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| 14:31.55 | mindjuju | wth |
| 14:33.18 | mindjuju | what is up with bluehost |
| 14:33.38 | utahcon | mindjuju: hosting problems? |
| 14:35.10 | mindjuju | yeah, i can't login to cpanel and when asking for status of server, i'm getting back that they are aware fof prob |
| 14:35.13 | mindjuju | ...sigh... |
| 14:35.45 | mindjuju | some of my better clients are there and one has already contacted me |
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| 14:49.41 | beandog | mindjuju, happy bday bro |
| 14:49.59 | mindjuju | thx beandog! |
| 14:50.11 | mindjuju | i see you had fun this weekend with webm |
| 14:50.13 | beandog | mindjuju, did you get any presents? |
| 14:50.21 | beandog | actually that was this morning. :D |
| 14:50.41 | beandog | ffmpeg has webm output support now (patch by google) |
| 14:50.52 | beandog | so ffmpeg -i foo -o bar.webm works |
| 14:50.56 | beandog | er, minus -o |
| 14:51.05 | mindjuju | yup, $100 from F-i-L (he's a nice guy), $100 from my wife and son and a gc for best buy |
| 14:51.12 | mindjuju | so i did well! |
| 14:51.15 | beandog | VP8 encoding is sooooo though |
| 14:51.25 | beandog | *slow |
| 14:51.26 | beandog | sheesh |
| 14:51.29 | beandog | mindjuju, right on man |
| 14:51.35 | beandog | mindjuju, what did you end up getting for your HDD? |
| 14:51.43 | mindjuju | what about playback performance? |
| 14:51.59 | beandog | mindjuju, choppy for HD. Needs hardware playback support |
| 14:52.15 | beandog | So H264 is still the way to go there. |
| 14:52.17 | mindjuju | i had to run over to best buy and grab a sata, it twas pricy, but i HAD to have it then |
| 14:52.20 | beandog | But HTML5 works on YouTube :D |
| 14:52.27 | mindjuju | that's what i hear |
| 14:53.11 | mindjuju | have you heard anything on HTML 5 video and streaming / secure streaming? |
| 14:53.44 | mindjuju | we can't change anythign over until we get real real-time streaming |
| 14:53.49 | beandog | mindjuju, not really .. I've never had much interest in streaming |
| 14:53.54 | beandog | I don't follow it |
| 14:53.54 | mindjuju | ah |
| 14:53.57 | jsmith | mindjuju: It's designed for real-time streaming |
| 14:54.03 | beandog | right ^^ |
| 14:54.11 | beandog | I know that much |
| 14:54.13 | mindjuju | curious, that's not what i've been reading |
| 14:54.15 | jsmith | mindjuju: It specifically sends a burst of data at the initial connection, then throttles back |
| 14:54.45 | mindjuju | was reading there are all kinds of hacks to try to get realtime (like live broadcast) working in HTML 5 video |
| 14:54.46 | jsmith | mindjuju: (so that you have enough buffered at the beginning to get started, but then essentially download just slightly faster than the playback rate) |
| 14:55.10 | jsmith | mindjuju: I know the Flumotion stuff is supposed to work really well w/ it now |
| 14:55.16 | beandog | Oh, HTML5 + streaming |
| 14:55.21 | beandog | I thought you meant WebM streaming |
| 14:55.40 | jsmith | Oh wait, I thought we were talking about WebM streaming too |
| 14:56.00 | jsmith | mindjuju: We are talking about WebM streaming (realtime), right? |
| 14:56.04 | mindjuju | oh sorry, I meant streaming with HTML 5 video capabilities as they are now |
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| 14:56.18 | mindjuju | haven't had a chance to see what vp8 adds to the picture |
| 14:56.53 | mindjuju | my concern is though, that i have propritery content in video and I need to safe guard it as much as possible |
| 14:57.01 | mindjuju | now i know i can't guard 100% |
| 14:57.04 | beandog | mindjuju, what do you mean |
| 14:57.15 | mindjuju | but I can make vDifficult for the layman to nab them |
| 14:57.28 | mindjuju | though the average techy can easily see around my roadblocks |
| 14:58.10 | mindjuju | beandog, not sure I follow your question |
| 14:58.24 | beandog | what does proprietary content in video mean |
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| 14:58.36 | mindjuju | ah, video isn't freely shared |
| 14:58.44 | mindjuju | you have to pay for access, you don't get to keep the video |
| 14:58.48 | beandog | Oh so you wanna make like no local copies? |
| 14:58.52 | mindjuju | right |
| 14:58.55 | beandog | Ah |
| 14:58.57 | beandog | Gortcha. |
| 14:58.57 | mindjuju | rtmp provides that |
| 14:59.05 | beandog | Well there are streaming protocols that require auth |
