| 00:09.59 | supernovia | see ya guys... |
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| 01:09.42 | mindjuju | carmony, you around? |
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| 03:49.54 | undertakingyou | Anyone still awake with some Zend Framework experience? |
| 05:09.33 | utahcon | undertakingyou: still looking for help? |
| 05:09.45 | undertakingyou | yeah, I am still working on it. |
| 05:09.52 | undertakingyou | how you doing BTW? |
| 05:09.58 | utahcon | doing good. you? |
| 05:10.07 | undertakingyou | well, here we are. |
| 05:10.32 | herlo | there you are |
| 05:10.36 | undertakingyou | :) |
| 05:10.38 | utahcon | lol |
| 05:10.42 | utahcon | so what do you need help with |
| 05:10.53 | utahcon | I am no expert, but I have a solid week or two under my belt with zf |
| 05:12.01 | undertakingyou | two things, I find that the documentation are far and wide. I am wondering if there is anything comprehensive about what options are available for things like addElement, validators, etc. |
| 05:12.13 | undertakingyou | Also, I can't get this form to display, I can't figure out why. |
| 05:12.24 | utahcon | alright... |
| 05:12.31 | utahcon | docs are a waste most of the time |
| 05:12.38 | utahcon | I spent two weeks looking for something better, never did |
| 05:12.47 | utahcon | however, |
| 05:12.52 | utahcon | there are nuggets in there |
| 05:13.04 | utahcon | work through the broken english and click the links (middle clicks are best) |
| 05:13.18 | utahcon | some links are exactly what you want others are red herrings |
| 05:13.33 | utahcon | I know that doesn't help but once you warp your mind around it life gets easier |
| 05:13.43 | utahcon | don't be afraid to look in the library for the answers |
| 05:13.50 | utahcon | I have found a ton that way |
| 05:13.54 | utahcon | it sucks, but it works |
| 05:13.56 | utahcon | now |
| 05:13.59 | utahcon | your form... |
| 05:14.17 | utahcon | I assume in your controller you are doing something lik e |
| 05:14.29 | utahcon | $form = new Application_Form_MyForm(); |
| 05:14.32 | utahcon | then |
| 05:14.38 | utahcon | $this->view->form = $form; |
| 05:14.42 | utahcon | then in your view |
| 05:14.49 | utahcon | echo $this->form; |
| 05:14.51 | utahcon | right? |
| 05:15.21 | undertakingyou | I might not have the echo. Otherwise, yes. |
| 05:15.21 | undertakingyou | Lemme look. |
| 05:15.58 | undertakingyou | yes, it is all there. |
| 05:16.13 | undertakingyou | And the submit button appears on the form, but not my text input. |
| 05:16.19 | undertakingyou | <?php |
| 05:16.19 | undertakingyou | class Application_Form_Garden extends Zend_Form |
| 05:16.19 | undertakingyou | { |
| 05:16.19 | undertakingyou | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.19 | undertakingyou | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.21 | undertakingyou | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.24 | undertakingyou | $this->setMethod('post'); |
| 05:16.26 | undertakingyou | //Search Form for garden. |
| 05:16.28 | utahcon | pastebin |
| 05:16.29 | undertakingyou | $this->addElement('text', 'search', array( |
| 05:16.31 | undertakingyou | 'label'=> 'Search for Garden', |
| 05:16.34 | undertakingyou | 'required' => TRUE |
| 05:16.36 | undertakingyou | )); |
| 05:16.39 | undertakingyou | $this->addElement('submit', 'search', array( |
| 05:16.41 | undertakingyou | 'ignore' => TRUE, |
| 05:16.44 | undertakingyou | 'labe/' => 'Search for the Garden' |
| 05:16.46 | undertakingyou | )); |
| 05:16.49 | undertakingyou | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:16.51 | undertakingyou | } |
| 05:16.54 | undertakingyou | this is my form. I can't figure out why submit appears and the text doesn't. |
| 05:17.46 | utahcon | first |
| 05:18.06 | utahcon | you have label spelled wrong on your button -- you'll want to fix that before you give yourself a migrain looking for it :D |
| 05:18.13 | undertakingyou | http://pastebin.com/k96etywb |
| 05:18.21 | utahcon | second, and not sure it's the problem but you named both fields the same |
| 05:18.29 | utahcon | could be that ZF is replacing the text with the submit |
| 05:19.20 | utahcon | let me know if changing those two things fixes it. |
| 05:19.27 | utahcon | herlo: you still awake |
| 05:19.30 | undertakingyou | shoot. |
| 05:19.30 | herlo | utahcon: hi |
| 05:19.35 | utahcon | :D |
| 05:19.55 | undertakingyou | I have looked at all this for an hour. |
| 05:20.00 | herlo | utahcon: what's up? |
| 05:20.06 | undertakingyou | Didn't realize I had both form elements named the same. |
| 05:20.07 | utahcon | nothin |
| 05:20.18 | utahcon | undertakingyou: lol -- I just have the outside eye ;) |
| 05:20.27 | undertakingyou | true that. |
| 05:20.28 | utahcon | i bet if I had been in your shoes I'd still be looking |
| 05:20.37 | undertakingyou | Now I have to see if it executes the query right. |
| 05:20.51 | utahcon | lol -- I am still working on quering and stuff |
| 05:21.02 | utahcon | want to get to the point of using Zend_Search_Lucene |
| 05:21.16 | utahcon | and Zend__Paginator |
| 05:21.35 | utahcon | I should have learned Zf when I wasn't in the middle of a project |
| 05:21.56 | utahcon | however, I think it will maket he remainder of the project go a lot faster if the client doesn't bump me for taking so damn long. |
| 05:22.36 | utahcon | undertakingyou: anything else I can help you with buddy? |
| 05:22.58 | undertakingyou | I have a project with a due date of tomorrow. I shouldn't have started with zf on this one because it was short time. |
| 05:23.10 | undertakingyou | utahcon: Not tonight, I will keep going. |
| 05:23.13 | undertakingyou | thanks |
| 05:23.25 | utahcon | undertakingyou: also join #zftalk |
| 05:23.28 | utahcon | they are helpful |
| 05:24.05 | utahcon | dont expect much more from their site than you do Zend's but their irc is great |
| 05:24.37 | herlo | hehe |
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| 13:20.19 | utahcon | GOOD MORING! |
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| 14:39.52 | mgeary | woot |
| 14:40.01 | mgeary | ~rlart |
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| 15:01.57 | mgeary | well, tomorrow i'll be enjoying the rustic life on a farm in Belgium |
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| 15:03.23 | beandog | ~thursday |
| 15:03.24 | ibot | "This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent) |
| 15:03.47 | herlo | except that it's Friday |
| 15:03.50 | herlo | ~friday |
| 15:03.50 | ibot | ! ! ! F R I D A Y ! ! ! |
| 15:04.15 | beandog | The great thing about Friday is it happens once a week |
| 15:04.39 | herlo | that's also the sucky thing about it |
| 15:05.05 | beandog | herlo, don't pee on my parade, man |
| 15:05.30 | herlo | beandog: it should be saturday all the time :) |
| 15:06.13 | beandog | woo |
| 15:07.00 | herlo | beandog: feel better now? |
| 15:07.06 | beandog | sure |
| 15:08.06 | herlo | utahcon: MORING!?? |
| 15:13.17 | utahcon | it was early |
| 15:15.47 | SunSparc | mgeary: luckky |
| 15:16.09 | herlo | utahcon: lol, sure sure |
| 15:16.18 | herlo | make reasonable excuses :) |
| 15:16.29 | mgeary | SunSparc: we're taking a different twist on this traveling portion of our time in Europe-- we're staying in farmhouses nearly every night |
| 15:16.36 | mgeary | looks like it's going to be a lot of fun |
| 15:16.45 | influx | ! ! ! V I E R N E S ! ! ! |
| 15:17.01 | SunSparc | mgeary: Awesome! Take lots of pictures so that we can enjoy it vicariously. |
| 15:17.22 | mgeary | http://www.spreeuwenburg.com/ |
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| 15:20.33 | beandog | fungus! |
| 15:20.37 | beandog | carmony! |
| 15:21.34 | SunSparc | mgeary: that address does not workk |
| 15:22.10 | mgeary | confirmed. but it did earlier today. Might be having server issues. |
| 15:22.36 | SunSparc | k |
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| 15:22.45 | beandog | fungus! |
| 15:22.48 | mindjuju | ah, fungus |
| 15:22.49 | mgeary | i tell you, one adventurous thing is trying to book a night's stay in provincial France when you don't speak french and they don't speak english |
| 15:23.01 | mgeary | i'm sitting there typing things in to google translate and reading them over the phone |
| 15:23.08 | mgeary | but, of course, i can't understand the responses |
| 15:23.10 | fungus | lol |
| 15:23.12 | mgeary | sheesh |
| 15:23.40 | mgeary | we had one lady see the humor in it all and work through it with us. we had another lady give up in disgust |
| 15:23.44 | mindjuju | so fungus, is there an apple app that keeps passwords that you like? |
| 15:23.52 | mgeary | mindjuju: i use 1password |
| 15:24.00 | beandog | mindjuju, I use revelation |
| 15:24.13 | SunSparc | heh |
| 15:24.21 | beandog | mindjuju, http://oss.codepoet.no/revelation/wiki/Home |
| 15:24.32 | fungus | mindjuju, 1password looks the most interesting, but I don't like any password apps. |
| 15:24.58 | mindjuju | beandog, revelation looks cool but i need it for an ipod touch |
| 15:25.05 | fungus | I use a custom script that wraps gpg encrypting a text document + vim |
| 15:25.05 | beandog | mindjuju, okies |
