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| 04:41.43 | josephscott | ~lart SOAP |
| 04:41.43 | ibot | does a little 'renice 20 -u SOAP' |
| 04:42.45 | josephscott | ~lart SOAP |
| 04:42.45 | ibot | whacks SOAP upside the head |
| 04:43.23 | josephscott | ~lart WSSE |
| 04:43.23 | ibot | crushes WSSE with a full height scsi disk |
| 05:36.55 | ninnypants | josephscott: having some issues with soap? |
| 05:37.16 | josephscott | I have plenty of dislike for SOAP |
| 05:37.33 | ninnypants | read about it once though |
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| 15:44.22 | mgeary | mornin' |
| 15:45.10 | macnewbold | morning rotfl's: http://clientsfromhell.net/post/749549515/boss-charges-into-my-office-furiously-two-days |
| 15:45.38 | mgeary | i call fake |
| 15:47.10 | macnewbold | there are a bunch on cfh that could be fakes, but some are too crazy to even be made up |
| 15:47.19 | influx | Eh. |
| 15:47.21 | influx | Debatable. |
| 15:47.45 | influx | People add javascript in an attempt to foil right-click source views. |
| 15:47.57 | influx | Never mind that you can disable javascript or view source from the menu. |
| 15:48.06 | macnewbold | no doubt |
| 15:48.12 | mgeary | yeah, we had a client that forced us to disable right-clicking on images... :S |
| 15:48.22 | macnewbold | you've got to go to a lot of work if you really want to try to stop people |
| 15:48.43 | macnewbold | i always tell them "anything that they can see on their screen is already downloaded, so trying to stop it is kind of moot" |
| 15:48.55 | macnewbold | "just don't send them anything you wouldn't want them to be able to save and keep and redistribute" |
| 15:49.17 | mindjuju | watermarking is a great way to step around |
| 15:49.33 | mindjuju | sure, you can photoshop a watermrk out, but... |
| 15:49.39 | macnewbold | that's why drm annoys the crap out of me... there are ways around it anyway, they're just escalating an arms race that can always be won |
| 15:50.07 | macnewbold | mindjuju: yeah, watermarking, sending something low res instead of 200+dpi, etc. are totally useful |
| 15:50.19 | macnewbold | the right watermark can be pretty hard to get out |
| 15:50.26 | macnewbold | like an emboss or something |
| 15:50.31 | influx | low-res when it comes to pixel count, you mean. |
| 15:50.32 | influx | ? |
| 15:50.44 | macnewbold | influx: yeah, i.e. sending a 200x200 pixel image, |
| 15:50.51 | mindjuju | yeah, not print quality images |
| 15:50.52 | macnewbold | instead of making available the full 2000x2000 image somewhere |
| 15:50.58 | influx | right. |
| 15:51.30 | macnewbold | if they need hi res, to proof it or wahtever, send a detail of the full image, something small enough that it isn't useful for any of the purposes you'd want to prevent |
| 15:51.36 | influx | Just asking since a 200x200 pixel image at 200dpi is the same size as a 200x200 pixel image at 72dpi or any other dpi is all. |
| 15:51.57 | influx | :3 |
| 15:52.08 | macnewbold | some people don't get that javascript code, flash, etc. all run in the browser, so they're already out the door |
| 15:52.36 | macnewbold | but aside from server misconfigurations and such, they can't get your php code :) only the html/css/js/whatever it outputs |
| 15:52.47 | macnewbold | which is much less useful for nefarious purposes |
| 16:07.53 | macnewbold | one way that works okay is obfuscation, like base64 encoding or gzipping |
| 16:08.04 | macnewbold | it works nice with js in particular |
| 16:08.05 | mindjuju | to easy to undo |
| 16:08.11 | macnewbold | take a look at the source for google's home page |
| 16:08.20 | macnewbold | yeah, it only stops casual users mostly. |
| 16:08.23 | mindjuju | here's how i'm thinking is the way to go |
