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| 02:35.21 | cedwards | anyone have much experience with rewrite/redirect in lighttpd? |
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| 04:41.18 | herlo | yes |
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| 14:42.42 | TuxToaster | morning |
| 14:44.08 | supernovia | hola TuxToaster |
| 14:44.20 | TuxToaster | hola :-) |
| 14:53.34 | supernovia | We're watching the stackable presentation here @ work |
| 14:59.19 | TuxToaster | nice. |
| 14:59.46 | TuxToaster | don't tell me they want to replace their existing physical servers with stacks so they can blend them. |
| 15:01.11 | supernovia | hehhe |
| 15:01.36 | supernovia | Well, I am thinking it'd be handy for the development we're doing |
| 15:02.00 | supernovia | and for the spikes we get |
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| 15:40.08 | mindjuju | fungus, you around? |
| 15:40.23 | fungus | physically |
| 15:40.35 | mindjuju | :) |
| 15:41.03 | mindjuju | so, quick question. I want something like a netbook / smartphone |
| 15:41.08 | mindjuju | but i don't want to pay a data plan |
| 15:41.16 | mindjuju | it kills me to think i might pay $30 |
| 15:41.32 | mindjuju | so i only want it to do its thing when wifi is around |
| 15:41.46 | mindjuju | otherwise, i got my really real, really cheap cell phone for cell calls |
| 15:42.01 | mindjuju | do you know anything that fits in that criteria? |
| 15:42.09 | fungus | a netbook |
| 15:42.23 | mindjuju | how long does it take a netbook to start up |
| 15:42.43 | fungus | if you get one with an SSD drive, they aren't too bad. |
| 15:42.45 | mindjuju | like that laptop i have (and love so much) that weighs a ton, it takes like 3 minutes |
| 15:42.49 | mindjuju | maybe longer |
| 15:42.53 | fungus | lol |
| 15:42.58 | jsmith | mindjuju: Get yourself a non-iPhone smart phone |
| 15:43.09 | mindjuju | so that's the iTouch, right? |
| 15:43.14 | jsmith | mindjuju: (something Android powered, or a Nokia E72) |
| 15:43.15 | fungus | jsmith, most smartphones require data plans |
| 15:43.24 | mindjuju | yeah, no data plans |
| 15:43.26 | jsmith | fungus: The iPhone is the only one I know of that *requires* one |
| 15:43.41 | fungus | Motorola Droid, HTC Droid Eris, etc. |
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| 15:43.57 | mindjuju | i would LOVE a droid, but hate data plan |
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| 15:44.03 | jsmith | Of course, if you want the telco to subsidize your phone, you may be out of luck |
| 15:44.05 | fungus | All Verizon android phones require data plans |
| 15:44.07 | mindjuju | i hear great things about the HTC incredible |
| 15:44.21 | fungus | Yes, the incredible is the best android phone so far. |
| 15:44.29 | mindjuju | k, so what does unlock mean |
| 15:44.40 | fungus | it means, really expensive up front. |
| 15:44.43 | jsmith | mindjuju: It means it's not locked to one particular carrier (like AT&T or T-Mobile) |
| 15:44.48 | fungus | but your free to move to other carriers |
| 15:44.58 | jsmith | In my case, I bought my Nokia E71 from NewEgg |
| 15:45.08 | jsmith | Paid full price for it up front, but I can jump to another carrier at will |
| 15:45.26 | mindjuju | so is that part of this thing called a sim or sim card? |
| 15:45.34 | jsmith | Correct |
| 15:45.47 | jsmith | I got a SIM card from my cell phone company, and drop it in my phone |
| 15:45.53 | fungus | But just a warning, even if you get an unlocked phone, Verizon requires a dataplan on all data capable phones |
| 15:45.55 | jsmith | (assuming it's a carrier that supports the GSM network) |
| 15:46.07 | jsmith | Verizon, for instance, doesn't use GSM, so there's no SIM card |
| 15:46.07 | mindjuju | rats! i was just going to ask that fungus |
| 15:46.19 | jsmith | So your choice of phones is more limited with Verizon |
