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| 14:38.02 | macnewbold | ~monday |
| 14:38.02 | ibot | somebody said monday was when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix, or and on a more positive note, Monday is a brand new day at the beginning of a brand new week, a place to start over and improve on last week. :), or the end of the weekend, a.k.a. the weekendend |
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| 15:38.50 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Some robot techno for you http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2010/05/24/eclectic-method-robots/ |
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| 16:23.11 | itimber | morning guys |
| 16:23.28 | macnewbold | morning! |
| 16:23.45 | macnewbold | welcome back to winter everyone... nothing like waking up in the last week of May with 6" of snow on your car... |
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| 16:29.36 | Utah_Dave | amen. |
| 16:30.18 | Utah_Dave | Hey, wasn't the company from that last job posting in the paper because they were being accused of screwing over their customers? |
| 16:30.36 | bbertola | HIT web design? |
| 16:30.43 | Utah_Dave | yeah |
| 16:30.55 | bbertola | yeah, they had like 600 BBB complaints in the past year |
| 16:30.57 | ninnypants | I wouldn't be supprized |
| 16:31.11 | bbertola | I read about that over the weekend i think |
| 16:31.49 | bbertola | their contract doesn't even guarantee that you will get a website, I had to laugh about that |
| 16:31.59 | ninnypants | where they the ones that were on the news for screwing customers too? I didn't get to watch the report |
| 16:32.04 | Utah_Dave | yeah, that was funny. |
| 16:32.40 | bbertola | I think that might have been them too, I didn't watch the news broadcast though. the CEO acted kind of like a douche |
| 16:33.12 | ninnypants | I almost worked there |
| 16:33.28 | bbertola | be glad you don't.. lol. |
| 16:33.39 | ninnypants | but the final interview before signing on convinced me I didn't want to |
| 16:34.25 | ninnypants | yeah had two friends who worked there before I did |
| 16:34.47 | ninnypants | HIT tried to sue both of them for contining to work in the web industry |
| 16:35.10 | bbertola | thats retarded |
| 16:35.41 | fungus | not retarded if it was part of their employment contract |
| 16:36.03 | fungus | a lot of companies put in a non-compete clause in the employment contract |
| 16:36.21 | bbertola | you're right, the customer contract was pretty restrictive, so a non-compete with them would have pretty much forced anyone into retirement |
| 16:36.49 | ninnypants | yeah but a non compete in that nature isn't legal |
| 16:37.10 | fungus | Why not? I don't know the specifics. |
| 16:38.51 | ninnypants | As far as I know your no compete only affects the customers you have at the time and only for a certain period of time. They usually protect the company from having it's employees use them to find contacts for freelance work, and to keep them from walking off with their customers when they leave |
| 16:39.24 | macnewbold | they have a video of it on ksl.com - it was good watching |
| 16:39.24 | bbertola | yes, and it has to be legally justified as a direct competitor to the employer |
| 16:39.55 | ninnypants | There are contracts that can keep employees from revealing company secrets like recipies or blueprints |
| 16:40.20 | fungus | ninnypants: no, there are also non-compete clauses that state you can't work for any competitor for a period of time. |
| 16:40.26 | bbertola | yes, non-disclosures, but it only applies to proprietary |
| 16:40.52 | macnewbold | the non-compete clause is hard to enforce in Utah being a "right to work" state - it can restrict to a degree specific things, like working with former customers of your former employer, but it can't be so broad that it would prevent you from working in your field |
| 16:41.22 | fungus | macnewbold: yes it can. |
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| 16:41.44 | fungus | don't you remember that weather guy on the news that had to retire for 2 years before moving channels |