| 16:08.30 | mindjuju | write your HTML code |
| 16:08.47 | mindjuju | include a rootkit, and have the root kit 's first command to wipe out the internet cache |
| 16:08.51 | mindjuju | and reboot the box |
| 16:09.00 | mindjuju | now, ohw to fix the routers that were involved |
| 16:10.43 | mgeary | nah, just serve up full-screen images of your html already rendered :) |
| 16:10.59 | mgeary | maybe knock the jpeg quality setting down to about 20% |
| 16:11.03 | mgeary | no one will steal that |
| 16:11.07 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 16:33.09 | Utah_Dave | mgeary: that's a funny idea! |
| 16:33.27 | Utah_Dave | imagine your gmail rendered to jpeg, with an image map to make all the links work. |
| 16:34.11 | mgeary | woot |
| 16:38.53 | mindjuju | hmm, so the nook gets free G3 to any AT&T hotspot |
| 16:39.22 | mindjuju | http://www.barnesandnoble.com/nook/features/?cds2Pid=30195 |
| 16:41.20 | influx | yep |
| 16:41.22 | influx | :D |
| 16:41.35 | influx | image maps. Man, that takes me back. |
| 16:41.46 | mindjuju | that's one way to enter the marketplace late and fight for share |
| 16:42.42 | influx | Yous guys have nooks? |
| 16:43.58 | mindjuju | no |
| 16:44.49 | mindjuju | just sayin', that's one way to do it |
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| 16:55.07 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 16:55.08 | ibot | takes out cycokilr with the trash |
| 16:55.31 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 16:55.32 | ibot | puts macnewbold into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of macnewbold's hair of |
| 16:55.58 | mindjuju | sadly, macnewbold doesn't have that muchhair up there anymore these days anyways |
| 16:56.05 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:59.34 | SunSparc | ~hair macnewbold |
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| 17:41.20 | fungus | http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/28/iphone-4-vs-evo-4g/ |
| 17:53.02 | utahcon | anyone got some advice on freeing up memory in PHP daemons? |
| 17:54.25 | mgeary | PHP daemons |
| 17:54.36 | mgeary | i just think that's funny |
| 17:58.12 | josephscott | utahcon: be sure to unset() vars/data you don't need any more |
| 17:58.18 | SunSparc | ~daemon mgeary |
| 17:58.36 | josephscott | benchmark each change, see what real impact is has on memory use |
| 17:58.51 | josephscott | ~lart SOAP |
| 17:58.51 | ibot | blasts SOAP with a huge firehose then strangles SOAP with it |
| 17:58.51 | SunSparc | josephscott: What are you talking about. That is C you are talking about, you know responsible coding. |
| 17:59.14 | josephscott | PHP has an unset() :-) |
| 17:59.31 | SunSparc | josephscott: Sssh, don't tell the PHP coders. |
| 17:59.44 | josephscott | it's easy to not thing about it much in PHP because in the web model the whole thing gets thrown away after the page load finished |
| 18:00.13 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 18:36.17 | herlo | Utah_Dave: ping |
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| 18:44.37 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 18:44.38 | ibot | stuffs olds_ into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it |
| 18:50.31 | mindjuju | i just don't know what to say ... http://i.imgur.com/KyfXL.jpg |
| 18:51.02 | SunSparc | PhotoShop |
| 18:51.09 | SunSparc | But funny |
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| 18:55.41 | mindjuju | hi beandog |
| 18:55.49 | beandog | mindjuju, lo |
| 18:58.53 | beandog | whats up |
| 18:59.58 | ninnypants | hey beandog |
| 19:00.04 | beandog | ninnypants, hows it |
| 19:00.15 | beandog | does anyone else have friday off? |
| 19:00.18 | beandog | we're getting it off here |