| 15:46.27 | mindjuju | so that's why i've never seen a sim |
| 15:46.27 | fungus | Not sure about Tmobile, and I don't think ATT does though |
| 15:46.39 | jsmith | T-mobile and AT&T both use SIM cards |
| 15:46.52 | jsmith | (They both use GSM, but use different frequency bands for the 3G stuff -- ugh!) |
| 15:47.06 | jsmith | So, to sum it up nicely, it's a minefield |
| 15:47.11 | jsmith | Be careful where you step |
| 15:47.19 | jsmith | Don't buy a phone before knowing which carrier you're going to use |
| 15:47.48 | mindjuju | see, here's my problem. i'm paying $10 for cell phone, don't have a land line |
| 15:47.55 | mindjuju | well, and $10 for Tiffany too |
| 15:48.02 | mindjuju | i'm CHEAP! |
| 15:48.04 | fungus | you got a cell for only $10? |
| 15:48.06 | fungus | wow. |
| 15:48.11 | fungus | how did you pull that off? |
| 15:48.16 | mindjuju | yeah, we're on my father in law family plan |
| 15:48.22 | fungus | ahh, got it |
| 15:48.39 | mindjuju | course, i looked at my minutes for last month, it was like 17 |
| 15:48.53 | mindjuju | i've taught everybody to contact me via email or IM |
| 15:49.11 | mindjuju | wow, HTC incredible is $600 |
| 15:49.17 | mindjuju | that is incredible |
| 15:49.22 | mindjuju | http://negrielectronics.com/htc-incredible-adr6300-android-mobile-phone-verizon.html |
| 15:49.27 | fungus | lol, most smartphones cost about that. |
| 15:49.40 | fungus | You just see the contract subsidized prices advertised usually |
| 15:51.29 | influx | Is there anyone around here downtown that might be able to help me move a drafting table (presumably unassembled and in a box) from the Reuel's on West Temple and about fourth south to the Avenues? |
| 15:51.38 | influx | ...on Saturday. |
| 15:55.02 | fungus | mindjuju, essentially your decision comes down to trying to find a provider that can support a smartphone w/o a data plan. Or get a netbook. |
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| 16:00.22 | influx | ...yes. |
| 16:00.30 | influx | :3 |
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| 16:14.36 | mindjuju | wonder if this is any good |
| 16:14.36 | mindjuju | http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/dell-streak-to-bump-up-to-android-2-1-in-september-hopefully-sh/ |
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| 16:18.32 | beandog | buenos |
| 16:19.04 | beandog | ~friday |
| 16:19.04 | ibot | ! ! ! F R I D A Y ! ! ! |
| 16:19.06 | utosbot | ibot: Error: "!" is not a valid command. |
| 16:19.06 | ibot | i already had it that way, utosbot |
| 16:19.12 | beandog | ~fail bot |
| 16:19.35 | beandog | wait, it is friday, right? |
| 16:19.39 | herlo | lol |
| 16:19.42 | influx | ~notmonday |
| 16:19.43 | beandog | stupid drugs. |
| 16:21.36 | beandog | SunSparc, how did you see iron man already? |
| 16:21.54 | TuxToaster | heh, yay. Just got a response from a customer (we had sent them an email earlier in the week telling them that they need to stop approaching our software with the attitude of "what's wrong with it") |
| 16:22.30 | TuxToaster | and they just parroted what we said mostly about moving forward and progress, and then told us that we need to understand that some of their suggestions are improvements that would be beneficial for all customers. |
| 16:22.46 | beandog | macnewbold, ping |
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| 16:42.12 | supernovia | hehe |
| 16:42.50 | mindjuju | sunsparc saw ironman already? |
| 16:42.57 | supernovia | yeah he did |
| 16:43.03 | supernovia | said it was as good as the first |
| 16:43.22 | mindjuju | i liked the first, but beandog didn't |
| 16:43.28 | beandog | nopies |
| 16:43.41 | SunSparc | Yes |
| 16:44.13 | SunSparc | beandog, mindjuju ^ |
| 16:45.25 | beandog | how? |
| 16:45.36 | beandog | ~pirate SunSparc |
| 16:45.50 | supernovia | so I just met Tom Dickson and talked him into doing a blend at UPHPU .. hee hee |
