| 00:09.03 | mindjuju | thx utah_dave |
| 00:19.07 | Utah_Dave | ~sunday mindjuju |
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| 15:21.08 | macnewbold | ~whee! monday |
| 15:22.12 | herlo | heh |
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| 15:38.03 | SunSparc | ~monday |
| 15:38.04 | ibot | monday is, like, when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix, or and on a more positive note, Monday is a brand new day at the beginning of a brand new week, a place to start over and improve on last week. :), or the end of the weekend, a.k.a. the weekendend |
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| 15:54.22 | ninnypants | morning all |
| 15:55.46 | mgeary | what, already? |
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| 15:56.05 | ninnypants | seems like it |
| 15:56.16 | ninnypants | I would have liked to sleep in longer |
| 15:57.10 | macnewbold | mindjuju: when you have a sec, i wanted to touch base about the presentation on Thursday |
| 15:57.13 | SunSparc | Usually indicated by that big, bright, warm ball of light entering our sky. |
| 15:57.27 | macnewbold | i need to get an email announcement out, noting the change of location in particular |
| 16:03.07 | carmony_ | there is nothing like waking up in the morning and finding out you've been screwed by Apple again |
| 16:03.38 | mgeary | carmony_: Time Capsule? |
| 16:03.47 | carmony_ | mgeary: no, app store |
| 16:03.51 | mgeary | ah |
| 16:04.57 | carmony_ | our app got removed because we had an animation of this animation: http://www.bestanimations.com/Cartoons/Simpsons/Bart/Bart-02-june.gif |
| 16:05.15 | carmony_ | bleh, I can't even speak coheriently |
| 16:05.44 | mgeary | what is your app? |
| 16:05.53 | carmony_ | 3D Animations |
| 16:06.02 | mgeary | ah |
| 16:06.18 | carmony_ | it was a Jr. App of CLIPish |
| 16:06.46 | carmony_ | apple claims they received multiple complaints about the App |
| 16:07.13 | carmony_ | which we're 99% sure those complains came from competing developers |
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| 16:10.55 | mgeary | i'd have thought the image of Bart Simpson would be copyrighted anyways |
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| 16:16.27 | carmony_ | maybe, but they removed us because of "pronographic/inappropriate material" |
| 16:17.54 | mgeary | you should have a T-shirt made up that says, "Banned from the AppStore" |
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| 16:56.57 | beandog | pronographic? |
| 16:57.05 | beandog | those darn prones. |
| 16:57.37 | beandog | mindjuju, hey, good to see you on IRC again |
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| 17:04.16 | mindjuju | hi beandog! |
| 17:04.29 | beandog | mindjuju, I heard your colon cancer is getting better too ... right on ya! |
| 17:04.37 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:05.04 | mindjuju | colon cancer? |
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| 17:14.17 | SunSparc | ~coloncleanse mindjuju |
| 17:14.32 | beandog | ~enema mindjuju |
| 17:15.17 | SunSparc | "This town needs an enema!" |
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| 17:32.48 | SunSparc | beandog: Eggos by the crate?! :) Heh, you have problems dude. |
| 17:33.07 | beandog | SunSparc, I know ... Im out of syrup |
| 17:33.14 | SunSparc | LOL |
| 17:33.28 | SunSparc | Ever tried powdered sugar? |
| 17:33.51 | beandog | yah, no likey |
| 17:33.53 | beandog | too dry |
| 17:33.56 | SunSparc | That is my favorite way to eat french toast. |
| 17:34.03 | SunSparc | No, you need to do it the right way. |
| 17:34.14 | beandog | hows that |
| 17:34.49 | SunSparc | when the toast is still hot, you put a healthy sized pat of butter on it, let it get melty all over, then sprinkle the powdered sugar over that melted butter. |
| 17:34.53 | SunSparc | MMmmmmmm...... |
| 17:35.02 | SunSparc | Heaven |
| 17:36.02 | SunSparc | berry puree is good addition also |
| 17:40.46 | carmony_ | wow... http://kevincarmony.blogspot.com/2010/07/steve-jobs-is-killing-apple-moving-to.html :P |
| 17:44.45 | herlo | carmony_: your dad is on one man! |
| 17:44.57 | carmony_ | its been insane |
| 17:45.12 | carmony_ | I honestly can say I've been treated better by the IRS |
| 17:45.20 | herlo | and that is sad |
| 17:45.35 | beandog | the IRS is pretty nice. |
| 17:45.44 | beandog | well, in my experience of working with em. |