| 16:42.07 | fungus | It's uncommon, but totally legal |
| 16:43.25 | ninnypants | document to prevent unreal expectations |
| 16:43.28 | ninnypants | nice |
| 16:43.47 | bbertola | anyone have a link to that video? |
| 16:43.56 | ninnypants | http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=10850739 |
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| 16:45.10 | beandog | macnewbold, pingeh |
| 16:49.12 | bbertola | "its only grandmas that purchase doilies, and they don't use the internet" |
| 16:51.23 | ninnypants | well shoot I wonder who's writing me those emails with my grandma's name on them |
| 16:52.44 | bbertola | "HIT may contract with Contract Service Providers to complete a portion, or all of the Clientâs custom website." - sounds like an elance job to me |
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| 16:55.11 | ninnypants | they try to get freelances on craigslist constantly |
| 17:04.39 | macnewbold | beandog: pongeh |
| 17:05.33 | macnewbold | fungus: what our lawyers have told us is that you can put that in there if you want, but it is hard to enforce in Utah because legal precedent leads most judges to find that an unreasonably broad non-compete is illegal |
| 17:06.29 | macnewbold | in the case of the weatherman, it probably didnt' restrict him from being a meteorologist but perhaps _did_ restrict him from appearing on TV for a competitor in the state of utah for 2 years |
| 17:06.38 | macnewbold | that could have been found reasonable |
| 17:06.40 | fungus | exactly |
| 17:06.49 | fungus | that's exactly what I was referring to |
| 17:06.54 | macnewbold | ah, okay |
| 17:07.02 | fungus | I have seen some of those. You can't work for a competitor |
| 17:07.16 | fungus | doing the same job kind of thing |
| 17:07.26 | macnewbold | enforcing such a contract can be costly, and often not worth it for the employer |
| 17:07.36 | macnewbold | but sometimes it can scare the employee enough that they'll just live with it |
| 17:07.42 | bbertola | yes, but if you are selling doilies at one company, I think selling table cloths for another company would be fine. |
| 17:07.42 | macnewbold | rather than potentially be sued for damages |
| 17:07.57 | fungus | agreed |
| 17:08.09 | macnewbold | bbertola: depends on the contract - if the table cloth vendor is a competitor it might be covered by your non compete. |
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| 17:08.21 | macnewbold | iirc the utah law is kind of vague and outlaws "unreasonable" stuff |
| 17:08.35 | macnewbold | i'd have to look it up to know for sure, but I know it's availble online |
| 17:09.05 | bbertola | yes, but if both were specialty stores selling those products exclusively, then neither one would be in direct competition, and your employment with the new company wouldn't be hurting your old employer |
| 17:09.56 | bbertola | like going from watches to sunglasses, both are considered personal accessories, but there is a big enough difference that its not enforceable |
| 17:11.14 | fungus | Right, but doing web dev for HIT can be restricted from doing web dev for Code Greene |
| 17:13.43 | bbertola | I had an old employer try to scare me away from a job because of a non-compete and it was pretty ridiculous |
| 17:15.16 | bbertola | does anyone here do work for xpose photographhy |
| 17:15.18 | bbertola | ? |
| 17:15.57 | fungus | lol, sounds like a porn maker |
| 17:16.32 | macnewbold | yeah, kinda does fungus |
| 17:18.59 | bbertola | well theyre local and also have a crappy contract |
| 17:19.58 | bbertola | if you contact anyone besides the BBB regarding a complaint, they can charge you $180/hr for however long it takes to resolve the "slandering or damaging remarks" and $180/hr for unprofessional communications |
| 17:20.51 | beandog | BBB is worthless. |
| 17:21.10 | beandog | I wonder how many people actually submit *positive* stories to them. |
| 17:23.45 | _psychic_ | beandog: you're supposed to submit those to the Worse Business Bureau |
