| 00:00.23 | influx | hah |
| 00:04.23 | mgeary | grr. i just want to bite something |
| 00:04.30 | mgeary | i'm so ticked off |
| 00:10.43 | itimber | mgeary |
| 00:10.47 | mgeary | ? |
| 00:10.50 | itimber | I've heard good things about stackable |
| 00:10.55 | itimber | not sure if it fits your needs |
| 00:11.01 | itimber | but I have an invite, I think |
| 00:11.08 | itimber | you want it? |
| 00:11.20 | itimber | it's w/ XMission |
| 00:11.25 | mgeary | not sure |
| 00:11.30 | mgeary | maybe |
| 00:12.17 | itimber | http://transmission.xmission.com/2010/02/23/introducing-stackable-xmissions-hosting-service-for-developers |
| 00:12.27 | itimber | not sure if you even need the invite nowdays |
| 00:12.32 | itimber | got it many months back |
| 00:13.07 | itimber | I'm out... you have my email? |
| 00:13.37 | itimber | you should... we've chatted occasionally over the years |
| 00:13.44 | mgeary | yep |
| 00:14.00 | itimber | k, email me if you find you need an invite, and I'll try to dig mine up |
| 00:14.03 | itimber | later guys |
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| 00:32.09 | macnewbold | mgeary: stackable is cool, but it is different than rackspace - stackable provides a LAMP (or soon python or ruby) stack environment, but you don't have root in it. they provide instant scaling of resources, and built-in loadbalancing |
| 00:33.07 | macnewbold | so if you need root, might not be your best fit |
| 00:33.36 | macnewbold | but the practically unlimited disk space, bandwidth, separate free db server resources, etc. is nice - they bill by the RAM usage |
| 00:33.52 | macnewbold | plus being billed by the day when you upgrade/downgrade is super nice |
| 00:40.20 | supernovia | indeed |
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| 01:06.44 | beandog | herlo: puppet? |
| 01:06.50 | macnewbold | well all, looks like Utah_Dave has sick little ones and won't be able to come to tomorrow's meeting |
| 01:07.01 | macnewbold | so there's a presentation opportunity for soemone who is interested |
| 01:07.54 | macnewbold | We're pretty flexible on topics too - i'd personally like to learn more about MVC/frameworks, leveraging libraries like jquery, graphing libraries, etc. that make our jobs easier or give us better/faster results |
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| 04:26.49 | mgeary | oy |
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| 12:58.59 | macnewbold | morning all |
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| 14:43.08 | ninnypants | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/07/14/old-spice-guy-has-so.html |
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| 14:43.45 | ninnypants | hey supernovia |
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| 14:48.20 | beandog | well |
| 14:48.23 | beandog | I guess I better head to work |
| 14:48.26 | beandog | They are probably expecting me. |
| 14:48.52 | SunSparc | Don't forget your office key. |
| 14:49.33 | ninnypants | just take paperclips |
| 14:50.13 | beandog | heh |
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| 15:31.30 | supernovia | hey guys. What's UPHPU about tonight? |
| 15:34.10 | SunSparc | It's about reading your email so that you know what the meetings are about. |
| 15:34.15 | SunSparc | ;) |
| 15:35.06 | SunSparc | I say that in the lightest of moods. :) |
| 15:35.55 | ninnypants | adobe guy bailed again |
| 15:36.28 | SunSparc | Perhaps "Justin Carmony will also be continuing his highly successful series of PHP Phundamentals". |
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| 15:47.16 | SunSparc | Hey brasto, long time no see. |
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| 16:02.54 | supernovia | hey brasto :) |
| 16:16.34 | jamund | PHP guys. Is there an easier way to create a range with the keys = value than this ? $temperature = array_combine(range(1,100),range(1,100)); |
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| 16:53.34 | carmony | jamund: Not that I can think od |
| 16:53.35 | carmony | of |