| 17:45.54 | carmony_ | beandog: Depends on why you're talking to them :P |
| 17:46.45 | beandog | carmony_, good post |
| 17:51.04 | beandog | I was gonna say earlier, have you guys considered moving to android |
| 17:53.45 | carmony_ | heh |
| 17:53.45 | carmony_ | ok |
| 17:53.52 | carmony_ | anyone know any Android developers? |
| 17:53.53 | carmony_ | :P |
| 17:58.17 | SunSparc | carmony_: How do you explain Apple's near demise until Jobs came back? |
| 17:58.45 | SunSparc | Good timing? |
| 17:58.58 | carmony_ | SunSparc: I think Jobs has a lot of good vision, and I think he was key to bring Apple to where it is |
| 18:00.02 | carmony_ | so I think he has served Apple well, but now his ego is getting in the way of what customers want |
| 18:01.32 | carmony_ | and that was my Father's post, but I agree with him :P |
| 18:03.04 | beandog | Either way, they're making some stupid decisions *now* |
| 18:03.11 | beandog | regardless of whether they made smart ones *then* |
| 18:04.18 | josephscott | so I'm not sure what the issue is here, if Apple and iPhone are so horrible, don't use them any more, use something else |
| 18:04.38 | josephscott | or, a third option, start your own products to compete with them |
| 18:04.47 | beandog | josephscott, well its not that easy if your livelihood depends upon apple's flakiness |
| 18:04.55 | beandog | josephscott, app store devs, not users :) |
| 18:05.03 | josephscott | then perhaps you've made a mistake |
| 18:05.15 | beandog | *app devs |
| 18:05.20 | carmony_ | well, we're moving to develop on Android now as we speak |
| 18:05.25 | josephscott | people tied their hopes to FB apps and got burned there too |
| 18:05.32 | josephscott | perhaps they shouldn't have done that |
| 18:06.39 | josephscott | carmony_: I've never met your dad, but I'd be willing to bet he's wrong about Apple dying if Jobs stays |
| 18:08.31 | carmony_ | It's going to go the way Microsoft has gone with Gates/Balmer :P |
| 18:08.40 | SunSparc | I am not so sure it is an ego problem. Apple sets their bar very high, they always have, at least while Steve has been there. People expect a high level of quality when they get something from Apple. |
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| 18:09.30 | SunSparc | carmony_: I am not sure what color classes you are looking at the situation through, but the way I see it, Apple is nowhere near the Microsoft beast. |
| 18:09.48 | carmony_ | SunSparc: Not yet, but they are acting more and more like it |
| 18:10.19 | SunSparc | How so? |
| 18:10.34 | carmony_ | Look at the iPhone 4 antenna issue |
| 18:10.34 | mgeary | well, i'll tell you this-- i think that what Apple is doing with their treatment of Flash is my current best hope for putting the dagger into Internet Explorer once and for all |
| 18:10.45 | josephscott | under current conditions it simply is not possible |
| 18:11.02 | carmony_ | when that first hit, jobs said "Not a problem with the phone, its a problem with the way you're holding it." |
| 18:11.13 | josephscott | part of the reason MS was able to do what they did is because they had the volume market share |
| 18:11.31 | josephscott | carmony_: was he wrong? |
| 18:11.42 | SunSparc | MS competes on price, Apple competes on quality. |
| 18:11.43 | josephscott | did changing the way you hold it change the signal? |
| 18:11.48 | carmony_ | Well, if you were left handed, your phone wouldn't work |
| 18:11.49 | carmony_ | yup |
| 18:12.03 | carmony_ | then they claimed it was a software issue |
| 18:12.16 | carmony_ | now they are saying "Ok, it might be a hardware issue" |
| 18:12.18 | josephscott | wouldn't work, really, left handed people could never use the phone? |
| 18:12.34 | carmony_ | The attenna is on the outside of the phone |
| 18:12.44 | carmony_ | so if you're hand was on the attenna, it would mess up the signla |
| 18:12.47 | carmony_ | signal |
| 18:12.58 | josephscott | right, I've read the sensational reporting |
| 18:13.16 | carmony_ | http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2010/07/12/VI2010071202630.html -- consumer reports pulled their recommendation for the iPhone |
| 18:13.21 | josephscott | and they could have done better, but some thought and reason seem to be in short supply |
| 18:14.06 | josephscott | right, I think Apple will need to improve the situation |