| 15:25.16 | mgeary | http://www.bienvenuealaferme.net/ |
| 15:25.36 | fungus | mindjuju, lastpass was the other app I considered. |
| 15:26.00 | fungus | but it's browser takeover feel really annoyed me |
| 15:26.24 | beandog | wooooooooooooooo |
| 15:26.29 | beandog | I got ffmpeg + libvpx working :D |
| 15:27.46 | mindjuju | this looks really promising mgeary |
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| 15:28.05 | mgeary | mindjuju: i like it. been using it for prolly 2 years now |
| 15:28.46 | beandog | josephscott! |
| 15:28.56 | josephscott | yes? |
| 15:29.32 | beandog | you're alive! |
| 15:30.04 | mindjuju | josephscott, beandog is having a Joie De Vie moment |
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| 15:30.16 | josephscott | rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated |
| 15:30.16 | beandog | itimber! |
| 15:30.51 | mindjuju | wasn't that mark twain? |
| 15:31.28 | itimber | morning guys |
| 15:31.36 | mindjuju | morning |
| 15:31.37 | itimber | and beandog |
| 15:31.40 | itimber | what are you up to? |
| 15:31.53 | mindjuju | you know what would be cool, is if truecrypt did a password keeper app |
| 15:33.28 | mgeary | SunSparc: since that other link isn't working, here's more info: http://goeurope.about.com/cs/belguim/a/belgium_farm.htm |
| 15:34.38 | SunSparc | mgeary: nice |
| 15:39.52 | orsonj | heh, put portable keepass in a truecrypt volume |
| 15:40.54 | beandog | yay, mplayer and ffmpeg work \o/ |
| 15:43.13 | orsonj | I suppose I should try downloading another nightly chromium |
| 15:51.27 | orsonj | cool, works today |
| 15:57.47 | utahcon | anyone here ever used the Zend_Paginator? |
| 15:58.48 | mindjuju | carmony is a big fan of Zend |
| 15:58.48 | mindjuju | he may have |
| 15:58.48 | utahcon | carmony: used Zend_Paginator? |
| 15:58.48 | mindjuju | fungus, it has an 80s feel |
| 15:58.48 | fungus | oh, the Scissor Sisters, Yeah. Fantastic. |
| 16:01.08 | beandog | Would it be okay to load a view in a view |
| 16:01.13 | beandog | if I'm just pulling in header, footer, etc. |
| 16:01.30 | fungus | is it presentation related? |
| 16:01.37 | beandog | yarr |
| 16:01.44 | fungus | ok, there's your answer |
| 16:02.01 | beandog | Hmm |
| 16:02.09 | beandog | okies. |
| 16:02.41 | mindjuju | i need some kind of tough case thing for this ipod, i'm bad with delicate things |
| 16:03.04 | fungus | did mindjuju get a new ipod? |
| 16:03.12 | fungus | grats |
| 16:03.32 | beandog | I got mine right before the video ones came out. -_- |
| 16:03.34 | beandog | failsies |
| 16:03.46 | mindjuju | yeah, school + work + family+stuff was becoming too much |
| 16:04.00 | mindjuju | i pretty much got it cause it synced with google calendar |
| 16:04.17 | mindjuju | now i can offload my next week calendar from my brain to the ipod, i feel better |
| 16:04.23 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:04.57 | beandog | Mon: 8-5pm: listen to music |
| 16:07.52 | mindjuju | orsonj - twas thinking something more in a kevlar |
| 16:07.59 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:08.12 | mindjuju | honest, that's why i don't wear watches or things like that |
| 16:08.13 | fungus | ipod cases are all too bulky |
| 16:08.40 | mindjuju | door frames just seem to jump out at me and lets just say this, if a watch is working longer than 6months, it's a record breaker |
| 16:09.06 | beandog | mindjuju, wear your watch on your belt |
| 16:09.09 | beandog | thtas what I used to do |
| 16:09.09 | fungus | just get a tougher watch |
| 16:09.32 | fungus | my old watch would withstand bashing it against a brick wall |
| 16:09.43 | mindjuju | that's the kind of watch for me |
| 16:09.45 | orsonj | why is it your old watch then |
| 16:09.57 | beandog | he got the bluetooth one |
| 16:09.58 | fungus | cause I have a fancy new caller-id bluetooth watch |
| 16:10.12 | mindjuju | now that I think abou t it, my calculator watch in 6 grade lasted the whole year |
| 16:10.22 | mindjuju | i wonder if they still sell those |
| 16:10.24 | beandog | I had a Transformers watch back in the day |
| 16:10.28 | orsonj | ah, yeah I had one of those |
| 16:10.36 | orsonj | (calc not transofrmer) |
| 16:10.43 | beandog | it would snap off and change into a little robot |
| 16:10.45 | beandog | pew pew pew! |
| 16:10.47 | fungus | mindjuju, just about any ordinary timex watch will be tough enough for you. |
| 16:11.17 | beandog | http://www.amazon.com/Transformers-WB6464043AMC-Optimus-Digital-Transforming/dp/B002MUAMO0 |
| 16:11.52 | mindjuju | fungus - http://www.amazon.com/iFrogz-Luxe-iPhone-Orange-Black/dp/B001EZOGZA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1275062752&sr=8-3 |
| 16:11.55 | mindjuju | i think that'll do |
| 16:12.06 | mindjuju | beandog, that's awesome |
| 16:12.27 | mindjuju | hmm, that one i passed ya was for the iphone, i wonder if it'll work for th e ipod |
| 16:16.30 | utahcon | :D |
| 16:17.06 | mindjuju | i'll be on that boat when data plans get to a reasonable price |
| 16:17.20 | fungus | lol, that'll never happen |
| 16:17.26 | utahcon | mindjuju: did you hear about Verizon and their 4G? |
| 16:17.34 | utahcon | they are getting FURTHER from unlimited plans |
| 16:17.38 | utahcon | selling data in "buckets" |
| 16:17.42 | fungus | data plans is where telcos have free reign to screw you |
| 16:17.50 | utahcon | fungus: only for now |
| 16:17.59 | mindjuju | yeah, and 56k dialup was nearly $30 |
| 16:18.05 | fungus | why? is there hope? |
| 16:18.13 | utahcon | fungus: there is always hope |
| 16:18.18 | mindjuju | concur |
| 16:18.19 | utahcon | and man with no hope is better off dead |
| 16:18.22 | mindjuju | they will come down |
| 16:18.35 | utahcon | Tmo $30 for unlimited is not terrible |
| 16:18.39 | utahcon | but $30/phone sucks |
| 16:19.09 | beandog | utahcon, buckets??? wtc? |
| 16:19.16 | beandog | I hate cell phone companies screwing us over. |
| 16:19.25 | utahcon | although I think we are going to see some major shifts from regular cell service to VoIP in the next few years, and the data plans will be what your base is |
| 16:19.31 | mindjuju | can i have a bucket of the kerne's extra crispy? |
| 16:19.42 | utahcon | beandog: just don't go with Sprint or AT&T or Verizon |
| 16:19.43 | utahcon | to Tmo |
| 16:19.45 | utahcon | or Boost |
| 16:19.49 | utahcon | or ... you get the idea |
| 16:20.01 | beandog | utahcon, I cant do Tmobile ... no workie in my house |
| 16:20.03 | mindjuju | whats up with cricket? |
| 16:20.06 | mindjuju | is that any good? |
| 16:20.18 | beandog | coverage is *horrible* in Sugarhouse .... go figure. :T |
| 16:20.20 | mindjuju | i hear they are cheap |
| 16:20.23 | utahcon | beandog: it doesn't work at my house either |
| 16:20.27 | beandog | I like Cricket |
| 16:20.28 | beandog | when I had em |
| 16:20.31 | utahcon | Tmo used to have UMA which was good |
| 16:20.31 | beandog | month to month |
| 16:20.34 | utahcon | but they charged for it |
| 16:20.46 | utahcon | Cricket is a leech on... I think Sprint. |
| 16:20.48 | utahcon | I forget |
| 16:20.51 | beandog | I would get a google phone, but I think data plans are pure evil |
| 16:20.54 | utahcon | but their service is not terrible |
| 16:20.59 | utahcon | customer service is shit |
| 16:21.03 | utahcon | I mean sh*t |
| 16:21.32 | utahcon | I honestly think that Tmo will be the first carrier to go under the $20 for unlimited data |
| 16:21.44 | beandog | utahcon, I heard tmo is cheap on their plans |
| 16:21.51 | beandog | who was it telling me that ... |
| 16:21.52 | fungus | beandog, data plans are totally awesome. It's the price you pay that is evil. |
| 16:21.53 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, I think |
| 16:22.16 | utahcon | beandog: Tmo is cheap, but not quite cheap enough |
| 16:22.23 | beandog | utahcon, how much? |
| 16:22.23 | utahcon | if you are single and young they are great |
| 16:22.31 | utahcon | if you have a family, they are still cheaper than everyone else ;) |
| 16:22.39 | utahcon | depends on what you want in a plan beandog |
| 16:22.54 | beandog | utahcon, yah, dunno .. |
| 16:23.00 | fungus | lol, beandog? a swinger?? |
| 16:23.03 | beandog | fungus, lols |
| 16:23.09 | utahcon | how many mins you use? |
| 16:23.09 | orsonj | funny, Tmobile used to have a $20 data plan |
| 16:23.11 | utahcon | rough guess? |
| 16:23.12 | mindjuju | W0000W |
| 16:23.23 | beandog | utahcon, dunno ... Id love a googl ephone so I can use google voice .. thats really the only feature I want ... dont care about minutes, but I like texting. |
| 16:23.24 | utahcon | orsonj: their "smartphone" plan is $20 |
| 16:23.29 | utahcon | their Android plan is $30 |
| 16:23.44 | orsonj | ah, that was the difference |
| 16:23.55 | beandog | utahcon, how much you paying for yours? |
| 16:24.04 | mindjuju | $30 * 12 = 360 (a year) |
| 16:24.23 | mindjuju | 2 yrs -- $720 for a FREAKIN DATA PLAN!!! |
| 16:24.44 | orsonj | That's less than I pay for broadband at home |
| 16:24.45 | fungus | but your not calculating the awesome benefits into account. |
| 16:24.45 | utahcon | beandog: Talk (300 min) + Unlimited Text = $39.99 -- get a Google Phone (Samsung Galaxy S comes out in July) and you add $30 for data |