| 16:54.55 | beandog | How do you guys do revision control with multiple authors when there's only one copy of the site running? |
| 16:56.58 | mgeary | beandog: how do you mean? no staging site? |
| 16:57.26 | beandog | mgeary, yah, that's the copy |
| 16:57.56 | mgeary | so what are the authors doign? |
| 16:57.57 | mgeary | doign |
| 16:57.59 | mgeary | bah |
| 16:58.15 | beandog | mgeary, well theres a copy of the code shared over the network |
| 16:58.23 | beandog | Right now, theyre not doing any revision control. |
| 16:58.38 | beandog | So they all edit the same code and just push it live when theyre happy with it. |
| 16:59.16 | mgeary | and user A may still have something in-progress when user B pushes live? |
| 16:59.28 | beandog | mgeary, well, there are all kinds of possible scenarios. |
| 16:59.30 | beandog | but yah |
| 16:59.32 | beandog | that's one |
| 17:00.03 | mgeary | sounds messy. Are the sections each author 'owns' clearly defined? can you limit the push-live to just those sections? |
| 17:00.28 | beandog | mgeary, no |
| 17:00.37 | beandog | its just a hodge podge of whoever needs to edit it, and gets to it first, does |
| 17:00.44 | mgeary | then it sounds like something of a business problem, not a technical problem |
| 17:00.56 | beandog | Yes, I know that ... thats why I'm asking |
| 17:01.02 | mgeary | :) |
| 17:01.15 | beandog | What is the proper implementation of revision control *if* you only one have one place where the code can be tested? |
| 17:01.28 | beandog | mgeary, ignore the current scenario .. Im looking for an ideal one |
| 17:01.38 | beandog | what's best practice? |
| 17:02.51 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: this is just an example but one that I think works well http://nvie.com/git-model |
| 17:03.02 | mgeary | well, i'd think you'd need to consolidate who has approval to push code live |
| 17:03.30 | mgeary | "everyone being responsible for everything" is just a recipe for trouble |
| 17:04.33 | beandog | ugh |
| 17:04.37 | beandog | I'm not talking about live code |
| 17:04.39 | beandog | I'm talking about development |
| 17:05.17 | beandog | lemme think |
| 17:05.28 | herlo | beandog: why did you ask me about puppet last night? |
| 17:05.47 | beandog | herlo, dunno |
| 17:06.01 | beandog | It may make more sense if you use a non-webdev analogy |
| 17:06.09 | beandog | For instance, you're all working on a binary written in C++ |
| 17:06.27 | beandog | Every developer, locally, has a copy of the master repo |
| 17:06.38 | beandog | They all make their local changes on their box, compile it, run it, test it, etc. |
| 17:06.47 | beandog | When they are happy with their changes, they push it to the master repo |
| 17:06.50 | beandog | Each of the devs does that, right? |
| 17:07.04 | DexterTheDragon | yeah |
| 17:07.18 | beandog | Alright |
| 17:07.22 | beandog | Well in web-develpment land |
| 17:07.31 | beandog | You don't have a copy of apache + website running on each local box |
| 17:07.35 | beandog | You have one master copy |
| 17:07.36 | DexterTheDragon | you should |
| 17:07.39 | mgeary | we do |
| 17:07.42 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, Okay, that's what Im asking |
| 17:07.48 | beandog | If thats the best way to do it. |
| 17:07.58 | mgeary | and then you check in your changes to svn/git/whatever |
| 17:08.32 | mgeary | and a single person has responsibility to update the live site from the svn repo |
| 17:09.06 | beandog | Wouldnt that be a bit of a pain though, setting up a web dev env. on each of the dev's individual boxes? |
| 17:09.35 | Utah_Dave | beandog: it's not too bad. |
| 17:09.49 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: programmings hard lets go shopping? |
| 17:10.03 | beandog | There's gotta be an easier alternative ... like having individual accounts on a central server, each serving up their own repo? |
| 17:10.28 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, well, I realize its a best practice, but it's going to be an uphill battle trying to get them to switch |
