| 00:08.53 | beandog | I cant tell what this is doing. |
| 00:08.59 | beandog | Its deleting em, but not moving them to trash |
| 00:09.00 | beandog | I dont think. |
| 00:17.24 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_trSIBCgF0 |
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| 00:50.04 | influx | \o/ |
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| 00:59.50 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/user/ImprovEverywhere#p/u/89/lYJ9zOyzI4w |
| 00:59.52 | beandog | oh my horrible |
| 01:00.47 | beandog | thats awesome |
| 01:00.47 | beandog | :D |
| 01:00.59 | beandog | Ah .. youtube ... |
| 01:04.10 | supernovia | I super <3 improveverywhere :) |
| 01:04.15 | supernovia | ok. I'm gonna go. see ya guys! |
| 01:04.25 | influx | seeya |
| 01:14.30 | fungus | HI! |
| 01:14.39 | carmony | Hello |
| 01:14.46 | herlo | why are you guys typing |
| 01:14.48 | influx | Whoah. I'm on TV. |
| 01:14.51 | influx | HI MOM |
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| 01:30.39 | beandog | what timea re you guys going to applebees? |
| 01:30.43 | beandog | do you know |
| 01:32.24 | fungus | Nope, but you should be here |
| 01:33.06 | influx | yeah |
| 01:33.13 | influx | *peeeer pressuuuure* |
| 01:37.44 | beandog | I'm working |
| 01:37.46 | beandog | :( |
| 02:26.20 | beandog | http://boards.theforce.net/provo_ut/b10138/3763098/p1/ |
| 02:28.09 | influx | herlo: I was kind of trailing off there |
| 02:28.10 | influx | :O |
| 02:28.14 | beandog | we need one of those clubs |
| 02:28.19 | influx | :D |
| 02:28.43 | herlo | influx: I am sleepy so no biggie |
| 02:28.47 | influx | heh |
| 02:28.54 | influx | beandog: Lots of typos on that site. |
| 02:29.10 | influx | Star Trek is mis-spelled. |
| 02:31.09 | herlo | lol |
| 02:31.22 | herlo | how do you misspell Star Trek? |
| 02:31.40 | influx | You type Wars instead of Trek |
| 02:31.40 | fungus | Startrek is wrong |
| 02:31.55 | influx | fungus: wut |
| 02:32.12 | fungus | capitalization and the space matter |
| 02:32.22 | herlo | indeed |
| 02:32.38 | influx | Who spelled it Startrek? |
| 02:32.57 | fungus | I was just providing an example of a misspelling |
| 02:32.57 | influx | Oh. |
| 02:33.00 | influx | Right right. |
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| 14:22.20 | ninnypants | morning supernovia |
| 14:23.16 | supernovia | hey there ): |
| 14:23.18 | supernovia | er, :) |
| 14:23.25 | ninnypants | heh |
| 14:23.30 | supernovia | my fingers are a little dyslexic today I guess, lol |
| 14:23.53 | ninnypants | maybe they're not happy and wanted to let you know |
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| 14:36.27 | supernovia | hehe, my fingers are the happiest |
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| 14:39.28 | beandog | buenos |
| 14:39.54 | supernovia | hola beandog :) |
| 14:39.59 | beandog | que tal |
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| 14:45.24 | ninnypants | hey beandog |
| 14:45.31 | beandog | ninnypants, hows it going |
| 14:46.02 | supernovia | bien. I need a better word for that |
| 14:46.22 | supernovia | what's a good word for bien++ ? |
| 14:46.29 | ninnypants | good just talking to the people that adopted my shepard |
| 14:47.07 | herlo | supernovia: muy bien |
| 14:47.20 | supernovia | and muy bien++ ? |
| 14:47.27 | herlo | lol |
| 14:47.29 | herlo | sure |
| 14:50.26 | supernovia | alegre! |
| 14:50.41 | beandog | bless you |
| 14:50.45 | supernovia | lol |
| 14:53.08 | beandog | ninnypants, how many dogs do you have now? |
| 14:53.22 | ninnypants | just 4 |
| 14:53.56 | ninnypants | I have a spaniel that you can try out if you want |
| 14:54.47 | beandog | Im not sure Id do well with a spaniel |
| 14:55.12 | ninnypants | she's actually really mellow and doesn't really like to run |
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| 15:12.31 | DexterTheDragon | sounds like beandog |
| 15:12.42 | beandog | heh |
| 15:13.01 | beandog | thats true. |
