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| 00:20.08 | influx | arr |
| 00:20.21 | ninnypants | hey influx |
| 00:20.30 | influx | Any idea why a mail script that worked on one server won't work on another as is? |
| 00:20.46 | ninnypants | server's mail config |
| 00:20.52 | jsmith | Different mail config? |
| 00:20.52 | ninnypants | or phps |
| 00:21.06 | influx | phps? |
| 00:21.08 | influx | ah |
| 00:21.10 | influx | right |
| 00:21.18 | ninnypants | the mail config in php.ini |
| 00:22.47 | mindjuju | influx, it could also be that one server's IP has been authorized for relay thorugh SMTP server, and another has not |
| 00:23.00 | mindjuju | check SMTP log if you can, that should tell you real quick the what and why |
| 00:23.14 | mindjuju | bbl |
| 00:23.20 | influx | will do |
| 00:23.21 | influx | thanks |
| 00:23.29 | influx | ninnypants: Hi, btw. |
| 00:24.24 | influx | Oh, I also am using google apps for my mail |
| 00:24.33 | influx | so I don't know if that would mess with anything |
| 00:25.51 | jsmith | tcpdump on port 25 is your friend |
| 00:36.19 | influx | oh, i have an idea |
| 00:36.25 | influx | maybe I don't have sendmail installed |
| 00:36.42 | influx | tried a whereis sendmail |
| 00:36.50 | macnewbold | which sendmail |
| 00:37.09 | macnewbold | try which mail and which mailx too |
| 00:37.15 | macnewbold | sometimes those have something useful |
| 00:38.00 | influx | I receive nothing in return |
| 00:38.18 | influx | brb |
| 00:38.40 | macnewbold | sorry |
| 00:38.43 | macnewbold | maybe it isn't installed? |
| 00:38.55 | macnewbold | you may have some other mta too, so it isn't called sendmail but the functionality is there |
| 00:39.41 | jsmith | rpm -qf `which sendmail` |
| 00:40.39 | influx | rpm is redhat package management? |
| 00:44.24 | jsmith | Aye :-) |
| 00:44.41 | jsmith | But it's also used by SuSE, Mandriva, Fedora, and a few other distros as well |
| 00:45.49 | influx | yep |
| 00:45.50 | influx | that was it |
| 00:45.56 | influx | i didn't have a MTA |
| 00:46.18 | influx | apt-get installed sendmail |
| 00:46.25 | influx | I* apt-get installed sendmail |
| 00:48.58 | influx | Thanks guys. :) |
| 00:50.57 | influx | Whoah. Weird. |
| 00:51.21 | influx | I send one email via my local machine (this laptop) on a comcast connection, and I receive 9 emails. |
| 00:51.32 | influx | 9 emails to the destination account |
| 00:52.41 | influx | They're all from when I first started testing the script too. Strange. |
| 00:52.45 | influx | /endflood |
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| 15:47.16 | mindjuju | you know, i've seen some horrific thigns on the internet (goatse, 2girls1cup), but i can't seem to wrap my noodle around this - http://www.chickenssuit.com/ |
| 15:48.46 | mindjuju | quite disturbing, yet safe for work - http://www.chickenssuit.com/english/collection_05/modelle/hairy/ |
| 15:48.58 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: http://bit.ly/OEIhx ? |
| 15:49.16 | mindjuju | nope, i love submissive chicken |
| 15:49.20 | mindjuju | this is far worse |
| 16:29.28 | SunSparc | Ummm... yeah, what is with the chicken suits? |
| 16:29.59 | mindjuju | like i say, horrific |
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| 17:05.40 | wps | does anyone know the name for those long, heavy bars used to dig a hole? |
| 17:06.01 | wps | they usually have a spike on one end and a flat blade on the other? |
| 17:06.19 | wps | a digging bar? |
| 17:07.01 | mindjuju | http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=digging+bar&cid=1278711206309646003&ei=GipkTP-3BIumiAS0uMHkAw&sa=image&ved=0CAgQ8gIwADgA#p ? |
| 17:07.10 | wps | yup |
| 17:07.19 | wps | http://www.madeinusaforever.com/tabarheducog.html |
| 17:07.24 | wps | looks like they are called digging bars |
| 17:07.31 | wps | thanks |
| 17:07.38 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:17.45 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: did you get all your wiring needs met? |
| 17:44.29 | wps | there are few things I hate more about working than tracking and logging hours |
| 17:44.54 | DexterTheDragon | ~amen wps |
| 17:45.11 | wps | it's especially annoying that I have to do it at my salaried job |
| 17:45.37 | mgeary | wps: yeah, but your employer needs that for billing |
| 17:45.48 | mgeary | and yes, i feel your pain. i hate it as well |
| 17:45.56 | wps | I knowâ¦Â I just hate it |
| 17:46.19 | wps | I've never had to log hours at any other salaried job before this one |
| 17:46.36 | wps | if fact, I haven't had to log hours since I clocked in and out at the grocery store as a sixteen year old |