| 16:45.52 | beandog | ibot no workie today :( |
| 16:46.08 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: it opened last night |
| 16:46.15 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, oh, midnight showing? |
| 16:46.17 | SunSparc | lol, beandog, it opens today and I went to the midnight viewing. |
| 16:46.20 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 16:46.28 | beandog | Hmm |
| 16:46.39 | supernovia | at midnight right? |
| 16:46.49 | DexterTheDragon | supernovia: I don't want to be blended |
| 16:47.08 | beandog | twilight? |
| 16:47.11 | beandog | hasn't that been out a while? |
| 16:47.15 | supernovia | Not the third one |
| 16:47.49 | supernovia | it's coming out in june and they're already scheming for midnight tickets |
| 16:48.00 | beandog | http://www.slashfilm.com/2009/11/23/lol-twilight-intervention/ |
| 16:48.17 | supernovia | SunSparc was the before party pretty awesome? |
| 16:48.41 | macnewbold | beandog: pong |
| 16:48.46 | beandog | macnewbold, pm |
| 16:48.53 | SunSparc | supernovia: heh, we just hung out at Village Inn |
| 16:48.56 | macnewbold | k |
| 16:49.13 | supernovia | beandog my girl made a tron poster |
| 16:49.23 | beandog | supernovia, oh yah? piccies? |
| 16:49.29 | supernovia | not here with me. it's cute though ;) |
| 16:49.39 | supernovia | s/cute/rad/ |
| 16:49.42 | beandog | that would be fun to make |
| 16:50.53 | supernovia | I tried to scan it wednesday but she said she needs to color it first |
| 16:51.11 | supernovia | (and she was too busy coloring her maraca at that point) |
| 16:51.41 | influx | hola soup |
| 16:53.26 | supernovia | how's it going influx |
| 16:54.03 | influx | Well. You? |
| 16:54.19 | supernovia | good! |
| 16:54.24 | supernovia | although I was just called into a quick meeting . brb |
| 16:57.34 | beandog | http://storycorps.org/animation/ |
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| 17:11.16 | mindjuju | watching videos good |
| 17:11.25 | mindjuju | though right now i'm listening to tolgar |
| 17:13.44 | DexterTheDragon | wooo tolgar |
| 17:13.51 | mindjuju | ^5 |
| 17:13.59 | mindjuju | has anybody heard of splashtop? |
| 17:14.05 | mindjuju | http://www.splashtop.com/splashtop_overview.php |
| 17:14.20 | mindjuju | it's suppose to make netbook start up time be supa small |
| 17:14.41 | mindjuju | i wonder what happened to google os, i don't hear about it anymore |
| 17:18.55 | macnewbold | mindjuju: herlo was showing of his 5-second suspend/resume on his fedora13 lappy |
| 17:19.12 | mindjuju | zoinks! |
| 17:25.31 | mindjuju | k, that's uber cool on so many levels |
| 17:25.31 | mindjuju | http://www.frys.com/product/5970674 |
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| 17:37.37 | influx | Nice! |
| 17:43.48 | herlo | mindjuju: it's awesome! |
| 17:44.33 | beandog | mindjuju, whut? |
| 17:44.49 | beandog | mindjuju, just get a router w/usb :D |
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| 18:02.37 | romanovic | mindjuju: fyi, next trip to Hill takes place in 10 or 11 days. |
| 18:04.53 | beandog | I can never remember |
| 18:04.57 | beandog | how do you do that little hover thing |
| 18:05.01 | beandog | oh wait, <abbr> I think |
| 18:13.04 | mgeary | hey, anyone here looking for FT work? I've been asked if i know anyone who is. Please PM me if you want contact details. I'm too lazy to submit something to the uphpu-jobs list for someone else... |
| 18:17.06 | orsonj | (re: splashtop/suspend) just get an SSD and enable auto login on your desktop |
| 18:18.00 | orsonj | you can get a full boot in 5-10 seconds |
| 18:22.04 | beandog | hibernate > fast boot |
| 18:23.05 | orsonj | ssd speeds hibernate also |
| 18:23.26 | beandog | yah Im just saying, Id rather hibernate than try to get a fast bootup |