| 15:13.16 | ninnypants | I'm sure she likes cookies too |
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| 15:20.08 | beandog | ninnypants, got piccies? |
| 15:20.24 | ninnypants | no but I'm taking her to the park today and can get some |
| 15:20.30 | beandog | okies |
| 15:21.17 | ninnypants | she'd do really good with you I think, and I'll just give her to you if you decide you want her |
| 15:22.17 | beandog | people are always throwing women at me |
| 15:22.51 | beandog | ninnypants, thats cool, send me some pics if you get a chance :) |
| 15:23.44 | ninnypants | will do I'll send some this afternoon |
| 15:28.14 | beandog | \o/ |
| 15:29.03 | ninnypants | man this boxer is dumb. H keeps banging his head into the glass trying to get to my lizard |
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| 15:32.10 | beandog | ninnypants, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDa5IO9ASoc |
| 15:33.31 | ninnypants | close but this dog will smash his face into fences until it bleeds to get to things |
| 15:33.56 | beandog | thats not good |
| 15:34.13 | beandog | We had a puppy once I swear he was retarded |
| 15:34.15 | ninnypants | yeah luckly they're just little scrapes |
| 15:34.20 | beandog | He would walk right into the fence |
| 15:34.28 | beandog | alllllll the time |
| 15:34.41 | beandog | poor guy |
| 15:34.43 | beandog | he was the runt |
| 15:34.48 | beandog | we didnt think he would even live |
| 15:34.53 | beandog | IIRC |
| 15:35.42 | ninnypants | yeah you have to wonder with some dogs |
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| 15:36.15 | ninnypants | though the retarded ones are usually the happiest ones |
| 15:37.28 | beandog | Yah |
| 15:37.30 | beandog | He was a happy dog |
| 15:37.32 | beandog | No mistaking that. |
| 15:38.10 | ninnypants | yeah I had a giant rotwheiler that I could swear was retarded but he was always happy and bouncy |
| 15:39.00 | macnewbold | thanks y'all for coming to the meeting and/or after party last night - it was a lot of fun |
| 15:40.02 | macnewbold | influx: ssh for windows - the one I use is called putty, but you can also get "real" ssh by using Cygwin |
| 15:41.03 | beandog | cygwin++ |
| 15:44.01 | carmony | macnewbold: anytime |
| 15:44.20 | carmony | though my wife says we should leave our comfort zone and go to other places to eat :P |
| 15:44.25 | ninnypants | macnewbold: yeah it was good had a lot of fun |
| 15:46.44 | ninnypants | I want some hydrating pizza http://www.bugcomic.com/comics/pizza-problems/ |
| 15:51.45 | beandog | carmony, does your wife even come? |
| 15:52.01 | carmony | hahaha, no :P |
| 15:52.16 | beandog | I was gonna invite everyone over last night to watch Napoleon Dynamite |
| 15:52.47 | beandog | but I forgot |
| 15:53.38 | ninnypants | that's ok I didn't get home until 1am anyway |
| 15:53.38 | supernovia | it's never too late, beandog :) |
| 15:53.46 | supernovia | did ya'll stay out and chat late? |
| 15:54.11 | macnewbold | i think it was 11:30pm when we all pulled out of the parking garage... |
| 15:54.28 | ninnypants | yeah and I went to infulx's place for a bit; then dumpseter dived on the way home |
| 15:54.41 | beandog | ninnypants, did you find anything |
| 15:54.58 | ninnypants | got a crate and some food |
| 15:54.59 | carmony | yeah, I got home in 30 minutes :P |
| 15:55.12 | beandog | a crate? |
| 15:55.36 | ninnypants | yeah a small plastic pet crate |
| 15:55.41 | beandog | oh, gotcha. |
| 15:56.22 | wps | score! |
| 15:56.30 | wps | I just got an awesome deal on a new tv |
| 15:56.37 | ninnypants | it didn't have a door though |
| 15:56.40 | wps | $350 off |
| 15:56.45 | beandog | wps, whatd you get |
| 15:56.59 | beandog | A nice new Sorny? |
| 15:57.07 | beandog | or a Pamasonic |
| 15:57.15 | wps | 40" 1080p 120 Hz Samsung |
| 15:57.32 | wps | I did get a Sony too |
| 15:57.40 | wps | but it was the Samsung that I got the crazy deal on |
| 15:57.41 | beandog | 1080p is good. That'll keep your eyeballs dancing in the aisles |
