| 00:36.34 | *** join/#uphpu mastergunns (~mastergun@c-174-52-57-168.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 01:25.55 | *** part/#uphpu mastergunns (~mastergun@c-174-52-57-168.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 03:50.20 | *** join/#uphpu brasto (~brasto@c-67-182-203-21.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 04:30.46 | *** part/#uphpu nodnarb (~brandon@174-23-244-5.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 05:51.50 | *** join/#uphpu nodnarb (~brandon@174-23-244-5.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 08:30.49 | *** join/#uphpu brasto (~brasto@c-67-182-203-21.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 11:47.35 | *** join/#uphpu Utah_Dave (~boucha@72-166-51-162.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 11:47.35 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o Utah_Dave] by ChanServ |
| 12:07.20 | *** join/#uphpu Utah_Dave (~boucha@72-166-51-162.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 12:07.20 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o Utah_Dave] by ChanServ |
| 13:25.07 | *** join/#uphpu josephscott (~josephsco@74.200.246.169) |
| 13:25.07 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v josephscott] by ChanServ |
| 13:31.35 | macnewbold | ~monday |
| 13:31.36 | ibot | i heard monday is when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix, or and on a more positive note, Monday is a brand new day at the beginning of a brand new week, a place to start over and improve on last week. :), or the end of the weekend, a.k.a. the weekendend |
| 13:52.59 | macnewbold | ~mourn the weekendend |
| 13:53.00 | ibot | ACTION lights some candles for the weekendend |
| 13:53.20 | josephscott | ~lart |
| 13:56.51 | influx | ~dance |
| 13:56.52 | ibot | <(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)> |
| 14:00.48 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 14:00.49 | ibot | stuffs xjohn into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 14:26.51 | *** join/#uphpu carmony (~justin@c-24-10-194-172.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 14:26.51 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v carmony] by ChanServ |
| 14:28.34 | *** join/#uphpu Heartsbane (tsharpe@unaffiliated/heartsbane) |
| 14:28.34 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v Heartsbane] by ChanServ |
| 14:36.41 | carmony | bleh |
| 14:36.46 | carmony | how was everyone's weekend? |
| 14:36.58 | macnewbold | too short |
| 14:38.16 | Heartsbane | +1 |
| 14:40.40 | *** join/#uphpu jamund (~jamund@173-8-91-177-Utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 14:45.23 | carmony | my was wreaked when by back decided to freak out on me |
| 14:45.25 | carmony | :P |
| 14:46.06 | carmony | http://blog.tabini.ca/2010/07/wordpress-and-the-gpl-the-day-after/ -- interesting read about WordPress / GPL. A refreshing different opinion on the matter |
| 14:48.53 | josephscott | so any license that hasn't been tested in a court of law is invalid? |
| 14:51.41 | *** join/#uphpu cro (~cro@166-70-222-105.ip.xmission.com) |
| 14:52.24 | *** join/#uphpu blendmaster1024 (~blendmast@unaffiliated/blendmaster1024) |
| 15:05.07 | *** join/#uphpu fungus (~olsonl@bromine.sosstaffing.com) |
| 15:05.07 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o fungus] by ChanServ |
| 15:05.21 | josephscott | better post on WP, themes, GPL - http://markjaquith.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/why-wordpress-themes-are-derivative-of-wordpress/ |
| 15:16.14 | *** join/#uphpu itimber (~Timothy@68.143.2.178.nw.nuvox.net) |
| 15:16.15 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v itimber] by ChanServ |
| 15:20.34 | itimber | morning guys |
| 15:22.19 | *** join/#uphpu mgeary (~mgeary@166.70.44.49) |
| 15:22.19 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v mgeary] by ChanServ |