| 16:24.49 | utahcon | so $69.99 |
| 16:25.13 | utahcon | yeah but Tmo 3G is not quite broadband speeds |
| 16:25.21 | beandog | utahcon, hmm .... spendy |
| 16:25.21 | utahcon | more like dual ISDN imo |
| 16:25.31 | orsonj | yeah, it is a tradeoff |
| 16:25.31 | utahcon | is the Android data plans that blow |
| 16:25.31 | fungus | wow, Tmo really is cheap |
| 16:25.50 | utahcon | I am irratated right now cause you pay MORE to have a 2 yr contract |
| 16:25.50 | fungus | I think SOS pays about $120/mo for my phone |
| 16:25.52 | utahcon | with Tmo |
| 16:26.08 | utahcon | fungus: you have unlimited mins though right? |
| 16:26.26 | orsonj | I'l probably pay $30/month for a mobile hotspot or tethering (and yes it would have to be unlimited) |
| 16:26.47 | utahcon | orsonj: Get an android and don't pay to tether |
| 16:26.48 | utahcon | that is BD |
| 16:26.49 | utahcon | BS |
| 16:26.53 | mindjuju | i wonder what ever happened to Congress looking into the prices of SMS |
| 16:27.04 | fungus | utahcon, not unlimited minutes, i think only 300 |
| 16:27.07 | utahcon | My phone will be a wifi hotspot for as many computers as I want |
| 16:27.11 | mindjuju | them prices are nuts |
| 16:27.14 | utahcon | fungus: what?! really? |
| 16:27.18 | fungus | yeah |
| 16:27.21 | beandog | mindjuju, srsly |
| 16:27.31 | beandog | If I had to choose, Id probably take just texting over minutes |
| 16:27.45 | utahcon | fungus: on Tmo it would be $59.99 + $30 for unlimited talk text and android data |
| 16:27.45 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Have you tried WhatsApp? |
| 16:27.48 | fungus | I have access to more minutes, since I can access the company "pool" |
| 16:28.12 | mindjuju | i hear SMS is like .005 cost for teleco, and .05 for us, that's a HUGE markup |
| 16:28.13 | utahcon | Verizon has better data... by and large. |
| 16:28.22 | mindjuju | ~wiki whatsapp |
| 16:28.26 | utahcon | mindjuju: SMS costs NOTHIGN! |
| 16:28.29 | utahcon | for the telco |
| 16:28.31 | SunSparc | http://www.whatsapp.com/ |
| 16:28.45 | fungus | mindjuju, you shouldn't be paying per-text prices for SMS anyway |
| 16:28.45 | SunSparc | WhatsApp = Free SMS |
| 16:28.59 | utahcon | WhatsApp doesn't use the data network |
| 16:29.00 | fungus | mindjuju, always text in a plan |
| 16:29.09 | beandog | SunSparc, whats what Im doing GV for |
| 16:29.18 | SunSparc | GV++ |
| 16:29.25 | beandog | of course, its not in an app for anything I have |
| 16:29.26 | utahcon | SunSparc: is right GV++ |
| 16:29.27 | beandog | gotta use a puter. |
| 16:29.28 | beandog | -_- |
| 16:29.29 | mindjuju | sunsparc, that's awesome! |
| 16:30.14 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Yeah, I like it. Has more features than just texting. You can send locations, images, voice messages |
| 16:30.25 | beandog | SunSparc, how does it receive txt to your phone? |
| 16:30.31 | SunSparc | beandog: push |
| 16:30.56 | utahcon | beandog misses his old job ... no he doesn't |
| 16:31.03 | utahcon | that was odd |
| 16:31.17 | beandog | SunSparc, ? |
| 16:31.35 | utahcon | SunSparc means it uses Apples Push servers |
| 16:31.35 | beandog | SunSparc, I guess Ill have to read up |
| 16:31.36 | SunSparc | beandog: It is a push app. |
| 16:31.39 | mindjuju | so what was this talk about buckets, cause i've got a hankering for some extra crispy |
| 16:31.45 | beandog | mindjuju, lol |
| 16:31.55 | utahcon | mindjuju: tried the double down yet? |
| 16:32.00 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:32.03 | utahcon | they should server that with your choice of crisp |
| 16:32.10 | utahcon | I have had it twice :D |
| 16:32.12 | SunSparc | I heard about the double down. They look tasty. |
| 16:32.22 | utahcon | SunSparc: they ARE tasty |
| 16:32.27 | mindjuju | utahcon, haven't yet |
| 16:32.30 | beandog | Im so glad Comcast hasn't started doing insane data caps .. yet |
| 16:32.32 | mindjuju | i've heard great things though |
| 16:32.40 | beandog | Not that I'm a downloadatron or anything |
| 16:32.40 | utahcon | beandog: they have data caps |
| 16:32.47 | utahcon | 500Gb |
| 16:32.52 | beandog | utahcon, I know, but did you read about that one that has 5GB monthly cap? |
| 16:32.56 | utahcon | although I heard it may be 250gb now |
| 16:32.56 | beandog | in Minnesota or something |
| 16:33.04 | beandog | and if you go over that, your price is $100/mo |
| 16:33.09 | utahcon | ugh |
| 16:33.11 | utahcon | f-that |
| 16:33.13 | beandog | 5GB!? |
| 16:33.15 | beandog | poor saps. |
| 16:33.34 | utahcon | what is messed up is that Comcast has the new DOCSIS3.0 with 105Mbps coming out for $200/mnth with the same caps |
| 16:33.34 | beandog | It wa sjust on Ars yesterday |
| 16:33.43 | utahcon | you could literally blow through your cap in 1 day |
| 16:34.02 | mindjuju | was just going to say |
| 16:34.17 | utahcon | they poured the footings yesterday :D |
| 16:34.37 | utahcon | then I will get with a real ISP (read: Xmission) |
| 16:34.42 | mindjuju | it's going to be a party at utahcon's when is house is built |
| 16:34.42 | utahcon | for some 50/50 lovin! |
| 16:34.54 | utahcon | mindjuju: word... BBQ + WiFi |
| 16:34.56 | utahcon | some rock band |
| 16:35.09 | utahcon | and a bunch of nerds |
| 16:35.20 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:35.22 | utahcon | I gotta wait until the grass is in the park though |
| 16:35.33 | orsonj | I currently use about 26G/mo at home |
| 16:35.41 | orsonj | s/26/20/ |
| 16:35.49 | utahcon | orsonj: you aren't trying hard enough :d |
| 16:35.57 | orsonj | no, I don't try that hard |
| 16:36.10 | utahcon | I do that in git transfer along |
| 16:36.17 | utahcon | s/along/alone/ |
| 16:36.23 | utahcon | :D |
| 16:36.36 | mindjuju | wow, network solutions has web hosting for $4.99/mo |
| 16:36.48 | orsonj | that's mainly hulu I think. I haven't setup my online backup yet. |
| 16:36.53 | utahcon | mindjuju: shared, on an overcrowed server? |
| 16:36.59 | beandog | NetSol? |
| 16:37.00 | mindjuju | i wonder if they advertise as a perk that they will sned you a mass email when their servers are hacked |
| 16:37.00 | beandog | Ew. |
| 16:37.13 | utahcon | mindjuju: lol |
| 16:37.21 | mindjuju | utahcon, that's what i hear |
| 16:37.26 | mindjuju | they were hacked like 2 weeks ago |
| 16:37.30 | beandog | rly? |
| 16:37.32 | mindjuju | all hosted sites F00BED |
| 16:37.36 | beandog | heh |
| 16:37.43 | mindjuju | well, they had malicious code attached to all html pages |
| 16:37.59 | mindjuju | that forwarded visitors bad page |
| 16:38.02 | utahcon | they are malicious |
| 16:38.05 | mindjuju | they informed all clients via mass email |
| 16:38.18 | utahcon | magazines on iPad... weak! |
| 16:38.39 | utahcon | weak as apps that is |
| 16:38.44 | beandog | utahcon, srsly |
| 16:38.48 | beandog | man ........ I am soooo ready to leave |
| 16:38.53 | beandog | and its not even noon. |
| 16:38.56 | beandog | ~screwed |
| 16:38.57 | ibot | Not with you, beandog ! |
| 16:39.11 | beandog | heh |
| 16:39.24 | fungus | bleh, I gotta clean up my mountain of empty coke cans today. |
| 16:39.40 | beandog | anyone wanna go to lagoon? |
| 16:39.40 | fungus | it's starting to crowd me out. |
| 16:39.51 | beandog | oh wait, are they even open today |
| 16:40.12 | utahcon | fungus: and we have "visitors" coming |
| 16:40.20 | beandog | anyone wanna go to lagoon tomorrow? :D |
| 16:40.20 | utahcon | that is why we are "allowed" to wear jeans today :D |
| 16:40.27 | utahcon | beandog: I am with you... work sucks |
| 16:40.32 | utahcon | working on Fridays sucks |
| 16:40.41 | utahcon | working on Fridays before 3 day weekends sucks more |
| 16:40.46 | SunSparc | utahcon: correction, working sucks. |
| 16:40.46 | fungus | that too, but it's more for my sanity. I keep knocking over cans if i turn around fast. |
| 16:40.47 | beandog | Oh sweet ...... starting next week they are open every day!! |
| 16:41.03 | beandog | I'm so gonna buy my gf a season pass |
| 16:41.13 | beandog | once I find one. |
| 16:41.22 | utahcon | SunSparc: working is a necessary evil |
| 16:41.28 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:41.28 | utahcon | but I agree |
| 16:41.43 | mindjuju | she's pretty stderr |
| 16:41.54 | utahcon | beandog: you are an odd gentleman |
| 16:42.04 | utahcon | Lagoon stopped having any appeal to me a long time ago |
| 16:42.16 | mindjuju | ~seen stderr |
| 16:42.18 | ibot | stderr <~stderr@truedat.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #utah, 6d 19h 15m 17s ago, saying: 'err, Beale*'. |
| 16:42.18 | utahcon | although the dirty old man in me loves Lagoona Beach :D |
| 16:42.29 | mindjuju | ~seen dataw0lf |
| 16:42.29 | ibot | dataw0lf <n=stderr@truedat.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 363d 23h 23m 30s ago, saying: 'I'll believe it when I see it, let's just put it that way.'. |
| 16:42.31 | fungus | Lagoon is still fun, just not season pass fun anymore. |
| 16:42.37 | beandog | utahcon, its either that or disneyland |
| 16:42.49 | fungus | unless beandog wants to buy me one... |
| 16:42.52 | utahcon | dude |
| 16:42.57 | utahcon | disneyland if it were the same price |