| 15:57.50 | wps | I got the two new TVs for the new house |
| 15:57.56 | beandog | nice |
| 15:58.08 | wps | the Sony is 46" 1080p 120Hz |
| 15:58.15 | beandog | are they LCDs? |
| 15:58.17 | wps | yeah |
| 15:58.30 | wps | and I got brackets from monoprice.com for $15 each! |
| 15:58.45 | beandog | monoprice is da bomb |
| 15:59.19 | wps | and get thisâ¦Â most tile brackets (from the research I have done) tilt 15 degrees and have 4" from the back of the TV to the wall |
| 15:59.40 | wps | I found one that's only 10 degrees tile, but it's 1.8" inches from the back of the tv to the wall |
| 15:59.56 | wps | I'm more than happy to sacrifice the five degrees to get it that much closer to the wall |
| 16:00.36 | beandog | heh |
| 16:00.40 | beandog | my TV is like 2 feet from the wall |
| 16:00.46 | wps | 2 feet??? |
| 16:00.58 | beandog | rear projection |
| 16:01.01 | beandog | aint no way Im mounting that thing. |
| 16:01.02 | wps | ah :) |
| 16:01.24 | beandog | I'd be afraid it'd fall on my head in my sleep or something |
| 16:01.50 | wps | I don't watch much tv, but I'm excited to have them up on the wall and not taking up any floor space or where the kids can reach them |
| 16:02.03 | wps | my kids currently leave dirty handprints all over our tv |
| 16:02.17 | beandog | Oh yah ... that makes good sense. |
| 16:02.43 | beandog | next tv I get is gonna be a projector |
| 16:03.00 | wps | that's what I'd like to do in my basement I think |
| 16:03.14 | mgeary | ditto |
| 16:03.33 | wps | the press kills me |
| 16:03.47 | wps | they are already critiquing apple on their press conference today and it hasn't even happened yet |
| 16:04.01 | wps | critiquing them on what they are guessing they'll say |
| 16:04.01 | beandog | that's b/c anything apple = traffic |
| 16:04.03 | wps | sheeesh |
| 16:06.45 | mgeary | ~stevejobsify the Press |
| 16:06.46 | ibot | ACTION drags the Press by the scruff on the neck and plants him front row center of an Apple presentation at the peak of Steve Jobs' keynote address, until the Press's eyes glaze over and he calms down (and starts wearing turtlenecks) |
| 16:07.06 | beandog | heh |
| 16:07.19 | beandog | that never gets old |
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| 16:47.07 | beandog | Oh look |
| 16:47.14 | beandog | Someone posted something new and fascinating on the mailing list |
| 16:47.51 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> UPHPU Lagoon trip: Pioneer Day, 24 July |
| 16:48.31 | beandog | thanks wps |
| 16:48.38 | DexterTheDragon | beandog using the mailing list. thats unheard of |
| 16:48.45 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, srsly. |
| 16:49.39 | ninnypants | http://awkwardstockphotos.com/ |
| 16:50.15 | beandog | is that a bacon necklace? |
| 16:50.36 | beandog | LOL, is that kid supposed to be getting run over? |
| 16:50.56 | ninnypants | yes to both |
| 16:51.37 | DexterTheDragon | well atleast he's happy about it |
| 16:51.51 | beandog | it's always important to keep a positive attitude |
| 16:52.40 | ninnypants | DexterTheDragon: I would say he's ecstatic about it |
| 16:53.10 | beandog | I would link to some of these, but the fact is the are *all* weird / creepy |
| 16:53.34 | beandog | beware crazy skin conditions |
| 16:53.35 | beandog | just saying. |
| 16:54.30 | beandog | ewwwwwww |
| 16:57.06 | beandog | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/funny-pictures-cat-will-not-play-apology-game.jpg |
| 16:57.36 | beandog | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/funny-pictures-kitten-and-luck-dragon.jpg |
| 16:57.37 | beandog | lol |
| 16:58.10 | ninnypants | off to the dog park |
| 16:58.29 | ninnypants | beandog: I'll try to get you some better pictures of nala |
| 16:58.34 | beandog | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/funny-pictures-cat-fell-for-boobie-trap.jpg |
| 16:58.40 | beandog | lol, that is *horribly* bad / funny |
| 16:58.45 | beandog | ninnypants, awesome thx |
| 16:59.40 | carmony | I just got asked... to apply for a ..... .NET job :P |