| 18:14.25 | carmony_ | yeah |
| 18:14.27 | josephscott | but consumer reports doesn't recommend you by chevy either, but for some reason people still do :-) |
| 18:14.36 | carmony_ | haha, which I don't understand why ;) |
| 18:15.14 | josephscott | as people, we like to pick one thing and declare that to be sufficient for it to succeed or fail |
| 18:15.22 | josephscott | and reality is rarely so clear cut |
| 18:15.25 | carmony_ | Yeah |
| 18:16.07 | josephscott | I still have people telling me WP will never be successful until it is rewritten in python |
| 18:16.16 | macnewbold | hey, but eventually we'll all be able to laugh about it, right? http://thishelpdesk.com/im-receptive-to-the-iphone-4/ |
| 18:16.17 | carmony_ | Well I think some of Jobs's policies and attitudes are harming some parts of Apple's products, and even when faced with obvious evidence that he is wrong, he refuses to change. |
| 18:16.21 | macnewbold | josephscott: ew gross |
| 18:16.25 | josephscott | some how that doesn't stop millions of people from using WP |
| 18:17.25 | josephscott | "Apple has replaced Microsoft as the coming decades "Evil Empire," and I blame Steve Jobs for that." |
| 18:17.41 | josephscott | "I don't credit Steve Jobs with the success of Apple." |
| 18:17.54 | josephscott | so he gets all the blame and none of the credit |
| 18:17.56 | carmony_ | This is the third time we have gone through this jumping through hoops game with Apple. They say XYZ is wrong with our App, and we spend all the time fixing it, and ask "Is this all? Are we good?" and they tell us yes, and then a month later we're removed again. |
| 18:18.20 | carmony_ | Eh, that statement is a little much I would say |
| 18:19.38 | josephscott | so the question becomes, is it worth putting up with (while still trying to encourage change)? |
| 18:20.02 | carmony_ | well for us we've decided to try to find other pastures while maintaining what we have |
| 18:20.34 | josephscott | and that's fine, heck, I'd even encourage it |
| 18:20.40 | carmony_ | yeah |
| 18:20.45 | carmony_ | we're just venting our frustration |
| 18:21.06 | carmony_ | this App Store approval thing is out of control, and it isn't even stopping a lot of the problems it is suppose to. |
| 18:21.09 | josephscott | I think that's a better description, that to call it a well thought out reasoned argument :-) |
| 18:21.48 | trevynm | carmony_: I have not read the article, just your chat here. But I too bought into apple and have a new macbook, iPhone 3g |
| 18:21.56 | trevynm | was very impressed for a while |
| 18:22.04 | trevynm | thought about doing all iMacs at home |
| 18:22.23 | trevynm | but the tethering, iphone4 issue is making me waver |
| 18:22.28 | carmony_ | I love, for the most part, Apple's Hardware. |
| 18:22.37 | trevynm | I decided to go andrioid last week |
| 18:22.38 | josephscott | they are tools, and markets, if they don't fit your needs, move to others |
| 18:22.40 | josephscott | or make your own |
| 18:22.57 | trevynm | josephscott: agreed, I change from windows, to linux, to mac daily |
| 18:23.02 | carmony_ | Its the way they treat 3rd party developers and people like that which is infuriating. |
| 18:23.03 | trevynm | and honestly cant make up my mind |
| 18:23.29 | josephscott | I don't understand why "I moved from iPhone to Android" is supposed to be the most important news of the day *cough* louis gray *cough* |
| 18:23.31 | trevynm | as I grow my needs grow and all vendors have different advantages and disadvantages |
| 18:24.00 | trevynm | josephscott: the influx of popularity of andriod is big news |
| 18:24.11 | trevynm | and with web standards in the middle, I find it important. |
| 18:24.22 | carmony_ | http://www.pcworld.com/article/200579/apples_iphone_app_fraud_where_were_the_app_police.html |
| 18:24.33 | trevynm | mobile OS/ moble apps/ mobile internet is a big deal to us as developers |
| 18:24.49 | trevynm | carmony_: glade in esource channel is a android dev |
| 18:25.03 | josephscott | carmony_: did you see the thing about the in-app purchases? is that what the pc world thing is? |
| 18:25.26 | josephscott | trevynm: it is news when one person switches? |
| 18:25.28 | trevynm | josephscott: yeah, I think so, it is were devs stole info |
| 18:25.45 | trevynm | josephscott: no, but android moving from 9% to 14% market share is news. |
