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| 00:14.53 | orsonj | http://www.speedtest.net/result/825008929.png |
| 00:14.58 | orsonj | go broadband! |
| 00:16.33 | itimber | dang orsonj |
| 00:16.40 | itimber | what isp? |
| 00:16.45 | itimber | jab wireless?! |
| 00:16.48 | itimber | who is that |
| 00:16.53 | orsonj | Admitedly it is normally faster, but the slow does happen occasionally |
| 00:16.54 | orsonj | Digis |
| 00:17.04 | itimber | ah |
| 00:17.37 | itimber | oh.... I missread that.... thought it showed 39MB down, 23MB up |
| 00:17.54 | itimber | haha |
| 00:18.18 | itimber | wasn't digis supposed to be 7mb down? |
| 00:18.30 | orsonj | I'm on the 2mb plan |
| 00:18.42 | itimber | oh gotcha |
| 00:18.59 | itimber | I'm out guys... take 'er easy |
| 00:19.29 | orsonj | oh, I was downloading something during that test, here is a better sample: http://www.speedtest.net/result/825011488.png |
| 00:22.16 | fungus | yikes |
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| 03:05.32 | influx | beandog? |
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| 15:24.56 | beandog | buenos |
| 15:27.37 | itimber | morning guys |
| 15:27.43 | utahcon | morning |
| 15:28.21 | influx | beandogio |
| 15:28.42 | influx | regex question: Can I stick a pair of brackets inside of brackets and have things work? |
| 15:29.48 | beandog | I think you have to escape them |
| 15:29.53 | fungus | like this /[\[\]]/ ? |
| 15:30.01 | beandog | like that |
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| 15:31.19 | influx | Does that mean the inner pair of brackets are being searched for instead of being interpreted? |
| 15:32.41 | beandog | uh .. yes |
| 15:33.02 | beandog | You use [] to match those characters |
| 15:33.02 | influx | :3 |
| 15:33.12 | beandog | [abc] looks for a, b, or c |
| 15:33.15 | beandog | etc. |
| 15:33.30 | beandog | [A-Za-z0-9] is alphanumeric |
| 15:33.32 | influx | Familiar with that. I was wondering if I could have brackets interpreted inside of brackets. |
| 15:33.42 | beandog | why would you? |
| 15:33.45 | influx | Don't remember. |
| 15:33.55 | influx | I was half asleep trying to finish a contact form last night. |
| 15:34.14 | beandog | what kind of data are you looking to validate? |
| 15:34.19 | influx | e-mail. |
| 15:34.30 | influx | I know there's filter_var() I can work with, but I wanted to strip out anything that... |
| 15:34.32 | beandog | Oh |
| 15:34.44 | influx | ...isn't A-Za-z0-9\. from the local name. |
| 15:34.45 | beandog | There's lots of regex validators for email out there |
| 15:35.06 | beandog | well email addresses can have more than that |
| 15:35.07 | influx | err A-Za-z0-9\.\- |
| 15:35.09 | influx | I know. |
| 15:35.10 | beandog | and you wouldn't use \. |
| 15:35.12 | beandog | in brackets |
| 15:35.14 | beandog | you'd use . |
| 15:35.25 | influx | Oh yeah? cool. |
| 15:35.34 | influx | i guess same for - |
| 15:35.35 | beandog | Im pretty sure, at least. |
| 15:35.55 | beandog | actually, I don't remember. |
| 15:37.44 | influx | :] |
| 15:37.56 | influx | It's cool. I figured I'd play it safe while I find out. |
| 15:53.43 | mindjuju | holy crap! Galactus is real! |
| 15:53.45 | mindjuju | http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100524/sc_afp/usscienceastronomy |
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| 16:21.16 | supernovia | msg beandog have you seen this awesomeness? http://cameronmoll.bigcartel.com/product/letterpress-poster-16x24 |
| 16:21.21 | supernovia | do'h. |
| 16:21.47 | beandog | wo ah that is funky |
| 16:21.51 | supernovia | ~undo |
| 16:22.08 | beandog | hundred dollah |
| 16:22.09 | beandog | freep |
| 16:22.10 | supernovia | ya gotta zoom in |
| 16:22.15 | supernovia | I know! I want it but dang. |
| 16:25.51 | herlo | loving the fact that it's Towel Day: http://www.towelday.org/ and get Fedora 13 day: http://ur1.ca/03ajw |
| 16:26.28 | SunSparc | has |
| 16:26.30 | herlo | :) |
| 16:26.31 | herlo | nie |
| 16:26.33 | herlo | nice |
| 16:26.38 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:26.45 | SunSparc | I should display it more prominently |
| 16:26.52 | beandog | http://www.neatorama.com/2010/05/24/robot-portrait-turn-yourself-into-a-robot/ |
| 16:28.24 | SunSparc | Cool |
| 16:32.55 | mindjuju | 4 beandog - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-iIbotFkzQ&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 16:34.27 | mindjuju | not really a fan of cats, but this is funny |
| 16:35.52 | beandog | lol |
| 16:40.28 | supernovia | oh man, I don't have a towel! |
| 16:43.37 | mindjuju | don't panic! |
| 16:43.44 | herlo | okay! |
| 16:43.51 | mindjuju | oh wait, you DON'T have a towel? k, maybe you should panic |