| 14:59.21 | mindjuju | pretty sure there aren't provisions in HTML 5 yet |
| 14:59.22 | beandog | but I dont know more than that. |
| 14:59.50 | beandog | mindjuju, just let it all free, man ... then you don't have to worry / waste time on it. :) |
| 15:00.04 | beandog | viva la revolucion |
| 15:00.13 | mindjuju | :) |
| 15:00.23 | supernovia | viva! |
| 15:00.56 | mindjuju | what a faker, my boss just called in sick |
| 15:01.46 | mindjuju | first he cuts my vacation short a day last week because of some week excuse |
| 15:01.57 | mindjuju | err, weak excuse |
| 15:03.14 | supernovia | or orange peels, maybe |
| 15:03.14 | mindjuju | i had .5 donut on donut day last week |
| 15:03.14 | supernovia | since that's what I've got :) and herlo likes em |
| 15:03.14 | beandog | I forgot my cookies today! |
| 15:03.14 | beandog | pooie. |
| 15:03.20 | supernovia | good job there mindjuju! |
| 15:03.31 | supernovia | I had a donut. it was not a tasty one! alas |
| 15:03.46 | supernovia | and then I _almost_ bought some of those raspberry filled powdered-sugar covered demons |
| 15:04.02 | supernovia | but I was by myself Friday and may well have eaten the whole box |
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| 15:04.29 | supernovia | those are good |
| 15:04.41 | supernovia | my super fave = croissant donuts from Macey's. Oy. |
| 15:05.48 | mindjuju | i'll have to look at those |
| 15:05.56 | mindjuju | ah fungus |
| 15:06.02 | mindjuju | have a question for ye |
| 15:06.07 | beandog | good morning fungus |
| 15:06.10 | fungus | What's up? |
| 15:06.30 | mindjuju | do you have an app for server alerts on your iphone? |
| 15:06.37 | mindjuju | or are youd oing SMS or email or something |
| 15:06.41 | fungus | SMS |
| 15:06.48 | mindjuju | gotcha |
| 15:06.54 | mindjuju | what app do you use to monitor |
| 15:07.01 | fungus | Nagios |
| 15:07.03 | mindjuju | seems like nagios does it,doesn't it? |
| 15:07.08 | mindjuju | yeah, i should look into that |
| 15:07.18 | mindjuju | awesome, kthx |
| 15:07.28 | fungus | really neat stuff. A bit complex, but well worth the effort. |
| 15:07.37 | supernovia | nagios reminds me of naugles |
| 15:07.44 | beandog | I like my server alerts to come in LOLspeak |
| 15:07.47 | mindjuju | naughty naughty |
| 15:07.49 | supernovia | lol' |
| 15:07.58 | beandog | "I just nom'd your hdd" |
| 15:07.59 | fungus | ~x es en naugles |
| 15:08.00 | supernovia | naughty? |
| 15:08.10 | mindjuju | err, whoops! wrong word |
| 15:08.11 | mindjuju | nm |
| 15:09.02 | beandog | ~morning mindjuju |
| 15:09.03 | ibot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping mindjuju in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
| 15:10.32 | beandog | Ooooooooookay |
| 15:12.32 | beandog | man, do you ever wonder if you missed a memo? |
| 15:12.36 | beandog | I'm the only one at work today |
| 15:12.50 | supernovia | wowsas beandog |
| 15:13.08 | supernovia | yeah I ate an orange. it was way jucier than i was expecting and kinda got all over me. |
| 15:13.13 | beandog | Maybe it's "Take Your Daughter Out For Donuts" day or something. |
| 15:13.18 | supernovia | so I couldn't respond. |
| 15:13.39 | supernovia | but yeah mindjuju: Naugles? That's what the Del Taco's used to be |
| 15:14.30 | supernovia | anyway, Imma going to go get to work :) have a good morning! |
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| 15:18.10 | mindjuju | i didn't know that about del taco, I thought you wrote nalgas not naugles |
| 15:18.30 | mindjuju | like i say i was looking too fast when I responded |
| 15:19.54 | mindjuju | influx, you around? |
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| 15:20.41 | fungus | ~x es en nalgas |
| 15:21.25 | mindjuju | fungus, i was just going to check with influx, but I'm like 95% positive it isn't a bad word, though some dictionaries online include it as one |
| 15:22.00 | fungus | according to UD its not so bad. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nalgas |
| 15:22.11 | fungus | Now, Culo might be bad though. |
| 15:23.01 | mindjuju | the reason ibot calls it rump is because it nalga is really talking about the cheek, so collectively its the rump |
| 15:24.20 | mindjuju | unfortunantly, nalga also appears to be an acroynm for National Association of Local Government Auditors |
| 15:24.29 | mindjuju | that's funny |