| 19:00.19 | beandog | seems odd |
| 19:00.32 | xjohn | we get monday off |
| 19:00.41 | ninnypants | my wife get's monday off though |
| 19:02.04 | ninnypants | beandog: it's not bad. just thinkin about spending money I don't have to rescue a dog |
| 19:02.24 | beandog | geeeeeeez ... chromium doesn't even work with webm on youtube |
| 19:02.25 | beandog | grawr |
| 19:02.28 | beandog | ninnypants, :( |
| 19:05.08 | ninnypants | but yeah he was all depressed and not eating, and I haven't got word from my rescue on wether or not I can get him so I'm thinking I may do it myself |
| 19:07.05 | beandog | ninnypants, thats crazy man |
| 19:07.52 | ninnypants | the worst part is that he's papered and would have gone on ksl in 10 minutes |
| 19:16.17 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Whoa,-Batman!.aspx#PPic2 |
| 19:18.40 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:25.21 | herlo | that's our jsmith: http://press.redhat.com/2010/06/29/introducing-fedora-project-leader-jared-smith/ |
| 19:27.13 | mindjuju | that coo! |
| 19:28.21 | fungus | wow, grats jsmith-away |
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| 19:28.52 | beandog | fedora? |
| 19:28.55 | beandog | never heard of it |
| 19:29.00 | fungus | ~lart beandog |
| 19:29.00 | ibot | whips out a sword and chops beandog in half |
| 19:29.04 | beandog | :) |
| 19:29.21 | SunSparc | beandog: It is a type of hat. |
| 19:30.55 | beandog | thats cool tho |
| 19:34.54 | josephscott | ~lart SOAP |
| 19:34.54 | ibot | takes SOAP to the vet for a "special" visit |
| 19:34.59 | josephscott | ~lart WSSE |
| 19:34.59 | ibot | whips out a sword and chops WSSE in half |
| 19:37.28 | fungus | ~google WSSE |
| 19:43.55 | mindjuju | anybody have any standard verification via email boilerplate? |
| 19:45.48 | beandog | "Please click here if you're dumb enough to click on any random link in an email." |
| 19:46.15 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 |
| 19:46.52 | mindjuju | har har har |
| 19:47.29 | beandog | :) |
| 19:47.50 | mindjuju | @beandog - 100% no rick roll guarantee - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN62PAKoBfE |
| 19:48.02 | beandog | O my. |
| 19:48.03 | beandog | Just as bad. |
| 19:48.12 | mindjuju | try getting that song out of your head |
| 19:48.15 | mindjuju | ;p |
| 19:49.13 | beandog | mindjuju, actually ive found the best way to get a song out of your head is to listen to something in a completely different genre |
| 19:49.18 | beandog | that has nowhere near the same beat |
| 19:49.42 | mindjuju | sadly, it just becomes a mashup in my head |
| 19:49.54 | beandog | mindjuju, thats pretty intense. |
| 19:51.45 | beandog | amazon is down |
| 19:51.46 | beandog | :( |
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| 19:54.41 | mindjuju | beandog, here is what i mean |
| 19:54.57 | mindjuju | the other day we were singing this -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlw43eacFqk |
| 19:55.03 | mindjuju | and alls i could think of is this |
| 19:55.08 | beandog | forget it, Im not clicking .. I just got the song out |
| 19:55.10 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd1mpD6zeIY |
| 19:55.21 | mindjuju | it's not macerna |
| 19:55.23 | mindjuju | i promise |
| 19:55.28 | mindjuju | and it's not rick roll neither |
| 19:55.49 | beandog | rock of ages = meh |
| 19:56.05 | beandog | lol |
| 19:56.14 | mindjuju | see |
| 19:56.24 | mindjuju | we were singing the first, but i couldn't get the second out of my head |
| 19:56.24 | beandog | Okay this one is awesome. |
| 19:57.02 | beandog | ~mindjuju++ |
| 19:57.23 | mindjuju | i like david lanz |
| 19:58.35 | mindjuju | this is my fav dave lanz - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBfFI-Xdrvs |