| 16:43.01 | utahcon | or i could afford it |
| 16:43.14 | SunSparc | wow, dataw0lf has not been dataw0lf for a long time. |
| 16:43.16 | beandog | fungus, sure man, Im trying to find someone to buy one for so I can drag em with me |
| 16:43.39 | utahcon | Last time Lagoon was fun was when I was having a competition with a friend to see who could make out with more of the female employess |
| 16:43.47 | *** join/#uphpu cedwards (~christer@unaffiliated/zelut) |
| 16:43.47 | utahcon | I wasted him :d |
| 16:43.59 | beandog | cedwards! |
| 16:44.02 | fungus | woot, grats utahcon |
| 16:44.11 | fungus | mr. slut lips |
| 16:44.16 | beandog | lol |
| 16:44.17 | utahcon | dataw0lf has been gone almost a day short of a year.... |
| 16:44.26 | utahcon | thanks fungus |
| 16:44.30 | utahcon | I was a man whore in my day |
| 16:44.36 | beandog | utahcon, how did you pull that one off? |
| 16:44.45 | beandog | utahcon, like, srsly .. I want tips |
| 16:44.47 | utahcon | what making out with employee chicks? |
| 16:44.47 | beandog | ;) |
| 16:45.05 | utahcon | flattery is the key |
| 16:45.12 | utahcon | "Hey you look cute, wanna make out?" |
| 16:45.17 | carmony | rofl |
| 16:45.19 | beandog | "Boy that name badge brings out your eyes" |
| 16:45.22 | utahcon | that and my devilish good looks |
| 16:45.42 | beandog | "I love the arrangement of cotton candy in your hair" |
| 16:45.45 | utahcon | add to that they are all young girls who dearly want attention |
| 16:45.50 | utahcon | exploit it! |
| 16:46.03 | utahcon | I actually met a long time girlfriend that day |
| 16:46.28 | beandog | utahcon, made or met? |
| 16:46.36 | utahcon | well we met |
| 16:46.40 | utahcon | that night we made out |
| 16:46.44 | utahcon | on the haunted houses |
| 16:46.44 | utahcon | :D |
| 16:46.53 | utahcon | then we stayed together for a couple of years |
| 16:47.13 | utahcon | then she moved to Garden City |
| 16:47.36 | beandog | utahcon is a swinger! |
| 16:47.53 | utahcon | beandog: shhhh!!! |
| 16:47.56 | utahcon | Don't tell the world. |
| 16:48.04 | beandog | fungus, oh, and just for the record ... Im not buying you a season pass .. if you can afford that fancy watch and an ipad, get yer own. :) |
| 16:48.08 | utahcon | if girls know you are a man whore it ruins everything! |
| 16:48.16 | beandog | don't worry, no girls in here |
| 16:48.27 | beandog | I dont think |
| 16:48.29 | beandog | ibot, gender |
| 16:48.30 | ibot | I'm lesbian |
| 16:48.32 | utahcon | herlo: is kinda like a girl |
| 16:48.32 | utahcon | :D |
| 16:48.35 | beandog | lol |
| 16:48.51 | influx | hahaha |
| 16:49.07 | influx | In that he can break you in half and chip a nail? |
| 16:49.14 | influx | I don't get it. |
| 16:49.18 | influx | >:| |
| 16:49.22 | utahcon | influx: there is nothing to get |
| 16:49.29 | influx | >:| |
| 16:49.42 | influx | :) |
| 16:49.49 | fungus | utahcon, he's not a girl anymore. not after the surgery... |
| 16:50.11 | utahcon | fungus: my bad, forgot |
| 16:50.45 | beandog | We should have a Lagoon UPHPU outing |
| 16:50.47 | orsonj | http://www.stixfonts.org/ <-- These guys have been doing this for months |
| 16:50.55 | beandog | whose with me? |
| 16:51.05 | SunSparc | utahcon: have you tried thesixtyone? |
| 16:51.52 | utahcon | SunSparc: yes... but more often than not, I don't care for the tunes |
| 16:52.03 | SunSparc | Hmmm |
| 16:52.11 | SunSparc | I find so much that I love on there. |
| 16:52.27 | utahcon | I also like more control of my music |
| 16:52.57 | herlo | duh! |
| 16:54.34 | herlo | like that was up for debate :) |
| 16:55.02 | mindjuju | in the spirit of full disclosure, utahcon called herlo a girl a few minutes ago |
| 16:55.09 | utahcon | yes I did |
| 16:55.11 | mindjuju | he should prolly be punched |
| 16:55.15 | utahcon | prob |
| 16:55.25 | herlo | mindjuju: I saw that |
| 16:55.27 | utahcon | except I am so awesome! |
| 16:55.37 | herlo | utahcon: just because you declare it doesn't make it true :) |
| 16:55.41 | beandog | you have a lawn chair at work? |
| 16:55.49 | mindjuju | and a hammock |
| 16:55.53 | beandog | whut? |
| 16:55.53 | herlo | lol |
| 16:55.53 | utahcon | beandog: you don't? |
| 16:56.00 | beandog | utahcon, I just have cookies |
| 16:56.05 | beandog | and milk! |
| 16:56.06 | utahcon | beandog wins |
| 16:56.13 | herlo | but he's not there today |
| 16:56.14 | herlo | sick |
| 16:56.18 | herlo | again |
| 16:56.21 | beandog | Huh |
| 16:56.23 | utahcon | you mean you are "sick" |
| 16:56.29 | beandog | What a coincidence |
| 16:56.29 | utahcon | is that 3DayFlu you have? |
| 16:56.36 | mindjuju | yeah, "sick" |
| 16:56.44 | mindjuju | more like the 5day weekend "flu" |
| 16:56.45 | herlo | come on over and I'll give it to you |
| 16:56.50 | beandog | I think I'm coming down with something too |
| 16:56.51 | beandog | *cough* |
| 16:57.17 | mindjuju | have y'all seen the IT Crowd when Aunt Erma visits? |
| 16:57.30 | utahcon | mindjuju: nope |
| 16:57.39 | beandog | The office around here clears out early every Friday |
| 16:57.42 | mindjuju | oh that's sad |
| 16:57.45 | beandog | I bet I could go out right now and most of the cars are gone |
| 16:58.12 | herlo | feeling better than yesterday, but still not well |
| 16:58.15 | utahcon | beandog: today is "jeans" day --- aka the important people aren't coming in today |
| 16:58.48 | beandog | well my boss is wearing shorts ... that translates to productivity is unexpected today |
| 16:58.56 | beandog | or at least, that's how I read it. |
| 16:58.58 | utahcon | I wish I was wearing shorts |
| 16:59.01 | utahcon | pants are for suckers |
| 17:00.30 | beandog | You're right |
| 17:00.40 | utahcon | oh my |
| 17:00.45 | beandog | I feel a draft ... |
| 17:01.00 | mindjuju | i get my pants done with a double stitch |
| 17:01.17 | utahcon | mindjuju: then you are double suckered |
| 17:02.00 | orsonj | I just got reminded of an Americas Funnies Home Videos where a sword swallower dropped his pants mid swallow |
| 17:02.42 | mindjuju | oh man, all you guys fail |
| 17:05.27 | utahcon | mindjuju: are you making reference to Hudsucker Proxy? |
| 17:05.33 | mindjuju | yup |
| 17:05.37 | utahcon | blam! |
| 17:05.39 | utahcon | love that flick |
| 17:05.50 | mindjuju | that's some strong stitch,t hat double stitch! |
| 17:06.08 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjLUMG4Kpf4 |
| 17:07.30 | utahcon | XMRadio/Sirius app just hit Android Marketplace... full price subscription $13.95/mo for the service... fail |
| 17:07.53 | beandog | utahcon, is that *with* an existing sub? |
| 17:08.02 | beandog | an addtl $14/mo? |
| 17:08.13 | utahcon | beandog: I believe it is included... |
| 17:08.15 | utahcon | could be wrong |
| 17:08.29 | beandog | Last I checked, they charged you a base sub fee |
| 17:08.34 | utahcon | or not |
| 17:08.36 | beandog | plus an extra $8 or so for extra "radios" |
| 17:08.48 | utahcon | I think it was $3 when my mom looked into it |
| 17:09.03 | utahcon | no point in paying extra for radio |
| 17:09.31 | utahcon | when you can have pandora etc for free |
| 17:09.32 | utahcon | :D |
| 17:09.44 | orsonj | all my car listening is filled with podcasts |
| 17:09.46 | utahcon | my wife listens to pandora in the car on her Android |
| 17:10.02 | beandog | pandora is nice |
| 17:10.05 | beandog | I have it on my Roku |
| 17:10.09 | utahcon | hmmm |
| 17:10.19 | beandog | which reminds me ....... the new netflix channel goes live today! *little girl squeal* |
| 17:10.22 | utahcon | XMRadio for $150/yr or... Grooveshark VIP for $30/yr |
| 17:10.27 | mindjuju | oh man, this is BGM to a T, or at least back in the day |
| 17:10.28 | utahcon | both had web apps |
| 17:10.28 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLOAXDb6fps |
| 17:10.33 | utahcon | both have android apps |
| 17:10.44 | utahcon | oh and grooveshark lets you build you own lists... |
| 17:10.45 | utahcon | right |
| 17:10.50 | utahcon | fantastic |
| 17:11.23 | utahcon | mindjuju: you had mail tubes? |
| 17:11.26 | fungus | I still like the idea of buying the music I like, and shuffle |
| 17:11.39 | mindjuju | all the hoops you had to jump through |
| 17:11.51 | mindjuju | it goes here, then it goes there, then back here, then new place |
| 17:12.02 | utahcon | "the dancing dingus" -- "the belly go round" |
| 17:12.11 | mindjuju | i love the marketing boys |
| 17:12.20 | beandog | utahcon, Id definitely pay for the one that customizes my stream |
| 17:12.25 | beandog | if grooveshark does, no idea.. |
| 17:13.15 | utahcon | beandog: http://vip.grooveshark.com/gspromo_hidead_VIP%20%3C-%3E%20Awesome |
| 17:13.36 | beandog | evertime I load up grooveshark, it crashes my browser |
| 17:13.53 | utahcon | fix your flash |
| 17:13.58 | beandog | oh is that it? |
| 17:14.01 | beandog | that'd make sense. |
| 17:14.24 | utahcon | Grooveshark is damn close to getting my monies |
| 17:14.48 | beandog | what is it anyway |
| 17:14.51 | beandog | similar to pandora, etc? |
| 17:15.06 | utahcon | beandog: sorta |
| 17:15.09 | utahcon | you pick your own tunes |
| 17:15.13 | utahcon | there are radio stations |
| 17:15.18 | utahcon | but they aren't tailored |