| 18:25.59 | josephscott | the other funny though is that mobile web is starting to become reasonable now because of ...... wait for it ........ Apple |
| 18:26.02 | trevynm | and following trends is news |
| 18:26.40 | trevynm | josephscott: agreed. Except why are apps all the craze and not mobile web pages? |
| 18:27.00 | josephscott | several reasons |
| 18:27.20 | josephscott | you could probably think of several |
| 18:27.36 | carmony_ | josephscott: I don't disagree that Apple has been pioneering a lot of new advancements on the web and such, but that doesn't mean they can't be called on treating other developers poorly. |
| 18:27.49 | josephscott | but just remember what the mobile web experience was like before the iPhone, then try not to barf |
| 18:28.07 | josephscott | carmony_: agreed, they totally should be |
| 18:28.11 | trevynm | carmony_: or that certain moves are not "fair" mobile wifi/tethering att contracts ect. |
| 18:28.28 | josephscott | that's one reason why having android do well is so important, competition is good, will push Apple harder |
| 18:28.39 | carmony_ | josephscott: amen to that :P |
| 18:28.41 | trevynm | josephscott: i hope so, |
| 18:29.23 | trevynm | I just need to be happy with what we have |
| 18:29.35 | trevynm | I get impatient wanting the best of all devices/software in one |
| 18:29.39 | josephscott | and it works the other way too, do you really thing Android would be any where as good today as it is if the iPhone had never come out? |
| 18:30.08 | trevynm | fyi: http://www.androidcentral.com/google-unveils-android-app-inventor-no-coding-skill-required anyone seen that? |
| 18:30.36 | josephscott | say it, I'm curious to see where it goes |
| 18:31.25 | josephscott | historically, claiming to be able to write software with zero coding skills is more hype that reality, but I'm willing to see how google does in this area |
| 18:31.30 | josephscott | s/say/saw/ |
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| 18:39.09 | SunSparc | I just wish that iOS4 had not made my 3G such a sluggard. |
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| 18:41.02 | trevynm | SunSparc: agreed |
| 18:44.40 | PoeticIntensity | So... How's life in UPHPU today? |
| 18:44.59 | SunSparc | ~topic Apple rants |
| 18:48.08 | PoeticIntensity | I see. |
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| 18:57.45 | macnewbold | ~seen mindjuju |
| 18:57.49 | ibot | mindjuju is currently on #utos (3h 24m 19s) #utah (3h 24m 19s) #uphpu (3h 24m 19s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 1h 52m 45s, last said: 'colon cancer?'. |
| 18:58.48 | macnewbold | ~condolences mindjuju |
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| 19:13.10 | mgeary | hey josephscott |
| 19:13.17 | josephscott | mgeary: hi |
| 19:13.41 | mgeary | what does WP tell people who complain that it's really hard to have a staging site for a WP instance? |
| 19:14.12 | josephscott | what sort of staging are you looking for? |
| 19:14.25 | mgeary | we've got a client whose blog we maintain, and it's been a non-starter to have a separate instance and upon receiving approval, synchronize the code and data. All *kinds* of things get screwed up |
| 19:14.56 | mgeary | because a lot of config stuff is in the database, and has hardcoded urls and such |
| 19:15.57 | josephscott | syncing data isn' |
| 19:16.01 | josephscott | isn't much fun |
| 19:16.15 | mgeary | indeed |
| 19:16.18 | josephscott | though doable if you really want to |
| 19:16.24 | mgeary | we've simply resorted to not having a staging site |
| 19:16.36 | mgeary | but that gets really dodgy and a bit risky |
| 19:17.10 | josephscott | why do you need to sync data? |
| 19:18.12 | josephscott | I mean your theme isn't altering data right? |
| 19:18.16 | mgeary | trying to recall the details from last time we did that |
| 19:18.55 | mgeary | it was so painful, it appears i've suppressed a lot of the details |
| 19:20.14 | josephscott | this is definitely something that comes up from time to time |
| 19:20.38 | mgeary | i'm sure |
| 19:21.16 | mgeary | sounds like there's not a point-and-shoot solution |
| 19:21.25 | mgeary | i guess it's at least good to know we're not missing anything |
| 19:23.11 | josephscott | if I you really had to reproduce everything, there are a few ways to do it |
| 19:23.27 | josephscott | the actual content references are the most sensitive |