| 15:25.46 | supernovia | lol |
| 15:27.16 | Utah_Dave | yeah, nalga is the butt cheek |
| 15:27.31 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 16:05.22 | influx | Nalgas = butt(cheeks) |
| 16:05.34 | mindjuju | yeah, but is it a bad word? |
| 16:05.44 | influx | Not strictly bad; it's more silly than bad. |
| 16:05.50 | influx | In my opinion. |
| 16:05.53 | mindjuju | heh |
| 16:06.37 | influx | :) |
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| 16:07.07 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, you probably wouldn't say it from the pulpit, but your mom probably wouldn't slap you |
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| 16:36.48 | PoeticIntensity | beandog - I'm puttin' gentoo back on my laptop... |
| 16:36.50 | PoeticIntensity | wish me luck! |
| 16:37.41 | mindjuju | ||-->Public Service Announcement<--|| for those of you thinking about giving back to the community, Utah Open Source is a GREAT place to do service! To find out more, go to http://mail.utos.org/mailman/listinfo/volunteers |
| 16:37.54 | PoeticIntensity | awww shucks... |
| 16:37.56 | PoeticIntensity | thanks. |
| 16:38.01 | herlo | mindjuju: you rock!! |
| 16:38.19 | supernovia | :-D mindjuju & herlo |
| 16:38.32 | mindjuju | just plowing through emails, I abstracted myself from my email over the weekend |
| 16:38.35 | mindjuju | just enough to do homework |
| 16:38.42 | mindjuju | everything else, I took a small break from |
| 16:38.48 | mindjuju | a little FB on Sunday night |
| 16:42.40 | supernovia | you didn't do anything awesome yesterday mindjuju? |
| 16:43.01 | mindjuju | nah, just slowed the cadence down a little and did homework and took it easier |
| 16:43.11 | mindjuju | it was a nice breather |
| 16:47.05 | supernovia | bah humbug |
| 16:47.49 | mindjuju | uh, what's a cake dancer? |
| 16:47.51 | supernovia | but i hope it was a good day anyway |
| 16:47.56 | supernovia | I have _no idea_ |
| 16:48.03 | supernovia | I pictured the person who jumps out of a cake :-/ |
| 16:48.09 | mindjuju | ah yeah |
| 16:48.11 | mindjuju | good call |
| 16:48.27 | supernovia | I think my sis might be right though; hopefully she meant "cape" |
| 16:50.04 | mindjuju | that sounds much better |
| 16:50.06 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:57.44 | herlo | jsmith: ping |
| 16:58.53 | jsmith | herlo: pong |
| 16:59.01 | jsmith | herlo: Saw your email, will respond shortly :-) |
| 16:59.19 | herlo | jsmith: k, cool. thx, that is all |
| 16:59.31 | jsmith | herlo: In short, UDP 5060 for SIP signaling, and random UDP ports (typically between 10,000 and 40,000) for RTP audio |
| 17:30.23 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, rawk, good luck |
| 17:33.41 | Utah_Dave | PoeticIntensity: good luck! See you online in a few weeks. :) |
| 17:35.22 | beandog | must ... resist .. flame |
| 17:35.43 | beandog | Hey Utah_Dave Ive got a weird CI naming scheme question, if you have a sec .. |
| 17:35.52 | Utah_Dave | sure, what's up? |
| 17:35.59 | beandog | http://codeigniter.com/forums/viewthread/156827/ |
| 17:36.00 | beandog | ^^ |
| 17:37.18 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, what did you have on there |
| 17:38.52 | Utah_Dave | beandog: what do you mean by "sub_section" when you're talking about the URI's? |
| 17:39.11 | beandog | Utah_Dave, well, subsection relative to a section |
| 17:39.41 | Utah_Dave | What is a section in your app? |
| 17:39.57 | beandog | Let's say .. categories => products |
| 17:40.04 | beandog | section => subsection in that regard |
| 17:40.12 | beandog | so subsection would be category_products |
| 17:40.20 | beandog | which is how I've started doing it |
| 17:40.26 | beandog | instead of categories/products |
| 17:40.32 | beandog | where products would be a controller function |
| 17:41.19 | Utah_Dave | OK, well, you could have a a uri that's something like this: http://ci/index.php/product/section/11 |
| 17:41.25 | beandog | Utah_Dave, I was just wondering what othere people normally did |
| 17:42.42 | Utah_Dave | That's generally what I do. I tend to keep all method regarding a subject together in the same controller. |
| 17:42.59 | beandog | Hmm, okay |
| 17:43.05 | Utah_Dave | for example, in my app I do at work, we have stats, evals, etc |
| 17:43.15 | Utah_Dave | so I have a stats controller and an evals controller. |