| 17:15.34 | utahcon | if they worked in tailoring for when I am too lazy to pick my own music that would be a sale. |
| 17:15.45 | beandog | Hmm |
| 17:15.52 | beandog | thats why I like last.fm ... it always find me new music I like |
| 17:16.21 | utahcon | VIP works with Last.fm for scrobbling, but I am unsure of the level of integration there |
| 17:16.29 | utahcon | would be nice if they explained it better |
| 17:16.41 | optikal | Yeah, I've been a Grooveshark subscriber for awhile |
| 17:16.54 | optikal | I havent touhced my own music collection, Pandora, or Last.fm for streaming in a couple months |
| 17:17.16 | utahcon | optikal: does it tailor as a subscriber? |
| 17:17.50 | optikal | Tailor as in what? |
| 17:18.09 | optikal | You can turn on radio mode in any playlist and it'll add a song or two based on the last song in the PL |
| 17:18.23 | optikal | They're refining the radio mode now to take the whole playlist into account |
| 17:18.27 | optikal | But it works p well |
| 17:18.35 | utahcon | see now that is what I am talking about |
| 17:18.41 | utahcon | ok |
| 17:18.44 | utahcon | I am going to get an account |
| 17:18.56 | utahcon | optikal: do you know if you can stream in multiple places at once? |
| 17:18.59 | optikal | Add me as a friend when you do, "optikal" |
| 17:19.00 | utahcon | 1 account per family? |
| 17:19.09 | optikal | Yeah, unlimited connections per account |
| 17:19.14 | optikal | VIP is required for mobile phone streaming though |
| 17:19.37 | utahcon | optikal: yeah saw that |
| 17:19.38 | optikal | AFAIK at least (on the unlimited connections). I've been connected in 4 places at once np, dont know if they monitor that |
| 17:19.41 | utahcon | which is cool with me |
| 17:19.56 | optikal | VIP is worth it for the desktop app for me, and to support them |
| 17:20.03 | influx | Not sure I should have paid for Pandora One a couple weeks ago now. |
| 17:20.05 | optikal | The rest is icing on the cake |
| 17:20.07 | utahcon | is the desktop app AIR? |
| 17:20.12 | optikal | Yeah, it's AIR |
| 17:20.26 | utahcon | do you have it on windows or linux? |
| 17:20.30 | optikal | Both. |
| 17:20.35 | utahcon | does it flake out as much as the web app? |
| 17:20.48 | utahcon | although I suspect flash is the problem with my web app |
| 17:20.49 | optikal | The web app never flaked on me, nor does the desktop app. |
| 17:21.07 | utahcon | your flash is better than mine :D |
| 17:21.17 | utahcon | or fungus is messing with my network |
| 17:21.32 | optikal | The new community feature for Grooveshark is awwesome |
| 17:21.39 | optikal | I can't wait until I get some more friends to make use of it |
| 17:21.42 | fungus | lol |
| 17:21.47 | fungus | not messing. |
| 17:21.48 | optikal | tierra is my only friend, heh. |
| 17:21.51 | fungus | this time |
| 17:22.04 | optikal | Subscribed playlists are slick too |
| 17:22.09 | utahcon | fungus: did you just reenable the sonicwall? |
| 17:22.26 | utahcon | today is the only day in a long time I have hit it |
| 17:22.45 | fungus | oh yeah. I did that yesterday. doing some cleanup. |
| 17:22.58 | utahcon | damn you fungus |
| 17:23.03 | fungus | doh |
| 17:23.06 | utahcon | here i wa thinking we were allowed to partake in social media |
| 17:23.08 | utahcon | but NO!!! |
| 17:23.11 | mindjuju | beandog, 2TB hdd hitachi |
| 17:23.12 | utahcon | it was all a teaser |
| 17:23.15 | mindjuju | $119 |
| 17:23.22 | utahcon | mindjuju: where? |
| 17:23.33 | fungus | nope. you just had a special exception for your SOAP stuff when it was borked |
| 17:23.36 | mindjuju | it's going to cost ya to find out |
| 17:23.40 | mindjuju | let's say $5 |
| 17:23.48 | mindjuju | jk - http://www.frys.com/template/onad/product_navigation/spot6 |
| 17:23.59 | mindjuju | about half way down, first col |
| 17:24.21 | utahcon | not bad |
| 17:24.29 | utahcon | $10 more on Newegg for a Seagate |
| 17:25.03 | optikal | Which I'd avoid. |
| 17:25.05 | utahcon | grooveshark fail! Refund policy is a 404 |
| 17:25.17 | optikal | Seagate's desktop line has been horrible the past year or two. |
| 17:25.27 | optikal | I know so many people who have dealt with failures |
| 17:25.49 | optikal | Just do 1 month for $3 until your familiar |
| 17:25.53 | optikal | *you're |
| 17:26.18 | utahcon | well yeah |
| 17:26.21 | utahcon | they don't refund |
| 17:26.36 | utahcon | that is retarded |
| 17:27.12 | utahcon | "Many think that the Grooveshark Desktop can be used to listen to music while not connected to the internet." -- many people are retarded |
| 17:27.22 | optikal | haha yeah |
| 17:27.28 | optikal | The mobile apps will cache a huge amount |
| 17:27.40 | optikal | You can select a playlist of up to like, 2gb of music, and have it cache it for offline play |
| 17:27.44 | optikal | I wish the desktop app did that. :l |
| 17:27.54 | optikal | But really, I always have a connection so it's nbd |
| 17:28.21 | utahcon | that actually is smart to cache it... |
| 17:28.22 | macnewbold | utahcon: don't you just use ssh tunnels when The Man is getting you down? |
| 17:28.27 | mindjuju | 2gb? isn't that like half of the bandwidth you get with an "unlimited" data plan? |
| 17:28.28 | utahcon | you are right the desktop app should |
| 17:28.32 | optikal | The desktop app caches the track infront of it in the PL |
| 17:28.41 | utahcon | macnewbold: not since fungus's boss said no more |
| 17:28.50 | macnewbold | no ssh tunnels? wth? |
| 17:28.55 | optikal | mindjuju: Depends on your carrier~ |
| 17:29.04 | macnewbold | tunnels on port 443 are the bomb |
| 17:30.04 | orsonj | yes they are |
| 17:31.03 | optikal | utahcon: Spineshank eh? |
| 17:31.14 | optikal | Good stuff. |
| 17:31.14 | fungus | macnewbold, that gives me a new idea... |
| 17:31.15 | utahcon | optikal: I have been in a very violent mood lately |
| 17:31.26 | optikal | utahcon: Listen to any Dry Kill Logic? |
| 17:31.29 | Utah_Dave | I've been using grooveshark for a week or so. I like that I can search and find most music that I want. |
| 17:31.30 | macnewbold | fungus: to tighten down the security, or get aroudn it? |
| 17:31.31 | fungus | I'll turn on my content inspection stuff to look for SSH on any port. |
| 17:31.32 | utahcon | Spineshank, Five Finger Death Punch, Killswitch Engage |
| 17:31.35 | Utah_Dave | But I find the interface very confusing |
| 17:31.40 | influx | test |
| 17:31.41 | utahcon | DKL is ok at times |
| 17:31.56 | optikal | P similar to Spineshank imo |
| 17:32.15 | macnewbold | actually, i wonder if anyone's set up ssh tunnels over https... |
| 17:32.26 | macnewbold | i.e. arbitrary TCP traffic tunneled over https |
| 17:32.32 | optikal | I'm in the middle of doing a funk metal/funk playlist of stuff that'll fit well alongside Infectious Grooves |
| 17:32.55 | macnewbold | since its all encrypted before the content inspection can do anythign with it, it would be pretty hard to block |
| 17:33.17 | utahcon | optikal: they need better categorizing and album dates in GS |
| 17:33.29 | fungus | If it's using the HTTPS protocol it would be hard to block, since we can't block that. |
| 17:33.30 | macnewbold | just like the content inspection can't really tell if i'm https'ing my bank or something else, other than knowing the ip i'm talking to |
| 17:33.41 | fungus | but if it's just SSH over port 443 it can be done. |
| 17:33.44 | macnewbold | yeah, true |
| 17:33.46 | macnewbold | :( |
| 17:33.46 | optikal | utahcon: Yup. It's far from perfect, there's a handful of things that bug me but it's leaps better than Pandora, Last.fm, or Rhapsody. |
| 17:33.59 | macnewbold | i'm glad they don't have any smart sysadmins where i work |
| 17:34.09 | fungus | macnewbold, they do. :) |
| 17:34.22 | influx | :D |
| 17:34.32 | macnewbold | well, so far i haven't found anything they're blocking that i can't get aorund, i guess... |
| 17:34.38 | fungus | lol |
| 17:34.42 | utahcon | lol |
| 17:35.03 | mindjuju | i heard FreeBSD stinks and has huge security issues, is that true? |
| 17:35.06 | utahcon | Although I am sure I could find ways around Fungus and his boss, at some point they will get tired of chasing me down and just shit can me |
| 17:35.23 | optikal | That's not saying much... it's pretty easy to get around most office filtering unless it's really, really locked down. |
| 17:35.45 | mindjuju | macnewbold^^ |
| 17:35.53 | macnewbold | ~salute mindjuju |
| 17:35.54 | ibot | ACTION shows mindjuju how to count in binary on his fingers... then stops conspiciously on the number 4 |
| 17:35.56 | optikal | mindjuju: Yeah, it's open source... so anyone can read the code and knows all the security holes! |
| 17:36.00 | optikal | ;) |
| 17:36.36 | macnewbold | it's fun how in irc sometimes you can make bots do things taht you'd never ever dream of doing yourself... |
| 17:37.11 | utahcon | It has so many meanings |
| 17:37.16 | macnewbold | you know what they say... live by the finger, die by the finger |
| 17:37.16 | utahcon | I use it like a wave hello |
| 17:37.21 | macnewbold | which could really hurt |
| 17:37.57 | influx | optikal: How do I add you as a friend on Grooveshark? |
| 17:38.10 | influx | Do I just click on the heart? |
| 17:38.12 | optikal | Yup |
