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| 07:04.53 | mindjuju | anybody around? |
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| 15:16.47 | Utah_Dave | ~tunafart mindjuju |
| 15:16.48 | ibot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 15:18.59 | influx | >< |
| 15:41.12 | mindjuju | thx utah_dave |
| 15:41.26 | mindjuju | you don't happen to do c++ do you? |
| 15:41.35 | Utah_Dave | just a little wakeup call to get you going in the morning, mindjuju! :) |
| 15:41.51 | Utah_Dave | No, I don't do c++. I have a buddy who does though |
| 15:42.12 | mindjuju | k, cause pointers in c++ are kicking my butt far worse than freebsd did |
| 15:43.22 | Utah_Dave | that's why I don't do c++ |
| 15:43.42 | mindjuju | ~apb carmony |
| 15:43.43 | ibot | ACTION summons baby Lyssa to spray mace at carmony |
| 15:45.14 | influx | That is not very nice, mister juju. |
| 15:45.36 | mindjuju | :) |
| 15:45.40 | influx | :] |
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| 15:48.26 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: I think tierra does c++ |
| 15:53.06 | mindjuju | tierra, when you have a moment, have c++ question |
| 15:55.00 | utahcon | good morning UPHPU! |
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| 15:55.12 | mindjuju | utahcon, don't go back to sleep! |
| 15:55.16 | mindjuju | nned to talk! |
| 15:56.40 | utahcon | ok no sleepy |
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| 16:34.03 | macnewbold | mindjuju: you get your c++ working? |
| 16:36.57 | mindjuju | no |
| 16:37.06 | mindjuju | macnewbold^^ |
| 16:43.38 | macnewbold | i used to do some c++ years ago |
| 16:43.41 | macnewbold | pointers you say? |
| 16:44.10 | mindjuju | yeah, i've been beat into humility |
| 16:45.20 | mindjuju | i asked a friend for help tht i know knows and he said pointers can be hard, and left it at that, the ##c++ chan, i logged in and watched and waited for a few minutes to see what the rules were |
| 16:45.33 | mindjuju | another college tudent came in and they SHREADED him to little itty bitty bits |
| 16:45.57 | mindjuju | maybe C++ is the biker gang of programming? |
| 16:46.24 | jtsnow | mindjuju: what question do you have about pointers? |
| 16:47.32 | mindjuju | well, so i'm taking a c++ class at UVU, and our assignment has us make a tokenizer |
| 16:47.54 | mindjuju | so they pass in a c-style string and a delimiter and I return the pointer of where the next token should be |
| 16:48.46 | mindjuju | the sad thing is, i can't even get it to work on a fundamental level so that I can even attempt |
| 16:49.05 | macnewbold | ah |
| 16:49.14 | mindjuju | the assignment before this wehre we were manipulating a cstyle string, that I could do, but this?? |
| 16:49.16 | macnewbold | so c-style strings, is basically an array of chars |
| 16:49.22 | mindjuju | yup |
| 16:49.22 | macnewbold | which means generally 1 byte each |
| 16:49.30 | macnewbold | so to get the pointer to the next token, |
| 16:49.38 | mindjuju | so let's say you do this |
| 16:50.00 | macnewbold | once you know how many chars are in the token, and how much whitespace, |
| 16:50.09 | macnewbold | the new pointer is found with math. |
| 16:50.26 | macnewbold | for example, if str[0] is the token, and str[9] is the start of the next token, |
| 16:50.29 | jtsnow | yup... a pointer is just an integer |
| 16:50.33 | mindjuju | yeah, in theory, you increment the pointer |
| 16:50.42 | macnewbold | str + 9 is the new pointer |