| 16:44.46 | supernovia | for reals! |
| 16:48.45 | supernovia | creepiest cake evar⦠http://cakewrecks.blogspot.com/2010/05/baby-cake-gets-cut-down-to-size.html |
| 16:49.14 | mindjuju | yup, thats fo sho |
| 16:51.53 | SunSparc | Whoa |
| 16:58.21 | mindjuju | one of these days i'm going to need to get a DJ laser light kit for my office. sometimes my music necessitates it. |
| 16:59.13 | mindjuju | the arcade version? |
| 16:59.49 | supernovia | nope the powerglove version: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Tetris/5Xnle |
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| 17:00.11 | mindjuju | i had a powerglove |
| 17:00.30 | mindjuju | nice, it's a remix of the classic tetris from the arcade |
| 17:00.33 | supernovia | I'm thinking of downloading the tetris that works with the balance board |
| 17:00.46 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qqaqwZQnUQ |
| 17:00.51 | mindjuju | that's the original from arcade |
| 17:00.57 | mindjuju | careful, sound i s loud |
| 17:01.33 | supernovia | kalinka maya |
| 17:01.41 | mindjuju | ? |
| 17:01.49 | supernovia | that's the name of the song they're playing there |
| 17:01.57 | mindjuju | ah cool! |
| 17:02.02 | supernovia | well, maybe not the name of it. probably just kalinka |
| 17:02.33 | supernovia | but the chorus (the minor part) goes Kalinka, kalinka, kalinka maya⦠etc. |
| 17:06.17 | mindjuju | that was a fun song supernovia |
| 17:06.25 | supernovia | thanks! I think so ;) |
| 17:06.40 | supernovia | there's a cool mario bros remix on there too somewhere |
| 17:08.31 | mindjuju | oh powerglove is a band, i thought it meant it was the version of the game it came from |
| 17:08.55 | mindjuju | ws going to say, i didn't remember games that were issued for powerglove that weren't for any other games |
| 17:12.42 | supernovia | hehe |
| 17:15.13 | mindjuju | i hate how this is mixed by everybody and their dog, but the music both remixed and original is quite powerful |
| 17:17.37 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: that was crap audio |
| 17:19.45 | mindjuju | it's not that bad |
| 17:20.37 | DexterTheDragon | have some standards man :P |
| 17:20.48 | DexterTheDragon | its awful |
| 17:20.56 | mindjuju | k, find me a less sucky one |
| 17:26.55 | mindjuju | i want a corny dog |
| 17:31.11 | fungus | grr, since when has magic_quotes_gpc been on by default? |
| 17:32.50 | DexterTheDragon | fungus: like the begining of time |
| 17:33.10 | fungus | lol, shows you how long it's been since I had to play with PHP. :) |
| 17:34.47 | fungus | ~php-- |
| 17:34.59 | DexterTheDragon | ~karma php |
| 17:34.59 | ibot | php has karma of -1 |
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| 17:46.22 | mindjuju | DtD, you still around? |
| 17:46.29 | DexterTheDragon | si |
| 17:46.56 | mindjuju | supposedly has all Radio 1 essential Mix, you have to register to download, but you don't have to pay |
| 17:46.57 | mindjuju | http://www.freshclubbing.net |
| 17:47.05 | mindjuju | i'm downloading oaky from 2000 |
| 17:48.28 | DexterTheDragon | sweet |
| 17:49.03 | mindjuju | they've got this thing to make leaching a pinch harder though |
| 17:49.04 | mindjuju | http://www.freshclubbing.net/ipb/index.php?act=announce&f=74&id=6 |
| 17:49.16 | mindjuju | so you can't just rove through downloading everything :( |
| 17:50.38 | DexterTheDragon | unless you get a VIP |
| 17:51.09 | mindjuju | well, essential mix are free, but apparently everything else is for VIP, which i just found out |
| 17:51.19 | mindjuju | lifetime VIP is $10 |
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| 17:54.02 | mindjuju | ~apb jsmith |
| 17:54.03 | ibot | ACTION hires baby Lyssa to rough up jsmith |
| 17:54.10 | jsmith | mindjuju: Wazzup? |
| 17:56.44 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: in other news, this was just released http://amzn.to/bSllKv |
| 18:01.24 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: http://www.xlr8r.com/news/2010/05/listen-new-glitch-mob-album-now |
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| 18:06.27 | beandog | redirection in CI seems a little odd. |
| 18:11.32 | SunSparc | Whoa: http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2010/05/25/d-pad-hero-2-guitar-hero-for-the-nes/ |
| 18:11.43 | beandog | Oh wait ... reading docs ftw. |
| 18:13.04 | beandog | SunSparc, my thumbs hurt just from watching that |
| 18:13.05 | beandog | way cool tho |
| 18:13.11 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:14.06 | beandog | is that an actual game someone programmed? |
| 18:14.54 | beandog | thats just awesome |
| 18:18.11 | supernovia | super fly ;) |