| 17:43.43 | Utah_Dave | But really, CI is pretty flexible to do it however you want. |
| 17:45.29 | beandog | Ok |
| 17:45.36 | beandog | thx bro |
| 17:45.45 | Utah_Dave | anytime! |
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| 18:05.52 | macnewbold | you have one?! |
| 18:05.52 | utahcon | battery life numbers are the bomb though |
| 18:06.01 | utahcon | macnewbold: they are just announcing it |
| 18:06.13 | macnewbold | i know, but how'd you get one so fast?! |
| 18:08.49 | macnewbold | just don't get sued like that other guy |
| 18:10.10 | macnewbold | he found an iphone prototype and got in big trouble |
| 18:10.37 | utahcon | lol |
| 18:10.47 | utahcon | yeah and Gizmodo didn't get into WWDC because of it |
| 18:11.06 | mindjuju | i thought they had live coverage? |
| 18:11.51 | utahcon | they are pulling from other Live Blogs |
| 18:12.31 | mindjuju | have they said anything about iphone dev and MS Visual studio? |
| 18:12.37 | mindjuju | i heard they were doing something with balmer |
| 18:13.04 | mindjuju | utahcon, where are you tapping a feed from? |
| 18:13.06 | utahcon | mindjuju: not yet |
| 18:13.12 | utahcon | mindjuju: engadget |
| 18:13.18 | utahcon | http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/07/steve-jobs-live-from-wwdc-2010/?sort=newest&refresh=60 |
| 18:13.24 | utahcon | it's a live blog |
| 18:13.36 | utahcon | Apple doesn't do vid stream |
| 18:13.55 | mindjuju | wasn't leo doing live stream last year though? |
| 18:14.27 | utahcon | mindjuju: it was not great |
| 18:15.23 | utahcon | iPhone OS is being rebranded as iOS |
| 18:15.25 | utahcon | :( |
| 18:15.38 | macnewbold | doesn't cisco already have that? |
| 18:15.43 | macnewbold | minus the capitalization? |
| 18:15.53 | utahcon | macnewbold: yes |
| 18:16.28 | macnewbold | bad move by apple then,imho |
| 18:19.03 | macnewbold | at least it isn't eEverything anymore. that drove me nuts. |
| 18:19.10 | macnewbold | maybe they'll move from iStuff to uStuff |
| 18:19.26 | macnewbold | or mStuff since we're all mobile now |
| 18:19.34 | macnewbold | but apparently can't get our wifi to work |
| 18:21.25 | utahcon | lamest announcement at WWDC (so far): Farmville on iPhone |
| 18:21.29 | utahcon | oops |
| 18:21.32 | utahcon | sorry iOS |
| 18:21.34 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 18:22.05 | macnewbold | wait till you hear about iAd |
| 18:22.10 | macnewbold | lamest announcement ever |
| 18:23.22 | mindjuju | i thought youwere kidding |
| 18:24.55 | utahcon | I have known about iAd |
| 18:25.19 | utahcon | In my gut it really irks me that both Google and Apple launched app platforms for their OSes. |
| 18:25.37 | utahcon | Because the OS shouldn't give a damn about the ad placement/features in an app |
| 18:25.42 | utahcon | just my opinion |
| 18:26.46 | utahcon | on the other hand |
| 18:26.46 | utahcon | it does make making money on free apps easier |
| 18:26.47 | utahcon | but still makes me mad |
| 18:28.33 | utahcon | "The only way you'll be able to get one of these is through this ad on the iPhone. So if you want to get a Leaf you need to get an iPhone" -- complete lies! |
| 18:28.48 | utahcon | I sure hope that was meant as a joke |
| 18:29.26 | utahcon | "Steve is showing off interactivity with ads. Pretty cool, if you want to interact with a car ad." -- Engadget |
| 18:29.49 | utahcon | I personally think more time/money will be spent on ads that are all too often ignored. |
| 18:32.22 | macnewbold | yeah, it will mature like web ads did |
| 18:32.53 | mindjuju | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/10168684.stm |
| 18:32.55 | mindjuju | wow |
| 18:33.11 | utahcon | I would hope (and I know better) that these developers won't cram tons of stupid video before your game games into the market. |
| 18:34.39 | mindjuju | that's why ATT made data plan MORE expensive |
| 18:34.43 | mindjuju | the dawgs |
| 18:34.49 | utahcon | mindjuju: they are bastards |
| 18:34.56 | utahcon | although the demo is wifi... |
| 18:35.00 | utahcon | maybe wifi only? |
| 18:35.10 | utahcon | if so there will be plenty of people annoyed by it |
| 18:36.33 | mindjuju | yup, wifi only |
| 18:37.03 | utahcon | fail |
| 18:37.54 | utahcon | "We made a little video to show some of the ways people might use it." -- I have a startup for a new... adult entertainment venture.. anyone wanna throw some money at it |
| 18:38.39 | utahcon | here's the concept... |