| 19:23.38 | josephscott | but for instance, example.com |
| 19:23.48 | josephscott | runs on production as example.com |
| 19:23.59 | josephscott | but you can also configure your own dev server to be example.com |
| 19:24.10 | josephscott | then edit /etc/hosts to point to your dev server |
| 19:24.15 | mgeary | yeah |
| 19:24.31 | mgeary | but that's not entirely practical when you work on multiple sites |
| 19:25.03 | mgeary | but it would have saved us some work had we done that last time |
| 19:25.25 | josephscott | why? |
| 19:25.42 | josephscott | I've got dozens of sand boxed blogs in my /etc/hosts file |
| 19:26.01 | mgeary | we do that too, but it's typically clientdomain.com.localhost |
| 19:26.10 | josephscott | why localhost? |
| 19:26.18 | mgeary | so you can have several running without having to tweak your hosts file every time you shift gears |
| 19:26.30 | mgeary | because sometimes you want to hit the real site :) |
| 19:26.46 | josephscott | I'm not sure I follow, how many copies of the same staging environment do you need? |
| 19:27.03 | josephscott | I just comment out the entry in /etc/hosts |
| 19:28.32 | josephscott | this goes back a bit to my original question, how much of this is data dependent? if it is mostly theme work then it shouldn't be altering data anyway |
| 19:29.09 | mgeary | yeah, it is a good tip, and that's easier than retro-editing a bunch of database records. I'm just glad we only have a couple of blogs we manage, because sometimes we shift gears frequently, and i'm sure i (at least) would forget to activate/de-activate the local dns override |
| 19:29.58 | josephscott | I ask, because you can set up a separate dev environment that either uses a separate DB, or talks to the live DB |
| 19:30.39 | mgeary | yeah. it seems like at the time, we had set up like 20 blog posts on a dev machine for the client to review as part of a new domain overhaul |
| 19:30.58 | mgeary | but those posts were obviously attached to the wrong domain |
| 19:31.18 | mgeary | i had originally assumed there'd just be some sort of config file baseurl parameter that could be tweaked. |
| 19:31.47 | josephscott | if you hard code links in the post content then it makes more work to change them |
| 19:32.17 | josephscott | there's lots of info on that sort of thing in the codex |
| 19:32.25 | josephscott | moving around, export, import |
| 19:33.15 | mgeary | cool |
| 19:35.24 | josephscott | there are lots of options to over ride things in wp-config.php, so you could likely come up with a setup where no hosts file editing was required if you really wanted to |
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| 20:02.19 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: papeclips :) |
| 20:02.47 | herlo | er papepclips |
| 20:02.53 | DexterTheDragon | herlo: :P |
| 20:04.42 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:04.59 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: Who has the key? |
| 20:05.13 | DexterTheDragon | nobody knows |
| 20:05.25 | beandog | I left my keys in my apartment door lock the other day for a few hours |
| 20:05.28 | SunSparc | eh? How do you usually get in? |
| 20:05.31 | DexterTheDragon | the key disappeared after we moved in |
| 20:05.37 | SunSparc | Nice |
| 20:05.42 | SunSparc | beandog: My wife does that all the time. |
| 20:05.58 | SunSparc | I come home and her whole keychain is still hanging from the key. |
| 20:06.38 | beandog | lol |
| 20:06.49 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:06.50 | herlo | SunSparc: I've done that a few times |
| 20:06.51 | beandog | time to get keyless entry locks |
| 20:07.00 | macnewbold | private keys |
| 20:07.15 | macnewbold | and passphrases |
| 20:07.24 | herlo | at one point, my old roommate was lookign at the whole rfid keyless entry system. It's pretty awesome actually |
| 20:08.15 | SunSparc | herlo: That would be cool, as long as there was still some challenge protection. |
| 20:08.42 | SunSparc | I keep telling my wife I want one of the keypad locks, but she things they are too expensive. |
| 20:10.00 | herlo | SunSparc: it has a keypad too |
| 20:10.13 | influx | hello all |
| 20:10.15 | SunSparc | Cool |
| 20:10.17 | herlo | the one he was looking at was like $600 |
| 20:10.22 | herlo | hi influx |
| 20:10.35 | SunSparc | ~hello influx |
| 20:10.36 | ibot | ACTION stands up and shouts "HELLO influx!" |