| 18:30.48 | orsonj | true, but fast boot is just one of the many benefits of an ssd |
| 18:31.04 | orsonj | you get fast almost_everything_else too |
| 18:31.35 | beandog | yah |
| 18:31.36 | beandog | agreed. |
| 18:31.47 | orsonj | definently, we all need SSDs |
| 18:32.01 | orsonj | and the kind of money that buys them wouldn't hurt either. |
| 18:33.53 | orsonj | OCZ has a small one for about a hundred bucks that the tax refund didn't quite make it to. |
| 18:49.42 | olds | _psychic_: 34 days |
| 19:02.52 | _psychic_ | \m/ |
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| 19:17.42 | mindjuju | DtD, you around |
| 19:17.52 | DexterTheDragon | yo |
| 19:18.02 | mindjuju | good ole' DtD |
| 19:18.14 | mindjuju | Having a bDay sunday, are we? |
| 19:18.23 | mindjuju | congrats! Happy BDay! |
| 19:18.27 | DexterTheDragon | its possible |
| 19:18.52 | mindjuju | getting yourself anything good? |
| 19:19.40 | DexterTheDragon | no |
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| 20:02.55 | undertakingyou | I am wondering if I am chasing tails here. I want to have a mysql query display in a grid. As I say that I don't mean something that just displays in a table row 1 is information one etc. I mean row one has 4 cells. Cell 1 row 1 has data 1, cell 2 row 1 has data 2, cell 1 row 2 has data 5 etc. Is that even possible? |
| 20:05.29 | mgeary | sure it's possible |
| 20:06.01 | mgeary | but you'll need to wrap your own code around your db result iteration to create new rows every X-columns |
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| 20:06.57 | undertakingyou | So a count and when count reaches x add a </tr><tr> kind of thing. |
| 20:07.23 | fungus | In theory it can be done with floating divs |
| 20:07.36 | undertakingyou | o.O? |
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| 20:08.15 | fungus | each data in a div, and use your css-fu to float them, and they will float around to fit inside the container |
| 20:08.38 | fungus | That's the theory, ask a css expert about the implementation though. |
| 20:08.57 | undertakingyou | I have enough CSS knowledge to do simple layout and brake stuff. |
| 20:09.00 | undertakingyou | break |
| 20:09.14 | beandog | Has anyone heard of of a way to use tcp-wrappers to filter user access w/ssh? |
| 20:09.24 | beandog | or any program, I geuss |
| 20:09.34 | fungus | I understand a lot of the theory, but have little/no working knowledge of css. |
| 20:09.45 | mindjuju | beandog, i think heartsbane has |
| 20:10.02 | undertakingyou | beandog: true, Heartsbane does that |
| 20:10.08 | fungus | tcp-wrappers won't filter users, just addresses. IIRC |
| 20:10.39 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane uses them to filter out subnets he doesn't want. |
| 20:10.45 | fungus | right. |
| 20:10.50 | fungus | But not actual user accounts. |
| 20:10.56 | beandog | Hmm |
| 20:10.59 | beandog | I read somewhere it can do that |
| 20:11.01 | beandog | grawr. |
| 20:11.07 | fungus | beandog, have you looked at sshd_config |
| 20:11.18 | fungus | AllowUsers, DenyUsers, AllowGroups, DenyGroups. |
| 20:11.22 | mindjuju | fungus, that looks like <div class="bigContainer"><div class="dataCell">blahblahblah</div><div class="dataCell">2nd blahblahblah</div></div> where container class is the width / height of the display field and data cell is the width/ height and float:left; |
| 20:11.25 | beandog | fungus: oh, no |
| 20:11.28 | mindjuju | undertakingyou ^ |
| 20:12.05 | mindjuju | doing that will cause all data cells to "auto wrap" to the next line if they don't fit |
| 20:12.05 | Heartsbane | Ya I use it to filter out undesirable networks |
| 20:12.20 | undertakingyou | mindjuju: ok, I can give that a shot. Should work for what I want. |
| 20:12.31 | beandog | Heartsbane: you know if you can use it for user access as well? |
| 20:12.45 | fungus | beandog, tcp-wrappers is pretty much just an process aware firewall |