| 17:10.32 | Utah_Dave | Running the dev server on their local machine works really well. That's what we do here. |
| 17:10.41 | ninnypants | I just run xampp for local testing it's super simple to setup |
| 17:10.44 | beandog | I've been trying to convince them for years about RCS alone |
| 17:10.53 | DexterTheDragon | sure you could make virtualhosts for each user on one box |
| 17:11.22 | beandog | If Im gonna push this, I just wanna make it as hassle free as possible, since there's gonna be a lot of blowback |
| 17:11.34 | beandog | But, personally, I'm getting tired of their crappy way of doing things. |
| 17:12.18 | beandog | So if you guys have any suggestions on how to do that as *simply* as possible, that'd be awesome |
| 17:12.27 | beandog | I really don't think theyll go for having an apache setup on each box locally |
| 17:12.38 | beandog | But it would mean that it'd be easier to edit / commit stuff, since its all local ... |
| 17:12.51 | beandog | Oh, and they are all on Macs, if that makes a diff. |
| 17:13.05 | beandog | I'm the only one who isn't, but I'm running Linux |
| 17:13.05 | Utah_Dave | It's easier to work locally because then they just save and hit refresh. |
| 17:13.09 | mgeary | beandog: well, here's what we do |
| 17:13.12 | DexterTheDragon | http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-macosx.html |
| 17:13.25 | beandog | Utah_Dave, Well right now, it is local to them, since the /var/www stuff is shared over network share |
| 17:13.29 | mgeary | we have a /usr/local configuration in subversion. Makes it really easy to keep all our dev machines on the same page |
| 17:13.40 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, awesome |
| 17:14.05 | mgeary | we all use the same configuration, and when something good is added, it's simply checked-in, so we can all benefit |
| 17:14.20 | beandog | mgeary, whats in /usr/local? |
| 17:14.35 | mgeary | beandog: pretty much everything. Apache, Mysql, PHP, add-ons, you name it |
| 17:14.48 | beandog | mgeary, oh, the entire install? |
| 17:14.50 | beandog | gotcha. |
| 17:14.50 | mgeary | yes |
| 17:14.52 | beandog | + configs Im guessing |
| 17:14.55 | macnewbold | beandog: your source code control scenario sounds like a group of people we both know... ? |
| 17:14.57 | beandog | /usr/local/etc |
| 17:15.03 | beandog | macnewbold, strangely enough. |
| 17:15.16 | mgeary | beandog: right, though some device-specific configs are pointed outside /usr/local so they don't taint the repo |
| 17:15.49 | mgeary | so, for example, in /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf, we have: "Include /data/sites_conf/*.conf" |
| 17:16.24 | mgeary | it works really well for us. We do both python/django development and php, and it's all consistent |
| 17:17.59 | mgeary | i don't like using things like darwin/macports, i prefer to compile my own stuff, so having it all in svn has been a lifesaver, because sometimes it takes some real hammering to get everything to compile correctly |
| 17:18.27 | macnewbold | so regarding the meeting tonight... |
| 17:18.41 | macnewbold | we almost had a presenter yesterday, but due to sick kids, he won't be able to come |
| 17:18.53 | macnewbold | so we have carmony doing the phundamentals part |
| 17:19.04 | macnewbold | then after that, |
| 17:19.13 | macnewbold | the plan is pretty flexible right now |
| 17:19.37 | beandog | mgeary, I dont understand the Include stuff |
| 17:19.48 | beandog | mgeary, Or ... do you mean like ... shared configs for sites |
| 17:19.55 | beandog | mgeary, like DirectoryIndex settings and what not |
| 17:19.58 | beandog | for certain sites? |
| 17:19.59 | mgeary | no, that's where we put our vhost files |
| 17:20.01 | mgeary | yeah |
| 17:20.11 | macnewbold | so if you come and have something you want to share, or something you'd like us to discuss, we can probably do so |
| 17:20.14 | mgeary | so i might have a vhost for someproject.conf |