| 18:38.46 | beandog | interactive ad ... |
| 18:38.48 | utahcon | well... |
| 18:38.50 | utahcon | maybe not here... |
| 18:38.58 | utahcon | ask me in a PM and I will throw it out |
| 18:38.59 | utahcon | lol |
| 18:38.59 | beandog | if there was any choice involved, I would choose zero activity |
| 18:39.20 | mindjuju | that's fake |
| 18:39.30 | beandog | how long befor theres an iadblock |
| 18:39.32 | mindjuju | ASL over the iphone? |
| 18:39.43 | mindjuju | ASL requires 2 hands |
| 18:39.49 | utahcon | beandog: never! Because it would have to be approved through Apple |
| 18:40.01 | beandog | utahcon, rly? man that sucks |
| 18:40.02 | utahcon | mindjuju: not all ASL |
| 18:40.03 | utahcon | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:40.12 | beandog | utahcon, can you setup proxy stuff? |
| 18:40.44 | mindjuju | don't get me wrong, there are plenty of hand gestures that only require 1 hand, but |
| 18:41.07 | mindjuju | ~flip utahcon |
| 18:41.08 | ibot | ACTION gives utahcon the .|.. ..|. |
| 18:41.13 | mindjuju | see, 2 hands! |
| 18:41.36 | utahcon | that conveys in 1 hand form too |
| 18:41.46 | utahcon | beandog: Proxy the built in ad platform... |
| 18:42.02 | beandog | meh |
| 18:42.12 | beandog | I dont want a smartphone if all the stuff is locked down |
| 18:42.17 | beandog | it's like AOL all over again. |
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| 18:42.27 | utahcon | beandog: Apple is worse than AOL |
| 18:42.34 | utahcon | except they aren't AOL so they are better. |
| 18:43.13 | mindjuju | with the telcoms, no doubt |
| 18:43.17 | mindjuju | i hate data plans |
| 18:43.36 | fungus | mindjuju, did you hear about AT&T's new data plans. much cheaper... |
| 18:44.09 | utahcon | fungus: cheaper, but not unlimited |
| 18:44.16 | fungus | true. |
| 18:44.28 | fungus | But I pulled my data usage history, and I have never been over 200M |
| 18:44.48 | utahcon | fungus: you are doing it wrong |
| 18:44.58 | fungus | lol, i'm on wifi a lot |
| 18:45.06 | utahcon | wifi = wrong |
| 18:45.31 | beandog | AT&T = the man |
| 18:45.36 | utahcon | Apple does it right... 3GS and iPod Touch get iOS 4 free! |
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| 18:46.13 | utahcon | beandog: you mean The Man -- capitalization infers the evil "Man" instead of just a man |
| 18:46.15 | fungus | wow, I thought they had to charge for the touch for legal reasons |
| 18:46.25 | beandog | utahcon, oh okay, I was wondering about that. |
| 18:46.28 | fungus | they must've fixed that |
| 18:46.42 | beandog | ~utahcon++ |
| 18:46.54 | utahcon | fungus: They are Apple... their fix was to kill the patent owner... or they gave them a lot of iPod Touches |
| 18:49.07 | utahcon | at which point they were like... oh an the upgrade on that is $$... the patent owner was like "Oh hey, how's about free?" |
| 18:49.17 | utahcon | so is that all they are announcing today... |
| 18:49.19 | utahcon | weak |
| 18:49.44 | beandog | One this is for sure .. they certainly know how to keep their name in the press (for free) |
| 18:50.11 | Utah_Dave | Hey, what was that bash command to answer questions from other command line programs? |
| 18:50.33 | beandog | Utah_Dave, yes? |
| 18:50.34 | macnewbold | yes? |
| 18:50.44 | Utah_Dave | I need to feed scp a password in a script. I know, I should use keys, but that's not an option in this situation |
| 18:50.48 | Utah_Dave | Oh, cool. Thanks |
| 18:50.49 | macnewbold | ah |
| 18:51.02 | macnewbold | Utah_Dave: you might be able to do it with expect |
| 18:51.05 | macnewbold | or soemthing like it |
| 18:51.08 | fungus | expect |
| 18:52.47 | mindjuju | if i had to decide between google and apple, i choose google |
| 18:52.55 | mindjuju | any day of the week, and twice on thursdays |
| 18:53.04 | Utah_Dave | macnewbold or fungus: could you share a simple example of using yes or expect? |
| 18:53.22 | utahcon | fungus: ... HackADay.com -- Block reason: "Hacking/Proxy avoidance Systems" -- I am sure by the word "hack" |
| 18:53.27 | fungus | yes just spews the letter y. kind of like /dev/zero |
| 18:53.46 | utahcon | yes can be told to spew any string of characters |
| 18:53.49 | fungus | expect is almost a whole scripting language |
| 18:55.59 | Utah_Dave | so if I want to send a password to scp would it be something like this? yes 'mypass' | scp ./myfile.txt admin@myhost:/var/www/ |