| 17:00.27 | fungus | How insulting. |
| 17:00.54 | carmony | the sad thing is it pays very well with awesome benefits, since the company is owned by the UoU |
| 17:01.19 | beandog | carmony, the solution is simple |
| 17:02.02 | mgeary | take the job and outsource your work to India? |
| 17:02.18 | mgeary | ~wally carmony |
| 17:02.33 | carmony | lol |
| 17:02.33 | beandog | AddHandler php5-script .net |
| 17:02.34 | beandog | all done |
| 17:02.47 | carmony | rpfl |
| 17:02.49 | carmony | rofl |
| 17:02.54 | carmony | that'd be .aspx |
| 17:02.55 | carmony | but yeah |
| 17:09.01 | mgeary | hey, anyone here use Skype enough to know if you can share your screen with all people on a conference call? |
| 17:09.12 | mgeary | i don't have enough Skype friends to test it |
| 17:09.19 | carmony | nope |
| 17:09.23 | carmony | only 1 to 1 |
| 17:12.48 | cro | dimdim.com works, but it's a little slow. It's crossplatform though |
| 17:13.32 | mgeary | ok, thanks |
| 17:14.02 | cro | the "share this webpage" doesn't work for secured sites or sites that use cookies to track sessions (at least it didn't when I last tried it 6 months or so ago). Have to do a full screenshare in that case. |
| 17:21.21 | wps | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/07/iphone-reception-pc-0894-rm-eng.jpg |
| 17:21.43 | wps | I believe thatâ¦Â while the issue is real, I think that the media has blown it way out of proportion |
| 17:21.48 | beandog | wps, thats because their calls dont get thru :) |
| 17:21.54 | wps | ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha |
| 17:22.13 | beandog | wps, oh come on man ... its the media ... and *apple* |
| 17:22.16 | beandog | it's the golden goose of media |
| 17:22.48 | beandog | wps, had to expect it |
| 17:25.58 | beandog | however |
| 17:26.09 | beandog | it seems a little odd to me that the only metric theyd use would be support phone calls |
| 17:26.24 | wps | that's not the only metric |
| 17:26.29 | wps | are you following the press conference? |
| 17:26.32 | beandog | no |
| 17:26.34 | wps | http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/live-from-apples-iphone-4-press-conference/ |
| 17:27.17 | beandog | intresting. |
| 17:28.08 | Utah_Dave | I have several family members and friends with an iPhone 4. They've noticed the problem on occasion, but they love their phones. |
| 17:28.15 | Utah_Dave | It doesn't keep them from being able to use it. |
| 17:29.26 | fungus | I personally have a hard time reproducing the problem in most areas |
| 17:29.27 | wps | in the press conference they demonstrated the exact same thing happening on many other smartphones |
| 17:30.41 | fungus | woot, I get a free case. |
| 17:30.42 | wps | wow, apple is going to give away free cases |
| 17:31.51 | macnewbold | wps: "exact same thing happening on many other smartphones" - are there any others where you can bridge the two antennae like the iphone 4? or are they just showing that how you hold it affects the signal? |
| 17:31.58 | mgeary | i have GOT to get me an anechoic chamber |
| 17:32.10 | fungus | macnewbold, it's how you hold it |
| 17:32.26 | fungus | The antenna bridge is only a fraction of the problem. |
| 17:33.57 | fungus | Blame the cell phone = brain cancer believers for this industry problem |
| 17:34.28 | fungus | Most cell phones have antennas at the bottom of the phone for that reason. So we get problems when holding phones. |
| 17:35.37 | beandog | actually what I really want is *no* cell phone. |
| 17:35.56 | stderr | http://www.antennasys.com/antennasys-blog/ |
| 17:36.19 | orsonj | so, a nice pda then? |
| 17:37.22 | beandog | orsonj, yah, actually |
| 17:37.29 | beandog | that wouldnt be bad. |
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| 18:03.54 | stderr | this voicemail is now diamonds! |
| 18:04.49 | beandog | I guess it kinda begs the question ... if the antenna issues aren't a big deal, why are they holding a conference addressing just that? |