| 15:38.11 | *** join/#uphpu jamund (~jamund@173-8-91-177-Utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 15:39.30 | *** join/#uphpu SunSparc (~sparky@173-8-91-177-Utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 15:39.31 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v SunSparc] by ChanServ |
| 16:04.21 | *** join/#uphpu beandog (~steve@gentoo/developer/beandog) |
| 16:04.22 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v beandog] by ChanServ |
| 16:18.55 | beandog | buenos |
| 16:24.55 | *** join/#uphpu carmony (~justin@174-23-242-235.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 16:24.55 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v carmony] by ChanServ |
| 16:48.01 | *** join/#uphpu ninnypants (~ninnypant@69.169.155.194.provo.static.broadweavenetworks.net) |
| 16:48.10 | ninnypants | morning all |
| 16:51.39 | *** join/#uphpu mgeary (~mgeary@166.70.44.49) |
| 16:51.39 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v mgeary] by ChanServ |
| 17:51.20 | Utah_Dave | ~facepalm |
| 17:51.21 | ibot | ACTION facepalms at the situation |
| 17:52.03 | Utah_Dave | I always forget the colon when using the alternative syntax for if statements |
| 17:59.34 | ninnypants | there have been a lot more quail out in provo lately |
| 18:18.53 | mgeary | anyone here ever gotten anything from audible.com ? |
| 18:27.03 | ninnypants | I hear they do a really good job. They have some podcast books that were really good |
| 18:27.53 | mgeary | i'm told they don't offer unprotected mp3s, that sound correct? |
| 18:30.13 | fungus | mgeary, I've been an audible member for years |
| 18:30.31 | fungus | No mp3's. all DRM'd stuff. |
| 18:31.14 | macnewbold | I have liked audible for the most part, but have still been trying to get the conversion to work to un-DRM my files. |
| 18:31.35 | macnewbold | it's fine if i'm listening on a supported device, |
| 18:31.56 | macnewbold | but otherwise, i have to burn to cd then re-import the burned cds as mp3s to be able to use them the way i really want. |
| 18:32.22 | fungus | macnewbold, how do you want to use them? |
| 18:33.18 | macnewbold | play them on generic mp3 players (like my phone) or on my desktop computer that doesn't run windows or macosx |
| 18:33.41 | macnewbold | the audible stuff comes into itunes now, which is kinda cool, but still limits it to win/mac pretty much |
| 18:33.55 | fungus | IIRC most mp3 players are supported, but Linux/BSD support would be nice. |
| 18:34.39 | fungus | And now androids are supported too. |
| 18:35.06 | macnewbold | nice |
| 18:35.08 | macnewbold | that's handy |
| 18:35.38 | macnewbold | my phone is the LG env2, and i use it by loading mp3s onto a microSD card that i put in the phone |
| 18:35.42 | fungus | But yeah, I agree. Audible is not perfect in that category, DRM is teh suck |
| 18:36.14 | macnewbold | yeah, i can hardly wait until the DRM folks get a clue that it isn't actually doing them much good |
| 18:36.33 | macnewbold | and that it just makes it more of a pain and makes people like their stuff less |
| 18:36.36 | josephscott | DRM for the win! |
| 18:36.45 | josephscott | sorry, that was the alternate universe josephscott |
| 18:36.49 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 18:36.56 | macnewbold | the one who doesn't believe in the GPL? |
| 18:36.57 | carmony | lol |
| 18:37.09 | josephscott | and has a goatee |
| 18:37.32 | ninnypants | bet the cd makers like drm |
| 18:37.49 | ninnypants | that way their product actually gets purchased |
| 18:38.07 | josephscott | transporter mishap during a storm is space, it happens |
| 18:38.31 | carmony | LOL |
| 18:38.38 | carmony | TS:TNG |
| 18:41.37 | macnewbold | ninnypants: i wouldn't be so sure... |
| 18:44.36 | ninnypants | macnewbold: heh. I ment blanks not the actual cds |
| 18:44.51 | ninnypants | though I guess there are apps that will remove drm |
| 19:00.18 | beandog | most DRM is cracked |
| 19:00.33 | beandog | thank goodness. |
| 19:04.09 | fungus | ~pirate beandog |