| 18:18.54 | beandog | wow, attack of the spambots on twitter today .. |
| 18:19.07 | supernovia | you probably said too many special keywords |
| 18:19.09 | beandog | maybe I should change my pwd |
| 18:19.43 | beandog | could be. |
| 18:22.21 | supernovia | so .. I -really- want to make some tron t-shirts |
| 18:22.33 | supernovia | with paint that glows blue in the dark |
| 18:22.52 | beandog | like that hoodie? |
| 18:22.56 | supernovia | which hoodie? |
| 18:23.00 | beandog | there was one like that |
| 18:23.03 | supernovia | really? |
| 18:23.07 | beandog | it was the uniform they wore |
| 18:23.13 | beandog | but in the light it jus tlooked like weird stripes |
| 18:23.16 | beandog | but in the dark it all lit up |
| 18:23.19 | beandog | soooo cool |
| 18:23.24 | supernovia | oh you mean in the movie :) |
| 18:23.29 | beandog | No |
| 18:23.32 | beandog | Lemme go find linkie |
| 18:23.35 | supernovia | where'd you see it? :-D |
| 18:23.36 | supernovia | ok |
| 18:23.48 | beandog | http://www.walyou.com/blog/2010/05/01/tron-glow-in-the-dark-hoodie/ |
| 18:23.51 | beandog | well that was easy |
| 18:24.02 | beandog | wait thtas not it |
| 18:24.27 | beandog | http://media.threadless.com/product/640x640/2281-store3.jpg |
| 18:24.30 | beandog | maybe it is. |
| 18:24.40 | beandog | http://www.threadless.com/product/2281/My_Other_Ride_Is_a_Light_Cycle#zoom |
| 18:27.09 | supernovia | that â is â rad |
| 18:27.17 | supernovia | Yeah I was thinking something like that. |
| 18:28.44 | supernovia | the hoody is super cool. And super sold out, alas! |
| 18:29.00 | supernovia | it'd cost me about $45 just in supplies to make one shirt though |
| 18:30.42 | beandog | http://pongnation.com/shop/customer/product.php?productid=180&cat=&page= |
| 18:31.10 | beandog | hey I found mine |
| 18:31.12 | beandog | http://pongnation.com/shop/customer/product.php?productid=220&cat=3&page=1 |
| 18:31.14 | beandog | :D |
| 18:32.49 | beandog | freak theres another one ... I swear that's the 4th or 5th this morning on twitter |
| 18:33.15 | beandog | Hmm |
| 18:33.20 | beandog | I swear these guys got their accts hacked |
| 18:33.27 | beandog | Theres so many that look normal and *then* they suddenly have spam. |
| 18:56.07 | beandog | man |
| 18:56.15 | beandog | I'm ready to go home and resume playing KOTOR2 |
| 18:56.25 | beandog | I started a new game with that restoration content mod |
| 18:56.28 | beandog | whatever it's called. |
| 18:56.54 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjTw8qexs8c |
| 18:56.56 | beandog | I think thats it |
| 18:57.20 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOFzco3Xskc&feature=related |
| 18:57.22 | beandog | nope, thats it |
| 18:57.50 | beandog | Atton looks wicked. |
| 18:59.22 | beandog | A 5-hour day seems reasonable to me |
| 18:59.32 | beandog | Im sure my boss will understand |
| 19:03.32 | supernovia | I'm excited :-D |
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| 19:09.34 | beandog | lol |
| 19:09.40 | beandog | mindjuju, o hai |
| 19:22.13 | macnewbold | oh boy - i hate it when everyone needs everything right now no matter what |
| 19:22.49 | jsmith | macnewbold: What, that doesn't happen to you *every day*? |
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| 19:25.54 | beandog | you need to eat that, right now |
| 19:26.06 | beandog | crap, now I really want cookies ... |
| 19:27.10 | itimber | mmm cookies |
| 19:28.41 | beandog | herlo, http://mairin.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/fedora-13-lightscribe-labels/ |
| 19:28.56 | herlo | beandog: yeah, I know mairin |
| 19:29.06 | herlo | beandog: feel free to use them, she's a great artist |
| 19:29.18 | beandog | eh, Im not really into fedora myself |
| 19:29.32 | herlo | beandog: well, you should try it again |
| 19:29.55 | herlo | it's all about giving the distros a good trial here and there |
| 19:30.15 | herlo | make sure you found what works for you, maybe one distro suits you better now, who knows |
| 19:30.31 | beandog | heh |
| 19:30.42 | beandog | I think it's safe to say I found my distro. :) |
| 19:31.01 | beandog | but I agree, it's good to try out others now and again |
| 19:31.10 | beandog | latest ubuntu stinks |
| 19:31.13 | herlo | beandog: feel free to let me know... |
| 19:31.26 | herlo | what you think, i'll pass it on to the crew over at the fedora project :) |
| 19:32.02 | beandog | I dont really have a box to play with it right now |
| 19:32.08 | itimber | wait wait wait.... what's wrong w/ the new ubuntu? I've heard nothing but glowing praise for it |
| 19:32.25 | beandog | although Im starting to think I might wanna find something for quick LAMP deployments |
