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| 07:54.19 | tierra | you would think that a piece of PHP software that runs on 50,000 websites with over 35 million users in 214 countries would have already figured it might have been a bad idea to define "global $db;" |
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| 13:34.10 | jsmith | tierra: You think? |
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| 15:03.01 | mindjuju | bromine is dangerous stuff, fungus |
| 15:03.17 | fungus | hehe, no kidding. |
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| 15:26.55 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Looking for Presenters for upcoming meetings - contact macnewbold | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 15:27.11 | macnewbold | anyone here interested in presenting at a UPHPU meeting? |
| 15:27.28 | carmony_ | ooh ooh, me! |
| 15:27.30 | carmony_ | wait... |
| 15:27.34 | carmony_ | :P |
| 15:28.48 | macnewbold | yeah, I got you down already... what are your "phundamentals" going to be this month? :-) |
| 15:34.05 | mgeary | watch out, carmony_, if you say that to herlo, you'll find yourself booked before you know it |
| 15:35.49 | supernovia | I have classes on Thursday nights this semester :-( |
| 15:35.58 | herlo | lol |
| 15:36.05 | herlo | mgeary: you know you wanted to do it :) |
| 15:36.11 | supernovia | oh hey, herlo |
| 15:36.14 | supernovia | q for you |
| 15:36.19 | herlo | supernovia: I saw it |
| 15:36.59 | herlo | wanted to give it a day of thought is all |
| 15:37.15 | herlo | supernovia: did I answer the right question?? :) |
| 15:37.51 | supernovia | Yeah :) |
| 15:38.04 | unum | wednesday? |
| 15:38.07 | supernovia | I am trying to figure out whether I've got Saturday Morning free to play or not. |
| 15:38.14 | unum | I thought uphpu meetings were thursday |
| 15:38.31 | supernovia | wednesday what? |
| 15:38.32 | supernovia | really? |
| 15:39.16 | unum | I wonder if my work would allow it me to hold meetings here.... |
| 15:39.19 | unum | maybe after nov |
| 15:43.05 | cedwards | have ya'll seen this? http://www.secretgeek.net/dod_intro.asp |
| 15:44.00 | SunSparc | lol, "the awesome power of Batch scripts" |
| 15:44.43 | thebigdog | macnewbold: what topics are you looking for |
| 15:45.39 | SunSparc | cedwards: that rock |
| 15:45.41 | SunSparc | s |
| 15:46.14 | cedwards | SunSparc: welcome to the future :) |
| 15:46.16 | mindjuju | i LOVES me some batch files |
| 15:46.26 | mindjuju | future! psh! i still use batch |
| 15:48.44 | macnewbold | thebigdog: what topics you interested in presenting? |
| 15:48.49 | macnewbold | we're pretty open |
| 15:49.34 | mindjuju | it's been a while since anybody presented on apache |
| 15:49.50 | mindjuju | in fact, the last thing that remotely touched apache, that i remember, was fungus on SSL |
| 15:50.10 | mindjuju | where he took what took me a billion steps and put it into a hawt 1 line command |
| 15:50.14 | mindjuju | which i forget at the moment |
| 15:51.14 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.06 | mindjuju | DtD , look what i just bought - http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/abea/ |
| 15:52.09 | mindjuju | i'm so happy! |
| 15:52.59 | supernovia | I want some of those. But I don't have a magnetic surface :-S |
| 15:53.12 | mindjuju | i've got 2 just outside my cube |
| 15:53.20 | fungus | openssl req -new -newkey rsa:1024 -days 365 -nodes -x509 -keyout domain.key > domain.crt |
| 15:53.36 | mindjuju | yup, that's it |
| 15:53.37 | unum | I'd show dos on dope to me coworkers, but I'm afraid they would want to us eit |
| 15:54.01 | fungus | Self-signed key/cert in one step |
| 15:54.26 | mindjuju | ~fungus++ |
| 15:54.46 | mindjuju | oh MAN, this is funny - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oet6tez76Lg&feature=player_embedded |
| 15:57.54 | cedwards | herlo: I keep trying to use nginx and keep getting discouraged. |
| 15:58.53 | herlo | cedwards: sexysexypenguins.com is currently running it |
| 15:59.21 | mindjuju | psh, herlo knows all |
| 15:59.24 | mindjuju | ~herlo++ |
| 15:59.36 | herlo | in fact, I need to spend more time with it, but the benefits are supposed to outweigh apache for scalability and speed. |
| 15:59.43 | herlo | Since it's event driven |
| 16:01.29 | cedwards | herlo: I'm still having problems getting the basics working.. nginx + php |