| 16:51.16 | macnewbold | but in general, (array base ptr) + offset * (bytes per array entry) |
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| 17:02.57 | eggyknap | watch out if you start using multibyte encodings |
| 17:12.18 | SunSparc | You might get bit. |
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| 17:37.32 | Utah_Dave | ~bite mindjuju |
| 17:37.33 | ibot | ACTION takes a big bite out of mindjuju's jugular vein |
| 17:48.01 | Utah_Dave | For the first time in my life I just wrote a select query with a LEFT JOIN in mysql and it just worked. Now it's time for lunch |
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| 18:25.04 | macnewbold | i <3 left join |
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| 18:36.32 | supernovia | hola :) |
| 18:42.38 | mindjuju | somedays, i swear, work feels like the tea party in Alice in Wonderland |
| 18:42.54 | mindjuju | it just gets madder and madder |
| 18:42.54 | supernovia | in the new one or the old one? |
| 18:43.01 | mindjuju | haven't seen new |
| 18:43.02 | supernovia | or the book :-p |
| 18:43.06 | supernovia | Me neither. |
| 18:43.29 | supernovia | s/Me neither/Neither have I/ |
| 18:58.18 | mgeary | anyone have a good one-liner for concatenating 50 text files into one file? |
| 18:58.33 | mgeary | i guess cat * > ../outfile.txt might work... |
| 19:01.10 | mgeary | yep |
| 19:01.35 | supernovia | w00t. |
| 19:02.45 | macnewbold | mindjuju: is it the usual suspects getting madder, or are there new people going mad too? |
| 19:05.23 | mindjuju | usual suspects |
| 19:06.09 | mindjuju | but you know, "I don't want to be among mad people"\ |
| 19:09.58 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 19:10.00 | macnewbold | oh boy |
| 19:11.35 | mgeary | hey, has anyone here ever used mysqlbinlog to restore data from a mysql binary log? |
| 19:13.09 | macnewbold | mgeary: yeah, it's totally handy |
| 19:13.55 | mgeary | macnewbold: do you know how to get it to NOT issue any drop database/drop table commands? |
| 19:14.06 | macnewbold | important thing to remember is when you're trying to recover from a bad statement (drop table, drop database, etc.), don't run the whole log back in |
| 19:14.08 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 19:14.09 | macnewbold | :) |
| 19:14.14 | mgeary | yeah |
| 19:14.17 | mgeary | weird thing is-- |
| 19:14.27 | macnewbold | mgeary: one way is grep -v, another way is save the output to a file and filter it after that |
| 19:14.36 | mgeary | i even ran the tool output through grep looking for drop statements, and didn't get ANY results |
| 19:14.40 | macnewbold | hm |
| 19:14.48 | mgeary | so i found myself wondering if it was some other syntax somehow |
| 19:14.50 | macnewbold | grep -i even? |
| 19:14.57 | macnewbold | truncate is almost as evil as drop, |
| 19:14.58 | mgeary | hrm |
| 19:15.00 | macnewbold | but delete can be too |
| 19:16.08 | macnewbold | so are you starting from a backup that coincides with the start of the binlog? |
| 19:16.59 | mgeary | yeah, basically |
| 19:17.11 | mgeary | but i think you have be correct about my not using -i |
| 19:17.13 | mgeary | checking that now |
| 19:18.15 | mgeary | yep |
| 19:18.16 | mgeary | found it |
| 19:18.34 | mgeary | so i'm thinking i run the output through "grep -v DROP DATABASE" and pipe that then to mysql |
| 19:22.09 | SunSparc | Paraguay 1 - Italy 0 |
| 19:23.46 | macnewbold | SunSparc: final? |