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| 18:27.52 | nodnarb | If I can bring my crew (wife + kid, I'm in) |
| 18:32.44 | fungus | beandog, the press conference is to tell the press that they are retards and blowing this way out of proportion |
| 18:33.10 | beandog | fungus, makes sense |
| 18:33.46 | nodnarb | I missed it what's up with the press? |
| 18:34.08 | fungus | Apple held a press conference about the iPhone 4 "antenna issues" |
| 18:34.29 | nodnarb | yeah, the iPhone 6 is gonna rock |
| 18:34.49 | nodnarb | maybe 7 to play on Windows 7 branding |
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| 18:44.19 | beandog | heh |
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| 19:29.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Hello. |
| 19:29.56 | mgeary | hey Lone_Wanderer |
| 19:29.58 | mgeary | how ya been? |
| 19:30.07 | Lone_Wanderer | at Dugway |
| 19:30.24 | mgeary | "ah, cool!" |
| 19:30.44 | Lone_Wanderer | i.e. hot, dehydrated, and covered in radioactive, weaponized-chemical and infected dust. |
| 19:30.53 | Lone_Wanderer | On the plus side I've got a killer tan. |
| 19:31.02 | Lone_Wanderer | Killer. Heh. I didn't even do that one on purpose. |
| 19:31.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Downside: I've nearly forgotten everything I ever knew about OOP in PHP. How have you been? |
| 19:31.38 | mgeary | just ducky |
| 19:31.46 | Lone_Wanderer | good to hear :) |
| 19:31.47 | mgeary | not downwind, as far as i know |
| 19:31.56 | Lone_Wanderer | downwind of? |
| 19:32.22 | mgeary | Dugway |
| 19:32.24 | mgeary | ;) |
| 19:32.27 | Lone_Wanderer | oh, fun fact of the day - the valley that Dugway is in? Its name is Skull Valley. Seriously. |
| 19:32.29 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh |
| 19:32.43 | mgeary | i actually knew that, about Skull Valley |
| 19:32.51 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 19:32.59 | mgeary | though i can't say i've ever been. Except for as close as you get on Highway 80 out to Reno |
| 19:33.09 | mgeary | which probably isn't very close |
| 19:33.33 | Lone_Wanderer | I hope it's not :) |
| 19:33.42 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh, they're putting nuclear waste out there too. |
| 19:33.47 | mgeary | so are you a free man for a while now? |
| 19:33.55 | *** join/#uphpu Brandon (~brandon@174-23-183-161.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 19:34.19 | Lone_Wanderer | a brief while yes |
| 19:34.39 | beandog | I didnt know Utah was storing nuclear waste |
| 19:34.55 | beandog | that sucks. |
| 19:35.07 | mgeary | yeah, that's the whole Energy Solutions deal |
| 19:35.09 | beandog | I guess Ill move to Nevada, where there's no nuclear anything |
| 19:35.13 | Lone_Wanderer | well... it's so far from anyone that even if it spills, it's not likely to endanger anyone |
| 19:35.14 | mgeary | haven't you heard the radio ads lately? |
| 19:35.21 | beandog | mgeary, I dont listen to the radio |
| 19:35.25 | beandog | or watch TV |
| 19:35.28 | Lone_Wanderer | except the mutants and the UFOs |
| 19:36.05 | beandog | If people are fleeing, I imagine I should probably check something. |
| 19:36.50 | beandog | mgeary, why? |
| 19:37.13 | beandog | it's Italian? |
| 19:37.20 | mgeary | oh, there's some campaign by Energy Solutions to have people come and take the tour, so you can drink their Kool-Aid and see what a great thing they're doing |
| 19:37.33 | Lone_Wanderer | "Energy Solutions" |
| 19:37.35 | Lone_Wanderer | Such a happy name. |
| 19:37.52 | beandog | Wow, youve gotta be kidding me |
| 19:39.24 | Lone_Wanderer | so, completely off topic |
| 19:39.24 | Brandon | now I'm lost - I thought energy sol was the new Delta Center |
| 19:39.45 | Lone_Wanderer | does anyone know what a "good" rate on a CD is? |
| 19:39.56 | mgeary | how long? |
| 19:40.03 | Lone_Wanderer | 12 months |
| 19:40.06 | Lone_Wanderer | 1k |