| 20:12.51 | beandog | Hmm |
| 20:12.59 | beandog | where the heck did I read taht |
| 20:13.01 | beandog | thats gonna bug me now |
| 20:13.34 | fungus | but {Allow,Deny}{Users,Groups} is very powerful |
| 20:14.26 | beandog | huh |
| 20:14.28 | mindjuju | undertakingyou, ask me if you have questions, i'll be around intermittenantly for the next hour or so |
| 20:14.28 | Heartsbane | beandog: haven't seen anything like that, you can for services, I refuse SSH access with allowusers |
| 20:14.30 | beandog | I didnt even know that was an option |
| 20:14.42 | macnewbold | mindjuju: have you seen http://2010.utosc.com/ where on the right side it mentions UPHPU? We're just a name with no logo :( |
| 20:14.45 | macnewbold | even GUBUG has a logo |
| 20:14.47 | beandog | Heartsbane: what do you mean? |
| 20:14.47 | macnewbold | but not us :( |
| 20:14.55 | macnewbold | ~greet Heartsbane |
| 20:15.15 | mindjuju | macnewbold, we have a logo, i'll send it over to herlo |
| 20:15.15 | beandog | macnewbold: im sure theres a song in there somewhere |
| 20:15.35 | mindjuju | plus, i have some other stuff for him to look at, though i was planning on send to him Saturday after i can clean i t up a pinch more |
| 20:15.50 | Heartsbane | beandog: I modify the ssh config to grant users ssh priveledges |
| 20:16.10 | Heartsbane | just like Lonnie suggested |
| 20:16.55 | beandog | Heartsbane: oh you mean filter user access? |
| 20:17.25 | Heartsbane | yes |
| 20:18.02 | Heartsbane | of course you can generate a user.pub key and put it in the authorized hosts |
| 20:20.11 | beandog | oh yah |
| 20:20.14 | beandog | thats what Im doing |
| 20:20.28 | beandog | er, maybe |
| 20:20.58 | DexterTheDragon | ~asplode beandog |
| 20:21.13 | beandog | Im working on my netbook right now |
| 20:21.22 | beandog | and I broke my mouse and my fonts,and I'm a little disoriented |
| 20:21.45 | beandog | and now my chair doesnt work |
| 20:21.46 | beandog | fail la la |
| 20:22.48 | beandog | brb |
| 20:23.01 | supernovia | lol |
| 20:24.53 | mindjuju | poor beandog |
| 20:24.59 | mindjuju | i suspect a buffer overflow |
| 20:25.11 | mindjuju | on the tcp-wrapper convo |
| 20:25.15 | supernovia | hehe |
| 20:25.35 | mindjuju | i wonder... |
| 20:25.48 | supernovia | mary, on observing me on this new macbook for the first time⦠"Wow! That looks just like Sheri's computer!" |
| 20:25.58 | fungus | lol |
| 20:26.07 | supernovia | miss mary loves swb :) |
| 20:26.28 | mindjuju | you got a macbook? |
| 20:26.30 | mindjuju | way cool! |
| 20:26.39 | supernovia | Yeah, blendtec sent me home with one :-D |
| 20:26.52 | mindjuju | youo work for BLENDTEC? |
| 20:26.58 | mindjuju | the will it blend people? |
| 20:27.06 | mindjuju | behind those awesome vids? |
| 20:27.13 | supernovia | Yeah! And I even got Tom to commit to doing a presentation at UPHPU :-D |
| 20:27.24 | fungus | no way? really? |
| 20:27.24 | mindjuju | oh that's awesome! |
| 20:27.35 | supernovia | I just got a job there this past week⦠crazy huh? |
| 20:27.41 | mindjuju | congrats to you supernovia |
| 20:27.49 | mindjuju | i saw that you were looking, didn't know you landed it |
| 20:27.50 | supernovia | thanks! It was all ⦠really out of the blue. Craziness |
| 20:27.53 | mindjuju | congrats really! |
| 20:28.11 | supernovia | Thanks! I'm excited ;) Their website def. needs some help.. hehe |
| 20:28.34 | mindjuju | are you still going to do school, or is school back burner for the next semester? |
| 20:28.37 | supernovia | oh and mindjuju get this: they agreed to let me work PT in the summer so I can be the mom |
| 20:28.52 | mindjuju | that's too cool! |
| 20:29.29 | supernovia | seriously. What's more? I was kinda sad thinking gee, (yes) I'm gonna have to let the school thing slide for a while, or maybe just do PT⦠but what about that big dream of doing industrial design? |