| 17:38.15 | optikal | Cause you love sme. |
| 17:38.17 | optikal | *loves me |
| 17:38.21 | utahcon | yeah the heart was weird |
| 17:38.24 | optikal | Heart = Favorite |
| 17:38.24 | utahcon | maybe a + |
| 17:38.28 | influx | heh |
| 17:38.30 | utahcon | optikal: is my favorite! |
| 17:38.34 | influx | heh |
| 17:38.44 | influx | Done. |
| 17:38.59 | utahcon | ok who else is on Grooveshark... let's all get linked |
| 17:39.08 | optikal | tierra = ibaku |
| 17:39.13 | optikal | on Grooveshark |
| 17:39.17 | optikal | That's all I know :kl |
| 17:39.19 | optikal | :l |
| 17:39.33 | tierra | yeah, add me |
| 17:40.08 | utahcon | added |
| 17:42.34 | influx | hey optikal |
| 17:42.43 | optikal | hey influx |
| 17:42.55 | tierra | heh, they changed the crossfade icon... kinda glad they did, it kind of just looked like another shuffle icon |
| 17:43.22 | influx | you might like to know: The Hood Internet mashed up a Crystal Castle's song with a rapper's song. I forget the rapper's name, but the Crystal Castles track used is Alice Practice. |
| 17:43.35 | optikal | utahcon: If you subscribe make sure to use preview.grooveshark.com instead of listen.grooveshark.com as the web player |
| 17:43.49 | optikal | It'll give you all the new VIP features they're beta testing |
| 17:43.58 | tierra | I've had problems getting the fullscreen visualizations working in Windows, but it works fine in Linux |
| 17:44.04 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJGMFu74a70 |
| 17:44.05 | beandog | tjat |
| 17:44.09 | beandog | that'd be a good talk to hear |
| 17:44.28 | optikal | tierra: Full screen visualizations? |
| 17:44.41 | tierra | yeah, the ones built into the web app and desktop app |
| 17:44.52 | optikal | o_O |
| 17:44.54 | optikal | Where |
| 17:44.56 | optikal | heh |
| 17:45.06 | tierra | hit the fullscreen button |
| 17:45.09 | optikal | k.. |
| 17:45.43 | tierra | er, actually, I think it's only in the web app |
| 17:45.45 | tierra | not desktop |
| 17:45.54 | optikal | ooh weird. I never use the web app anymore |
| 17:46.18 | optikal | Visualizations in a web app, that's... groovy. |
| 17:46.50 | tierra | they kind of suck overall, not exactly milkdrop, heh |
| 17:46.59 | utahcon | must be in the VIP I dont see it |
| 17:47.03 | tierra | but it's cool that it has them at all |
| 17:47.14 | tierra | yeah, VIP only |
| 17:47.33 | optikal | Nothing really comes close to Milkdrop, so not surprising |
| 17:47.39 | utahcon | optikal: do you use the Pirate language option? |
| 17:48.13 | optikal | hehe, no |
| 17:48.17 | optikal | Never even noticed it |
| 17:48.37 | optikal | hehe, "Treasure Chests" instead of playlists |
| 17:48.45 | optikal | Me Booty instead of My Library |
| 17:49.13 | influx | ha |
| 17:51.29 | influx | optikal: The Pack vs. Crystal Castles |
| 17:52.22 | tierra | who's boucha? |
| 17:52.34 | tierra | oh, awesome |
| 17:52.55 | Utah_Dave | sorry, I just saw everyone friending eachother in Grooveshark, so I joined in. :) |
| 17:53.24 | optikal | influx: oh interesting, I'll listen in a moment |
| 17:53.29 | optikal | <3 Crystal Castles |
| 17:53.46 | orsonj | so, 2 Crystal Castles ;) |
| 17:53.57 | optikal | hur hur |
| 17:54.41 | influx | :D |
| 17:55.07 | influx | influxmcgee is my GS name, for anyone that cares. |
| 17:57.21 | beandog | heh |
| 17:58.33 | optikal | Is it really? Cause I added "influx", heh |
| 17:58.40 | influx | Yep. influxmcgee |
| 17:58.43 | influx | someone already has influx |
| 17:58.57 | optikal | I was following utahcon's lead, he added you first heh |
| 17:59.02 | influx | heh |
| 17:59.05 | influx | boucha? |
| 17:59.31 | optikal | Fixed |
| 17:59.36 | optikal | That's Utah_Dave |
| 18:01.29 | influx | Hah. Who's Kittypee? |
| 18:01.48 | optikal | hahaha |
| 18:01.55 | influx | Hehehe. |
| 18:02.14 | herlo | or was it .org |
| 18:02.17 | fungus | still do |
| 18:02.42 | fungus | just really lame right now. |
| 18:05.32 | tierra | when I'm feeling in a joking mood, I sometimes put tierra@hotsteamyteens.com as my email address (which is a valid email) on pen-written forms |
| 18:05.51 | influx | do you own HST now? |
| 18:05.53 | fungus | lol |
| 18:06.01 | tierra | no, com4 still does |
| 18:06.06 | influx | word |
| 18:07.32 | tierra | it's best on written forms since you know someone is putting that into a computer somewhere |
| 18:26.52 | Utah_Dave | This is sweet. Quadrotor - rc helicopter with 4 rotors. |
| 18:27.01 | Utah_Dave | Check out the video: http://fling.seas.upenn.edu/~dmel/wiki/index.php?n=Main.Quadrotor |
| 18:28.31 | influx | goto now |
| 18:28.34 | influx | whoops |
| 18:29.43 | *** join/#uphpu supernovia (~Adium@76.8.222.23) |
| 18:30.25 | influx | hola super |
| 18:30.28 | influx | como estas |
| 18:34.12 | supernovia | hola influx, bien gracias! Y tu? |
| 18:35.24 | supernovia | soy animasso~! (though I still suck at Spanish0 |
| 18:35.34 | supernovia | s/0/)/ |
| 18:40.46 | beandog | Oy. |
| 18:41.07 | supernovia | What's up, beandog |
| 18:41.14 | fungus | ~x es en soy animasso~! |
| 18:41.16 | beandog | dizzy |
| 18:41.32 | beandog | I hope Im not getting sick. |
| 18:41.43 | beandog | and I don't mean "sick" |
| 18:42.08 | supernovia | I hope you're not getting sick. :-( veritgo stinketh |
| 18:42.18 | supernovia | s/veritgo/vertigo/ |
| 18:42.31 | beandog | maybe I should just mosey over to great harvest |
| 18:42.35 | beandog | get me a sammich |
| 18:45.57 | beandog | in fact, I think Im gonna do that |
| 18:47.23 | optikal | Utah_Dave: Very cool link |
| 18:47.31 | influx | supernovia: bien bien. estoy bien. Almorzando. |
| 18:47.37 | optikal | I was just talking about rc choppers with my gf last night, heh |
| 18:49.31 | Utah_Dave | optikal: thought so too. That would be cool to get one of those |
| 18:50.06 | optikal | Yeah it would. I've wanted an rc chopper for awhile, I have a PC simulator with a remote so I can learn without wrecking 20 of em |
| 18:50.26 | optikal | I currently have a nitromethane powered RC truck... the Traxxis Savage 21, that's highly modified |
| 18:52.37 | supernovia | good times, influx. I just finished uh⦠grazing for lack of better words. they bring in a ton of fruits, veggies, donuts, and bagels on fridays so I had a plate full at my desk that I've been pilfering all day |
| 18:52.46 | influx | :D |
| 18:53.37 | Utah_Dave | nice! |
| 18:55.19 | supernovia | I am so ⦠ridiculously ⦠happy |
| 18:56.07 | supernovia | but I think I say that too much these days. hehe. |
| 18:57.29 | fungus | it must be as windy/gloomy down there then. Really depressing |
| 18:59.04 | fungus | s/must/must not/ |
| 19:00.48 | DexterTheDragon | http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2010/05/28/child-star-gary-coleman-dead/ |
| 19:02.04 | influx | Gary Coleman very recently (today) passed away in a Provo hospital. |
| 19:02.07 | influx | :| |
| 19:02.09 | supernovia | d'oh |
| 19:02.27 | influx | oh DtD, sorry. didn't see that. |
| 19:02.32 | fungus | that is really sad. |
| 19:02.38 | influx | Yeah. |
| 19:02.53 | fungus | To die in a Provo hospital... :( |
| 19:03.21 | optikal | haha |
| 19:03.23 | supernovia | fungus it was gorgeous out this morning - did the weather go bad? |
| 19:03.32 | fungus | yes. :( |
| 19:03.34 | optikal | It has in SL :( |
| 19:03.39 | optikal | All dark and gloomy |
| 19:03.47 | herlo | supernovia: looks like rain for sure soon |
| 19:04.02 | supernovia | I was gonna hike tomorrow though - would kinda stink if it rained |
| 19:04.13 | optikal | supernovia: Where to? |
| 19:04.21 | supernovia | Twin Peaks |
| 19:04.31 | optikal | Packin some snowshoes I take it? |
| 19:04.35 | supernovia | first hike of the year. Nope |
| 19:04.43 | optikal | Have fun post holing, heh |
| 19:05.09 | supernovia | yeah I don't know whether I'll go - I don't have good boots and I suppose my shoes would be slick on the snow (with their round bottoms and all) |
| 19:05.35 | optikal | haha |
| 19:05.47 | optikal | I'd recommend a hike lower in elevation, you'll hit deep snow real quick doing Twin Peaks |
| 19:05.58 | optikal | Lake Blanche isn't even accessible w/o snowshoes |
| 19:06.15 | supernovia | let me see where they say they're going exactly - there's a hiking group that goes out - this is their first non-snowshoeing hike this year |
| 19:06.24 | beandog | its cold out there |
| 19:07.01 | optikal | Not a big deal when hiking |
| 19:07.27 | optikal | I did Lake Blanche with snowshoes a month and a half ago and stripped down to just my t-shirt and pants almost immediately and was still sweating, heh |
| 19:07.44 | supernovia | I haven't been hiking since november or so though ;-S |
| 19:07.54 | supernovia | is twin peaks hard? |
| 19:08.07 | optikal | It's not easy. |
| 19:08.16 | supernovia | hmmm |
| 19:08.41 | optikal | It's the highest peak in SLC/Wasatch |
| 19:08.48 | optikal | 11,330ft |
| 19:09.11 | optikal | http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock/150522/broads-fork-twin-peaks.html |
| 19:09.25 | optikal | Snow lingers in upper Broads Fork well into July most years. Mostly dry climbing can usually be found from July through September. |
| 19:09.34 | optikal | It's a great time of the year for Moab or the San Rafael Swell |