| 19:04.10 | ibot | ACTION illegally downloads beandog and shares beandog with all his friends |
| 19:04.15 | beandog | heh |
| 19:04.21 | beandog | I dont pirate stuff |
| 19:04.54 | fungus | beandog, ever ripped a DVD? |
| 19:05.10 | beandog | fungus, under the advice of my lawyer, I'm not going to answer that question |
| 19:05.21 | fungus | hehe. Pirate! |
| 19:05.24 | beandog | :) |
| 19:05.45 | beandog | Thats called exercising your fair use |
| 19:06.11 | herlo | ripping DVD's you own is fair use for sure |
| 19:06.39 | fungus | but it's still against the law |
| 19:07.04 | fungus | DMCA > Copyright |
| 19:07.06 | Heartsbane | quick question what is this months presentation |
| 19:07.41 | Heartsbane | Anyone? |
| 19:08.01 | fungus | presentation *was* using memcached w/ PHP |
| 19:09.15 | Heartsbane | ah I saw something come accross my reader that returned a 404 |
| 19:09.18 | beandog | ~shun fungus |
| 19:09.19 | ibot | You are dead to me, fungus. |
| 19:09.29 | beandog | don't harsh my mellow, man |
| 19:10.08 | fungus | Someone's got to pee in your cheerios. |
| 19:10.15 | fungus | it might as well be mee |
| 19:10.41 | herlo | fungus: DMCA is illegal |
| 19:10.50 | herlo | just hasn't been proven yet |
| 19:11.15 | beandog | doesnt' DMCA say something about only effective DRM |
| 19:11.16 | fungus | true. but until that day comes. beandog is still a pirate. |
| 19:11.20 | beandog | CSS is ineffective, so its okay :D |
| 19:11.30 | beandog | er effective encryption |
| 19:11.31 | beandog | or whatever. |
| 19:11.37 | herlo | fungus: actually no. It's not illegal to copy your own DVDs for your own use. |
| 19:11.46 | fungus | Yes it is. |
| 19:11.58 | fungus | DMCA restricts breaking *any* encryption |
| 19:12.07 | fungus | No matter if it's fair use or not |
| 19:12.07 | herlo | fungus: copying doesn't break encryption |
| 19:12.23 | fungus | ah. |
| 19:12.50 | fungus | But beandog doesn't just copy. He rips, decodes, re-encodes all the time. |
| 19:12.59 | herlo | maybe, you can't prove that |
| 19:13.00 | beandog | Actually I dont re-encode |
| 19:13.03 | fungus | He's an expert criminal |
| 19:13.05 | herlo | lol |
| 19:13.09 | beandog | I re-mux |
| 19:13.29 | beandog | I dont even need to do that ... I could just be copying them, including the CSS |
| 19:14.07 | beandog | Oh well. |
| 19:14.36 | beandog | I'm not a pirate in the sense that I don't share content |
| 19:16.27 | fungus | But that doesn't matter. You are still a pirate in terms of breaking the law |
| 19:17.01 | beandog | true |
| 19:19.31 | ninnypants | or that using the product can result in breaking the law |
| 19:21.34 | fungus | I see three choices: 1. Break the law anyway. 2. Suffer with limitations. 3. Don't participate in popular culture. |
| 19:22.21 | fungus | #1 produces the most happiness for me. |
| 19:22.32 | ninnypants | yeah it's just strange to me that watching content I paid for can be illegal |
| 19:22.35 | beandog | There is no legal alternative to ripping DVDs on Linux |
| 19:22.40 | beandog | nobody has licensed the code |
| 19:23.10 | beandog | Considering how broken it is, you'd think they'd stop using it anywya. |
| 19:23.14 | ninnypants | Is it really legal to rip on any other OS |
| 19:23.26 | fungus | beandog, ripping DVD can never be legal, because the act of ripping (decrypting) is illegal in itself. |
| 19:23.28 | beandog | ninnypants, well, there are products that have licenses for playback |
| 19:23.38 | beandog | fungus, mmm, Im not so sure about that |
| 19:23.55 | beandog | fungus, I would guess the license would cover decryption |
| 19:23.56 | fungus | beandog, yes it is. DMCA |
| 19:23.57 | beandog | not use |
| 19:23.59 | beandog | but who knows. |
| 19:24.25 | beandog | fungus, well my point is, there are products who have to have a license to decrypt it (DVD players, for one) |
| 19:24.34 | beandog | I could "rip" the DVDs using composite / component out |
| 19:24.38 | beandog | no DRM there |
| 19:25.04 | beandog | analog holes |