| 18:56.35 | mindjuju | poor steve -- http://gizmodo.com/5557458/watch-the-steve-jobs-keynote-meltdown |
| 18:57.02 | jsmith | mindjuju: All the Apple fanboys (and girls) can get back to work now :-p |
| 18:57.14 | fungus | Utah_Dave, can't you setup keys for authentication? much easier. |
| 18:57.28 | fungus | I've never used yes for that. Only expect. |
| 18:57.30 | mindjuju | i was interested to see if apple and c# were going to work together |
| 18:57.41 | herlo | supernovia: :) |
| 18:57.52 | supernovia | :-D |
| 18:57.53 | herlo | supernovia: that's from this morning |
| 18:57.54 | beandog | man |
| 18:57.59 | supernovia | I figured as much. |
| 18:57.59 | beandog | FB's privacy stuff creeps me out. |
| 18:58.17 | supernovia | can you just lock everything down? |
| 18:58.29 | mindjuju | privacy does not exist on the internet |
| 18:58.34 | Utah_Dave | fungus: I have to use a username on one box that I don't have on the current box. Can I still use keys? |
| 18:58.52 | fungus | of course |
| 18:59.10 | beandog | mindjuju, I know that, I just hate the ones that are *trying* to gather as much as possible |
| 18:59.12 | fungus | usernames need not match |
| 19:00.01 | fungus | ssh-copy-id admin@myhost |
| 19:01.20 | influx | wut |
| 19:01.45 | influx | Apparently there's a master key that the government gives out to defense contractors, for Facebook. |
| 19:01.54 | Utah_Dave | fungus: I get an error: ERROR No identities found |
| 19:02.14 | influx | So if someone were applying for a job with a contractor, the potential employer would have the ability to look up their facebook profile--locked down or not. |
| 19:02.22 | beandog | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/funny-pictures-facebook-library-cat.jpg |
| 19:02.44 | mindjuju | oh man, that's too funny |
| 19:02.47 | beandog | influx, thats why I dont put anything terribly interesting on my profile |
| 19:03.03 | mindjuju | during that breakdown in the demo when steve asks for suggestions and somebody yells use Verizon |
| 19:03.32 | influx | right |
| 19:04.02 | influx | or start an account under an assumed name. |
| 19:04.02 | influx | And not put photos up/de-tag any photos of you that do make it online. |
| 19:05.16 | mindjuju | charging mat for the iphone? |
| 19:05.26 | mindjuju | did they bring Tesla back to life? |
| 19:05.47 | herlo | mindjuju: http://www.undeadrace.com/ |
| 19:06.07 | mindjuju | nice |
| 19:06.35 | herlo | yeah, totally legit |
| 19:06.42 | mindjuju | man, k, i ake that back, that's FREAKIN awesome |
| 19:06.53 | herlo | :) |
| 19:06.54 | utahcon | anyone not done lunch yet? |
| 19:06.59 | beandog | not me |
| 19:06.59 | herlo | thank redbeard2 |
| 19:07.05 | herlo | utahcon: wingz!! |
| 19:07.06 | mindjuju | i haven't, but i'm broke |
| 19:07.11 | mindjuju | you pay, i go |
| 19:07.14 | mindjuju | ;p |
| 19:07.26 | mindjuju | jk, i have sammich |
| 19:07.46 | utahcon | damn you herlo |
| 19:07.47 | utahcon | lol |
| 19:09.49 | herlo | utahcon: sorry dude, figured you already had eaten foodz, or brought your own |
| 19:10.13 | macnewbold | Utah_Dave: do you have a shell on the box you're going to? can you install your keys there manually? |
| 19:10.24 | macnewbold | ssh-copy-id is just a shortcut |
| 19:10.36 | macnewbold | but it appears you rkeys are in the default place on your box or something |
| 19:11.38 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, I can get on the box. |
| 19:12.15 | macnewbold | then if you put your pub key(s) on there in .ssh/authorized_keys |
| 19:12.20 | macnewbold | you shoudl be able to use keys to get in instead of password |
| 19:13.02 | Utah_Dave | macnewbold: my problem though is that I have to use a user "admin" on the remote box that doesn't exist on my box. |
| 19:13.19 | Utah_Dave | so "scp ./myfile admin@remotehost:/var/www/myfile |
| 19:14.54 | Utah_Dave | admin already has keys generated on the remote server. |
| 19:15.12 | Utah_Dave | do I copy the public key to my local .ssh/authorized_keys ? |
| 19:15.19 | macnewbold | yeah, you can just add it to the file |
| 19:15.31 | macnewbold | or you can grab the priv key for admin from the remote, |
| 19:15.33 | macnewbold | and use it locally |
| 19:15.52 | macnewbold | you just need some keypair where you have the privkey on yours, and the pubkey is set up on the remote |
| 19:16.08 | macnewbold | if you're automating this, it shoudl be a key that doesn't have any passphrase on it |
