny |
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| 22:19.44 | mgeary | wps: did she get the adenoids out as well |
| 22:19.44 | mgeary | ? |
| 22:19.52 | wps | yeah |
| 22:19.59 | mgeary | yeah, we did that about a year ago |
| 22:20.02 | wps | not completelyâ¦Â but she didn't have much |
| 22:20.03 | mgeary | maybe not quite |
| 22:20.09 | mgeary | same age |
| 22:20.27 | wps | they couldn't take them all because they discovered that she has a split uvula |
| 22:20.40 | macnewbold | ~language wps |
| 22:20.40 | ibot | ACTION grabs wps by the ear and washes wps's mouth out with soap |
| 22:20.41 | wps | and if they took them all, she might have a hard time sealing |
| 22:21.00 | macnewbold | :-D sorry, couldn't resist.... |
| 22:21.07 | wps | you scared me |
| 22:21.21 | wps | had me triple-checking my spelling there :) |
| 22:21.25 | mgeary | hahah |
| 22:21.52 | wps | apparently a split uvula is a super-mild form of cleft pallet |
| 22:21.53 | macnewbold | i had to |
| 22:28.21 | ninnypants | herlo ping |
| 22:29.09 | influx | Weird. I have a split uvula. |
| 22:29.18 | influx | Not widely split, but noticably. |
| 22:39.08 | josephscott | carmony: are you coming to UTOSC? |
| 22:39.31 | carmony | josephscott: I hope so, I booked my hotel :P |
| 22:39.42 | josephscott | you are staying at a hotel? |
| 22:39.59 | carmony | yeah, I have to be there early and leave late |
| 22:40.07 | carmony | don't feel like driving back and forth and back and forth :P |
| 22:40.29 | josephscott | man, if my sister and her family weren't visiting that week you could crash at my house |
| 22:40.55 | carmony | yeah, well, don't feel too bad, Carmony Technologies is covering it ;) |
| 22:41.09 | macnewbold | carmony: you coulda bunked at my place if you wanted... |
| 22:41.16 | macnewbold | you could have had your own room even |
| 22:41.26 | josephscott | carmony: well, offer is open in the future |
| 22:41.32 | carmony | Good to know :) |
| 22:41.38 | carmony | you going josephscott ? |
| 22:41.44 | josephscott | yep, I'm presenting |
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| 22:42.26 | carmony | yeah, I forgot to submit an abstract... |
| 22:42.27 | carmony | :P |
| 22:42.41 | josephscott | I waited to submit mine 5 minutes before the dead line :-) |
| 22:43.07 | carmony | I mean, I could insert a presentation record into the Database... |
| 22:43.15 | josephscott | haha |
| 22:43.22 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 22:43.23 | macnewbold | nice |
| 23:02.05 | herlo | ninnypants: pong |
| 23:02.50 | herlo | carmony: lol, no you couldn't |
| 23:03.04 | carmony | I could try :P |
| 23:03.12 | carmony | lol |
| 23:03.14 | herlo | :P |
| 23:17.45 | mgeary | ~threaten carmony |
| 23:18.23 | carmony | ack! |
| 23:20.32 | josephscott | ~rlart |
| 23:20.32 | ibot | frags thebigdog with his BFG9000 |
| 23:20.52 | carmony | :P |
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| 23:30.56 | mindjuju | got to love it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2fLg52wJgM |
| 23:31.45 | mindjuju | ^^ DtD |