| 17:46.52 | mgeary | which means you probably worked on fixed-bid projects that had plenty of wiggle room in them, or internal projects |
| 17:47.03 | wps | yeah |
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| 17:47.33 | wps | I can't believe how hot my office gets in the morning (sun shining on other side of wall) |
| 17:48.36 | wps | anyone else enjoy the Dream Girls soundtrack? there's some good stuff in there |
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| 17:51.06 | wps | anyone used Drupal just as a CMS and pulled the content out into another site via their API? |
| 17:52.53 | jtsnow | wps: sounds like an odd use case, but that shouldn't be too difficult |
| 17:53.11 | jsmith | wps: No, but it should be pretty easy |
| 17:53.19 | wps | I've been told that Drupal has a good API and that it should be easy |
| 17:53.20 | jsmith | wps: (I use something similar to stuff data *into* |
| 17:53.26 | jsmith | wps: drupal) |
| 17:53.56 | jsmith | wps: Google for "headless drupal stonemind" and click the "I'm feeling lucky" button |
| 17:54.04 | jsmith | wps: That's the best/easiest way I've found |
| 17:54.30 | wps | excellent |
| 17:54.33 | wps | thanks, jared |
| 18:05.34 | fungus | wps, Dream Girls? Of course. I love it! |
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| 19:25.35 | wps | holy cow |
| 19:25.43 | wps | this skittles commercial is whacked |
| 19:25.43 | wps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8I6d2Axu7c |
| 19:27.27 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:33.12 | mindjuju | my grandma is going in for hip surgery and I need $150, oh and she's blind and deaf in 3 ears |
| 19:33.18 | mindjuju | anybody want to donate? |
| 19:34.58 | fungus | I can think of a better one... The new 12-core MacPros are out, Steam is available on the Mac, and my current computer sucks. Donate $5k pls |
| 19:35.13 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:35.22 | SunSparc | fungus: woot! |
| 19:35.24 | mindjuju | fungus, here is REALLY reason why |
| 19:35.37 | mindjuju | nobody buy please until after my next pay day |
| 19:35.37 | SunSparc | I saw those 12 cores this morning and about peed myself. |
| 19:35.39 | mindjuju | http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=4273296 |
| 19:36.03 | wps | ~ Giclie |
| 19:36.07 | wps | ~Giclie |
| 19:36.17 | wps | ibot, what's a Giclie? |
| 19:36.28 | mindjuju | i think it is a kind of print |
| 19:36.29 | SunSparc | wps: That Skittles commercial is hilarious. |
| 19:36.38 | wps | it makes me uncomfortable |
| 19:36.54 | mindjuju | http://freefactfinder.com/definition/Giclie.html |
| 19:37.19 | mindjuju | i think that means they print it all out using ink jets and then cut it and you get to suspend it |
| 19:37.46 | mindjuju | oh wait, is that just a poster? |
| 19:38.00 | fungus | SunSparc, no kidding, me too. But I couldn't wait for it to be released and bought an iMac i7 instead. |
| 19:38.15 | mindjuju | oh that's sad, i think it is, never mind |
| 19:38.18 | mindjuju | :( |
| 19:38.51 | mindjuju | the only poster worth $150 would be one of jennifer connely, and my wife wouldn't let me hang it up anyways, so why bother? |
| 19:39.02 | fungus | That and $5k is insane |
| 19:39.04 | SunSparc | fungus: Sweet |
| 19:39.11 | SunSparc | Yeah, no kidding. |
| 19:39.18 | SunSparc | But gaming would be AMAZING! |
| 19:39.30 | SunSparc | mindjuju: lol |
| 19:39.48 | mindjuju | my wife knows i have a jen con issue |
| 19:39.52 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:39.59 | fungus | true, but my new iMac is pretty amazing just not "AMAZING!" |
| 19:40.17 | fungus | and I save almost $3k |
| 19:40.25 | SunSparc | fungus: :D win win |
| 19:40.55 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Yeah, my wife knows I still have a crush on Olivia Newton John. hah |
| 19:41.22 | mindjuju | she's pretty in grease, but Xanadu, not so much (from what i remember) |
| 19:41.57 | SunSparc | I disagree. I really dig her voice. |
| 19:42.50 | wps | I love how analysts tell companies what they should do |
| 19:43.21 | wps | why do they think people care what they say? |
| 19:43.23 | SunSparc | Thanks mindjuju :) |
| 19:43.35 | wps | (not referring to analysts hired by companies) |
| 19:43.46 | mindjuju | oh i was going to say |
| 19:43.52 | SunSparc | wps: Because deep down, everyone wants to be told what to do and how to be successful. |
| 19:43.57 | mindjuju | some of those analyst companies can turn a company around |
| 19:44.23 | wps | and last gripe: why in the world to "news publications" publish articles about what analysts think as if it's fact??? |
| 19:44.43 | mindjuju | wps, have an example? |
| 19:45.35 | jsmith | wps: Because perception is reality! |