| 19:40.44 | mgeary | well, i got what i think is an awesome rate on a Zion's Bank 5-year bond. I'm getting over 8 percent. Most CDs, especially for only 1 year are probably less than 2 or 3 percent |
| 19:41.02 | Lone_Wanderer | nice, is it FDIC insured? |
| 19:41.06 | mgeary | no |
| 19:41.29 | mgeary | but if Zion's goes under, i've got other worries as well |
| 19:41.33 | Lone_Wanderer | that's true |
| 19:41.49 | Brandon | CORRECTION - 1k for 1 yrs = < 1% interest |
| 19:42.05 | mgeary | 1% == less than 2 or 3 percent ;) |
| 19:42.19 | Brandon | excellent point |
| 19:42.26 | Brandon | CORRECTION RECALLED |
| 19:42.58 | Lone_Wanderer | okay what the crap is a "CD IRA"? I thought those two things were separate? |
| 19:43.38 | mgeary | dunno. there's so dang many financial instruments out there it's impossible to keep up |
| 19:44.12 | Brandon | if you don't keep up - you will never be able to retire |
| 19:44.57 | macnewbold | "good rate" better at least be greater than inflation... |
| 19:46.28 | mgeary | i'm not going to base my ability to retire on the stock market |
| 19:47.36 | mgeary | i just plan on having rich doting kids |
| 19:49.44 | Lone_Wanderer | I could have sworn that USAA was offering 1.3% CDs |
| 19:50.31 | Lone_Wanderer | but now I can't find it on their website. maybe I should try actually calling them, on my "tele-phone machine" which I have recently purchased. |
| 19:50.59 | Lone_Wanderer | I understand that the younger generation is fascinated with them but I think they're just a fad. |
| 19:51.16 | mgeary | Lone_Wanderer: Zions is currently selling 1-month term FDIC insured CDs at 1.54% |
| 19:51.49 | mgeary | National Bank of Arizona has 1-year CDs for 2.14% |
| 19:52.00 | Lone_Wanderer | How are you finding this information? |
| 19:52.11 | mgeary | https://www.auctions.zionsdirect.com/ |
| 19:52.32 | Lone_Wanderer | also why is Zions Bank's website using the Sun logo? |
| 19:53.02 | Lone_Wanderer | nice! |
| 19:53.33 | beandog | where? |
| 19:53.48 | Lone_Wanderer | https://www.zionsbank.com/ |
| 19:54.08 | beandog | LOL |
| 19:54.09 | beandog | fail. |
| 19:54.30 | Lone_Wanderer | So, with this auction site, mgeary - do I just create an account and buy things from them? Or what? |
| 19:54.32 | Lone_Wanderer | How does it work? |
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| 20:04.49 | nodnarb | if you are only making 1.3% on your money you are losing money every year because inflation is is a much higher % annual |
| 20:06.05 | nodnarb | Capiche? |
| 20:06.26 | herlo | nodnarb: hi there... |
| 20:06.38 | nodnarb | hola |
| 20:06.48 | herlo | glad to see you here on the internetz |
| 20:07.06 | herlo | it was nice meeting you last night... :) |
| 20:07.20 | nodnarb | I was always here - just not mIRCing |
| 20:07.39 | nodnarb | yes, very cool to meet all of you... now remind me which one of my new friends you are? |
| 20:08.11 | herlo | the one with the corduroy hat and the new baby |
| 20:08.26 | herlo | s/hat/fedora/ |
| 20:08.29 | nodnarb | that doesn't narrow it down much :) |
| 20:08.35 | nodnarb | jk |
| 20:08.46 | nodnarb | so I'm taking the rest of the day off - u workin? |
| 20:08.50 | herlo | yeah |
| 20:09.09 | herlo | I'll be here until about 7 though, came in late due to Dr's appt and visiting the little one |
| 20:09.33 | herlo | nodnarb: well, enjoy the weekend... |
| 20:09.45 | nodnarb | cool - I won't start hitting you with requests . knowledge until after 5pm |
| 20:10.21 | nodnarb | oh yeah - you too - see if they will give you Monday off and kick it with the new hommie |
| 20:10.47 | nodnarb | long weekends do kick @ss |
| 20:12.02 | beandog | herlo, hows he doing? |
| 20:12.26 | herlo | beandog: really well |
| 20:12.32 | beandog | herlo, good, good |
| 20:12.48 | herlo | nodnarb: well, he won't behome that soon |
| 20:12.56 | herlo | beandog: he's almost 4lbs!! |
| 20:13.13 | herlo | only 1/2 oz to go. That's like a pound in 2.5 weeks |
| 20:13.18 | beandog | herlo, is that good? I have no idea.. |
| 20:13.30 | herlo | yeah, really good for such a small body to grow that much |