| 20:29.56 | supernovia | so I was talking to my new coworker here yesterday about that, and she talked to our boss guy |
| 20:30.16 | supernovia | and basically they said that when they're doing new design stuff in the R&D area that they'll pull me in :-D |
| 20:30.35 | supernovia | just for my two cents and so I can you know, see how it works and learn and stuff.. I am so .. ridiculously.. thrilled |
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| 20:31.18 | mindjuju | yeah! |
| 20:31.34 | mindjuju | it's about time things start going your direction! |
| 20:31.49 | supernovia | I just didn't expect it to all come flying my way at once! |
| 20:32.38 | supernovia | the other stuff I've been trying to get through for the past year is also suddenly shaping up rather nicely |
| 20:33.00 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:33.07 | supernovia | so yeah I am pretty overwhelmed with the awesome direction everything's suddenly taking |
| 20:33.22 | TuxToaster | sounds like it |
| 20:34.03 | supernovia | I keep expecting to wake up |
| 20:34.19 | TuxToaster | nope, I'd say you're awake |
| 20:34.21 | supernovia | heheh |
| 20:34.22 | TuxToaster | ow! |
| 20:34.23 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:34.32 | influx | I'd say your Tux doesn't provide much protection. |
| 20:35.16 | TuxToaster | yeah my firewall is off :P |
| 20:35.23 | supernovia | hehe |
| 20:35.36 | supernovia | well I didn't feel that pinch so maybe I'd better hold off believing it for now |
| 20:35.48 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:36.06 | supernovia | but in the meantime they sent me home with a blender |
| 20:36.27 | TuxToaster | actually one thing I want to find out. |
| 20:36.28 | supernovia | I'll bring it to uphpu ;) |
| 20:36.31 | supernovia | Yeah? |
| 20:36.42 | TuxToaster | is how the blender in the blender/mixer combo compares to the total blender. |
| 20:36.58 | TuxToaster | same price for either one... seems like the mixer combo is a better deal. |
| 20:37.02 | supernovia | My mom has always had the blender/mixer combo (they've made it for a long time I mean) |
| 20:37.06 | supernovia | and she loves it. |
| 20:37.19 | supernovia | but you are dividing the motor between two components |
| 20:37.37 | TuxToaster | true but are you using both at once? |
| 20:37.43 | supernovia | No... |
| 20:37.57 | supernovia | She has had it forever so maybe it's just not as tough as their new ones |
| 20:38.23 | supernovia | but I have seriously never seen anything like this total blender taking a carrot apart |
| 20:38.27 | TuxToaster | hehe |
| 20:39.12 | supernovia | I found out some things don't blend. I think I should get them to post those on the site sometime |
| 20:39.19 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 20:39.25 | supernovia | Razor blades, for example, do NOT blend |
| 20:39.37 | TuxToaster | they seriously should |
| 20:39.38 | mgeary | what do they do? |
| 20:39.40 | mgeary | just bounce around? |
| 20:39.44 | TuxToaster | most likely |
| 20:39.52 | supernovia | but only because it turns out they'll actually fly through the jar at high speed |
| 20:39.53 | TuxToaster | could be a bit dangerous really |
| 20:39.57 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 20:40.26 | supernovia | yeah pretty awesome stuff . heheh |
| 20:41.12 | mgeary | hah. I laugh in the face of danger. "ha ha!" |
| 20:41.17 | supernovia | hehe |
| 20:41.17 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:43.24 | supernovia | but yeah this is going to be a great job, I'm a happy chica |
| 20:43.40 | TuxToaster | that's awesome |
| 20:43.52 | TuxToaster | I'm impressed how flexible they are being with your schedule |
| 20:43.59 | supernovia | I am too! |
| 20:44.25 | supernovia | They're letting me get there after I drop off the kids and leave in time to pick them up in the afternoon |