| 19:58.51 | beandog | yah Im listening to that album |
| 19:58.57 | herlo | mindjuju: geek lunch, The Philadelphian, this Friday, right? |
| 19:59.01 | beandog | was just on that one too |
| 19:59.29 | mindjuju | @herlo |
| 19:59.30 | mindjuju | http://www.thedowntownphilly.com/menu.php http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Philadelphian,+Sandy,+UT&fb=1&gl=us&hq=Philadelphian,&hnear=Sandy,+UT&cid=11527922019179825826 |
| 19:59.39 | mindjuju | oh, it mashed them together |
| 19:59.47 | mindjuju | http://www.thedowntownphilly.com/menu.php |
| 19:59.54 | mindjuju | http://maps.google.com/maps/place?hl=en&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Philadelphian,+Sandy,+UT&fb=1&gl=us&hq=Philadelphian,&hnear=Sandy,+UT&cid=11527922019179825826 |
| 20:00.06 | beandog | cool site |
| 20:00.07 | mindjuju | but we never got word from supernovia if she was coming up or staying in the UC |
| 20:04.12 | herlo | mindjuju: I'm just going to announce the geek lunch in Sandy |
| 20:04.19 | herlo | then, we can update it as needed, sound fair? |
| 20:04.28 | mindjuju | sounds good |
| 20:04.33 | herlo | ~tinyurl mindjuju |
| 20:04.34 | ibot | ACTION runs '/exec tinyurl.sh http://maps.google.com//maps/ms?ie=UTF8&addr=mindjuju' and laughs maniacally! |
| 20:12.06 | herlo | mindjuju: post going up shortly |
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| 20:35.22 | fungus | hey, supernovia didn't tell me about the new will it blend video. |
| 20:35.37 | fungus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLreo24WYeQ |
| 20:36.27 | mindjuju | is that the one with the iphone 4? |
| 20:36.34 | fungus | yes |
| 20:36.47 | mindjuju | she was actually there when he did it |
| 20:36.56 | mindjuju | said it made super acrid prolly toxic smoke |
| 20:39.01 | mindjuju | don't tase me bro! |
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| 20:40.34 | mindjuju | oh man, i want in on that contract |
| 20:40.45 | mindjuju | 2 yrs phone contract |
| 20:42.07 | herlo | mindjuju: http://blog.utos.org/2010/06/29/june-2010-geek-lunch-philadelphia-here-we-come/ |
| 20:42.41 | mindjuju | oh man, guitar hero three will it blend - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7JCrbRr54w&feature=related |
| 20:42.43 | beandog | herlo, thanks |
| 20:44.14 | herlo | beandog: anytime |
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| 20:47.13 | fungus | woot, another win for HTML5 vs Flash |
| 20:47.15 | fungus | http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/06/28/1932245/Porn-Industry-Ready-To-Drop-Flash |
| 20:48.06 | mgeary | hey in xargs, how do you reference the supplied file? |
| 20:48.12 | herlo | fungus: interesting |
| 20:48.22 | herlo | mgeary: it's implied |
| 20:48.32 | fungus | it's appended to the end |
| 20:48.34 | mgeary | herlo: i need to use it with cp, so it's not implied |
| 20:48.43 | herlo | mgeary: show your command |
| 20:49.00 | fungus | mgeary, you need to use -I then |
| 20:49.01 | mgeary | find . -type f | grep -v foo | xargs cp /to/some/dir |
| 20:49.06 | mindjuju | dude has a wild burr up his ace - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvIY0w4j1FA |
| 20:49.15 | herlo | mgeary: yeah, what fungus said |
| 20:49.15 | fungus | xargs -I % cp % /to/some/dir |
| 20:49.47 | beandog | mindjuju, "I feel like its my duty..." = me tuning out |
| 20:50.24 | mindjuju | i'm suprised the guy didn't argue that grinding magnets wouldn't have stopped the earth in its orbit |
| 20:50.32 | mindjuju | what a dork |
| 20:51.24 | mgeary | fungus: perfect. thanks |
| 20:55.03 | fungus | xargs by default implies to put the args at the end, if you need otherwise you create the placeholder with -I and use the place holder |
| 20:55.16 | beandog | xargs is so confusing |