| 19:32.33 | beandog | where I dont have to customize much |
| 19:33.23 | beandog | anyway. |
| 19:33.29 | beandog | itimber, I dont like the default theme, mostly |
| 19:33.39 | beandog | seems like there was something else |
| 19:33.41 | herlo | beandog: yeah, livecd creator from fedora is great! |
| 19:33.44 | beandog | I went back to 9.04 on my netbook |
| 19:33.54 | itimber | oh, gotcha |
| 19:34.05 | herlo | easy to setup and configure quickly to build whatever you want into a livecd or full DVD |
| 19:34.18 | herlo | of coruse, there is usb too :) |
| 19:34.20 | beandog | herlo, oh yah? that sounds spanky |
| 19:34.42 | beandog | herlo, now that would be cool... I dont think theres much support for USB installs these days |
| 19:35.59 | herlo | beandog: works out of the box that way |
| 19:36.02 | PoeticIntensity | anyone know if ssh uses DNS by default - even if a straight IP is typed in? |
| 19:36.05 | herlo | beandog: I think Ubuntu has one too |
| 19:36.18 | herlo | and openSUSE as well, but they aren't as advertises/easy |
| 19:36.26 | herlo | s/ises/ised/ |
| 19:36.31 | beandog | herlo, well, ubuntu doesnt have an official one |
| 19:36.33 | PoeticIntensity | I'm getting a weird delay in ssh, and the delay is just long enough for it to be a dns issue. |
| 19:36.39 | beandog | herlo, I just tried it the other week ... it was slightly painful |
| 19:36.42 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, try ssh -v |
| 19:36.44 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: ssh -vvv |
| 19:36.47 | herlo | :) |
| 19:37.15 | beandog | herlo, right now I have a sysrescuecd usb image ... comes with a lot of great tools |
| 19:37.18 | PoeticIntensity | aaaahh... yes. |
| 19:37.19 | PoeticIntensity | thanks. |
| 19:37.21 | beandog | http://spins.fedoraproject.org/ |
| 19:37.23 | beandog | I like that tho ^^ |
| 19:37.36 | mindjuju | herlo, UTOS is tonight or thursday? |
| 19:37.42 | mindjuju | cal says thurs, but i thought tonight? |
| 19:38.30 | herlo | mindjuju: Thursday |
| 19:38.55 | mindjuju | oh good, i'm going to finish setup for VOIP today since i'm on it now |
| 19:39.20 | mindjuju | yeah, and like i say, the utos cal says thursday |
| 19:39.20 | herlo | mindjuju: okay, I'll get my voip configured on my new x201 and talk with ya if you like |
| 19:39.25 | herlo | mindjuju: :) |
| 19:39.29 | mindjuju | but i could have sworen i saw email sayhing tuesday |
| 19:39.35 | mindjuju | glad i'm early on this one thing :) |
| 19:40.30 | herlo | hehe |
| 19:40.51 | herlo | wow, I've had this computer unplugged since 10:00am today |
| 19:40.53 | mindjuju | you know, i just got a laptop, i'm going to dual partition it ubuntu / winders but i'm wondering, since the partition has nearly 300G, if I should put another linux distro there too? |
| 19:41.06 | herlo | still says 29% left -- 1h 25m remaining |
| 19:41.09 | mindjuju | ala fedora |
| 19:41.12 | beandog | mindjuju, if you want. you can always share /home between them |
| 19:41.19 | mindjuju | ooh! i could do ubuntu studio! |
| 19:41.19 | herlo | mindjuju: sure, it just came out today :) |
| 19:42.07 | herlo | mindjuju: get.fedoraproject.org :) |
| 19:42.13 | mindjuju | ubuntu bash and fedora bash are the same or similar? |
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| 19:42.30 | herlo | same |
| 19:42.34 | herlo | bash is bash |
| 19:42.46 | herlo | don't forget to install bash-completion, you'll like bash better if you do... |
| 19:43.08 | beandog | herlo, yah but each distro usually has different stuff in /etc/skel |
| 19:43.16 | beandog | more aliases, bash completion, etc. |
| 19:43.37 | herlo | beandog: fedora's is pretty stripped down, letting you choose how to customize |
| 19:43.53 | beandog | thats a good approach |
| 19:44.20 | TuxToaster | herlo: if I had to guess, I'd say you like fedora :P |
| 19:44.39 | herlo | TuxToaster: nope, love it |
| 19:44.44 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:44.51 | supernovia | my kids love the tatoos... |
| 19:44.55 | beandog | he's weird like that |
| 19:44.57 | herlo | but I generally try them all, plus, Fedora 13 came out today :) |
| 19:45.00 | supernovia | or is it tattoos? whateves |
| 19:45.03 | herlo | supernovia: indeed!! |
| 19:45.09 | TuxToaster | 13? wow. |
| 19:45.12 | TuxToaster | I'm behind. |
| 19:45.13 | TuxToaster | heh |
| 19:45.51 | herlo | nice |
| 19:45.58 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:46.05 | herlo | TONIGHT! |
| 19:47.00 | herlo | that makes no sense grammatically |
| 19:47.36 | utahcon | megh |
| 19:47.37 | utahcon | meh |
| 19:48.23 | herlo | :P |
| 19:49.32 | beandog | scratchy throat == not good |
| 19:50.15 | beandog | no wanna get sick |