| 16:01.35 | cedwards | herlo: keep going back to lighttpd. |
| 16:01.54 | thebigdog | nginx is sezy |
| 16:02.56 | mgeary | thebigdog: is that sleazy? or sexy? |
| 16:02.56 | herlo | cedwards: really? I can send you some configs I have if that will help |
| 16:03.06 | thebigdog | both that is the beauty |
| 16:03.08 | cedwards | herlo: I'll have a look, sure. |
| 16:03.35 | thebigdog | macnewbold: i'll have to check and see what has been done and what might be beneficial |
| 16:05.10 | thebigdog | macnewbold: do we have this month scheduled already? |
| 16:05.23 | mindjuju | yeah, it's you |
| 16:05.49 | mindjuju | congrats! what you presenting on? |
| 16:06.09 | macnewbold | thebigdog: i've got a guy that i'm talking to who might be willing to do this month, but i don't have a commitment from him yet |
| 16:06.10 | macnewbold | so this month is open |
| 16:06.16 | macnewbold | and for now, the highest priority :) |
| 16:07.26 | thebigdog | i wonder how many would be interested in php debugging |
| 16:07.35 | herlo | plenty |
| 16:08.57 | thebigdog | how about development with good music |
| 16:08.58 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 16:13.39 | mgeary | ~xdebug++ |
| 16:14.25 | herlo | mindjuju: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qO23cJ7US0&feature=autofb |
| 16:16.26 | thebigdog | yes mgeary that is what i love too use |
| 16:16.58 | herlo | the outtakes are awesome! |
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| 16:49.51 | macnewbold | thebigdog: debugging would be cool, and good music doesn't hurt either |
| 16:49.57 | macnewbold | www.symphonyofscience.com |
| 17:54.37 | Utah_Dave | I'm putting together a 14 TB nas on Fedora 13. Which file system would you all recommend? We're starting with XFS, but I was wondering if we should go to EXT4 |
| 17:55.50 | Utah_Dave | ~ping thebigdog |
| 17:55.51 | ibot | pong thebigdog |
| 17:55.59 | Utah_Dave | ~ping fungus |
| 17:56.00 | ibot | pong fungus |
| 17:57.27 | fungus | First layer I recommend is LVM |
| 17:58.19 | fungus | as far as FS is concerned generally some flavor of Ext, unless your usage can be leveraged with benefits of another. |
| 17:58.49 | Utah_Dave | OK, we'll probably go with Ext4 |
| 17:59.14 | fungus | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 |
| 17:59.36 | fungus | That is interesting to read |
| 18:01.38 | fungus | looks like Ext3/4 is better for large numbers of files |
| 18:02.29 | fungus | and it's compatibility is unparalleled |
| 18:03.36 | Utah_Dave | Huh, maybe we'll leave xfs after reading that. |
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| 18:21.15 | supernovia | hey herlo.. pingio |
| 18:23.13 | herlo | supernovia: pong |
| 18:23.19 | supernovia | thanks :) |
| 18:23.30 | herlo | uh, okay? |
| 18:23.49 | supernovia | Think it'd be OK to just stick with the library for the location this Saturday |
| 18:23.52 | supernovia | ? |
| 18:24.39 | supernovia | I'm stressing out over everything going on this week |
| 18:24.59 | supernovia | if I knew one way or the other now that'd be cool but since I don't I think keeping it simple and saying let's just plan on it next time might be best |
| 18:25.13 | supernovia | woo, that could have used some punctuation. |
| 18:25.54 | herlo | supernovia: yeah, it's all good |
| 18:26.56 | herlo | supernovia: the only thing I was planning was for food, so we'll probably just eat outside or something... |
| 18:27.01 | supernovia | coolio. But really, next time you need a space, as long as you can give me a firm yes or no several days in advance that'd be awesome |
| 18:27.06 | supernovia | Well, hm. |
| 18:27.18 | supernovia | what do you want to do? |
| 18:29.29 | mindjuju | if we're still looking for a place, we could do my house, has wifi |
| 18:29.32 | mindjuju | could meet and BBQ |
| 18:29.34 | mindjuju | just sayin' |
| 18:29.38 | mindjuju | bbq |
| 18:29.38 | herlo | supernovia: just needed food stuffs |
| 18:29.40 | herlo | mindjuju: we could |
| 18:29.45 | mindjuju | bbq |
| 18:29.46 | supernovia | bbq is awesome. |
| 18:29.50 | mindjuju | did i mention bbq? |
| 18:29.53 | herlo | mindjuju: hmm, yeah, can we really? |
| 18:30.00 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 18:30.09 | mindjuju | to both, meet and bbq |
| 18:30.33 | herlo | mindjuju: let's |