| 20:55.22 | beandog | their man page is not helpful either. |
| 20:55.23 | fungus | not really |
| 20:55.37 | beandog | I still can't figure out when you need -print and when you need -print0 |
| 20:55.40 | PoeticIntensity | nothing is confusing for the almighty fungus.... ;-) |
| 20:55.42 | fungus | well... the man page kinda sucks |
| 20:55.44 | PoeticIntensity | hehe. |
| 20:56.01 | fungus | print0 is for files w/ spaces |
| 20:56.20 | beandog | why doesn't it do that by default? |
| 20:56.25 | beandog | that doesnt make sense to me. |
| 20:56.26 | beandog | -_- |
| 20:56.45 | fungus | because you don't always want to split args on nulls since that is not normally used |
| 20:56.55 | fungus | usually you split args on whitespace |
| 20:57.11 | fungus | spaces in filenames are the exception to the rule. |
| 20:57.52 | fungus | xargs is not only used with output from find. |
| 20:58.00 | fungus | it's not always used with filenames as input |
| 20:58.15 | beandog | makes sense |
| 20:58.17 | beandog | it's still confusing, though. |
| 20:58.25 | beandog | I like using while read |
| 20:58.34 | beandog | if I run into spaces |
| 20:58.35 | fungus | eww, that's even more confusing |
| 20:58.48 | beandog | really? seems more intuitive to me. |
| 20:58.54 | beandog | you have it dumped straight in a var |
| 20:58.57 | beandog | easier to debug. |
| 20:59.05 | fungus | but then you have to use a loop |
| 20:59.15 | beandog | yah |
| 20:59.17 | beandog | it's a tradeoff. |
| 20:59.29 | fungus | really steep tradeoff compared to using print0 |
| 21:00.19 | beandog | I can never get it to work right for me |
| 21:00.21 | beandog | it always splits wrong |
| 21:00.26 | beandog | especially when using find |
| 21:03.40 | fungus | find . -print0 | xargs -0 |
| 21:03.50 | fungus | vs find . | xargs |
| 21:13.19 | beandog | Oh |
| 21:13.26 | beandog | I was mixing up find and xargs. |
| 21:13.32 | beandog | meh |
| 21:52.30 | beandog | mindjuju, http://daily.likeme.net/2010/06/25/10-other-80s-movies-they-might-as-well-go-ahead-and-remake/ |
| 21:53.16 | mindjuju | i didn't know about short circuit |
| 21:53.17 | mindjuju | that's sad |
| 21:53.36 | mindjuju | number 8 happened as a direct to DVD |
| 21:53.43 | mindjuju | it's called war games : dead code |
| 21:53.45 | mindjuju | or somethign like that |
| 21:53.58 | beandog | oh man guess what I finally saw last night |
| 21:54.01 | beandog | The Andromeda Strain |
| 21:54.06 | beandog | That movie is awesome! \o/ |
| 21:54.07 | mindjuju | which one? |
| 21:54.13 | mindjuju | there was one from the 70s |
| 21:54.14 | beandog | Uh, probably the original. |
| 21:54.18 | mindjuju | one from a coupell years ago |
| 21:54.28 | beandog | It was old. |
| 21:55.16 | influx | No. They can't remake Short Circuit without Mister The Plague |
| 21:59.39 | mindjuju | influx, that's Hackers, not short circuit |
| 21:59.47 | mindjuju | or did imisunderstand? |
| 22:00.16 | beandog | that movie is so horrible |
| 22:00.23 | mindjuju | Hackers? |
| 22:00.27 | beandog | no |
| 22:00.34 | beandog | hackers is t3h awesomeness |
| 22:00.53 | mindjuju | it would have been better with Jennifer Connely or maybe dr crusher |
| 22:01.01 | mindjuju | but jen con is my first vote |
| 22:01.40 | mindjuju | jolie = meh |
| 22:01.46 | *** join/#uphpu SunSparc (~sparky@173-8-91-177-Utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 22:01.46 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v SunSparc] by ChanServ |
| 22:01.54 | beandog | http://www.snotr.com/video/1196 |
| 22:01.54 | beandog | heh |
| 22:01.57 | beandog | funny, but too long |
| 22:03.26 | beandog | If you wanna see a really great / bad hackers movie |
| 22:03.28 | beandog | watch the Masterminds |