| 17:20.20 | beandog | mgeary, so apache settings ... and basically they are going to be the same across the board |
| 17:20.34 | mgeary | right, everything is the same except for what's in the vhosts |
| 17:21.11 | macnewbold | i'm tossing around a few ideas for discussion, but i won't be able to put together anything better than informal before tonight. |
| 17:22.02 | beandog | mgeary, fascinating. |
| 17:22.16 | macnewbold | that said, I'm down with going with the flow, whether it's applebees a little earlier than usual, a visit to the apple store to heckle the iphones, a bit of Halo, or watching an episode or two of the I.T. Crowd |
| 17:22.31 | beandog | macnewbold, do you guys have a wii? |
| 17:22.34 | macnewbold | its unfortunate when a presenter bails totally last minute |
| 17:22.46 | macnewbold | beandog: not on site, but if someone wants to bring one we could easily hook it up |
| 17:23.09 | macnewbold | atm it's wired for 1080p hdtv, dvd w/surround sound, and xbox (incl. netflix) |
| 17:23.14 | mgeary | beandog: i'd be happy to set up a sample machine for you sometime, if you'd like. I have a repo for 32-bit OS and 64-bit (Snow Leopard) |
| 17:24.23 | carmony | hahaha... heckle the iphones... :P |
| 17:24.33 | beandog | mgeary, Im really curious ... Id love to see it in action |
| 17:25.14 | mgeary | beandog: sure. just let me know when/how. I could share my screen and talk you through things |
| 17:26.03 | beandog | mgeary, okay, Ill get back to you on that one |
| 17:35.12 | ninnypants | someone quite a while back told me about the company they work for that does a lot of work for non-profits. Anyone remember telling me about that? I don't remember the name of the company |
| 17:42.59 | macnewbold | ninnypants: we've worked with a few... or a lot if you count any "not yet profitable" company as a non-profit :) |
| 17:43.19 | ninnypants | macnewbold: heh |
| 17:43.24 | ninnypants | link? |
| 17:43.49 | ninnypants | I remember the site style just not the name |
| 17:46.20 | macnewbold | quite a few of our projects are startups etc. - our site is www.codegreene.com - but i don't remember the conversation so it might not really have been us |
| 17:49.29 | ninnypants | it wasn't you the site as I remember it was read |
| 17:49.33 | ninnypants | heh |
| 17:49.34 | ninnypants | red |
| 17:53.20 | macnewbold | was it a web shop or a design firm? |
| 17:54.04 | ninnypants | both I think. The person I talked to recomeded applying for a dev position |
| 17:56.17 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, thanks for the git link, btw, I havent been able to read through all of it yet |
| 17:56.18 | ninnypants | figured I try to find it again since I'm looking for work |
| 18:04.05 | jtsnow | ninnypants: I think I may have been the one that told you |
| 18:04.19 | jtsnow | www.trellon.com |
| 18:04.30 | ninnypants | jtsnow: definatly was |
| 18:05.41 | beandog | dumb name, nice site |
| 18:06.11 | jtsnow | I didn't name it or build the site :) |
| 18:07.27 | ninnypants | hmm... |
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| 19:44.58 | supernovia | hey josephscott - you around? |
| 19:45.07 | josephscott | supernovia: yep! |
| 19:45.15 | supernovia | cool. I'm gonna pm you :) |
| 19:54.35 | carmony | supernovia: Gonna come to uphpu tonight? :) |
| 19:54.44 | supernovia | hey carmony :) |
| 19:54.52 | beandog | carmony, she's presenting |
| 19:54.56 | supernovia | lol |
| 19:55.02 | carmony | lol! I didn't get that memo :) |
| 19:55.05 | supernovia | I'll present uh. World of Goo |
| 19:55.09 | cedwards | hmm. I'm trying to do a multi-page form but my values don't seem to be coming through. |
| 19:55.14 | supernovia | or wii fit awesomeness |
| 19:55.30 | supernovia | (did they find someone to do something for the 2nd half besides wii gaming?) |
| 19:56.18 | cedwards | I have, for example, form{1,2,3}.php. Each form's action points to the next using POST. |
| 19:56.47 | cedwards | each form is using a hidden value and <?php print $_POST['value'] ?> to take the data from the previous form. |