| 19:09.48 | optikal | I'm doing Moab next weekend, did SRS 2 weekends ago, and was in Sedona, AZ about a month ago. |
| 19:11.03 | supernovia | this looks like it'd be bad news in my shoes :-/ |
| 19:11.18 | supernovia | but then if I -don't- go |
| 19:11.22 | fungus | If I can't hike it in my sandals I don't wanna go |
| 19:12.46 | fungus | especially really hot places like Moab |
| 19:13.36 | optikal | hehe, I attempted Grandeur Peak almost 2mos in my Vibram Five Fingers |
| 19:13.44 | optikal | Snow was such a PITA in those |
| 19:13.48 | optikal | We got 3/4 of the way there though |
| 19:14.27 | fungus | Cool, I want some of those. they look like fun. |
| 19:14.37 | optikal | They're pretty damn awesome |
| 19:14.45 | optikal | I also dig Ding & Dang canyon in the San Rafael Swell in them |
| 19:14.50 | beandog | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3367/3580831769_11e8eab96e_o.jpg |
| 19:14.51 | beandog | wth? |
| 19:14.54 | optikal | They're not ideal for canyoneering, but I managed |
| 19:17.59 | supernovia | that is nuts beandog :-S |
| 19:19.34 | optikal | fungus: http://picasaweb.google.com/optikal801/SanRafaelSwell#5469515199822989522 |
| 19:20.30 | mindjuju | awesome pics optikal |
| 19:20.36 | optikal | Thanks |
| 19:23.59 | fungus | really cool. Maybe i'll splurge and get me some |
| 19:25.36 | optikal | They're awesome for norm hikes and running |
| 19:25.47 | optikal | You can really feel the elements under your feet without it hurting or getting all dirty |
| 19:34.43 | beandog | My boss just told me to not stick around too long |
| 19:34.50 | optikal | haha |
| 19:34.51 | optikal | nice |
| 19:34.52 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:34.54 | optikal | I'm out of here in an hour |
| 19:35.40 | mindjuju | 've got to be on campus this afternoon so i got to be out of here in 2 hrs |
| 19:35.49 | mindjuju | well, 1.5 hrs |
| 19:36.04 | beandog | so |
| 19:36.12 | beandog | who wants to do a star wars movie marathon |
| 19:36.21 | mindjuju | all 6? |
| 19:36.29 | mindjuju | well, that's wrong out right |
| 19:36.30 | beandog | nah, prequels |
| 19:36.41 | mindjuju | i guess its all 8 |
| 19:36.46 | beandog | 8? |
| 19:36.51 | beandog | are you counting the ewoks ones? |
| 19:36.51 | mindjuju | yup |
| 19:37.07 | mindjuju | i jsut know of the one ewok adventure and star wars christmas |
| 19:37.07 | beandog | I dont think I have that much beer. |
| 19:37.33 | beandog | Actually its 9 if you count Clone Wars |
| 19:37.45 | beandog | 10 with the Holiday special |
| 19:37.47 | mindjuju | the cartoony things? |
| 19:37.55 | mindjuju | i thought that was a TV show |
| 19:38.00 | beandog | mindjuju, theres a movie too |
| 19:38.16 | mindjuju | something ala KOTOR? |
| 19:38.21 | beandog | ah, si |
| 19:38.30 | mindjuju | KOTOR rocks the galaxy |
| 19:38.31 | fungus | eh, anything beyond ep. 1-6 is not an option |
| 19:38.56 | mindjuju | you know what WOULD be cool, is making movies out of Timothy Zahn books |
| 19:39.03 | mindjuju | you could call it 7,8,9 |
| 19:39.10 | beandog | mindjuju, yes! |
| 19:39.11 | supernovia | ~8ball |
| 19:39.12 | ibot | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Concentrate and ask again |
| 19:39.17 | mindjuju | ^5 beandog |
| 19:39.22 | beandog | mindjuju, ^5 |
| 19:39.24 | mindjuju | them were some MIGHTY fine books |
| 19:39.24 | beandog | Those are soooo good |
| 19:39.33 | beandog | that quasi-Jedi dude |
| 19:39.34 | beandog | Oh man |
| 19:39.35 | beandog | ++ |
| 19:39.58 | mindjuju | yup |
| 19:40.07 | mindjuju | and those animals that null the force |
| 19:40.09 | beandog | I dunno if I can sit through episode 1 |
| 19:40.15 | beandog | #2 and #3 are awesome tho |
| 19:40.24 | fungus | agree |
| 19:40.37 | fungus | but you can't outright skip it |
| 19:40.45 | beandog | what if you just watched the podraces? |
| 19:41.03 | fungus | just skip over all the jar jar stuff |
| 19:41.09 | mindjuju | its funny you say pod races, the new star wars adventure at disney is going to be that |
| 19:41.11 | beandog | I actually like Jar Jar ... |
| 19:41.29 | fungus | very sad |
| 19:41.40 | mindjuju | beandog, when the villas head to disneyworld some year for the jedi academy, i'll make sure you're invited |
| 19:41.49 | beandog | mindjuju, really?? dude, Im so coming. |
| 19:42.13 | mindjuju | maybe next summer? it's going to take some time to raise that kind of $$$ |
| 19:42.45 | mindjuju | this is to whet your appetitie |
| 19:42.46 | mindjuju | http://disneyland.disney.go.com/disneyland/en_US/parks/entertainment/detail?name=JediTrainingAcademyEntertainmentPage&bhcp=1 |
| 19:43.01 | mindjuju | Corban doesn't know it exists yet, dont want to tell him until i have the funds |
| 19:44.01 | mindjuju | i still don't understand why there isn't a Star wars land somewhere |
| 19:44.23 | mindjuju | Eat lunch at Mos Esley cantina |
| 19:44.27 | beandog | mindjuju, because theres a Star Wars land in all of us |
| 19:44.50 | mindjuju | i mean, they made one for that pesky Harry potter |
| 19:44.57 | beandog | mindjuju, oh... my ... freaking .. awesome |
| 19:45.10 | beandog | must experience! |
| 19:45.11 | mindjuju | Harry Potter == the Scooby Doo of magic |
| 19:45.24 | mindjuju | somehow he's in the right place at the right time, avoids dying and solves the mystery |
| 19:45.50 | supernovia | my kids need to see starwars still :S |
| 19:46.04 | beandog | I dont think mindjuju's kids have seen it either |
| 19:46.07 | supernovia | s/starwars/Star Wars/ |
| 19:46.19 | mindjuju | Corban has seen all 6 now, but the last one just at his 7th birthday |
| 19:46.29 | mindjuju | but we all sat together and watched and talked about them |
| 19:46.34 | mindjuju | the last one was hard for him though |
| 19:46.39 | beandog | how come? |
| 19:47.10 | beandog | I should get a copy of the original VHS tapes ... before that cut disappears from history |
| 19:47.13 | mindjuju | well, revenge of the sith where Anakin attacks Amadala |
| 19:47.26 | beandog | mindjuju, oh, episode 3? |
| 19:47.29 | beandog | thats not the last one |
| 19:47.37 | beandog | did you watch them in reverse order? |
| 19:47.42 | mindjuju | well, the last one in issue sequence |
| 19:47.48 | mindjuju | we watched them in the proper order |
| 19:47.56 | mindjuju | star wars 4,5,6 then 1,2,3 |
| 19:47.58 | fungus | supernovia, that's funny. I have a tiny living room and a giant tv |
| 19:48.41 | mindjuju | LoTR on the other hand, I don't think he'll see that until 8 or 9 |
| 19:48.57 | mindjuju | books ok, but movie, i think will hold |
| 19:50.23 | mindjuju | whats wrong with LOTR? |
| 19:50.36 | beandog | mindjuju, they ARE on BluRay now tho |
| 19:50.41 | beandog | so we can do a GMN and watch em |
| 19:50.59 | fungus | I'm waiting for the extended versions on bluray |
| 19:51.16 | mindjuju | its a trap! |
| 19:51.29 | beandog | The DVD ones are letterbox!! |
| 19:51.30 | beandog | *grawr* |
| 19:51.32 | mindjuju | Han shot first! |
| 19:51.42 | beandog | mindjuju, oh boy ... you're one of *those* |
| 19:51.47 | mindjuju | he did |
| 19:51.50 | mindjuju | i'm just saying |
| 19:52.07 | mindjuju | han ain't no chump |
| 19:52.34 | beandog | I wonder if Star Wars will get re-released in theaters in 3-D |
| 19:52.42 | beandog | boy I'd pay $$$ for that |
| 19:52.51 | beandog | like, regular ticket price. |
| 19:53.14 | mindjuju | oh talking about rerelease, did you see they are doing a Grease rerelease "now with Sing-a-Long" |
| 19:53.23 | mindjuju | movie was overrated to begin with |
| 19:53.33 | mindjuju | and i have to endure it again? |
| 19:53.44 | herlo | lol |
| 19:54.02 | beandog | sing-a-long? |
| 19:54.04 | beandog | srsly? |
| 19:54.07 | mindjuju | i crap you not |
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| 19:54.29 | mindjuju | now, if Sandy were played by Jennifer Connelly, that'd be a step up |
| 19:54.39 | beandog | shes a hawtie |
| 19:54.45 | beandog | mindjuju, you see Dark City? |
| 19:54.47 | fungus | Some movies are meant to be sing-a-long. Though Grease it not one of them IMHO |
| 19:55.00 | mindjuju | didn't see dark city |
| 19:55.15 | beandog | aweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesome sci-fi flick |
| 19:55.16 | fungus | Jennifer Connelly wouldn't look good as a blonde, and Sandy has to be blonde. |
| 19:55.39 | mindjuju | k, here is the trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5wvrZONZog |
| 19:55.43 | beandog | mindjuju, don't show it to your kids though |
| 19:55.55 | beandog | mindjuju, oh wow you werent kidding! |
| 19:56.08 | mindjuju | and the whole thing with the lyrics karoke style, ....PAH LEESE |
| 19:56.26 | beandog | just when you thought Hollywood couldnt get more desperate ... or vain |
| 19:56.35 | mindjuju | fungus, why does sandy have to be blonde? |
| 19:56.37 | beandog | mindjuju, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSpowoKqSzc |
| 19:56.48 | beandog | note to self: quit slacking and pick up the score |
| 19:56.50 | mindjuju | blondes are overrated |
| 19:57.03 | fungus | because that's the character Sandy is. |
| 19:57.04 | beandog | fungus, back me up on this one |