| 17:25.28 | bbertola | I wanted to start the better consumer bureau, but the domain name was already taken |
| 17:45.57 | macnewbold | the BBB is kind of a crock from the perspective of a business - they wanted us to pay to become a "member" but afaik there aren't really restrictions on members having relatively few complaints |
| 17:46.11 | macnewbold | i think it's the typical for every 1 who complains there are 10-100 who should have |
| 17:46.31 | macnewbold | the BBB is good for news stories like that, for spotting trends |
| 17:46.34 | bbertola | yep, if you are a paid member, it might actually increase your complaints |
| 17:47.07 | bbertola | you put a badge on your site saying your a paid member, then when someones website isn't up in 4 months they rat you out. |
| 17:47.14 | bbertola | jerks.... |
| 17:49.51 | macnewbold | in theory, being a member says you're committed to conducting your business well |
| 17:49.58 | macnewbold | and resolving the complaints if they come up |
| 18:19.21 | Utah_Dave | josephscott: Hey, didn't you mention that Automattic is using SSD's on their servers? |
| 18:19.41 | josephscott | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.34 | Utah_Dave | We're thinking of doing the same. Have you guys had to make any special changes to deal with them? How has their reliability been? |
| 18:21.18 | josephscott | as I recall, we went with the Intel SSDs, found them to provide best performance/reliability, etc. |
| 18:23.22 | Utah_Dave | I heard a while back that there is a hard limit to the number of writes you can do. Do you know if that is still the case? |
| 18:24.33 | itimber | I've heard the same, Utah_Dave, but I had heard the number was very high |
| 18:26.04 | Utah_Dave | ok |
| 18:35.30 | josephscott | there's a limit for the number of writes for any storage medium |
| 18:35.54 | josephscott | SSD is generally lower than HD, but likely still high enough for many/most folks |
| 18:36.03 | josephscott | it's worth looking at though |
| 18:36.22 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, I'm thinking it's not going to be that big of a deal for us |
| 18:43.39 | beandog | Ill take your old hdd's :D |
| 18:54.32 | supernovia | I'm gonna go eat me some enchiladas. |
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| 18:56.35 | macnewbold | that'd be kind of a funny/sad error to get back: Disk Write Failed: Exceeded maximum writes :( |
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| 18:58.57 | stonestone | Hey everyone. I'm playing with wordpress and writing a simple plugin. however i'm calling wp_enqueue_scripts in the admin_head and it doesn't seem to be working at all. Anyone have an experience with this? |
| 19:04.23 | fungus | macnewbold: that would be funny, but more sad would be that no error was generated. Silently dropping data. |
| 19:06.13 | stonestone | RE: my above question. admin_head is too late to call enqueue_script.. it seems to be working if I call it in admin_init |
| 19:06.35 | stonestone | asp.net convert. you'll be seeing a lot more of me. have a great day. |
| 19:07.04 | beandog | drive-by support |
| 19:10.43 | josephscott | fungus: hardware usually (though not always) doesn't silently drop data, but MySQL does :-) |
| 19:11.00 | fungus | hehe. oops |
| 19:16.38 | supernovia | darn, microwave made my poor enchilada even soggier :-[ |
| 19:17.45 | supernovia | how's everyone today? |
| 19:18.10 | beandog | ~monday |
| 19:18.11 | ibot | somebody said monday was when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix, or and on a more positive note, Monday is a brand new day at the beginning of a brand new week, a place to start over and improve on last week. :), or the end of the weekend, a.k.a. the weekendend |
| 19:18.51 | beandog | supernovia, did you have a lot of food left over |
| 19:19.07 | supernovia | yeah, tons |
| 19:19.16 | supernovia | I totally have weekend withdrawl too |
| 19:20.14 | supernovia | but yeah probably six to eight adults I was expecting did not show up, and I think I ended up with 15 extra enchiladas |