| 19:57.02 | cedwards | ..but when I view source on form2,3 those values are empty. |
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| 19:57.07 | cedwards | am I missing something obvious |
| 19:57.36 | beandog | cedwards, sounds right on paper |
| 19:58.29 | cedwards | beandog: I know it's tough to tell without seeing the code.. |
| 19:59.17 | cedwards | beandog: form1.php posts to form2.php, which posts to form3.php which posts to the final page which prints out all the values for review. |
| 19:59.55 | carmony | cedwards: how are you passing values from form1.php to form3.php? |
| 20:01.24 | cedwards | form2.php includes: <input type="hidden" name="name" value="<?php print $_POST['name']; ?>" /> |
| 20:02.02 | beandog | That's always a bit dangerous, not validating input ... |
| 20:02.05 | cedwards | 'name' is in form1.php. when I view source on form2, value is "". |
| 20:02.19 | cedwards | beandog: this is not for anything production. |
| 20:02.32 | beandog | try doing var_dump($_POST) |
| 20:02.35 | beandog | see if anything is actually there. |
| 20:02.46 | beandog | or $_REQUEST |
| 20:03.48 | macnewbold | if a session might be appropriate, you could pass data that way too, though sometimes there are conflicts if they load multiple forms in different windows/tabs, then submit in different order |
| 20:04.57 | cedwards | macnewbold: I think SESSION might be best too. The goal of this exercise is to demonstrate multi-page forms using GET, POST and SESSION. |
| 20:05.56 | cedwards | var_dump($_POST); does include the values. interesting. |
| 20:07.23 | beandog | cedwards, which browser |
| 20:08.12 | beandog | well that shouldnt matter |
| 20:08.33 | cedwards | chromium |
| 20:08.33 | macnewbold | cedwards: if you want, you could bring it to the meeting tonight... |
| 20:09.00 | cedwards | macnewbold: wish I could come. I've been meaning to, but my schedule rarely works. |
| 20:09.19 | cedwards | macnewbold: now that it's at Code Greene though at least it isn't so out of the way. |
| 20:10.55 | macnewbold | good |
| 20:11.09 | macnewbold | i hope we gain some people by doing it further north, without losing people who are down souoth |
| 20:11.22 | macnewbold | but I think most of our regulars have been from north of draper rather than south of it. |
| 20:12.02 | cedwards | Code Greene is on my bus route, and even not far from Trax. The Draper location just doesn't work for me using public transit. |
| 20:12.18 | cedwards | (one car family. I'm the one that gets stuck with the bus/trax/train.) |
| 20:12.37 | macnewbold | we might need to keep our eyes out for an alternate location if we grow much - BGM was set up to handle up to 30 people pretty reasonably |
| 20:12.57 | cedwards | ok. using var_dump() I can see the previous form data on the next form, but not the one beyond that. |
| 20:13.09 | macnewbold | we rarely have any gatherings that large, so most of our meeting spaces are optimized for 4-10 people |
| 20:13.14 | cedwards | ie; form2 shows form1 data, but form3 only shows form2 data, and the final form only shows form3 data. |
| 20:13.26 | macnewbold | we can do probably 15-20 reasonably well though. after that it might get a little awkward, but still doable |
| 20:13.47 | cedwards | I see how SESSION would address this, but surely it's possible using POST/GET.. right? |
| 20:13.54 | macnewbold | yeah |
| 20:14.02 | macnewbold | hidden vars are the way to do it |
| 20:14.23 | macnewbold | one thing that gets in the way sometimes are redirects - if you have stuff getting posted, but have a redirect involved, it loses the posted info |
| 20:15.13 | macnewbold | unless of course you translate the posted data all into GET (assuming it is compatible and not too large, etc) |
| 20:17.01 | influx | sorry to hijack |
| 20:17.39 | influx | but what's the start time for the meeting? |
| 20:25.09 | macnewbold | influx: no hijacking required - it's 7pm |
| 20:26.44 | influx | Thank you. :) |
| 20:27.20 | cedwards | so would the form2 post be clearing previous post data? each input field has a unique name... |