| 19:50.33 | herlo | drink orange juice |
| 19:50.39 | beandog | ew. |
| 19:50.49 | beandog | OJ is for hippies |
| 19:51.11 | beandog | crazy liberals with their all-natural cures |
| 19:51.21 | herlo | OJ is a tasty drink, made from oranges |
| 19:51.21 | beandog | :) |
| 19:51.25 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:52.26 | TuxToaster | herlo: but don't you know, oranges are political! :P |
| 19:52.26 | herlo | orly? |
| 19:52.26 | beandog | alright, Im off to shop for some |
| 19:52.26 | TuxToaster | apparently. liberal oranges. heh |
| 19:55.05 | Utah_Dave | Just rooted my G1 and installed Android 2.1! |
| 19:55.12 | Utah_Dave | It's pretty awesome. |
| 19:55.25 | herlo | Utah_Dave: I have that too |
| 19:55.31 | herlo | but I left it at home today |
| 19:55.42 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:55.44 | supernovia | I take the peels off, though |
| 19:55.44 | Utah_Dave | cool |
| 19:56.12 | supernovia | you eat the orange peel? |
| 19:56.15 | TuxToaster | I've been playing with Android on a coworker's Droid |
| 19:56.16 | herlo | Utah_Dave: how you liking it so far? What theme you got? |
| 19:56.23 | herlo | supernovia: yup, it's good for you |
| 19:56.36 | supernovia | so do you just.. bite into it whole? |
| 19:56.45 | herlo | yup |
| 19:56.46 | herlo | sometimes |
| 19:56.53 | supernovia | or do you eat the peels first and then the flesh? |
| 19:56.58 | herlo | or I eat sliced pieces that way |
| 19:57.12 | herlo | no, never peel and eat flesh by itself, too bitter |
| 19:57.28 | supernovia | the flesh is too bitter and the peel isnt? :-/ |
| 19:57.37 | Utah_Dave | herlo: I'm running the cyanogenmod . Just whatever default theme it comes with. |
| 19:57.41 | Utah_Dave | What are you running |
| 19:57.42 | Utah_Dave | ? |
| 19:58.14 | herlo | supernovia: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=37 |
| 19:58.21 | herlo | Utah_Dave: eclair |
| 19:58.21 | utahcon | herlo is running CannonRom 2.0 |
| 19:58.27 | herlo | yeah, that |
| 19:58.45 | herlo | Utah_Dave: I couldn't find a cyanogenmod that would update me to 2.1 |
| 19:58.46 | utahcon | Utah_Dave: which cyanogenmod are your running on the G1 with 2.1/ |
| 19:59.09 | utahcon | herlo: lol 5.0.7 for Dream |
| 19:59.10 | utahcon | lol |
| 19:59.14 | utahcon | just look at the homepage :D |
| 19:59.16 | utahcon | I did :D |
| 19:59.18 | Utah_Dave | he released cm 5.07 today |
| 19:59.27 | utahcon | posted today |
| 19:59.40 | herlo | utahcon: how come his app sux and doesn't update that anymoer then?? |
| 19:59.43 | supernovia | hmm, maybe I'll start taking some of the zest off and putting it in with the orange |
| 19:59.52 | herlo | supernovia: zest is a nice flavor |
| 20:02.16 | utahcon | the 4.2 didn't update to 5.0 because of major changes to the way the phone worked |
| 20:02.28 | herlo | oh |
| 20:02.41 | herlo | would have been nice to have teh update app tell us that |
| 20:02.57 | utahcon | herlo: you done complaining? |
| 20:03.10 | influx | supernovia |
| 20:03.19 | influx | use the zest in cakes |
| 20:03.26 | influx | it tastes sooooooooooooo good |
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| 20:04.37 | herlo | utahcon: nope |
| 20:04.41 | herlo | just for now |
| 20:05.22 | _psychic_ | this is hitting the airwaves today http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/a-new-type-of-phishing-attack/# |
| 20:05.53 | herlo | utahcon: I've been running my lappy on battery power since 10am :) |
| 20:06.01 | herlo | still have 50 minutes left :) |
| 20:07.04 | supernovia | I've never made an orange cake, influx. Sounds good though :) |
| 20:07.40 | utahcon | party at supernovia's cake palace! |
| 20:07.42 | supernovia | had a little potluck thing and two of my brothers didn't come at all |
| 20:07.56 | supernovia | I do have one whole cake left |
| 20:08.38 | supernovia | plus my brother's wife, and my friends b&b and their kiddos |
| 20:08.38 | supernovia | so yeah. oodles of cake. debating what to do |
| 20:08.47 | utahcon | supernovia: you could wear it as a hate |
| 20:08.48 | utahcon | hat |
| 20:08.54 | utahcon | throw it at the neighbros |
| 20:09.07 | utahcon | take out outside, place on lawn, and collect ants |
| 20:09.16 | supernovia | actually I'm pretty sure I'm already wearing a couple of pieces of chocolate cake on my hips :-s |
| 20:09.47 | supernovia | speakin o which. I do think I'm gonna go jump on a treadmill for a while and then go home |
| 20:10.05 | utahcon | supernovia: I almost made an inappropriate comment about cakes, hips, and licking. Thanks! |
| 20:10.12 | supernovia | lol |
| 20:10.13 | supernovia | okay |
| 20:10.23 | supernovia | Well if anyone needs cake, Holla. for real. see ya for now |