| 20:13.36 | beandog | oh okay, gotcha |
| 20:13.37 | beandog | :) |
| 20:13.41 | herlo | he would normally do that in the womb, but he decided to be out and grow :) |
| 20:13.58 | beandog | maybe he just wanted to step out for some fresh air |
| 20:14.14 | herlo | momma is doing good too, even if she was a little tipsy last night :) |
| 20:14.22 | beandog | heh |
| 20:14.29 | herlo | beandog: yeah, but the air in the NICU ain't too fresh :/ |
| 20:14.41 | herlo | but he's getting close to coming home and breathing our air... |
| 20:14.47 | beandog | :) |
| 20:14.47 | cro | herlo: NICU @ PCMC? |
| 20:14.52 | herlo | we're prepping the house this weekend and such... |
| 20:14.54 | herlo | cro: no, at IMC |
| 20:15.13 | cro | ah, good. Long drive for you to visit. |
| 20:15.29 | herlo | PCMC is 15 minutes, so not bad, but IMC is 3 minutes |
| 20:15.52 | Utah_Dave | We'll keep him and your family in our prayers, herlo! |
| 20:16.27 | herlo | :) |
| 20:16.45 | herlo | we're doing well, much appreciated! |
| 20:16.46 | beandog | herlo, yah, keep us updated plz |
| 20:17.07 | herlo | beandog: when I get more pics, for sure :) |
| 20:22.34 | mgeary | Lone_Wanderer: sorry, back now |
| 20:23.31 | mgeary | so, you need to open a free account and do a bit of paperwork. It's easiest if you stop by a bank branch and do it. I'm not saying it's the best way to buy securities, and i'm not very experienced, but i am happy with the one purchase i've made there |
| 20:25.38 | fungus | http://www.bankrate.com/cd.aspx |
| 20:26.21 | mgeary | i'm not very excited about CDs. I think there are better prospects in municipal and business bonds |
| 20:26.31 | mgeary | fwiw |
| 20:26.36 | mgeary | (which isn't very much) |
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| 20:38.10 | DexterTheDragon | ~seen mindjuju |
| 20:38.12 | ibot | mindjuju <~mindjuju@c-174-52-140-19.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 1d 16h 7m 16s ago, saying: 'my dogs are barking'. |
| 20:39.02 | beandog | I wonder if they ate him |
| 20:40.02 | ninnypants | http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/b2299684-5d20-4743-97c3-3ffe448be485.jpg |
| 20:40.26 | beandog | heh |
| 21:10.54 | mgeary | calling Cake-ers |
| 21:11.14 | beandog | mgeary, I though you were a python shop? |
| 21:11.28 | mgeary | we do python + php, but we haven't done Cake |
| 21:11.33 | beandog | Oh okies. |
| 21:11.43 | mgeary | we have our own django-esque set of PHP classes instead |
| 21:11.48 | mgeary | but we've inherited a Cake project |
| 21:11.56 | mgeary | and we've got a guy starting on Monday who has Cake experience |
| 21:12.02 | mgeary | but i'm trying to ramp up a bit and get a few things done |
| 21:13.17 | mgeary | anyways, i'm trying to reconcile the difference that the same code and DB are producing across my local machine and a staging machine. One key difference is that the stage machine is running PHP5.3 (ick), and my machine is 5.2.x... |
| 21:14.02 | mgeary | if i've got a url: /foo/bar, then i should be looking at /app/controllers/foo_controller.php and identify the function bar(), isn't that correct? |
| 21:24.04 | DexterTheDragon | mgeary: usually yes |
| 21:24.17 | DexterTheDragon | although routes could define something different |
| 21:24.35 | Lone_Wanderer | ninnypants!!! |
| 21:24.57 | Lone_Wanderer | zomg, that must be the best IRC nick I've seen in at least a year and a half. |
| 21:25.08 | ninnypants | heh |
| 21:25.49 | Lone_Wanderer | I just wrote what I consider to be one of my finest sarcastic emails ever. |
| 21:25.51 | mgeary | DexterTheDragon: looking at routes.php, not seeing anything likely to influence this. The deal i'm hitting is that i've put "die('foo')" in the foo function and hit the URL and nothing is changing |
| 21:26.23 | DexterTheDragon | mgeary: is there caching? |
| 21:26.28 | mgeary | that's what i thought too |
| 21:26.38 | mgeary | but i looked in app/tmp/cache and didn't see anything likely |
| 21:26.45 | mgeary | should i look elsewhere? |