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| 20:36.12 | mgeary | hey cakePHPers, anyone want to give me a snippet for executing random raw sql? i need to delete some rows across a couple of tables. What's the lightest-weight way to do it? |
| 20:40.12 | DexterTheDragon | mgeary: http://book.cakephp.org/view/456/query |
| 20:40.44 | mgeary | DexterTheDragon: that does a select. i need to do a delete based on a join |
| 20:40.51 | DexterTheDragon | so do it |
| 20:40.53 | mgeary | will that still work? |
| 20:41.10 | DexterTheDragon | it runs raw sql |
| 20:41.29 | mgeary | will it barf if you say $this->Picture->query("delete from not_pictures"); ? |
| 20:41.45 | DexterTheDragon | pretty sure it wont |
| 20:43.34 | josephscott | if you want code that will barf I'm pretty sure I can find out some |
| 20:43.39 | josephscott | heck, I could write some :-) |
| 20:43.47 | mgeary | what are the minimum includes for a cake script? |
| 20:44.07 | mgeary | i'm running this script from the command line, fwiw |
| 20:44.28 | mgeary | and i don't really need (want?) to use cake at all, but it's for a cake app, so i'd like to be compliant if it's easy |
| 20:47.55 | macnewbold | mgeary: easiest is probably to include config/bootstrap.php |
| 20:48.04 | macnewbold | but that might kick off the whole shebang |
| 20:48.22 | macnewbold | or maybe its' webroot/index.php taht yuo want |
| 20:48.24 | macnewbold | i can't recall |
| 20:48.39 | macnewbold | are you writing your command line thing as a cake console app? |
| 20:48.44 | macnewbold | cause they have that |
| 20:48.51 | beandog | what scope would __construct have? |
| 20:48.52 | beandog | public? |
| 20:48.58 | mgeary | no, it's just a db cleanup routine to regularly purge certain records |
| 20:49.02 | macnewbold | beandog: sure |
| 20:50.28 | mgeary | DexterTheDragon: what is "$this" in that snippet link you sent me? |
| 20:50.36 | mgeary | is that a model instance? |
| 20:55.08 | mgeary | okay |
| 20:55.14 | mgeary | i've got it working. thanks, DexterTheDragon, macnewbold |
| 21:20.14 | cedwards | figured out my issue. it's always so obvious.. after the hour of head->wall. |
| 21:20.15 | ninnypants | mgeary: req or ar you talking code? |
| 21:20.39 | mgeary | ninnypants: yeah, i'm using "req" for now, but i'm sure there are people out there that won't realize it stands for "required" |
| 21:21.25 | cedwards | I'm trying to print $_POST['value'], where value is an array. |
| 21:21.43 | cedwards | what is the right syntax? (my brain is fried today) |
| 21:22.53 | ninnypants | you could print out multiple fields with a name of value[] |
| 21:23.27 | cedwards | and I swear I tried that.. print $_POST['value[]']; ? |
| 21:24.24 | ninnypants | you'd still have to print out a field for each one |
| 21:25.43 | cedwards | and I don't know how many/what values will be defined I'm guessing I'll need a loop to extract and print them. |
| 21:26.45 | ninnypants | yep |
| 21:34.23 | carmony | so... I think for my presentation tonight I'll just talk about cool tools for PHP |
| 21:40.25 | influx | woot |
| 21:40.37 | cedwards | another n00b question: foreach($_POST['languages[]'] as $val) { print $val; } tells me 'invalid argument'. |
| 21:40.59 | influx | no need for the inner set of square brackets |
| 21:41.06 | ninnypants | yup |
| 21:41.16 | influx | so $_POST['languages'] as $val should work |
| 21:41.23 | ninnypants | influx: you still looking for an asp 3 book? |
| 21:41.27 | influx | yes |
| 21:41.38 | ninnypants | you gonna be at the meeting tonight? |
| 21:41.40 | influx | yep |
| 21:41.41 | influx | :) |
| 21:41.50 | ninnypants | cool I'll see if I can get you one |
| 21:42.04 | cedwards | thank you |
| 21:42.37 | ninnypants | that's what we're here for |
| 22:01.00 | cedwards | finally. got it all working. |
| 22:01.36 | cedwards | even got this into my foreach(): <input type='checkbox' name='languages[]' value="<?php print $val; ?>" checked="checked" /> <?php print $val; ?> |