| 20:10.25 | utahcon | supernovia: don't you know that walking/running ir more effective on a treadmill? |
| 20:10.47 | supernovia | actually I'm going to use the weights machines too and alternate |
| 20:11.04 | supernovia | this place has a full blown employee gym downstairs with a personal trainer :-D |
| 20:11.30 | supernovia | alright, going now so I'll get a half hour in before I gotta pick up kids. see yas |
| 20:12.34 | macnewbold | and i bet if you wanted a protein shake or something, they've got a killer blender to use to make it |
| 20:12.40 | supernovia | they surely do |
| 20:12.58 | supernovia | my coworker makes protein & coffee crystal shakes :-X |
| 20:13.13 | macnewbold | ew |
| 20:13.18 | supernovia | yeah really |
| 20:13.27 | supernovia | alrightys - see ya guys :-) |
| 20:13.41 | unum | my servers are already to go!!!! |
| 20:13.45 | unum | just got to get them mounted |
| 20:17.15 | beandog | tabnabbing? |
| 20:17.34 | beandog | _psychic_, that is cool |
| 20:17.43 | beandog | and *smart* |
| 20:18.19 | beandog | I saw the coolest Wonder Woman notebooks at Target |
| 20:19.01 | _psychic_ | beandog: yeah, clever, right? |
| 20:19.17 | beandog | _psychic_, I thought it was kinda dumb, til the site did it themselves |
| 20:19.20 | beandog | that convinced me. |
| 20:19.49 | beandog | oh, wow |
| 20:19.52 | beandog | cough drops + oj = ew |
| 20:21.07 | _psychic_ | beandog: what browser are you using? |
| 20:21.14 | beandog | _psychic_, seamonkey and ff |
| 20:21.39 | _psychic_ | chrome didn't let the favicon change |
| 20:23.19 | beandog | https://www.paypal-shopping.com/ |
| 20:23.24 | beandog | wow, thats actually an official site. |
| 20:23.34 | beandog | way to help out there, guys .. make paypal-foo sites of your own |
| 20:26.28 | beandog | *another* spambot! |
| 20:26.46 | beandog | twitter sure is popular. |
| 20:33.00 | influx | meow |
| 20:42.38 | fungus | I'm running chrome unstable 6.x and it changed the favicon |
| 20:50.19 | beandog | Thats why I use IE |
| 20:50.37 | beandog | Because Microsoft is a trusted name in the home and the office. |
| 20:51.40 | fungus | ~shun beandog |
| 20:51.41 | ibot | You are dead to me, beandog. |
| 20:52.34 | beandog | fungus, do you like star wars? |
| 20:52.49 | beandog | specifically, the prequels |
| 20:53.07 | fungus | Yeah, they are pretty good. |
| 20:53.28 | beandog | Im thinking about doing a GMN where we watch all three in a row |
| 20:53.33 | beandog | I'm wondering if theres any interest |
| 20:53.36 | beandog | or at least 2 and 3 |
| 20:53.51 | fungus | can't do 2 unless you do all three |
| 20:54.26 | fungus | it's like running a marathon but quitting 5 feet before the end. |
| 20:55.04 | beandog | yah |
| 20:55.22 | beandog | I have the original theatrical versions of the original trilogy as well |
| 20:55.31 | beandog | those are fun to watch |
| 20:55.55 | beandog | maybe we could get mindjuju to bring the star wars holiday special |
| 20:57.08 | fungus | lol, no thanks |
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| 21:23.22 | beandog | So, if I finish my work early, that means I can go home, right? |
| 21:24.07 | orsonj | Bing! |
| 21:28.48 | jsmith | beandog: You have my permission (for what little it's worth) |
| 21:30.14 | beandog | sweet, thx man |
| 21:30.14 | beandog | :D |
| 21:33.50 | orsonj | hahaha, bing vs google "Can I go home early?" |
| 21:34.20 | orsonj | bing: " * |
| 21:34.37 | orsonj | oops copied too much |
| 21:35.34 | orsonj | bing: "How to Go to Bed Early", "Go home and multiply", "Am I pregnant, how early can I test", "How to make yourself go into labor early" |
| 21:36.00 | orsonj | four of the first five results (in order) |
| 21:37.13 | mindjuju | oh cool, now to see if fedora < ubuntu or ubuntu > fedora |
| 21:37.15 | mindjuju | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions |
| 21:37.37 | mindjuju | ;p |
| 21:37.45 | itimber | it seems odd that more people are saying, "Go home and multiply" then people saying, "Can I go home early?" |
| 21:40.16 | unum | mindjuju: I have to agree with both statements |
| 21:40.29 | unum | fedora < ubuntu and ubuntu > fedora |
| 21:40.30 | mindjuju | yeah, was a trick statement wasn't it |
| 21:40.54 | mindjuju | jsmith told me fedora better, so i'm taking a few minutes to do research |
| 21:41.34 | unum | ok no more cowboy coding |
| 21:41.38 | unum | I mean it this time |
| 21:41.51 | mindjuju | wow, you can install gentoo on every machine? |
| 21:42.00 | unum | ? |
| 21:42.17 | unum | you mean architecture? |
| 21:42.21 | mindjuju | yup |
| 21:42.22 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: yeah, but it only takes 4 days for each install |