| 18:30.37 | mindjuju | k |
| 18:30.44 | herlo | I'll just update it and we can pay for the meat |
| 18:30.48 | herlo | we == UTOS |
| 18:30.57 | mindjuju | sounds good |
| 18:31.24 | herlo | mindjuju: will you prep it and we'll meet at yoru place at 10am? Is Tiff okay with that? |
| 18:31.29 | supernovia | there ya go. |
| 18:31.36 | herlo | supernovia: you can come too :) |
| 18:31.56 | supernovia | thanks :) |
| 18:32.26 | herlo | supernovia: anyone who wants to help us with UTOSC can help :) |
| 18:32.30 | herlo | and get bbq :) |
| 18:32.46 | herlo | but I don't know how much room Victor has, though I bet he has a nice big back yard |
| 18:33.48 | supernovia | yeah mindjuju is pretty awesome |
| 18:33.54 | supernovia | I just have craziness this week :S |
| 18:34.01 | herlo | nw |
| 18:34.27 | mindjuju | having living room, kitchen side by side with enough room for several with a door in between |
| 18:35.29 | mindjuju | tiffany says it coo |
| 18:35.36 | supernovia | tiffany is cool |
| 18:35.52 | mindjuju | she's a cutie! |
| 18:36.01 | supernovia | she's a wonder woman |
| 18:36.08 | supernovia | man, I have seen so many WW posts lately |
| 18:36.42 | mindjuju | i actually bought her all episodes of WW a couple years back |
| 18:36.47 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:36.49 | mindjuju | i'll be back |
| 18:38.06 | herlo | tiffany is cool |
| 18:38.36 | herlo | mindjuju: let's get that announced today to the group, sound okay? |
| 18:46.19 | supernovia | thanks herlo & mindjuju |
| 18:46.26 | supernovia | see ya soon |
| 18:46.40 | herlo | ya! |
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| 19:09.47 | carmony_ | oh no... I've spent the last hour... reading this guy's blog.... |
| 19:10.55 | carmony_ | http://www.secretgeek.net/ |
| 19:10.58 | undertakingyou | carmony_: is it a good blog though? |
| 19:11.10 | carmony_ | it's hillarious |
| 19:32.13 | carmony_ | oh dear.... http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1705008/simple-proof-that-guid-is-not-unique |
| 19:34.28 | jsmith | carmony_: Classic! |
| 19:35.20 | beandog | That's why I never ask questions. |
| 19:35.21 | carmony_ | I laughed so hard my wife asked me what was so funny, and when I tried to explain it... |
| 19:35.31 | carmony_ | she couldn't get it |
| 19:38.36 | SunSparc | LOL, "Please use a time machine to make support requests on that day only." |
| 19:39.30 | SunSparc | LOL reserveSomeRam = null |
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| 19:46.36 | unum | beandog: you don't ask questions because you're afraid you'll ask one that can't be solved before the sun burns out? |
| 19:47.03 | unum | my favorite is still the one where they looking for people to solve p=np and several people said they could |
| 19:48.12 | carmony_ | p=np? |
| 19:48.39 | unum | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%3Dnp |
| 19:53.39 | carmony_ | ah |
| 19:55.45 | DexterTheDragon | carmony_: http://www.getacoder.com/projects/solve%20p%20vs%20np_132036.html |
| 19:57.15 | unum | ya that's the link I was talking about |
| 19:58.19 | fungus | judging on the bids at that link, I think getacoder is all spam. |
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| 20:55.25 | mindjuju | anybody here ever done computer forensics ? |
| 20:55.47 | SunSparc | computer forensics = it helpdesk? |
| 20:56.05 | mindjuju | so utah_dave, i've got a problem that i think forensics could help with |
| 20:56.10 | SunSparc | "Hello, my computer was murdered, can you help me resurrect it?" |
| 20:56.30 | mindjuju | i've got an application that has a billion settings, and I need to move that application and settings to a different computer |
| 20:56.31 | mindjuju | but |
| 20:56.47 | mindjuju | there aren't any advanced export utilities |
| 20:57.03 | mindjuju | i'm wondering if forensics could help by telling me what registry keys belong to the application |
| 20:57.11 | mindjuju | and I try to caryy everything accross manually |
| 20:57.22 | mindjuju | so, rgistry keys, dlls, etc |
| 21:02.07 | SunSparc | mindjuju: That could be very tedious. |
| 21:02.26 | mindjuju | yup, the alternative disasterous |
| 21:02.33 | mindjuju | disastrous, even |
| 21:02.40 | SunSparc | ~lart the registry |
| 21:02.40 | ibot | slaps the registry upside the head with a wet fish |