| 19:24.04 | supernovia | PoeticIntensity: ping :) |
| 19:24.09 | SunSparc | macnewbold: Half |
| 19:24.10 | macnewbold | mgeary: watch the quoting on the grep - escape or quote the space or it won't do what you intend |
| 19:24.17 | mgeary | quoted it |
| 19:24.39 | macnewbold | SunSparc: nice... i'm cheering for USA and Argentina, and expecting that Brazil will do really well, and probably spain |
| 19:25.22 | SunSparc | Right on. :) |
| 19:30.12 | mindjuju | supernovia, congrats! |
| 19:30.22 | supernovia | Thanks mindjuju :-D |
| 19:31.56 | mindjuju | you going to celebrate? |
| 19:32.13 | supernovia | Yeah! I don't know how |
| 19:32.18 | supernovia | I took a nap though, that was nice! |
| 19:32.36 | supernovia | and I think my parents are taking me out to dinner, and a bunch of girls want to take me out to lunch |
| 19:32.48 | mindjuju | awesome! |
| 19:32.58 | mindjuju | you go!, 1 step atta time! |
| 19:33.33 | supernovia | For real |
| 19:34.20 | supernovia | for you non-facebookers |
| 19:34.53 | herlo | supernovia: ^^ |
| 19:34.56 | supernovia | sounds like a strange thing to celebrate but yeah, I'm happy :) |
| 19:34.58 | supernovia | Thanks herlo :) |
| 19:35.30 | herlo | relief is a better word than celebrate, if you ask me |
| 19:36.16 | supernovia | I've got that, for sure. We'll still find a way to celebrate too though. It's a happy day here. |
| 19:36.55 | mindjuju | i forgot e3 is this week, have those dogs at valve said ANYTHING? |
| 19:37.04 | mindjuju | i hate cliffhangers |
| 19:37.06 | mindjuju | hate 'em |
| 19:39.11 | herlo | mindjuju: just don't pay attention, then it will not be a cliffhanger :) |
| 19:41.19 | supernovia | that's my strategy, herlo :) |
| 19:41.39 | herlo | supernovia: hehe |
| 19:45.52 | unum | I thought they said they weren't really announcing anything, because portal 2 was delayed |
| 19:46.08 | mindjuju | i was hoping it was a trick |
| 19:46.19 | mindjuju | and they were releasing HL 2:3, HL 3 |
| 19:46.56 | unum | I have a buddy there, I'll threaten to break his fingers until he tells me what's up |
| 19:56.25 | influx | Maybe if someone were your proxy. |
| 19:56.56 | influx | That said. I could pick up a freelance gig. |
| 19:57.08 | influx | Where does your friend live? |
| 19:57.36 | unum | seattle |
| 19:57.42 | unum | and he's fairly tough... |
| 20:05.04 | mindjuju | what data type should I store an IP in? |
| 20:05.06 | mindjuju | varchar? |
| 20:07.03 | SunSparc | Yes |
| 20:08.12 | mindjuju | sunsparc, what do you think about allowance for IP v6, prolly forgo until a later day when its implemented? |
| 20:08.41 | SunSparc | I would do IPv6 in varchar also. |
| 20:08.52 | SunSparc | They are not numbers. |
| 20:09.03 | herlo | they are hex |
| 20:09.09 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 20:09.14 | herlo | thus they are numbers |
| 20:09.20 | herlo | just a different base |
| 20:09.45 | SunSparc | Except there are no datatypes that handle hex based, and they are separated values. |
| 20:10.23 | SunSparc | Unless you store each set as a different column |
| 20:10.41 | SunSparc | Then you would have to treat IPv6 differently. |
| 20:11.06 | SunSparc | Probably depends on your needs though, but I would say varchar is going to be the best/easiest. |
| 20:11.24 | mindjuju | i think i'll setup for IP v4 now, and v6 when it comes out, because i don't think mixing v4 and v6 in the same field would be good idea |