| 21:42.34 | mindjuju | that's amazing though |
| 21:42.38 | mindjuju | debian too |
| 21:43.07 | mindjuju | so utah_dave, which do you think is better, fedora or ubuntu? |
| 21:43.45 | Utah_Dave | I think they're both pretty good. I've been using ubuntu more lately though |
| 21:43.56 | Utah_Dave | on desktop and servers |
| 21:48.01 | beandog | Utah_Dave, :B |
| 21:48.05 | beandog | doesnt take me 4 days |
| 21:48.23 | orsonj | well on your hardware, it would take 4 weeks |
| 21:49.12 | mindjuju | carmony 's dad is in wikipedia, how cool is that? |
| 21:49.23 | mindjuju | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linspire |
| 21:49.53 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 21:50.26 | carmony | lol! |
| 21:50.43 | carmony | I think he used to have his own wikipedia entry, but they consilidated it into the Linspire page |
| 22:06.03 | mindjuju | why does gentoo take so long to compile? |
| 22:06.10 | mindjuju | is it building everything from scratch or something? |
| 22:06.16 | beandog | yes |
| 22:07.09 | mindjuju | so, all things being equal, ubuntu would take roughly the same amount of time if it had to do the same thing? |
| 22:07.32 | beandog | eh |
| 22:07.38 | beandog | ubuntu packages things differently |
| 22:07.45 | beandog | w/gentoo everything is one package |
| 22:07.50 | beandog | debian splits packages into separate ones |
| 22:08.14 | mindjuju | how long does it really take to compile everything? |
| 22:08.27 | beandog | mindjuju, its all relative |
| 22:08.38 | beandog | besides, generally speaking, the *big* stuff takes a long time to compile |
| 22:08.43 | beandog | gcc, glibc, kde, etc. |
| 22:08.48 | beandog | but 90% of it is under 5 minutes. |
| 22:09.04 | beandog | well, maybe not 90%, but most of it. |
| 22:09.16 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: It will take you 4 days to set up a gentoo server. And then half of the stuff won't work right. |
| 22:09.17 | beandog | most of the apps are small enough that they don't take much time, individually |
| 22:10.48 | mindjuju | i'm going to have to download it and give it a try |
| 22:10.53 | mindjuju | i have a spare station i can put it on |
| 22:11.19 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: you might want to take some vacation time. You won't be able to do anything else for the week. |
| 22:11.37 | beandog | If its your first install, I would agree. |
| 22:11.43 | beandog | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1 |
| 22:11.52 | mindjuju | :) , its next to my desk, but it isn't my primary desk |
| 22:12.02 | mindjuju | it's a monitor keyboard setup i use to troubleshoot comps |
| 22:12.12 | mindjuju | but currently sitting idle as everything is humming quite nicely |
| 22:12.12 | beandog | Its a fun way to learn how Linux works though, that's for sure. |
| 22:12.27 | herlo | mindjuju: if you are a real masochist, try Linux From Scratch |
| 22:12.39 | beandog | herlo, even I wouldnt do that one. |
| 22:12.51 | beandog | I tried it once ... oh my ugh |
| 22:13.04 | herlo | it's actually a very rewarding learning experience in the sense that it tells you what is what and where. It also covers how the system is constructued from the ground up |
| 22:13.08 | herlo | beandog: I've done it |
| 22:13.17 | herlo | took 2 days and a bit of caffeine, wasn't that bad really |
| 22:13.26 | herlo | the instructions are very clear |
| 22:13.36 | mindjuju | so herlo, jsmith says fedora rocks the planet |
| 22:13.40 | beandog | maybe Im thinking of sourcemage |
| 22:13.41 | herlo | it does |
| 22:13.42 | mindjuju | i'm wondering what makes it better than ubuntu |
| 22:13.42 | beandog | It was a while ... |
| 22:13.49 | herlo | mindjuju: jsmith-away is right |
| 22:13.55 | beandog | mindjuju, what, gentoo? |
| 22:14.09 | beandog | mindjuju, the difference between distros is *mainly* 1) package manager and 2) defaults on install |
| 22:14.20 | herlo | beandog: and belief system |
| 22:14.22 | herlo | beandog: and people |
| 22:14.26 | mindjuju | i wondered, i thought they all use the the same kernel |
| 22:14.31 | beandog | herlo, well, technical diffs. |
| 22:14.43 | herlo | mindjuju: similar kernel, but different implementations of different apps |
| 22:14.44 | beandog | herlo, but you're right |
| 22:14.48 | herlo | :) |
| 22:14.55 | beandog | yah |
| 22:15.01 | beandog | mindjuju, it's basically who its targeted for |
| 22:15.01 | mindjuju | so with fedora, you can use gnome or KDE, same as ubuntu? |
| 22:15.10 | herlo | mindjuju: yes |
| 22:15.24 | mindjuju | k, well let's talk when you have time |
| 22:15.29 | beandog | Gentoo is for people who want extreme flexibility and choice |