| 19:25.13 | fungus | ah, yes. the analog hole. |
| 19:25.30 | fungus | Too bad it's just a pain to exploit |
| 19:25.35 | beandog | Yahr. |
| 19:25.39 | beandog | Thats how I rip my VHS though |
| 19:26.11 | beandog | Anyway |
| 19:26.23 | beandog | If I ever get sued (which I doubt), Ill challenge it in court |
| 19:26.24 | fungus | I bought a VHS -> DVD dubbing deck and it's still painful. |
| 19:27.14 | beandog | I hate the DMCA though |
| 19:27.37 | *** join/#uphpu jtsnow_ (~chatzilla@VDSL-151-118-130-166.DNVR.QWEST.NET) |
| 19:27.39 | beandog | The *real* issue is people giving away copies that they shouldn't. So they make it illegal to make a copy, not to give it away |
| 19:27.49 | beandog | blergh. |
| 19:27.51 | ninnypants | yeah it just keeps media companies from having to make a *good* product |
| 19:27.53 | beandog | ~die hollywood |
| 19:27.54 | ibot | ACTION murders hollywood, takes two shots to the head then crumples to the ground, lifeless... |
| 19:28.16 | beandog | er, that is, make it illegal *also* |
| 19:28.25 | beandog | herlo, yarr |
| 19:28.34 | beandog | I actually get nervous sometimes blogging about ripping blurays |
| 19:28.47 | beandog | (which is getting easier, btw) |
| 19:28.52 | herlo | eh, you should be fine |
| 19:29.10 | beandog | herlo, yah, I should be .. but its still pretty new stuff |
| 19:29.14 | herlo | indeed |
| 19:29.44 | beandog | Im afraid fungus is gonna sell me out when he gets one of those FBI notices on his desk |
| 19:29.57 | beandog | :) |
| 19:29.57 | fungus | hehe, I don't get anymore now. |
| 19:30.53 | fungus | and for the record, I never gave any info out about users for illegal downloading |
| 19:31.11 | fungus | Only forwarded the notice to the user. |
| 19:31.14 | macnewbold | nice |
| 19:31.38 | fungus | I only complied with real criminals |
| 19:32.18 | ninnypants | like your KP incident |
| 19:32.48 | fungus | Actually the FBI never got involved in illegal downloading. That was all from MPAA/RIAA clearinghouse companies. |
| 19:33.55 | beandog | whats a clearinghouse company? |
| 19:34.43 | beandog | Well, AFAICT, the FBI only gets interested if its like a massive operation of piracy, like organized crime |
| 19:56.16 | TuxToaster | hola |
| 19:57.08 | TuxToaster | what do you guys use or suggest for referencing servers or other hosts between a development or production environment? |
| 19:58.25 | macnewbold | TuxToaster: what do you mean? like config files or something? |
| 20:04.15 | fungus | beandog, movie studios usually outsource the pirate catching and notification stuff to third parties. |
| 20:04.45 | fungus | These parties then aggregate info and send automated form letters to ISPs. |
| 20:05.03 | TuxToaster | sorry wasn't paying attention |
| 20:07.16 | TuxToaster | what I'm after is a way to specify which database server to use without having to change IPs in the code |
| 20:07.42 | TuxToaster | I can do some conditionals, such as checking what the server name that was requested is, and then figure out which DB server I need to hit based on that |
| 20:08.12 | TuxToaster | but wondering if anyone here has another method... such as a config file like you said, or some other method of configuring it |
| 20:09.28 | TuxToaster | like on one of our systems, we have a block that checks to see if the server name contains the subnet for our production environment, or if it is the FQDN that external users hit |
| 20:09.48 | TuxToaster | if so, then $database_host = the IP to our production MySQL box |
| 20:09.58 | TuxToaster | otherwise, it's = to our development box |
| 20:10.10 | *** join/#uphpu pelaofeliz1 (~ben@67.23.205.130) |
| 20:10.23 | TuxToaster | so then I can push up code from our dev environment to production and have it just work without having to change any IPs or anything |
| 20:10.45 | TuxToaster | another way I could do that would be a config file and then exclude that from the push |
| 20:46.28 | macnewbold | yeah, those seem to be the ways to do it |