| 19:16.31 | Utah_Dave | OK, so I grab the priv key from admin on the remote and put it in my .ssh/authorized_keys on my local machine? |
| 19:18.06 | macnewbold | no |
| 19:18.11 | macnewbold | authorized_keys is for the pub keys |
| 19:18.21 | macnewbold | the priv key usally is named id_dsa or somesuch, |
| 19:18.30 | macnewbold | but unless you want this admin priv key to be your default, |
| 19:18.34 | macnewbold | i would call it something different |
| 19:18.46 | macnewbold | and keep it in your .ssh with appropriate file permissions |
| 19:18.55 | macnewbold | when yuo ssh to the remote box, |
| 19:19.32 | macnewbold | use something like ssh -i .ssh/privkeyfile admin@remotebox |
| 19:19.52 | Utah_Dave | ah, OK. I think that's what I need. |
| 19:20.04 | macnewbold | you can also add stuff like that to your .ssh/config if you want, but probably easier just to use the commandline options |
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| 19:25.38 | Utah_Dave | Hmm. Still asked me for a password, even with the identity file |
| 19:35.59 | olds | _psychic_: the countdown is really on now |
| 19:36.14 | olds | still got my espn3 info? |
| 19:37.22 | _psychic_ | oh yeah |
| 19:37.29 | _psychic_ | yeah i have butterflies |
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| 20:13.03 | mindjuju | anybody know of a place here local where you can buy UPS APC batteries? |
| 20:15.10 | mindjuju | i need something like this |
| 20:15.11 | mindjuju | http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Biz-Hi-Capacity-BackUPS-RBC4/dp/B0000X5XTU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1275941670&sr=8-1 |
| 20:15.15 | mindjuju | utah_dave |
| 20:24.18 | mindjuju | anybody done business with batteries plus? |
| 20:24.23 | mindjuju | in orem |
| 20:31.21 | herlo | mindjuju: no, but I've bought some stuff frmo the one on 33rd south |
| 20:31.34 | mindjuju | any good? |
| 20:31.40 | mindjuju | they sell quality stuff? |
| 20:32.00 | herlo | yeah |
| 20:32.15 | herlo | it's all good stuff. They have stuff nobody else does too |
| 20:32.41 | mindjuju | :( |
| 20:32.48 | mindjuju | i just called and they ahve it though |
| 20:32.49 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:33.12 | herlo | yeah, it'll be good... |
| 20:34.00 | macnewbold | mindjuju: i think i've used them before and it's been fine |
| 20:34.07 | macnewbold | if it' sthe place i'm thinking of |
| 20:34.31 | macnewbold | i found a great deal on a replacement UPS battery online a few weeks ago for one of our old apc backups |
| 20:34.48 | mindjuju | i'm excited, the store price is -$10 than amazon |
| 20:34.51 | mindjuju | and i can get it tonight |
| 20:35.20 | macnewbold | nice |
| 20:35.44 | macnewbold | the one i bought ended up being about $15-20 iirc, incl. shipping (which i think they did free) |
| 20:36.30 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:45.45 | Utah_Dave | yeah, mindjuju? |
| 20:50.29 | Utah_Dave | hey, macnewbold, I did what you said and copied down admin@myhost's private key to ~/.ssh/admin_priv |
| 20:50.57 | Utah_Dave | then I do scp -i ~/.ssh/admin_priv ./inout.sql admin@myhost:/var/www/ |
| 20:51.13 | Utah_Dave | and after a pause it asks me for a password. |
| 20:51.35 | Utah_Dave | any thoughts? |
| 20:53.45 | macnewbold | try doing ssh -v or scp -v |
| 20:54.00 | macnewbold | it will output extra info about how it's trying to log in |
| 20:54.13 | Utah_Dave | ok |
| 20:54.23 | macnewbold | sometimes there are error messages on the server too, like that the file permissions on ~, ~/.ssh, or ~/.ssh/authorized_keys are too permissive |
| 20:54.48 | macnewbold | ssh -v should show that it is offering the public keys |
| 20:54.56 | macnewbold | sorry, private keys |
| 20:55.16 | Utah_Dave | ok, it says debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey, password |
| 20:55.22 | Utah_Dave | so I need to enable private keys? |
| 21:04.50 | supernovia | oh wow. I can't believe I just recommended using a microsoft product |
| 21:05.29 | mindjuju | which / why? |
| 21:08.47 | supernovia | Oh I just told someone they should be using the exchange server's calendars |
| 21:09.12 | supernovia | so it's not like I recommended -buying- M$ so much as using what's already been bought |
| 21:09.22 | supernovia | still. I feel a little icky |