| 22:15.33 | mindjuju | i'm goignn to carve out a portion of a hdd to install |
| 22:15.41 | herlo | mindjuju: check http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-options#desktops |
| 22:15.45 | herlo | if that helps |
| 22:15.47 | beandog | As in, I want to set the CXXFLAGS when installing curl and make it as small as possible. |
| 22:15.48 | herlo | there's other optiosn too |
| 22:15.51 | fungus | Gentoo is for people with more time than they knwo what to do with |
| 22:16.04 | Utah_Dave | amen! |
| 22:16.08 | mindjuju | beandog, i'm going to download and see what up |
| 22:16.13 | beandog | mindjuju, good luck |
| 22:16.19 | fungus | lol, you'll need it |
| 22:16.25 | beandog | mindjuju, I recommend downloading the sysrescuecd and booting off that to start with |
| 22:16.34 | mindjuju | in fact, i know what i'm going to do |
| 22:16.43 | mindjuju | i'm going to point my web cam AT the comp installing |
| 22:16.50 | mindjuju | and ya'll can check progress |
| 22:16.55 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:17.07 | beandog | mindjuju, it might be easier to just monitor your blood pressure in realtime |
| 22:18.10 | mindjuju | so, wait, this isn't just a choose the option and let it go kind of thing? |
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| 22:18.21 | beandog | mindjuju, gentoo? |
| 22:18.22 | beandog | no |
| 22:18.25 | beandog | oh heavens, no |
| 22:18.25 | mindjuju | oh |
| 22:18.32 | beandog | You get to put everything together yourself |
| 22:18.35 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: I think I could watch all the extended Lord of the Rings, all the Star Wars movies 4 or 5 times before you'll be done |
| 22:18.40 | beandog | There's no automation |
| 22:18.49 | beandog | aside from emerge <progra> |
| 22:18.51 | beandog | *program |
| 22:19.08 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: I guess it will be fun to watch you pull your hair out, though! |
| 22:19.32 | beandog | mindjuju, I don't think you're really the target demographic for Gentoo |
| 22:19.46 | mindjuju | yeah, prolly not, but i'm curious now |
| 22:19.58 | mindjuju | wow |
| 22:19.59 | mindjuju | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml |
| 22:20.07 | beandog | mindjuju, http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml |
| 22:20.21 | beandog | "Thanks to a technology called Portage, Gentoo can become an ideal secure server, development workstation, professional desktop, gaming system, embedded solution or something else -- whatever you need it to be. Because of its near-unlimited adaptability, we call Gentoo a metadistribution. " |
| 22:20.25 | beandog | \o/ |
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| 22:20.54 | beandog | anyway, good luck |
| 22:21.28 | Utah_Dave | beandog and mindjuju; sorry for giving you guys such a hard time about gentoo. |
| 22:21.50 | mindjuju | well, as i read these instructions, i see what you mean by no automation |
| 22:21.52 | fungus | Gentoo is really just for hobbyists. nothing serious IMHO. Kinda like slackware |
| 22:22.17 | Utah_Dave | It's just whenever I hear someone about to dive into gentoo, I laugh while remember wasting weeks of time trying to get a server online that never really worked right |
| 22:22.51 | Utah_Dave | I don't know it well, so I'm definitely not one to go to for advice on gentoo. |
| 22:22.56 | orsonj | I started on an embeded build of gentoo once |
| 22:22.57 | fungus | I had some servers on Gentoo that worked right. Took me a long time with lots of tweaking, but I got there. |
| 22:23.05 | fungus | But now I don't dare do any updates on it. |
| 22:23.06 | DexterTheDragon | gentoo's easy to install http://www.bash.org/?464385 |
| 22:23.17 | beandog | I love that one :D |
| 22:23.27 | beandog | that's actually right, too |
| 22:23.49 | fungus | lol |
| 22:23.59 | fungus | but when one of those parts breaks your hosed. |
| 22:26.15 | beandog | just call your local beandog |
| 22:26.24 | beandog | gentoo guru extraordinaire :D |
| 22:26.28 | beandog | heh |
| 22:26.32 | herlo | whee! |
| 22:26.32 | beandog | something like that. |
| 22:29.20 | beandog | alright |
| 22:29.21 | beandog | Im outtie |
| 22:29.24 | beandog | KOTOR2 awaits |
| 22:32.37 | herlo | brasto: you do? |
| 22:54.30 | herlo | damn that beandog |
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| 23:18.18 | unum | anyone still left? |
| 23:20.56 | herlo | like whom? |
| 23:21.16 | unum | like someone who could tell me about sanitizing input |
| 23:21.29 | herlo | not I |
| 23:21.30 | herlo | sorry |
| 23:21.36 | unum | pg_escape_string is not effective |
| 23:27.12 | _psychic_ | olds: you watching the game? |