| 22:03.55 | beandog | er I think thats the name |
| 22:04.07 | mindjuju | still watching your first link |
| 22:04.20 | beandog | it even has patrick stewart in it |
| 22:04.24 | beandog | which would make you think it's not a bomb |
| 22:04.27 | beandog | but that's not true either. |
| 22:04.34 | mindjuju | amazon fail |
| 22:05.31 | mindjuju | this it? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074877/ |
| 22:05.36 | mindjuju | seems kind of old for hackers |
| 22:06.02 | beandog | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119630/ |
| 22:06.04 | beandog | Ooh a trailer |
| 22:06.22 | beandog | man I loved this movie when it came out. |
| 22:06.33 | beandog | I saw it like half a dozen times |
| 22:07.24 | mindjuju | jean luc pacard? a bad guy? |
| 22:07.35 | beandog | believe it baby! |
| 22:07.57 | mindjuju | oh man |
| 22:08.02 | mindjuju | this is teenage die hard |
| 22:08.19 | mindjuju | the building blows up |
| 22:09.07 | beandog | heh |
| 22:09.07 | beandog | pretty much |
| 22:09.15 | beandog | I wish it was on DVD |
| 22:11.04 | influx | mindjuju: it was a reference to Hackers, but I was talking about the guy who played the part of Johnny #5's keeper. |
| 22:11.07 | influx | or one of them |
| 22:11.10 | influx | the "indian" |
| 22:11.15 | mindjuju | oh yes |
| 22:11.18 | mindjuju | i remember that guy |
| 22:11.21 | influx | He played the part of The Plague in Haxors. |
| 22:11.43 | influx | :D |
| 22:12.00 | mindjuju | wait wait, the indian guy in short circuit is the bad guy in hackers? |
| 22:14.00 | beandog | http://wonderfactory.org/comics/2007-07-18-timetravel.gif |
| 22:14.01 | beandog | heh |
| 22:14.28 | mindjuju | oh |
| 22:14.30 | mindjuju | my |
| 22:14.32 | mindjuju | gosh |
| 22:14.43 | beandog | mindjuju, whats wrong |
| 22:15.10 | mindjuju | influx is right, the guy from hackers is the guy from short circuit, but wwhat takes this to the absoulte next level |
| 22:15.19 | beandog | mindjuju, heh, you didnt know that? |
| 22:15.22 | mindjuju | is he's also plays in nearly one of my fav movies of all times |
| 22:15.26 | mindjuju | My Science Project |
| 22:15.27 | beandog | whats that |
| 22:15.33 | beandog | what movie is that?/ |
| 22:15.34 | mindjuju | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089652/ |
| 22:15.42 | mindjuju | i LOVE this movie |
| 22:16.03 | macnewbold | the "indian" haha |
| 22:16.04 | macnewbold | yeah |
| 22:16.09 | beandog | what the heck? |
| 22:16.41 | mindjuju | my science project is an awesome movie about a UFO crash that's coered up and the ship is buried in an air force plane graveyard |
| 22:16.48 | mindjuju | where years later, this teen guy finds it |
| 22:17.04 | macnewbold | i always mix up "my science project" with "weird science" for some reason |
| 22:17.05 | mindjuju | but he's a car nut, not a techy guy and just pulls a cool part for his science project |
| 22:17.20 | mindjuju | and of course, he has to save the day |
| 22:17.25 | mindjuju | it's an absolutely amazing movie |
| 22:17.28 | mindjuju | <3 |
| 22:17.41 | beandog | mindjuju, wow |
| 22:17.44 | beandog | never heard of it. |
| 22:18.19 | mindjuju | oh no |
| 22:18.21 | mindjuju | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1633354/ |
| 22:18.27 | mindjuju | how depressing |
| 22:18.35 | beandog | lol |
| 22:20.18 | beandog | I never saw the original |
| 22:20.43 | SunSparc | They are remaking Real Genius? Why? |
| 22:20.54 | SunSparc | lame |
| 22:21.00 | mindjuju | because, crapyWood is out of ideas |
| 22:21.21 | mindjuju | and anything that made a $ will be brought back out |
| 22:21.34 | fungus | Actually that's not the cause. |
| 22:21.46 | SunSparc | Sounds like it to me. |
| 22:21.50 | fungus | crappyWood has tons of ideas knocking on their door every day |