| 20:12.01 | herlo | v6 is iout :) |
| 20:12.13 | herlo | s/io/o/ |
| 20:12.56 | mindjuju | ok ok :) |
| 20:13.30 | herlo | it's 64bit iirc |
| 20:14.11 | herlo | actually it's 128 bit |
| 20:15.03 | mindjuju | looks like in special circumstance it could be 46, otherwise 45, so i'm going 46 |
| 20:16.45 | herlo | mindjuju: just note, anywhere there's a :: it really means :0000: |
| 20:17.40 | herlo | but it could be expanded to much longer |
| 20:17.52 | herlo | could be :0000:0000:0000: for example |
| 20:18.11 | herlo | but it always fits in 128 bits |
| 20:18.26 | mindjuju | so what var length do you think? |
| 20:20.05 | herlo | mindjuju: from http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1924 |
| 20:20.52 | SunSparc | Tie game. Italy Paraguay |
| 20:20.53 | herlo | http://fpaste.org/rVei/ |
| 20:20.59 | herlo | mindjuju: ^^ |
| 20:21.44 | mindjuju | cool! thx! |
| 20:22.50 | herlo | np |
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| 20:24.39 | influx | boooo |
| 20:26.45 | SunSparc | Hey, don't boo _psychic_ influx. |
| 20:28.08 | influx | hahaha |
| 20:28.18 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:28.19 | influx | I was booing the match score. |
| 20:28.30 | SunSparc | Who were you rooting for? |
| 20:29.54 | SunSparc | I did not really have a favorite. They both played well. |
| 20:30.32 | influx | U.S.A. |
| 20:30.47 | influx | >.> <.< |
| 20:30.54 | influx | Actually, neither. |
| 20:31.06 | influx | I'm rooting for Mexico/U.S.A. |
| 20:31.33 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:31.58 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJaEVmbzXSA |
| 20:33.31 | carmony | omg... |
| 20:33.34 | influx | wut |
| 20:33.50 | carmony | a server that handles normally 500-800 connections per second |
| 20:33.55 | carmony | is now at 6000 persecond |
| 20:34.01 | mindjuju | what?? |
| 20:34.12 | carmony | had to do a mad rush |
| 20:34.22 | carmony | to optimize the bottlenecks |
| 20:35.04 | mindjuju | that reminds me of something |
| 20:35.05 | carmony | now its handling it well |
| 20:35.37 | carmony | crazy PC gamers... this site is doing an exclusive give away for League of Legends... |
| 20:36.09 | mindjuju | ~wiki league of legends |
| 20:37.22 | carmony | we're having roughly 100-200 new user signups PER MINUTE |
| 20:37.34 | carmony | actually, its more like 300-500 |
| 20:37.36 | mindjuju | that's awesome! congrats! |
| 20:39.03 | influx | Yowza. |
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| 20:42.21 | herlo | carmony: did you just launch something?? |
| 20:43.31 | carmony | yeah... |
| 20:43.44 | carmony | its an exclusive in-game item give away |
| 20:46.20 | carmony | http://www.alienwarearena.com/event/lol-giveaway/ |
| 20:47.37 | macnewbold | mindjuju: some like to store IP addresses in integer form in the db - a 4-byte integer holds IPv4 addresses, vs a 15-byte varchar |
| 20:47.47 | macnewbold | but the math is more of a pain |
| 20:52.12 | herlo | carmony: timed out on me the first time |
| 20:57.52 | herlo | carmony: wow, nice |
| 20:58.15 | carmony | lol |
| 20:58.18 | mindjuju | DtD, you around? |
| 20:58.25 | mindjuju | supernovia, you around? |
| 20:58.30 | supernovia | I'm a square |
| 20:58.41 | mindjuju | ah |
| 20:58.56 | mindjuju | so, we have ourselves a predictament, trying to figure out what to do |
| 20:59.11 | mindjuju | our June wants to move to July, and our July wants to move to august |
| 20:59.15 | mindjuju | for UPHPU meet |