| 20:46.33 | macnewbold | either a locally customized config file, |
| 20:46.40 | macnewbold | or an if condition to determine |
| 20:47.09 | macnewbold | i prefer having the files be the same everywhere, with a section in the config that uses `hostname` to check where i am, and set the settings accordingly |
| 21:05.13 | TuxToaster | do you check the output of the hostname command? |
| 21:05.19 | TuxToaster | or is there something in PHP to do that? |
| 21:06.06 | TuxToaster | the one problem I've run into was I was trying to use $_SERVER['SERVER_NAME'] I think it was, but I was getting 127.0.0.1 as apache is bound to all interfaces |
| 21:10.23 | TuxToaster | aha gethostname() |
| 21:14.41 | beandog | I dont like that one |
| 21:14.43 | beandog | I dont remember why |
| 21:14.45 | beandog | but I use uname |
| 21:14.56 | beandog | http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.php-uname.php |
| 21:15.13 | beandog | php_uname('n'); |
| 21:15.31 | *** join/#uphpu cro (~cro@166-70-222-105.ip.xmission.com) |
| 21:15.58 | macnewbold | i usually use trim(`hostname`). with shell execution |
| 21:16.15 | beandog | macnewbold, yah, i think thats evil |
| 21:16.25 | beandog | opening a shell just for a var |
| 21:16.41 | beandog | plus I think of all the possible things that could go wrong |
| 21:16.47 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:16.49 | TuxToaster | true |
| 21:16.51 | beandog | like someone changing hostname in their binary path |
| 21:16.59 | beandog | executes some random script .. |
| 21:17.16 | macnewbold | well if you don't trust your server, you've got bigger problems... |
| 21:17.26 | beandog | macnewbold, I trust my server, I don't trust code. |
| 21:17.41 | TuxToaster | macnewbold: if you have a shared hosting environment, you can't afford *not* to be at least a little paranoid |
| 21:18.36 | macnewbold | i just don't think someone replacing your hostname binary is a viable attack vector |
| 21:18.55 | macnewbold | granted, there are other ways, but i've found hostname to be consistent |
| 21:18.59 | macnewbold | ymmv |
| 21:19.06 | beandog | macnewbold, I think most targeted attacks use things we probably wouldn't expect |
| 21:19.28 | beandog | macnewbold, anyway |
| 21:19.29 | beandog | :) |
| 21:19.31 | beandog | whatever. |
| 21:19.32 | TuxToaster | heh |
| 21:19.50 | macnewbold | sure, that makes sense |
| 21:20.10 | beandog | Oh, gethostname is 5.3 |
| 21:20.13 | beandog | Well thar ya go. |
| 21:20.30 | beandog | I remember there was one that would just return the web servers SERVER var |
| 21:20.35 | beandog | Which wouldnt work if you were running CLI |
| 21:20.40 | beandog | I think that was the problem I must have run into ... |
| 21:20.42 | TuxToaster | right. |
| 21:20.56 | TuxToaster | beandog: so what are your thoughts on the database host thing? |
| 21:21.05 | beandog | TuxToaster, I didnt read it, sec |
| 21:21.47 | beandog | TuxToaster, well |
| 21:21.48 | TuxToaster | beandog: mostly just trying to find a clean way for the code to determine if it's running in my production env or my development env and knowing which DB host to point at |
| 21:22.03 | beandog | TuxToaster, I usually do an if statement. But an alternative would be to hardcode network addresses (eww) |
| 21:22.10 | beandog | server = mysql.subnet |
| 21:22.16 | beandog | or whatever. |
| 21:22.38 | beandog | but that implies that you *can* override local name resolution, which isn't always the case.. |
| 21:22.56 | beandog | Yah |
| 21:23.01 | beandog | I always just do an if statement |
| 21:23.05 | beandog | Or my DB is already on localhost |
| 21:23.16 | TuxToaster | well right now some of our code does if(server_name contains '172.x.x.x' || server_name is 'fqdn.domain.com') { $database_host = 'production IP' } else { $database_host = sandbox IP } |
| 21:23.35 | beandog | Ooh thats evil. |
| 21:23.41 | beandog | Always assume you're connecting to dev, not live. |