| 19:20.24 | beandog | supernovia, oh yah? |
| 19:20.25 | beandog | I'll take em |
| 19:20.26 | beandog | :D |
| 19:20.27 | supernovia | Yup |
| 19:20.28 | supernovia | :-D |
| 19:21.23 | supernovia | I have lots of bags of chips, too. So someone can invite me over for their memorial day shindig and I'll be all set! |
| 19:21.28 | itimber | when is this week's geek lunch? |
| 19:21.35 | supernovia | Oh is that this week? |
| 19:21.43 | itimber | oops: this month's |
| 19:21.48 | itimber | rather: June's |
| 19:21.50 | itimber | haha |
| 19:21.54 | supernovia | lol |
| 19:22.04 | supernovia | gah. this SO doesn't feel like almost-june |
| 19:22.19 | beandog | I hear we're gonna have great weather in December |
| 19:22.19 | supernovia | I had to shovel my stairwell this morning :-S |
| 19:22.31 | supernovia | Ooh lah |
| 19:22.55 | supernovia | I've had that postal service song in my noggin all day .. |
| 19:24.23 | supernovia | http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Sleeping+In/x1sX3 |
| 19:24.42 | beandog | ~lart partial feeds |
| 19:24.42 | ibot | urinates on partial feeds |
| 19:24.46 | beandog | eww |
| 19:30.13 | supernovia | "now we can swim any day in november..." |
| 19:43.25 | mindjuju | these low prices on 1T+ hdd are nuts |
| 19:43.40 | mindjuju | 1Tb drive, = fiddy bucks |
| 19:43.44 | beandog | whut? |
| 19:43.44 | beandog | where |
| 19:43.48 | beandog | gimme |
| 19:43.53 | mindjuju | http://www.tigerdirect.com/email/WEM2289.asp?SRCCODE=WEM2289C&cm_mmc=Email-_-Main-_-WEM2289-_-tigeremail |
| 19:44.06 | mindjuju | but i've seen a 1.5Tb for 80 at outpost.com i think |
| 19:44.18 | beandog | rebate |
| 19:44.18 | beandog | pfft. |
| 19:44.20 | mindjuju | and 2Tb was like 120 |
| 19:44.26 | beandog | seagates run too hot |
| 19:44.34 | beandog | thats good tho, prices are droppin |
| 19:45.45 | beandog | http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-Details.asp?EdpNo=3516746&sku=T925-1219 |
| 19:45.49 | beandog | I wonder if those would be noisy |
| 19:46.10 | mindjuju | looks cool |
| 19:46.27 | mindjuju | i actually run my home servers in the furnace room, which is actually quite cool |
| 19:46.30 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:47.30 | beandog | mindjuju, got room for one more? |
| 19:47.31 | beandog | :D |
| 19:47.41 | mindjuju | and a poorly organized patch panel |
| 19:47.45 | mindjuju | ran out of funds |
| 19:48.32 | fungus | wow, I only have 1 server left at home. |
| 19:48.44 | mindjuju | that's cause you're fungus |
| 19:48.52 | mindjuju | and it's prolly hosting like 10 VMs |
| 19:49.05 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:49.15 | fungus | hehe, nope. Just FreeBSD with a ton of services. |
| 19:49.31 | fungus | you'd be sorely disappointed. |
| 19:49.50 | mindjuju | what kind of box is it? |
| 19:49.59 | fungus | Old desktop with 4 drives and 4 Nics |
| 19:51.04 | beandog | 4 nics? |
| 19:51.04 | beandog | why? |
| 19:51.04 | fungus | WAN, LAN, DMZ, and a spare. |
| 19:51.09 | mindjuju | 4 nics, that's prolly all the free PCI slots, no? |
| 19:51.13 | fungus | I usually have an open wifi on the DMZ |
| 19:51.22 | fungus | yes, it's full |
| 19:51.30 | mindjuju | you let public use your wifi? |
| 19:51.39 | beandog | fungus, oh, thats a good idea ... |
| 19:51.50 | fungus | yeah. but it's completely isolated from my private network |
| 19:52.39 | mindjuju | fungus = nice guy |
| 19:52.51 | fungus | and it's bandwidth limited. |
| 19:53.27 | fungus | but now that I switched to cable and have gobs of bandwidth, I bumped it up to 2Mbps max |
| 19:53.41 | beandog | fungus, what did you have before? |
| 19:53.41 | beandog | dsl? |
| 19:53.47 | fungus | yeah |
| 19:53.54 | fungus | used to be 3Mbps |
| 19:54.01 | beandog | DSL = t3h evil |
| 19:54.09 | fungus | so I only allowed a max of 256K on my open wifi |
| 19:54.18 | fungus | No way. DSL is not evil |
| 19:54.23 | fungus | less evil than Comcast |
| 19:54.26 | fungus | just slower. |
| 19:54.39 | beandog | fungus, get digis |
| 19:54.41 | fungus | I loved my DSL, just not fast enough for me |