| 20:59.19 | mindjuju | sooo |
| 20:59.25 | supernovia | Wooo |
| 20:59.28 | mindjuju | that leaves us no preso for Thurs |
| 20:59.39 | mindjuju | Soooo |
| 20:59.58 | mindjuju | we could just pick on somebody to present on part 2 of LoLcode |
| 21:00.11 | mindjuju | or high availability using Goto and ASCII |
| 21:00.15 | PoeticIntensity | I could talk about how to properly record a drum kit! |
| 21:00.20 | supernovia | but I'd be happy to show ya'll more design ideas |
| 21:00.22 | herlo | mindjuju: part 2 sounds like fun :) |
| 21:00.33 | supernovia | there we go, PoeticIntensity! |
| 21:00.38 | PoeticIntensity | ha! |
| 21:00.56 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... I'm sure the crowd would be ..... bored to tears. |
| 21:00.59 | PoeticIntensity | except mindjuju |
| 21:01.10 | mindjuju | i'd lvoe it! |
| 21:01.10 | beandog | lolcode? |
| 21:01.20 | Utah_Dave | I'd like to see supernovia's design ideas! |
| 21:01.30 | mindjuju | http://lolcode.com/ |
| 21:01.34 | mindjuju | beandog^^ |
| 21:01.48 | mindjuju | CAN HAS SQL? DBASE IZ GETDB('db/lcsn.db') FUNNAHS IZ DBUCKET(&DBASE&,"CAN I PLZ GET * ALL UP IN lollit") IM IN UR FUNNAHS ITZA TITLE VOTEZ IZ &TITLE#ups& - &TITLE#downs& |
| 21:01.52 | beandog | oh man |
| 21:01.54 | beandog | Im in love. |
| 21:02.12 | beandog | I HAS A VAR |
| 21:02.38 | mindjuju | i love how all requests are terminated with the KTHXBYE |
| 21:02.58 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 21:02.59 | PoeticIntensity | wouldn't it be KTHXBAI ? |
| 21:03.43 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:03.43 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, you're right |
| 21:03.45 | beandog | it's a trap! |
| 21:03.52 | PoeticIntensity | woot! |
| 21:03.56 | beandog | the death star is active! |
| 21:03.58 | beandog | run away! |
| 21:05.17 | supernovia | Those pesky I's! |
| 21:06.23 | beandog | wait, when is next meet? |
| 21:06.25 | mindjuju | k, so for June meet it's a toss up between LoLcode and HA Goto |
| 21:06.28 | beandog | do I have to wear a bathing suit? |
| 21:06.37 | beandog | garr, that reminds me ... I gotta send out mass-wide lagoon invite. |
| 21:06.38 | mindjuju | no, but you have to bring your towel |
| 21:06.45 | mindjuju | thursday is the next meet |
| 21:06.57 | supernovia | this Thursday, oy. |
| 21:07.00 | mindjuju | be sure to dip a corner of your towel in nutrients |
| 21:07.09 | beandog | supernovia, *this* thursday? |
| 21:07.10 | beandog | as in uh |
| 21:07.22 | beandog | the 17th? |
| 21:07.29 | beandog | wait, what day is today? |
| 21:07.30 | supernovia | I have RS |
| 21:07.31 | beandog | ~timewarp |
| 21:07.32 | ibot | Let's do the timewarp again! |
| 21:08.01 | mindjuju | supernovia, what's RS doing their activity on |
| 21:08.03 | herlo | beandog: the 14th |
| 21:08.07 | mindjuju | maybe we could join? |
| 21:08.12 | supernovia | There we go! |
| 21:08.17 | herlo | heh |
| 21:08.19 | supernovia | They're having dinner... |
| 21:08.27 | mindjuju | i'd love to learn how to hem |
| 21:08.32 | mindjuju | or, hey, even better! |
| 21:08.42 | beandog | Does it seem odd to anyone else that a bunch of married ladies would ... in their free time ... make *more* food? |
| 21:08.56 | mindjuju | k, all guys must shower and shave before RS dinner |
| 21:09.02 | mindjuju | combing hair optional |
| 21:09.12 | mindjuju | beard can be braided, is ok |
| 21:09.13 | beandog | mindjuju, always |