| 22:22.00 | beandog | They are just adverse to risk |
| 22:22.01 | fungus | They turn em all down |
| 22:22.11 | SunSparc | heh, yeah, that makes sense |
| 22:22.12 | fungus | Primarily because remakes make big bucks. |
| 22:22.36 | fungus | Don't blame hollywood for remakes, blame the people who go see them. |
| 22:22.50 | mindjuju | Sunsparc - look at this if you dare - http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/paramount/greasesingalong/ |
| 22:23.07 | mindjuju | nto that it was good the first time |
| 22:23.40 | mindjuju | the commercial is hilarious, they've obviously cleaned the lyrics up to be able to come close to pass this as a "family" movie |
| 22:23.41 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:24.18 | fungus | hollywood is expert at predicting what will make tons of money, they've been in the business for decades. |
| 22:24.32 | mindjuju | psh posh |
| 22:24.33 | influx | I wonder if a remake of the adaptation of West Side Story would do well today. |
| 22:24.45 | mindjuju | MGM is going out of bidness |
| 22:25.12 | fungus | mindjuju, you want to see new stories, new ideas. Go to the independent theaters. |
| 22:25.15 | DexterTheDragon | except for the people who decided to make g-force and live action chipmunks, etc |
| 22:25.28 | fungus | Like The Tower, and Broadway |
| 22:25.30 | beandog | fungus, that doesnt explain all the crap |
| 22:25.41 | fungus | yes it does. |
| 22:25.53 | fungus | well all the big hollywood crap |
| 22:26.01 | fungus | the rest of the crap is just long tail garbage |
| 22:26.52 | beandog | Hmm |
| 22:27.04 | beandog | Although its harder to find good stuff |
| 22:27.06 | fungus | That is the other factor in the demise of hollywood. |
| 22:27.09 | beandog | you have to wade through more crap to find gold |
| 22:27.17 | fungus | long tails and the proliferation of movies everywhere |
| 22:27.48 | fungus | back in the '50s you only had 1 or 2 choices of movies. |
| 22:28.00 | fungus | today we have hundreds, and that's just theaters. |
| 22:30.18 | fungus | all these facts doesn't mean movies are worse than before at all. |
| 22:30.31 | fungus | They just mean it's harder to find the real gems. |
| 22:30.43 | fungus | But those gems are absolutely fantastic. |
| 22:31.05 | beandog | fungus, *exactly* |
| 22:31.33 | beandog | which is why my netflix success rate hovers around 3% |
| 22:31.50 | beandog | but I'd still watch the 100 crappy movies again for those 3 gems. |
| 22:31.51 | beandog | :) |
| 22:32.27 | fungus | 3%? that is sad. |
| 22:32.39 | fungus | I hover about %60 |
| 22:32.47 | beandog | fungus, well I'm way pickier than you |
| 22:32.49 | beandog | and everyone else |
| 22:33.27 | beandog | fungus, besides, I add *anything* to my queue that looks even remotely interesting |
| 22:33.28 | fungus | but I tend to read the reviews of trusted critics. |
| 22:33.48 | beandog | fungus, ah, see, i take shotgun approach |
| 22:34.00 | beandog | it's a movie? there's drama? great! lets watch it. |
| 22:34.09 | fungus | hehe |
| 22:34.25 | beandog | fungus, did you ever watch over the edge? |
| 22:34.28 | beandog | I wanna see that one again. |
| 22:34.35 | fungus | heh, still in the Q |
| 22:34.42 | fungus | oh wait, no that one came |
| 22:34.46 | fungus | I did see it. |
| 22:34.59 | fungus | crazy teenagers take over the town? |
| 22:35.01 | beandog | whatd you think |
| 22:35.02 | beandog | yah |
| 22:35.13 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ereen__ld8g |
| 22:35.16 | fungus | it was really interesting |
| 22:35.45 | fungus | not fantastic as a movie, but a wonderful insight into the minds of adults in those days |
| 22:35.55 | beandog | fungus, agreed |
| 22:36.00 | beandog | not great |