| 19:54.49 | mindjuju | so fungus, with your 4 nics setup, are you using pfsense? |
| 19:55.02 | fungus | Nah, custom PF rules. |
| 19:55.16 | fungus | standard FreeBSD box |
| 19:55.49 | beandog | mindjuju, this pfsense looks nice |
| 19:55.55 | fungus | it is really cool. |
| 19:56.01 | mindjuju | pfsense IS AWESOME |
| 19:56.09 | fungus | If I had more servers I would probably use pfsense. |
| 19:56.13 | beandog | Ive always thought firewalls could use better guis |
| 19:56.26 | fungus | But since I only run one, it's gotta do everything I want it to. |
| 19:57.26 | fungus | I moved one of my servers to Linode about a year ago. |
| 19:58.13 | fungus | my estimated power costs on the server at home was $15/mo. Almost as much as a Linode. |
| 19:58.24 | beandog | I think it so funny how there's so many Linux / OSS projects that have great homepages |
| 19:58.36 | beandog | but then when it comes to download, they dump you in an apache directory listing. |
| 19:58.48 | beandog | or just an FTP server |
| 19:59.50 | Utah_Dave | I've got a pfsense box running here at work. |
| 20:00.36 | josephscott | I didn't realize we had all these freebsd users here :-) |
| 20:00.54 | beandog | http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2010/05/scene_from_an_a.html |
| 20:00.55 | beandog | lol |
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| 20:02.14 | mindjuju | wow - http://blogs.computerworld.com/16176/want_to_buy_a_linux_company |
| 20:03.11 | beandog | 2 dollah |
| 20:04.21 | beandog | I miss Mandrake. |
| 20:04.24 | beandog | :'C |
| 20:05.15 | DexterTheDragon | ~mandrake++ |
| 20:05.39 | beandog | Mandrake was cool back when Linux wasn't cool |
| 20:05.41 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 20:05.50 | TuxToaster | you could even buy it at Walmart. |
| 20:05.58 | beandog | and CC |
| 20:07.25 | mindjuju | i enstalled mandriva once |
| 20:07.31 | mindjuju | but didn't get v far |
| 20:08.07 | TuxToaster | I used it for quite a while.. rocked it out with KDE and the old Drawing Board theme that was ported from betas of Mac OS 8 |
| 20:08.13 | TuxToaster | I *loved* that theme |
| 20:16.26 | mindjuju | man, i made the bad mistake of getting my glasses from standard optical, though the optomitrist was quite nice |
| 20:16.34 | mindjuju | (despite doing that puffy test) |
| 20:17.05 | mindjuju | S.O. seems to think 14 business days for a pair of glasses is ok |
| 20:18.33 | fungus | 14 business day? yikes. like 3 weeks? |
| 20:18.43 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 20:19.00 | mindjuju | i just called on it, and she was like "yeah, it's only been 6 business days..." |
| 20:19.12 | mindjuju | They should be in this week, but officially it can be up to 14 |
| 20:19.34 | mindjuju | i'm just used to eye masters where I walk in blind and out with a pair of glasses |
| 20:19.46 | mindjuju | i'm not really blind though |
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| 20:20.16 | mindjuju | leftEye = 20/20; rightEye = 20/40 |
| 20:20.23 | macnewbold | wow, nice |
| 20:20.31 | macnewbold | that's about my vision _after_ I put on my glasses |
| 20:20.39 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:20.59 | mindjuju | and, like i say, the optomitistrit was real nice and explained several things |
| 20:21.53 | mindjuju | he said that my avoidance of sunlight has to do with my stigmatism in my right eye |
| 20:22.10 | mindjuju | that it's a common complaint amonst people with eyes like mine |
| 20:22.12 | mindjuju | who knew?? |
| 20:25.04 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: so that's why you work in a batcave? |
| 20:25.06 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 20:25.18 | mindjuju | i have 2 batcaves |
| 20:25.27 | mindjuju | well, actually, 5 |
| 20:25.39 | mindjuju | my office with windows blocked out |
| 20:26.01 | mindjuju | mj Annex mini broadcast studio, windows blocked out, but that's more for proper lighting |
| 20:26.23 | mindjuju | photog room again, windows blotted out for prop lighting, green room that doesn't have outside windows |