| 21:09.33 | mindjuju | k, supernovia, we're coming |
| 21:09.46 | mindjuju | and we could teach your friends LoLcode |
| 21:09.53 | supernovia | That .. would be awesome. |
| 21:09.54 | mindjuju | and HA Goto |
| 21:10.03 | supernovia | I can't even remember what the activity is. Oh yeah!! |
| 21:10.23 | supernovia | We're assembling hygiene kits and making blankets for newborns. |
| 21:10.54 | supernovia | once my brother braided his chest hair for halloween |
| 21:11.07 | supernovia | I think we did some fake braids too. it was rad. |
| 21:11.12 | mindjuju | combing hair or braided beard is relgious? |
| 21:11.14 | beandog | braid chest hair? |
| 21:11.15 | beandog | Oy. |
| 21:11.23 | supernovia | So gross it was awesome. |
| 21:11.33 | herlo | mindjuju: going to RS is religious... |
| 21:11.41 | mindjuju | braid chset hair? braid no, weave |
| 21:11.52 | mindjuju | oh man, if we can go to a pub for geek lunch, we can joke about RS |
| 21:11.59 | mindjuju | oh good |
| 21:12.03 | herlo | lol |
| 21:12.03 | mindjuju | twas all in fun |
| 21:12.05 | supernovia | overtons! |
| 21:12.13 | herlo | overtones!!! gah |
| 21:12.29 | beandog | lols |
| 21:12.35 | beandog | freudian slip? |
| 21:12.39 | mindjuju | k, sadly, i've got to split, going to go grovel before my C++ professor |
| 21:12.40 | supernovia | hehe |
| 21:12.54 | herlo | mindjuju: is your professor, Chuck Allison, by chance? |
| 21:12.58 | beandog | mindjuju, just ask him for some pointers, har har har |
| 21:13.08 | mindjuju | beandog, that's too funny |
| 21:13.15 | mindjuju | nope on chuck allison |
| 21:13.16 | herlo | if so, tell him I say 'hi' |
| 21:13.23 | mindjuju | it's dr. debry |
| 21:13.25 | herlo | mindjuju: boo, he's da best |
| 21:13.27 | mindjuju | good prof |
| 21:13.36 | mindjuju | he's fair |
| 21:13.40 | mindjuju | this is just hard |
| 21:13.47 | herlo | yeah |
| 21:13.54 | mindjuju | so as of right now though, the meet is STILL on for thursday |
| 21:14.02 | mindjuju | LoLcode and HA Goto |
| 21:14.09 | herlo | cool, I was planning on coming and learning HA Goto |
| 21:14.23 | mindjuju | carmony |
| 21:14.27 | supernovia | I think I'm gonna hang with the ladies. |
| 21:14.31 | mindjuju | k |
| 21:14.33 | supernovia | But I might come up to Applebees afterward |
| 21:15.02 | carmony | hrm? |
| 21:15.03 | carmony | :P |
| 21:15.11 | mindjuju | no ladies at UPHPU means we can all let out the paunch |
| 21:15.18 | mindjuju | carmony, we aren't having a real meet this month |
| 21:15.21 | beandog | mindjuju, sweet |
| 21:15.30 | mindjuju | so you don't have to bring a preso if you don't want to |
| 21:15.52 | mindjuju | but let me know if you our so i can setup the gear for a recording |
| 21:16.22 | carmony | I say we just do an off the air meetup where we can just chat and ask questions |
| 21:16.23 | carmony | :P |
| 21:16.47 | mindjuju | we could do that |
| 21:16.54 | mindjuju | k, i've got to split to go grovel |
| 21:16.57 | mindjuju | kthxbye |
| 21:17.11 | supernovia | see ya mindjuju! |
| 21:17.40 | mindjuju | oh man |
| 21:17.48 | mindjuju | before i go, i just had an idea |
| 21:17.54 | mindjuju | maybe UPHPU could be on bzflag? |
| 21:17.56 | mindjuju | FTW! |
| 21:18.02 | carmony | hah |
| 21:18.04 | carmony | a |
| 21:18.22 | mindjuju | kthxbye |
| 21:19.05 | herlo | lol |
| 21:28.02 | influx | four |
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| 23:58.08 | mgeary | well, Treeline Group is officially hiring |