| 19:47.21 | wps | Analyst Claims September Launch for New iPod Touch, Smaller iPod Nano, Two New MacBook Air Models |
| 19:47.57 | wps | how is that news? |
| 19:48.47 | mindjuju | i think about 90% of time, product leaks are really the marketing team trying to buid hype |
| 19:48.55 | wps | agreed |
| 19:48.58 | mindjuju | so, not news, but not analyst either |
| 19:48.59 | jsmith | agreed |
| 19:49.04 | wps | someone, somewhere is making a guess (perhaps based off of statistics, or the current moon phase) |
| 19:49.27 | jsmith | Or based on inventory levels of certain chips, etc. |
| 19:49.34 | jsmith | Sometimes there is analysis involved |
| 19:49.41 | jsmith | Most times it's nothing more than conjecture |
| 19:49.43 | wps | here's another great one |
| 19:49.50 | mindjuju | @sunsparc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvfE-Cf9Qcc |
| 19:49.57 | wps | Next iPad may use ARM Cortex-A9; Apple TV to go AMD Fusion |
| 19:49.59 | mindjuju | i was actually just starting that hwne you posted yours |
| 19:50.27 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Good stuff. :) She is so shiny. |
| 19:56.20 | wps | you can't ever go wrong with Jamiroquai |
| 19:56.35 | wps | it'd heartily recommend this as well: |
| 19:57.11 | SunSparc | wps: catchy |
| 19:57.49 | SunSparc | Ah yes, I have heard that one. Also catchy. |
| 19:58.50 | wps | what an awkward photo: http://www.lds.org/cm/multimedia/files/book/45225_music_1068460f_choir_st.jpg |
| 19:59.01 | wps | what is that lady on the left looking at? |
| 19:59.33 | wps | the lady on the right is looking off into space as well |
| 19:59.55 | SunSparc | hehe, looks like a composite. |
| 20:10.59 | mindjuju | well, that' sone way to get off a plane - http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/09/flight-attendant-activates-exit-chute-after-dispute-at-j-f-k-then-flees/ |
| 20:13.12 | fungus | lol, that was so 2 days ago |
| 20:13.31 | mindjuju | yeah, i must have missed it |
| 20:13.42 | fungus | hehe |
| 20:13.48 | fungus | but it's so awesome. |
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| 20:28.05 | mindjuju | why? |
| 20:28.14 | mindjuju | @mgeary^^ |
| 20:28.26 | mgeary | their upgrade policies are idiotic |
| 20:28.37 | mindjuju | oh |
| 20:28.42 | mgeary | i tried to buy FlashBuilder 4 Standard edition. i currently have Flex Builder 3 Pro |
| 20:29.15 | mgeary | turns out there is no upgrade path from Flex Pro to FB *standard*. You can upgrade from FB3 Pro to FB4 Pro, but not to the standard |
| 20:29.25 | mgeary | and i don't need FB4 Pro, just standard |
| 20:30.00 | mgeary | furthermore, you cannot upgrade from a suite to an individual product. I have the CS3 master suite, but from there i can only upgrade to another suite. I only need Flash CS5 for now, but there's no upgrade path from my suite to that |
| 20:30.11 | mgeary | i think this is a completely retarded policy |
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| 20:38.11 | beandog | has anyone switched over to 5.3 yet |
| 20:40.35 | wps | no, sorry |
| 20:50.27 | mgeary | hey jsmith |
| 20:50.50 | jsmith | Hey mgeary... what's up? |
| 20:51.09 | mgeary | remind me your title with redhat |
| 20:51.27 | mgeary | hey, what version of python comes with fedora 12 and/or 13? |
| 20:52.49 | mgeary | and/or RHEL 5.3 or 5.4 |
| 20:57.21 | jsmith | mgeary: I'm the Fedora Project Leader |
| 20:57.37 | mgeary | so you don't deal with RHEL |
| 20:57.39 | jsmith | RHEL 5.{34} come with Python 2.6 |
| 20:57.48 | jsmith | Fedora 12 and 13 have 2.6 |
| 20:58.05 | jsmith | Fedora 14 will have 2.7 (and some preview python3 stuff as well) |
| 21:00.43 | mgeary | great, thanks, much |
| 21:04.11 | jsmith | mgeary: Anything more particular you want to know? |
| 21:04.57 | mgeary | i've just got a client who wants us to put an app on RHEL, and i know that CentOS comes with python2.4, which causes problems for me |
| 21:05.33 | mgeary | (a django app) |
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| 21:06.32 | jsmith | mgeary: Ugh, I was wrong... RHEL 5.x has Python 2.4 |
| 21:06.41 | mgeary | doh!!! |
| 21:06.47 | mgeary | jsmith: you totally let me down |
| 21:07.01 | mgeary | aw, man. no donuts for you today |
| 21:07.12 | jsmith | mgeary: I'm checking RHEL 6 now |
| 21:07.25 | mgeary | so how big a deal is it to have python2.6 on RHEL 5.x? |
| 21:07.37 | mgeary | doesn't that run the risk of breaking all kinds of internal scripts and crap? |
| 21:08.04 | jsmith | It does |
| 21:08.10 | jsmith | Can you wait for RHEL 6? |
| 21:08.28 | mgeary | doubt it |
| 21:09.17 | jsmith | :-/ |
| 21:12.09 | DexterTheDragon | ubuntu ftw |
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