| 21:11.28 | Utah_Dave | supernovia: sometimes you get paid to just get the job done |
| 21:11.38 | supernovia | Yeah |
| 21:13.38 | mindjuju | oh i get the job done and i brings home the bacon! |
| 21:15.10 | DexterTheDragon | mmmmmmm bacon |
| 21:15.33 | Utah_Dave | ~baconator |
| 21:15.38 | mindjuju | DtD, did you fix your AC? |
| 21:15.44 | mindjuju | or swamp cooler, or whatever? |
| 21:15.45 | DexterTheDragon | not yet |
| 21:15.49 | mindjuju | bummer |
| 21:16.12 | supernovia | but it doesn't sound as nice that way |
| 21:16.26 | TuxToaster | heh, and out of nowhere I noticed that action in the background |
| 21:16.32 | TuxToaster | * supernovia prefers sausage |
| 21:16.48 | TuxToaster | just kind of strange without having read the rest of the chat |
| 21:17.21 | mindjuju | ...and then suddenly, #uphpu went deathly quiet.... |
| 21:17.22 | Utah_Dave | ~supernovia |
| 21:17.23 | ibot | supernovia is probably an enigma wrapped in a riddle, or a happy mother of two awesome kiddos |
| 21:17.30 | TuxToaster | hehe |
| 21:17.35 | Utah_Dave | ... and prefers sausage |
| 21:17.38 | supernovia | lol |
| 21:17.43 | supernovia | or quietly.. at work |
| 21:18.24 | TuxToaster | there is a R/C helicopter flying around my head, dangling a $10 bill with a paperclip |
| 21:18.49 | mindjuju | that's awesome |
| 21:19.04 | mindjuju | i've always wanted to buy the RC blimp and fix a wifi spy cam on it |
| 21:19.18 | TuxToaster | we call it the spiffalocopter or something like that. hehe |
| 21:21.08 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP8gYKa1ozY |
| 21:21.15 | mindjuju | NOT for beandog |
| 21:21.23 | mindjuju | don't want to be responsible for diverting him from work |
| 21:21.26 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:21.29 | mindjuju | beandog! don't click that link! ^^ |
| 21:21.40 | mindjuju | nobody tell beandog how good that link is |
| 21:21.54 | mindjuju | oh man, what a punk, he's not even here |
| 21:28.55 | TuxToaster | http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/photo.php?pid=4248111&id=74576818381 |
| 21:29.07 | TuxToaster | hope that link works. |
| 21:30.02 | Utah_Dave | TuxToaster: I'm not sure if I'd grab the 10 dollar bill or if I'd grab that cool little helicopter |
| 21:30.03 | mindjuju | awesome |
| 21:30.10 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:30.24 | Utah_Dave | hey, how would I figure out which config file my currently running sshd is using? |
| 21:30.32 | TuxToaster | the helicopter is actually a pretty decent one... it's taken quite a beating running into walls, desks and the like. |
| 21:30.47 | TuxToaster | the controller he has for it is a beast though. |
| 21:31.32 | TuxToaster | ha. he says if we grabbed the helicopter spifs would be over since he couldn't fly anymore |
| 21:39.39 | Utah_Dave | funny |
| 21:44.39 | supernovia | mwhahhaha. that is all. |
| 21:44.45 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:45.06 | TuxToaster | I liked the #willitblend tweet |
| 21:45.55 | TuxToaster | in the TUAW liveblog we had someone asking if it would blend within a minute or two of the announcement |
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| 21:48.37 | mindjuju | DtD - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRoS3n5Cn80#t=01m35s |
| 21:48.50 | mindjuju | they used to use this vid when demoing TVs long time ago |
| 21:48.53 | mindjuju | Mind's eye |
| 21:49.22 | influx | Mind's Eye is rocking. |
| 21:49.46 | mindjuju | yup, v cool |
| 21:50.11 | supernovia | thanks TuxToaster :) |
| 21:50.17 | supernovia | I think we're gonna have some fun with this ;-D |
| 21:51.21 | mindjuju | influx - this one reminds me of that game Magic Carpet - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcydDkCLRSk |
| 21:51.25 | mindjuju | did you ever play that? |
| 21:51.36 | mindjuju | well, the first part does |
| 22:01.05 | influx | un momento pork flavor |
| 22:01.50 | influx | I want to say I did play Magic Carpet, but it would have been so long. |
| 22:02.27 | influx | s/I want to say I did play Magic Carpet, but it would have been so long ago./I want to say I did play Magic Carpet, but it would have been so long. |
| 22:02.32 | influx | :< |
| 22:02.35 | influx | test |
| 22:02.43 | influx | s/fail/test/ |
| 22:02.49 | influx | foo |
| 22:02.54 | influx | s/foo/bar/ |
| 22:08.13 | mindjuju | ESCAPE! |
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