| 22:18.40 | macnewbold | carmony: sounds great |
| 22:18.46 | macnewbold | looks like you've got as much time as you want :) |
| 22:19.04 | carmony | hah |
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| 22:33.54 | beandog | ugh, imap |
| 22:33.55 | beandog | -_- |
| 22:35.49 | beandog | Okay, n/m, it's getmail being dumb. |
| 22:39.38 | fungus | ~imap++ |
| 22:40.05 | beandog | I need to find out how to tell getmail not to fetch a copy of a delivered message twice. |
| 22:40.34 | beandog | blargh. |
| 22:43.16 | beandog | actually I guess thats not important. |
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| 22:58.29 | carmony | ok |
| 22:58.36 | carmony | I should probably get ready |
| 22:58.37 | carmony | :P |
| 22:59.04 | carmony | rofl |
| 22:59.08 | carmony | cape? :P |
| 23:17.28 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ArIj236UHs&feature=player_embedded |
| 23:23.47 | supernovia | herlo are you around by chance? |
| 23:44.03 | beandog | can you delete email using imap? |
| 23:44.05 | beandog | er |
| 23:44.07 | beandog | the remote copy I mean |
| 23:44.17 | beandog | just by downloading it |
| 23:45.21 | beandog | You are currently using 7476 MB (99%) of your 7476 MB. |
| 23:45.25 | beandog | whoopsie. :) |
| 23:45.29 | supernovia | nice |
| 23:45.42 | fungus | beandog, yes. |
| 23:46.16 | supernovia | so you'd be looking to download it then remove it from the server? |
| 23:46.22 | beandog | right |
| 23:46.32 | fungus | http://pastebin.org/398300 |
| 23:49.32 | beandog | fungus: oh, Im already using getmail |
| 23:49.38 | beandog | but it has an option to delete stuff |
| 23:49.42 | beandog | just wasnt sure what it'd do |
| 23:49.49 | beandog | I guess Ill find out. |
| 23:49.52 | fungus | never used getmail, but fetchmail deletes by default |
| 23:50.29 | fungus | or --nokeep |
| 23:50.43 | beandog | Oops⦠the system encountered a problem (#104) |
| 23:51.01 | fungus | ~resurrect gmail |
| 23:51.02 | ibot | ACTION gathers all his magical powers (and some prayin'!) and resurrects gmail from the dead. |
| 23:51.07 | beandog | lol |
| 23:51.51 | fungus | ah, gmail. IMAP functions slightly differently in gmail |
| 23:52.15 | mgeary | hey, i haven't applied a patch in years. can someone help me figure out how to do this |
| 23:52.17 | beandog | wow I really broke something. |
| 23:52.17 | fungus | deleting from the inbox just moves it to the archive |
| 23:52.24 | mgeary | i tried patch < myfile.patch |
| 23:52.29 | mgeary | but that didn't work |
| 23:52.29 | beandog | fungus: yah |
| 23:52.31 | beandog | I could use pop3 |
| 23:52.48 | beandog | but it takes longer to fetch |
| 23:52.51 | beandog | w/imap it'll grab all of em |
| 23:52.55 | fungus | mgeary, sometimes you need to use -p(0..9) to play with directory depths |
| 23:53.03 | beandog | oh well |
| 23:53.25 | fungus | beandog, you need to move messages to trash IIRC |
| 23:54.02 | mgeary | fungus: should i move the patch file into the project directory? |
| 23:54.37 | fungus | no, the -p options tells `patch` how many, if any, directories to ignore in the filesnames inside the patch file |
| 23:54.37 | mgeary | i'm getting "can't find file to patch at input line 5" |
| 23:55.19 | fungus | beandog, https://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=77657 |
| 23:55.21 | mgeary | so, the directory i'm patching is called "oembed", and the patchfile has this in it: |
| 23:55.28 | mgeary | Index: oembed/core.py |
| 23:55.47 | fungus | so if you are "in" the oembed dir, you need -p1 |
| 23:55.52 | mgeary | i'm above it |
| 23:55.54 | mgeary | one dir |
| 23:56.03 | beandog | fungus: oy ... okay .. thats helpful, thx |
| 23:56.26 | mgeary | okay, so i tried -p0, and i think it patched the first file |
| 23:56.28 | fungus | mgeary, try -p0 |
| 23:56.37 | mgeary | but it then choked on a file two directories down |
| 23:56.59 | mgeary | can i just manually paste the path to that file at the "File to patch" prompt? |
| 23:57.10 | fungus | yes |
| 23:59.24 | mgeary | thanks |