| 20:44.32 | PoeticIntensity | time to decompress. |
| 20:44.47 | PoeticIntensity | new job, supernovia ? |
| 20:44.48 | TuxToaster | my wife has to fight for that, and she works at a daycare even |
| 20:44.51 | supernovia | Yeah! |
| 20:45.02 | PoeticIntensity | right on! |
| 20:45.13 | PoeticIntensity | congrats on your new blender, BTW. |
| 20:45.26 | supernovia | and I'm thinking how can I possibly deserve any of this? yet they're very happy with me too |
| 20:45.29 | supernovia | Thanks :-D |
| 20:46.15 | supernovia | anyway :) /glurge â but the permagrin stays |
| 20:46.49 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 20:46.54 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 20:47.18 | TuxToaster | supernovia: seriously, if anyone deserves it, it's you. :-) |
| 20:47.21 | TuxToaster | and it's about time too :P |
| 20:47.47 | supernovia | thanks ;) I'm a happy chica |
| 20:48.01 | TuxToaster | we couldn't tell, hehe. |
| 20:48.13 | supernovia | hehe |
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| 20:50.30 | supernovia | </glurge> - oh I guess it would work with the <> here :-p but yeah. for real now. How's everyone else? |
| 20:51.51 | TuxToaster | ready for the weekend! |
| 20:52.24 | supernovia | Me too! I'm going to see if I can take my kids to How to Train Your Dragon in 3d. Then we have a carnival tonight, a 5K tomorrow, a barbecue.. |
| 20:52.41 | supernovia | it'll be good :) |
| 20:52.49 | mgeary | last day working in the US for a while |
| 20:52.55 | mgeary | heading for Germany on Monday morning |
| 20:52.58 | supernovia | really? what's up? |
| 20:53.34 | supernovia | why Germany? |
| 20:53.40 | mgeary | we used to live there |
| 20:53.43 | mgeary | going back for a bit |
| 20:54.38 | supernovia | Hmm, cool |
| 20:55.01 | supernovia | I have never been there, but which part of Germany will you be in? |
| 20:55.51 | mgeary | Cologne |
| 20:55.54 | mgeary | (Köln) |
| 20:56.14 | supernovia | that's cool. Goign to be there a while then? |
| 20:56.33 | mgeary | almost 5 weeks |
| 20:57.55 | supernovia | way cool ;) |
| 20:58.11 | mgeary | yeah, we're really looking forward to it |
| 20:59.26 | supernovia | I forget - you have kids, right? |
| 20:59.30 | mgeary | 3 |
| 20:59.44 | supernovia | and are they in school or too young for that just yet? |
| 21:00.15 | mindjuju | they are in the same age as your kids and mine |
| 21:00.21 | supernovia | ah |
| 21:00.26 | mindjuju | mgeary and I have talked schools in Orem before |
| 21:00.47 | mgeary | 4th, 1st and pre-school |
| 21:01.05 | supernovia | coolio |
| 21:01.05 | mgeary | we'll spend some time doing school work every day |
| 21:01.07 | TuxToaster | supernovia: nice! |
| 21:01.34 | mindjuju | mgeary takes it to the next level though, he decided to teach math so he could be sure child had good math education |
| 21:01.38 | mindjuju | that's uber cool |
| 21:01.48 | supernovia | yeah that is :-) |
| 21:02.04 | supernovia | I uh⦠let my kids play with .. stuff.. to be sure they understand math |
| 21:02.07 | mindjuju | course, with my new found math skillz, maybe i'll do that at home! |
| 21:02.19 | supernovia | yeah mindjuju! Congrats on that class! |
| 21:02.36 | mindjuju | you know the sad / funny thing |
| 21:02.44 | supernovia | ? |
| 21:02.51 | mindjuju | did you hear about that little girl who died a couple days back from house fire |
| 21:02.58 | mgeary | oh, i did :/ |
| 21:02.59 | mindjuju | she was playing with matches in her room with closed door |
| 21:03.10 | mindjuju | so i told corban to listen to the TV while they were talking about it |
| 21:03.29 | mindjuju | and then told him that if he ever wanted to play with matches, to come get me, and I'd supervise out on the drive way |
| 21:03.36 | mindjuju | as long as he promised to not do them in his room |
| 21:03.40 | mindjuju | let's hope it sticks |