| 21:28.47 | DexterTheDragon | nah that usually where it is |
| 21:31.19 | mgeary | glory be. it appears that i have indeed managed to downgrade PHP from 5.3 to 5.2 |
| 21:31.28 | beandog | UGH |
| 21:31.34 | beandog | Rocky Mountain Power is forcing me to go paperless billing |
| 21:31.34 | mgeary | rejoice |
| 21:31.34 | mgeary | ~rejoice |
| 21:31.35 | ibot | No, damit!!! |
| 21:31.39 | beandog | I *hate* paperless billing |
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| 21:31.51 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: like you hate trees? |
| 21:31.53 | mgeary | ~force beandog |
| 21:31.54 | beandog | The websites NEVER show the level of detail a printed one does. |
| 21:32.07 | mgeary | beandog: Amex does, Provo city's does |
| 21:32.07 | beandog | So you have no idea how much you're getting ripped off. |
| 21:32.24 | mgeary | provo city shows a PDF version of the exact same doc you get in the mail |
| 21:33.09 | ninnypants | I need to switch my provo city to paperless |
| 21:33.41 | mgeary | i'm getting both for some reason |
| 21:33.42 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: when I log into rocky mountain I see a pdf of the bill that used to get mailed to me |
| 21:34.03 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, well, I mean, in general |
| 21:34.08 | beandog | credit cards are the worst. |
| 21:34.22 | beandog | go paperless! you'll never see the fees! |
| 21:34.26 | beandog | whee! |
| 21:34.41 | ninnypants | mgeary: I get the email and usually pay mine before I even get the paper bill |
| 21:35.10 | beandog | Im turning into a cranky old man |
| 21:35.28 | Lone_Wanderer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=094svQoBpmw |
| 21:35.29 | beandog | that hates new technology |
| 21:35.36 | Lone_Wanderer | beandog: welcome to the club :) |
| 21:35.54 | beandog | Ill make up for it, and buy an 80" TV on the way home. |
| 21:36.01 | Lone_Wanderer | "But I thought you said you were a programmer?" "I am. But I'm also a luddite." |
| 21:36.02 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: new-fangled technology? |
| 21:36.08 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, shush |
| 21:38.05 | mgeary | ahhhh. my stage code works as expected in PHP5.2 |
| 21:38.14 | mgeary | glory be |
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| 21:58.32 | mgeary | anyone here know a .NET shop i can refer a no-longer-potential customer to? |
| 21:59.42 | Lone_Wanderer | I do not, I'm sorry. |
| 22:00.38 | Lone_Wanderer | However, I did just find out that the military offers a savings account that pays 10% interest |
| 22:00.45 | Lone_Wanderer | it's only compounded quarterly, but still. that's not bad. |
| 22:01.44 | Lone_Wanderer | only available to servicemembers while on deployment |
| 22:02.43 | mgeary | that's fantastic |
| 22:02.46 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 22:26.09 | blendmaster1024 | wait ... beandog is one of us utahns!? |
| 22:26.23 | blendmaster1024 | I suddenly feel stalked. |
| 22:26.35 | influx | sure is |
| 22:26.38 | blendmaster1024 | i've talked to him in at least 5 different channels today ... |
| 22:26.42 | influx | he done showed up last night to applebees |
| 22:26.47 | blendmaster1024 | none of which are at all related .. |
| 22:30.26 | mgeary | blendmaster1024: ooh, let us guess |
| 22:30.34 | mgeary | #gunsforhire ? |
| 22:30.47 | mgeary | #ilovelucy ? |
| 22:31.04 | DexterTheDragon | #cookiesanonymous |
| 22:31.35 | mgeary | #i<3ladygaga |
| 22:32.26 | blendmaster1024 | mgeary, #ubuntu-offtopic and #ffmpeg and #mplayer and i'm pretty sure others |
| 22:32.41 | mgeary | ~disappoint mgeary |
| 22:32.54 | blendmaster1024 | wait, was he in #ubuntu-offtopic? /me searches log ... nope |
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| 22:55.40 | influx | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-7mQhSZRgM&feature=player_embedded |
| 22:55.44 | influx | 10 |
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