| 21:23.41 | TuxToaster | that's Lasso |
| 21:24.17 | beandog | TuxToaster, Theres a few things you can do to make the iffery simpler though |
| 21:24.28 | beandog | Like having it just in an include somewhere |
| 21:24.28 | TuxToaster | wait, that is always assuming your connecting to dev. |
| 21:24.41 | TuxToaster | or are you saying it should connect to live in { else } |
| 21:25.02 | beandog | I'm saying, by default, it should assume a connection to $devdb |
| 21:25.11 | beandog | Only connect to live if it passes all checks |
| 21:25.23 | beandog | One of those worst-case scenario things. |
| 21:25.30 | TuxToaster | that's more or less what that if code is doing |
| 21:25.30 | beandog | You'd rather break dev than live |
| 21:25.50 | beandog | Okay, I'm just waxing paranoid, its all good. |
| 21:25.50 | TuxToaster | it only uses the live IP if it's on the production subnet or using the live URL |
| 21:26.00 | TuxToaster | our dev subnet is completely separate network |
| 21:26.08 | beandog | Okies |
| 21:26.34 | beandog | Theres another simple way |
| 21:26.43 | beandog | You could resolve based off name address |
| 21:26.45 | beandog | make an array or something |
| 21:26.53 | beandog | dbconns['loclahost'] = array(); |
| 21:27.01 | beandog | dbconns['livesite.com'] = array() |
| 21:27.09 | TuxToaster | true |
| 21:27.14 | beandog | there's a couple of options, really |
| 21:27.24 | beandog | I can't think of any really enlightened solutions though |
| 21:27.29 | beandog | The simplest methods work fine |
| 21:29.36 | macnewbold | yeah, we use either the array method or a switch statement generally. |
| 21:30.01 | macnewbold | and i agree with default to dev |
| 21:30.09 | pelaofeliz1 | I'd recommend keeping your config separate from your code, though -- so production passwords, etc. aren't sitting next to dev ones |
| 21:34.54 | herlo | aw, come on, it's funner to pass the configs in code :) |
| 21:37.39 | TuxToaster | that's tempting also :-) |
| 21:37.55 | beandog | herlo, or get requests |
| 21:38.09 | herlo | :) that too |
| 21:38.21 | beandog | http://www.retailmenot.com/view/lagoonpark.com |
| 21:38.35 | beandog | Oh crap, wrong day. |
| 21:38.38 | beandog | no touchy! |
| 21:39.19 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 21:39.27 | herlo | beandog: lol |
| 21:39.37 | herlo | beandog: is that for this weekend's Lagoon Day? |
| 21:39.43 | beandog | yah |
| 21:39.45 | beandog | actually that might work |
| 21:40.52 | ninnypants | is the savings of $33 correct? |
| 21:40.57 | beandog | bah didnt work. |
| 21:41.03 | beandog | Oh well, I have discount thingies anyway |
| 21:41.18 | beandog | Which makes it the same price or less, I think |
| 21:41.23 | beandog | somewhere around $28-$30 |
| 21:41.33 | ninnypants | wow |
| 21:41.43 | ninnypants | what are ticket prices normally? |
| 21:41.49 | beandog | $43 |
| 21:42.15 | beandog | Oh here you go ... military personnel week |
| 21:42.32 | beandog | Show your military ID, get $15 off |
| 21:48.46 | herlo | beandog: so how are you getting your discount?? |
| 21:48.59 | beandog | herlo, discount passes |
| 21:49.02 | herlo | where? |
| 21:49.08 | beandog | deseret book |
| 21:49.12 | herlo | how much off? |
| 21:49.22 | beandog | about $14 |
| 21:49.27 | beandog | so it makes it ~$30 |
| 21:49.28 | herlo | that's good |
| 21:49.31 | herlo | yeah |
| 21:59.41 | beandog | http://www.howcast.com/videos/13877-How-To-Avoid-Getting-Sick-on-Amusement-Park-Rides |
| 21:59.56 | beandog | its making me sick just watching this thing |
| 22:05.08 | carmony | lol |
| 22:43.12 | *** join/#uphpu eggyknap (~jtolley@unaffiliated/eggyknap) |
| 22:43.12 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v eggyknap] by ChanServ |
| 22:46.38 | itimber | I'm out... later guys |
| 22:47.42 | *** join/#uphpu redroy (~Adium@c-174-52-217-149.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:46.52 | *** join/#uphpu nodnarb (~brandon@174-23-244-5.slkc.qwest.net) |