| 20:26.38 | mindjuju | then MJ office at the MJ abode, windows blocked |
| 20:26.57 | beandog | I hate those puffy tests |
| 20:27.04 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:27.10 | mindjuju | you and me both, bro |
| 20:27.24 | mindjuju | they are nearly as bad as the optomitirist putting drops in my eyes |
| 20:27.24 | beandog | its not the test as much as it is the anticipation |
| 20:27.45 | mindjuju | i practically fell back in my seat, i knew it was coming, i just hate it so |
| 20:27.53 | beandog | "Alright now we're going to blow an 80 mph wind right into your eyeball ... any second now .. hold on ... don't jerk your head .." |
| 20:28.10 | mindjuju | that's it exactly |
| 20:28.13 | beandog | mindjuju, Im sure those totally make someone's day |
| 20:28.36 | mindjuju | i found out what the puffy test is for |
| 20:28.44 | mindjuju | it measure the pressure inside your eyeball |
| 20:43.31 | Utah_Dave | ~eyeballpressure mindjuju |
| 20:43.46 | beandog | thats gross |
| 20:44.57 | Utah_Dave | hey, mindjuju, did they do the puffy test in your one good eye? |
| 20:49.41 | mindjuju | they did both eyes |
| 20:52.08 | Utah_Dave | Man, I'm lame at making jokes. |
| 20:52.32 | mindjuju | lol |
| 21:01.42 | _psychic_ | We were on the news today. :) http://bit.ly/aZaLqC |
| 21:02.45 | mindjuju | that's awesome _psychic_ |
| 21:02.53 | _psychic_ | it's pretty awkward |
| 21:03.03 | mindjuju | awkward? |
| 21:03.19 | _psychic_ | over hyper host ladies |
| 21:03.24 | _psychic_ | trying to sing |
| 21:03.29 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:03.32 | _psychic_ | but it's fun to have it covered :) |
| 21:10.02 | supernovia | ping Utah_Dave :) |
| 21:10.58 | supernovia | and I am always singing⦠;) |
| 21:11.36 | mindjuju | what is it you're singing |
| 21:13.01 | supernovia | depends on the day, a second ago I was singing some regina spektor ... |
| 21:14.38 | mindjuju | hmm, not techno |
| 21:15.58 | mindjuju | well, the first four songs on this sound nice |
| 21:15.59 | mindjuju | http://www.google.com/search?q=regina+spektor&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a |
| 21:22.01 | fungus | Since when did concert tickets go on sale 10 months before the event? |
| 21:22.17 | mgeary | hey hey. is REO speedwagon coming back to town?? |
| 21:22.25 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:22.28 | mgeary | ~give mindjuju REO Speedwagon tickets |
| 21:22.29 | ibot | ACTION gives REO Speedwagon tickets to mindjuju |
| 21:22.40 | mindjuju | i'd prefer styx |
| 21:22.53 | mindjuju | this is funny http://current.com/shows/infomania/92445342_miley-cyrus-please-stop.htm |
| 21:26.38 | supernovia | bah, nsfw :-p |
| 21:27.37 | mindjuju | oh sorry! i thought the bad words were all bleeped out? |
| 21:28.16 | supernovia | hehe, it's good - I had it quiet. will check it later :-p |
| 22:35.29 | *** part/#uphpu Utah_Dave (~boucha@72-166-51-162.dia.static.qwest.net) |
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| 23:07.06 | Jacob_Kerr | Check this out gas made from water: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V6SJWfJBl8&feature=related |
| 23:16.59 | mgeary | hey fungus |
| 23:17.15 | mgeary | how do i set up sudoers so users in a certain group can restart apache? |
| 23:18.21 | mgeary | %groupname ALL=/path/to/apchectl ? |
| 23:23.42 | fungus | mgeary: yeah, that should work |
| 23:23.43 | *** join/#uphpu cedwards (~christer@unaffiliated/zelut) |
| 23:23.52 | mgeary | so i need to reload it somehow? |
| 23:23.56 | mgeary | it doesn't seem to be working |
| 23:23.58 | fungus | There are ways of setting up Aliases (variables) |
| 23:24.06 | fungus | no reload needed. |
| 23:25.17 | mgeary | also just tried this: |
| 23:25.19 | mgeary | webdev ALL=/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl restart |
| 23:25.23 | mgeary | webdev is the user |
| 23:25.26 | mgeary | also no workie |
| 23:25.33 | mgeary | oh |
| 23:25.34 | mgeary | wait |
| 23:26.04 | mgeary | heh |
| 23:26.07 | mgeary | wrong path to command |
| 23:26.10 | mgeary | that works now |