| 21:03.35 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Are you moving the whole OS install to a new machine? Or just that application? |
| 21:03.43 | mindjuju | just application |
| 21:03.48 | SunSparc | beandog: it is the best thing out there :) |
| 21:03.57 | SunSparc | That I know of. |
| 21:03.59 | SunSparc | For Free |
| 21:04.04 | beandog | SunSparc, well, its detecting video frame rate changes, so that makes me happy. |
| 21:04.29 | SunSparc | mindjuju: have you tried moving anything yet? |
| 21:04.43 | mindjuju | nope |
| 21:04.58 | mindjuju | i was looking for a way to help me scoop up everything |
| 21:05.01 | SunSparc | It might end up being a trial by error process. |
| 21:05.15 | mindjuju | i'd rather it not be |
| 21:05.17 | SunSparc | Yeah, an app migration tool would be handy. |
| 21:05.21 | mindjuju | hence the forensics |
| 21:05.25 | SunSparc | Right |
| 21:05.41 | mindjuju | even if i have to install the app on a system where sometihng monitors what happened |
| 21:05.57 | mindjuju | that would be infinitely better than trying to set the settings just right again |
| 21:07.10 | SunSparc | I have never see a Windows application that would migration another application to another system, though I have wanted on before. On Mac, that is another story. You can drag the app folder to another machine and it will run just the same. But you probably do not want to hear about that. |
| 21:07.36 | SunSparc | That does not mean there is not such a program out there. |
| 21:07.51 | SunSparc | Have you google for app migration tools? |
| 21:07.57 | mindjuju | well, i don't think such a program exists, and if so, reliably |
| 21:08.06 | mindjuju | but what i am looking for is a tool that monitors what got installed where |
| 21:08.18 | mindjuju | anti-virus and malware guys have to have something similar |
| 21:08.34 | mindjuju | else, how would they know obscuredll.dll in sys32 was put there by the virus? |
| 21:09.04 | SunSparc | Well, the application should have records of all of that. The trick is accessing that information. Perhaps a tool has been created. |
| 21:09.55 | SunSparc | Does the app have an install log text file on the file system? |
| 21:10.47 | mindjuju | i'll have to check |
| 21:12.28 | carmony_ | wow... on a conf call with a client... and they cannot say "modal" correctly |
| 21:12.43 | mindjuju | what do they say? |
| 21:13.34 | carmony_ | moodol |
| 21:13.52 | carmony_ | "Can we have one of those moodol boxes?" |
| 21:14.43 | SunSparc | Perhaps they want http://moodle.org/ |
| 21:21.35 | beandog | http://consumerist.com/2010/09/reduce-spending-by-writing-goals-on-your-credit-cards.html |
| 21:21.37 | beandog | thats awesome. |
| 21:21.52 | beandog | or on other people's. whichever comes first. |
| 21:22.11 | orsonj | I think sandboxie will tell you what registry entries, files, etc that a program uses. |
| 21:23.28 | orsonj | Tiny personal firewall 5+ would also monitor similar activity |
| 21:23.40 | orsonj | sandboxie might be more straightforward though. |
| 21:23.59 | orsonj | I don't even know if Tiny is still around. |
| 21:24.21 | mindjuju | i used that a LONG time ago |
| 21:24.42 | orsonj | We used it before XP got its act together |
| 21:25.17 | orsonj | It was interesting when they moved to version 5. Added all kinds of features. You could build rules for almost anything. |
| 21:26.32 | orsonj | I remember reading something from them when a big virus came out. They suggested running the virus on a system protected by Tiny to see what it did and then reverse its damage. |
| 21:34.35 | mindjuju | @beandog - look what i bought today |
| 21:34.36 | mindjuju | http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/cubegoodies/abea/ |
| 21:35.03 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 21:35.04 | ibot | gives beandog an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending beandog to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple |
| 21:35.15 | beandog | I want an apple |
| 21:35.26 | beandog | mindjuju, wow, that is awesome man |
| 21:35.27 | beandog | :D |
| 21:35.41 | mindjuju | i'll take pics when it gets in |
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| 21:41.18 | orsonj | ok, http://www.thinkgeek.com/cf9b == cool |
| 21:41.31 | mindjuju | i saw that, that is cool! |