| 19:57.52 | mindjuju | it's funny how they cleaned up the lyrics for the trailer |
| 19:57.54 | fungus | mindjuju, yes, Dark City is a great movie. |
| 19:59.13 | beandog | I dunno why that one is R ... |
| 19:59.13 | mindjuju | there are several things in that Greased Lightning song we had to clean up when we did it for a HS musical |
| 19:59.13 | beandog | I mean, aside from being miserably dark and depressing |
| 19:59.13 | beandog | I think they show some of the dudes getting sliced up |
| 19:59.13 | mindjuju | dark city, i'll hve to check it out |
| 19:59.14 | mindjuju | i really want to watch akira |
| 19:59.17 | beandog | Okay, well everyone left work already .... way before I was planning to sneak out, too |
| 19:59.18 | fungus | Akira is one of the very few Anime movies I like |
| 19:59.33 | mindjuju | i've heard good things |
| 19:59.44 | fungus | Akira is not kid-safe though. but really good |
| 19:59.54 | mindjuju | oh and ghost in the shell |
| 19:59.57 | mindjuju | i want to watch that too |
| 20:00.27 | mindjuju | beandog, what do you think of this? |
| 20:00.27 | mindjuju | http://www.amazon.com/iFrogz-touch-Luxe-Green-Black/dp/B001MHZ5SW/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1275063292&sr=1-16 |
| 20:00.55 | fungus | mindjuju, go purple |
| 20:01.33 | mindjuju | i do like purple |
| 20:01.35 | beandog | ipods suck |
| 20:01.47 | beandog | mindjuju, but Im sure Ive seen a few people with that exact thing |
| 20:01.49 | beandog | they like it |
| 20:02.22 | mindjuju | oh they have a blue! |
| 20:02.23 | mindjuju | http://www.amazon.com/iFrogz-Luxe-Case-touch-Black/dp/B001MHXS3Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1275076903&sr=1-2 |
| 20:02.29 | mindjuju | i wonder if they have one with faux fur |
| 20:02.35 | fungus | lol |
| 20:03.11 | beandog | $18 for the CD? freak |
| 20:03.17 | beandog | For a movie 12 years old |
| 20:03.21 | beandog | No wonder the industry is dying. |
| 20:03.53 | beandog | Oh, wait |
| 20:03.56 | beandog | "music inspired" |
| 20:03.56 | beandog | suck. |
| 20:04.32 | mindjuju | @fungus - http://www.4-htechwizards.org/laptop-apple/leopard-animal-print-faux-fur-carrying-case-sleeve-for-apple-macbook-13-laptop-notebook.html/ |
| 20:04.33 | beandog | Oh the score is on there too |
| 20:04.46 | orsonj | heh, you know how in grade school they do an egg drop where you design something to keep it from breaking? |
| 20:04.50 | orsonj | They should do that for ipods |
| 20:04.57 | fungus | eww |
| 20:05.02 | mindjuju | rofl |
| 20:06.33 | mindjuju | i found them! |
| 20:06.36 | mindjuju | http://www.google.com/products?q=ipod+case+faux+fur&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=XyEATPfEOpL-Nf71gTw&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=image&resnum=11&ved=0CFYQzAMwCg |
| 20:06.41 | mindjuju | come to papa |
| 20:08.32 | beandog | mindjuju, oh .. wow |
| 20:08.38 | mindjuju | rofl |
| 20:09.24 | mindjuju | beandog, what you doing for memorial day? |
| 20:09.37 | beandog | mindjuju, I dunno yet .. I think Im gonna surprise my little bro and take him out somewhere. |
| 20:09.55 | mindjuju | zoinks! C + C music factory mixed into techno?? |
| 20:09.57 | mindjuju | ravetrax.com |
| 20:10.58 | beandog | I wanna finish playing my game of KOTOR2 too |
| 20:11.36 | beandog | with that mod |
| 20:11.36 | supernovia | ~8ball |
| 20:11.37 | ibot | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: It is decidedly so |
| 20:11.51 | beandog | In fact I think Im gonna take off .. |
| 20:12.01 | beandog | have a fantabulous weekend guys |
| 20:15.44 | orsonj | http://www.pelican.com/cases_detail.php?Case=i1015 |
| 20:16.00 | orsonj | for your iphone |
| 20:16.24 | orsonj | converts your iphone into an old style brick phone |
| 20:17.18 | beandog | k Im out |
| 20:17.19 | optikal | I need to get me one of those |
| 20:17.21 | beandog | don't forget your laptops at work |
| 20:17.24 | beandog | (like I almost do) |
| 20:17.24 | optikal | I have an otterbox for it |
| 20:17.41 | mindjuju | oh snap |
| 20:17.48 | mindjuju | orsonj! |
| 20:17.53 | mindjuju | WOW!!! |
| 20:18.27 | orsonj | or if you need a little more protection than that: http://www.pelican.com/cases_detail.php?Case=1120 |
| 20:18.42 | mindjuju | k, that's a little too much gun for me |
| 20:18.44 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:19.02 | mindjuju | wait, i have to get a quote for it |
| 20:19.07 | mindjuju | uh oh, it's going to be pricey |
| 20:20.05 | mindjuju | orsonj - http://www.amazon.com/Pelican-i1015-Black-iPhone-Resistant/dp/B002PJWHMS |
| 20:26.30 | optikal | influx: Just now getting around to the CC mix |
| 20:26.35 | optikal | 30s in and I'm loving it |
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| 20:30.16 | orsonj | twenty bucks, not bad |
| 20:30.37 | optikal | influx: Def awesome, keep sharing stuff like that~ |
| 20:30.43 | optikal | Just uploaded it to Grooveshark :) |
| 20:32.22 | orsonj | Booya!! http://www.stixfonts.org/ |
| 20:32.26 | orsonj | It's about time |
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| 20:38.52 | optikal | mindjuju: New dubstep mix by a local DJ: http://tinyurl.com/2udmdea |
| 20:39.09 | optikal | I honestly haven't listened to it, just figured I'd pass it on |
| 20:40.57 | mindjuju | awesome! thx |
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| 20:52.42 | optikal | mindjuju: Also, if you like dubstep you'd prob like bassline? Check out "First Time" here: http://www.myspace.com/fxlogikmusic |
| 20:52.52 | optikal | I have a whole bunch of FXLogik and other bassline at home |
| 20:54.17 | optikal | PM me if you want me to host it, I'm leaving for the day |
| 21:31.58 | utahcon | Gary Coleman is dead. |
| 21:34.15 | ninnypants | so I've heard |
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| 21:44.35 | orsonj | cool, just figured out how to run firefox (or anything else) under a different user in linux |
| 21:45.35 | fungus | Interesting idea, but what does that really buy you? |
| 21:46.03 | orsonj | xhost SI:localuser:firefoxuser; gksudo -gksudo -u webonly firefox |
| 21:46.15 | orsonj | xhost SI:localuser:firefoxuser; gksudo -u firefoxuser firefox |
| 21:46.36 | orsonj | If your browser gets hacked, it prevents it from damaging your personal files |
| 21:47.13 | orsonj | As a side effect, you can run different versions of firefox at the same time. |
| 21:55.21 | macnewbold | orsonj: is gksudo for gnome, kde, both, or something else? I haven't heard of it before. |
| 21:56.49 | fungus | macnewbold, gksudo is sudo with a gnome-y frontend |
| 22:00.22 | unum | so when you allow a user to upload a file do you generall pick a random file name for security concerns? |
| 22:01.04 | orsonj | that and about a hundred other things |
| 22:01.41 | unum | what other things |
| 22:01.46 | orsonj | file upload is scarry |
| 22:02.00 | DexterTheDragon | file serving is scary |
| 22:02.01 | unum | why not just increment it |
| 22:02.55 | orsonj | what kind of files? |
| 22:03.01 | unum | images |
| 22:03.27 | unum | the programmer then turns around and displays the image back to the user in the same script that upload it |
| 22:04.55 | unum | he has code like this : $filename=random(1,10000) while(exists($filename)){$filename=random(1,10000);} |
| 22:04.55 | orsonj | I think the list includes serving them from a different top level domain, storing the files outside of webroot and serving them via a carefully crafted script, storing the file names in a database (if you need to keep the file name anyhow), etc... |
| 22:05.35 | unum | I thought you meant there were other reasons for randomizing the name |
| 22:05.55 | unum | I swear I've seen that code on the dailywtf but I can't find it now |
| 22:06.16 | orsonj | no, other things to do for security reasons with file uploads |
| 22:07.51 | orsonj | you can pick a random file name to randomize the order of the display of images |
| 22:08.13 | orsonj | can't think of any other non security reasons to do it. |
| 22:09.02 | macnewbold | how about uniqueness? in case you upload the same filename twice |
| 22:09.03 | orsonj | well, it would reduce the chance of a filename collision |
| 22:09.10 | macnewbold | bingo |
| 22:10.58 | unum | macnewbold: why not just increment |
| 22:11.11 | unum | and grab the highest value filename and use the next one |
| 22:11.21 | unum | I guess if two people upload at the same time.... |
| 22:13.53 | macnewbold | and a little too predictable sometimes |
| 22:14.15 | unum | you mean for security reasons? |
| 22:14.20 | macnewbold | potentially |
| 22:14.24 | macnewbold | depends how you're using it |
| 22:16.49 | unum | well I ran into some code like that, the reason I was looking at it was because they had uploaded 10,000 images |
| 22:18.23 | Utah_Dave | unum: and they couldn't upload any more images? |
| 22:18.50 | unum | Utah_Dave: infinite loop |
| 22:18.59 | Utah_Dave | nice |
| 22:19.07 | unum | php was set to time out at 30 seconds |
| 22:19.18 | unum | so the script would die after 30 second and just have a blank page |
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| 23:16.36 | supernovia | have a good weekend, all! |