| 20:11.02 | SunSparc | herlo: for a sweet rfid system, that sounds reasonable. |
| 20:14.51 | fungus | I want a door with an OTP authentication pad. |
| 20:15.24 | SunSparc | That would be cool. |
| 20:15.44 | fungus | Though it would be really annoying when carrying a ton of stuff |
| 20:15.55 | fungus | hmm, maybe not. |
| 20:15.57 | SunSparc | Then again, it would be cool to have, "my voice is may password, verify me". |
| 20:17.17 | fungus | hehe. even better |
| 20:17.36 | mgeary | psh. haven't you guys seen Sneakers? |
| 20:17.44 | influx | haha |
| 20:17.52 | mgeary | everyone knows voice-activated passwords are easily hacked |
| 20:18.19 | fungus | yeah, but they are cool. |
| 20:18.31 | mgeary | i have a voice-activated door opener |
| 20:18.44 | influx | I have voice-activated hands. |
| 20:18.49 | influx | "Make me a sandwich!" |
| 20:18.52 | mgeary | i come home with an armload of groceries, and i stand at the door and yell, "Somebody open the door!" |
| 20:18.56 | mgeary | and presto, the door opens |
| 20:19.01 | influx | Hah. |
| 20:19.30 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:20.19 | SunSparc | mgeary: I don't believe it. You know cats lack opposable thumbs. |
| 20:20.38 | mgeary | the day a cat is granted access to my home will be a cold day in Hell |
| 20:20.57 | SunSparc | lol |
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| 20:23.13 | mgeary | so is the current conventional wisdom that for SEO purposes it's best to have a domain.com vhost that does a 302 redirect to www.domain.com ? |
| 20:23.33 | mgeary | or do y'all set up www as an alias and handle the redirect with htaccess...? |
| 20:23.46 | mgeary | or do you just alias the www and let both domains work? |
| 20:30.26 | SunSparc | I just use the ServerAlias |
| 20:30.38 | mgeary | so you take option #3 |
| 20:30.46 | mgeary | that's what i've done in most cases |
| 20:30.58 | mgeary | but i'm led to believe that's not optimal from a SEO perspective |
| 20:34.09 | DexterTheDragon | http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/seo-advice-url-canonicalization/ |
| 20:35.40 | SunSparc | My take on SEO is make your web site, fill it with content and let the spiders do their thing. SEO changes all the time anyway. |
| 20:40.47 | mgeary | DexterTheDragon: thanks, that's a nice article |
| 21:06.35 | beandog | mgeary, actually my theory is its very cold in hell |
| 21:06.42 | beandog | lack of light |
| 21:08.15 | mgeary | it's a state of mind, IMO |
| 21:11.47 | PoeticIntensity | I think it's borth. |
| 21:11.51 | PoeticIntensity | hehe... |
| 21:11.51 | PoeticIntensity | borth |
| 21:11.55 | PoeticIntensity | oh my goodness. |
| 21:11.56 | PoeticIntensity | b |
| 21:11.56 | PoeticIntensity | o |
| 21:11.56 | PoeticIntensity | t |
| 21:11.57 | PoeticIntensity | h |
| 21:26.28 | orsonj | heh, I tend to lock myself out of the car every month or two. |
| 21:27.00 | orsonj | I now carry two sets of keys, one in each pocket. |
| 21:28.37 | beandog | what if you have two doors? |
| 21:28.43 | PoeticIntensity | right on... I've haven't been able to think straight for the past week. |
| 21:28.55 | PoeticIntensity | I was hoping it was over, but evidently, it isn't. |
| 21:29.01 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, heh |
| 21:42.47 | beandog | wow, I think the paint fumes are getting to me. |
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| 22:02.07 | mgeary | uhh. is "dig" not installed by default on Ubuntu..? |
| 22:11.49 | beandog | bind-tools |
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| 22:14.41 | beandog | mindjuju, o hai |
| 22:14.58 | mindjuju | howdy beandog |
| 22:15.08 | beandog | ~pinky mindjuju |
| 22:15.09 | ibot | ACTION makes mindjuju wear rubber pants and a cheese shirt |
| 22:15.24 | mindjuju | thx! |
| 22:15.33 | beandog | mindjuju, hows the new job |
| 22:15.37 | mindjuju | not too bad |
| 22:15.41 | beandog | did you convert them all to linux yet? |
| 22:15.57 | mindjuju | no office, and there is an interegation light overhead |
| 22:16.09 | mindjuju | but i'm rearranging the cubicle to block out the flouresent lights |
| 22:16.18 | beandog | mindjuju, right on |
| 22:17.14 | mindjuju | i need to get this |
| 22:17.15 | mindjuju | http://www.zazzle.com/saloon_doors_for_your_cubicle_poster-228923862321337766 |
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