| 21:42.59 | SunSparc | orsonj: That is on my list. But $90 is a bit steep. |
| 21:45.09 | orsonj | yes, a bit expensive considering a wii remote is half that. |
| 21:46.08 | orsonj | But I love whenever fiction becomes non |
| 21:56.40 | SunSparc | Sweet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7_mOdi3O5E |
| 22:02.39 | supernovia | Yeah I have been thinking about trying that out too |
| 22:02.53 | influx | Woot. Done reorganizing my hard drive. |
| 22:03.03 | influx | Should be smooth sailing from here on out. |
| 22:11.48 | fungus | omg, I just got my new work computer. Quad core i7 woot |
| 22:12.02 | influx | w/ 1 |
| 22:12.09 | influx | May I have your old one? |
| 22:12.54 | fungus | lol, sorry, has to be "trickled down" to the rest of the company |
| 22:14.27 | influx | Rats. |
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| 22:35.13 | SunSparc | http://tumblr.com/x39hwvja3 |
| 22:39.03 | thebigdog | Utah_Dave: did you get your question answered |
| 22:40.40 | thebigdog | i would suggest that you do ext4 if you can |
| 22:42.04 | thebigdog | you can do lvm if you want |
| 22:42.19 | thebigdog | do you plan to add to your raid |
| 22:42.54 | Utah_Dave | It's possible that we add in larger drives later, but we'll stay at the same # of drives |
| 22:43.22 | Utah_Dave | thebigdog: do you suggest ext4 over xfs? |
| 22:43.25 | thebigdog | how are you raidiing them...with hardware raid? |
| 22:43.38 | thebigdog | it depends on what distro you are using |
| 22:43.40 | Utah_Dave | No, we're using the software raid in Fedora |
| 22:43.47 | thebigdog | oh ok |
| 22:44.12 | thebigdog | when i did my big raid about 3yrs ago we had huge issues with centos and the FSs they supported |
| 22:44.40 | thebigdog | they did not have xfs support (or i had to compile it) |
| 22:45.20 | thebigdog | so we only had ext3 and it was hard to get it all going |
| 22:45.26 | thebigdog | cause we had to jump to 8k blocks |
| 22:45.37 | thebigdog | but i see that ext4 supports 4k blocks |
| 22:45.41 | thebigdog | which is nice |
| 22:45.41 | Utah_Dave | a co-worker got excited this morning and went ahead and formatted it with xfs |
| 22:46.04 | Utah_Dave | do you think xfs will work ok at 14 TB? |
| 22:46.10 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 22:46.47 | SunSparc | How about 14 PB? |
| 22:46.56 | SunSparc | Or even 14 PBJ? |
| 22:46.56 | thebigdog | it supports up to 16exabytes |
| 22:47.22 | SunSparc | I think a PBJ is bigger than an exabyte. |
| 22:47.29 | thebigdog | which is 1M terabytes |
| 22:47.33 | thebigdog | so you should be good |
| 22:47.56 | thebigdog | sucks though cause you can only have an 8exabyte file is all |
| 22:48.07 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:48.21 | Utah_Dave | :) well, how big are the latest BlueRay rips? |
| 22:48.55 | fungus | ouch, those are least 18 bajillion bytes |
| 22:49.19 | thebigdog | but i am with fungus if you are going to add to it, do lvm |
| 22:49.28 | fungus | ~lvm++ |
| 22:50.01 | thebigdog | i know with our ext3 and centos we could only support like 9tb or something funky like that |
| 22:50.17 | thebigdog | so we broke it all up |
| 22:50.17 | Utah_Dave | does lvm sit on top of the raid? or below it? |
| 22:50.33 | fungus | on top of raid |
| 22:50.40 | fungus | raid -> LVM -> FS |
| 22:50.43 | thebigdog | top raid is love level |
| 22:50.56 | thebigdog | nice love level that is technical term |
| 22:51.11 | Utah_Dave | all you need is love |
| 22:51.21 | thebigdog | have fun Utah_Dave |
| 22:51.35 | SunSparc | love serving love |
| 22:51.45 | Utah_Dave | so using lvm, how would I expand the raid? |
| 22:52.15 | thebigdog | you expand lvm not the raid |
| 22:52.21 | thebigdog | you add to lvm |
| 22:52.39 | fungus | really depends on how you expand your raid. |
| 22:53.17 | fungus | generally though you just add the new space on your raid to lvm |
| 22:53.33 | Utah_Dave | Oh, so if I connected another external scsi raid to the server I would add that raid to the lvm |
| 22:53.35 | fungus | then extend or create any new file systems |
| 22:53.42 | fungus | right |
| 22:54.47 | fungus | technically you "can" use raid on top of LVM but it's very much not-recommended |
| 22:55.24 | Utah_Dave | OK, cool. |
| 22:58.35 | macnewbold | doh, missed thebigdog by mere minutes... |
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