| 22:36.02 | beandog | certainly unique |
| 22:37.01 | beandog | the trailer makes it look totally psycho |
| 22:37.10 | fungus | lol, but it's not. |
| 22:37.13 | beandog | it's not at all |
| 22:37.20 | beandog | the kids were totally justified |
| 22:37.35 | fungus | beandog, have you seen Elephant? |
| 22:37.42 | beandog | fungus, noooooooooooo, I want to |
| 22:37.45 | fungus | kinda along the same lines, but more current |
| 22:37.53 | fungus | a lot more psycho too |
| 22:37.58 | beandog | gus van sant right? |
| 22:38.02 | fungus | yup |
| 22:38.05 | beandog | man |
| 22:38.10 | beandog | theres a director that is ALL OVER the map |
| 22:38.17 | fungus | yeah, no kidding |
| 22:38.21 | beandog | well, he doesn't go that far, but still |
| 22:38.23 | beandog | he is diverse |
| 22:38.54 | beandog | anyone who can make "even cowgirls get the blues" and "good will hunting" at least needs to be investigated |
| 22:39.31 | fungus | don't forget My Own Private Idaho, with Keanu as a hooker |
| 22:40.14 | beandog | aye |
| 22:40.16 | beandog | craziness. |
| 22:40.27 | fungus | great movie though |
| 22:41.14 | beandog | wow he did paranoid park?? |
| 22:41.15 | beandog | freak. |
| 22:41.21 | fungus | just wrote that one |
| 22:41.33 | fungus | oh no, he directed too |
| 22:41.44 | fungus | that was really interesting too |
| 22:42.59 | fungus | anyway I have strong feelings about people blaming "hollywood" for bad movies. |
| 22:43.46 | fungus | When Transformers 2 makes craploads of money, and the salt lake film society has a hard time keeping the doors open |
| 22:43.53 | unum | I blame all of you for watching them :p |
| 22:44.13 | fungus | That said, I'm still gonna see Eclipse |
| 22:44.18 | unum | twilight is utah's fault |
| 22:44.31 | beandog | alright, Im outties |
| 22:44.36 | beandog | fungus, gotta compare movie collections someday |
| 22:44.39 | redroy | unum, hilarious |
| 22:44.48 | unum | my fiance's sister really wanted my fiance to watch new moon |
| 22:44.53 | beandog | seeya guys |
| 22:45.10 | fungus | The books are way better |
| 22:45.23 | fungus | well, except for New Moon |
| 22:45.38 | unum | I rather not be exposed to any of it :) |
| 22:46.09 | fungus | condensing the 7 or 8 chapter teenage brooding into a montage was a good idea |
| 22:46.10 | mindjuju | i actually have togo home early today cause my wife has tickets to see it early |
| 22:46.17 | mindjuju | not midnight, 7p showing |
| 22:46.40 | fungus | woot |
| 22:48.47 | orsonj | anyone here have experience running a remote syslogd |
| 22:49.18 | fungus | really simple |
| 22:49.29 | fungus | enable remote reception |
| 22:49.35 | fungus | shoot logs at it |
| 22:49.54 | orsonj | That's what I thought, perhaps I have some goofy firewall messing with things. |
| 22:50.23 | fungus | udp 514 IIRC |
| 22:50.36 | orsonj | yeah, that's what I was reading |
| 22:51.06 | fungus | but by default most syslog daemons don't listen by default |
| 22:51.10 | fungus | you have to enable it |
| 22:51.34 | fungus | `netstat -pnul` to verify it's listening |
| 22:54.26 | orsonj | ah, yes, I put the wrong ip in the firewall |
| 22:54.29 | orsonj | thanks for listening |
| 22:54.49 | orsonj | problem with routers is they have multiple IPs |
| 22:55.19 | influx | home |
| 22:56.02 | orsonj | no, you need to do Ctrl-Home. |
| 22:56.06 | fungus | it's broken |
| 22:56.12 | fungus | i'm still here |
| 22:56.26 | orsonj | and dump some specific brand ice tea in your keyboard first. |
| 22:56.37 | fungus | still here. :( |
| 22:56.54 | fungus | hmm, no iced tea here. only Coke |
| 22:57.03 | fungus | bummer, i'll do it hte hard way |
| 22:57.08 | orsonj | http://www.hulu.com/ctrl |
| 22:57.22 | fungus | lol, love that show |