| 21:03.43 | supernovia | good move |
| 21:03.46 | mgeary | how old is he? |
| 21:03.50 | mindjuju | 7 |
| 21:03.53 | supernovia | I need to tell my kids that right now |
| 21:04.18 | mindjuju | yup, me too |
| 21:04.33 | supernovia | saying you'll supervise = good move |
| 21:04.56 | mindjuju | demystifies and hopefully takes away some of the allure |
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| 21:05.44 | mindjuju | plus, if he gets to wanting to start a fire, maybe i'll bust out the dutch oven and put it to use |
| 21:05.56 | supernovia | mmm dutch oven |
| 21:06.11 | mindjuju | peach cobler with vanilla bean ice cream |
| 21:06.14 | mindjuju | rock your world |
| 21:07.57 | supernovia | seriously |
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| 21:08.30 | supernovia | but I really should huh |
| 21:08.43 | supernovia | my landlord has a firepit I could use.. |
| 21:09.03 | mindjuju | no dutch oven? |
| 21:09.07 | mindjuju | scary! |
| 21:09.16 | mindjuju | how do you make peach cobbler |
| 21:09.57 | supernovia | I'm afraid I have to stick with brownies most of the time |
| 21:10.16 | jsmith | mindjuju: Peach cobbler? Shoot -- anybody can make peach cobbler in a dutch oven! |
| 21:10.20 | supernovia | but I do give it a go in the oven now and then |
| 21:10.24 | jsmith | mindjuju: Let's bring on the *good* stuff! |
| 21:10.55 | supernovia | Do I smell a UPHPU dutch oven cookoff? |
| 21:10.57 | jsmith | mindjuju: Dutch oven chicken and potatoes... dutch oven stir-fry... dutch oven vegetables... Dutch oven venison stew! |
| 21:10.58 | mindjuju | yeah? like SoS ? |
| 21:11.04 | jsmith | supernovia: Sounds awesome! |
| 21:11.17 | supernovia | Of course |
| 21:11.22 | mindjuju | jsmith, yhou ever had SoS? |
| 21:11.31 | jsmith | mindjuju: What's SoS? |
| 21:11.45 | supernovia | sound of silence? |
| 21:11.51 | mindjuju | sort of a sausage gravy with biscuits |
| 21:11.57 | supernovia | oohlahlah |
| 21:11.59 | mindjuju | except it's ground beef, not sausage |
| 21:12.12 | mindjuju | boy scout food |
| 21:12.19 | mindjuju | it's way yum |
| 21:12.19 | DexterTheDragon | Stuff On a Shingle |
| 21:12.20 | supernovia | I less than three sausage |
| 21:12.36 | mindjuju | DtD knows what's about! |
| 21:13.32 | supernovia | now you guys have me all hungry |
| 21:15.37 | supernovia | what would it take to do a dutch oven fest? |
| 21:18.42 | supernovia | I think some of my friends are doing one tomorrow - hoping so |
| 21:23.53 | ninnypants | supernovia: where did you get a job at? I've seen you mention it |
| 21:23.59 | supernovia | Blendtec |
| 21:24.12 | ninnypants | nice |
| 21:24.21 | supernovia | Yah I'm happy :-) |
| 21:24.21 | ninnypants | what do you do for them? |
| 21:25.03 | supernovia | kinda bridge their it and marketing stuff - their residential website is the first project |
| 21:27.30 | supernovia | hehe nice herlo |
| 21:29.19 | supernovia | but yeah ninnypants I'm kinda doing the design end of tech and the tech end of design, it's a good fit for me. :) |
| 21:30.24 | ninnypants | sweet. how'd you get on there? are they a utah company? |
| 21:31.40 | supernovia | They're in Orem |
| 21:32.14 | supernovia | and honestly I have no idea :) |
| 21:32.50 | supernovia | well, I do know - someone recommended me :) |
| 21:34.14 | ninnypants | recomendations are the best |
| 21:34.36 | ninnypants | so did they give you a blend tech just for signing on? |
| 21:34.39 | supernovia | yeah it was funny, this guy worked for me a long time ago |
| 21:34.44 | supernovia | Yup! :) |
| 21:35.11 | ninnypants | nice. I didn't know you lived close to orem I always thought you lived up in slc |
| 21:35.19 | supernovia | Ah, nope. I'm in Highland |
| 21:35.41 | supernovia | I've never actually lived north of Lehi :-p |
| 21:37.25 | ninnypants | heh. I don't know that I'd want to |
| 21:37.37 | supernovia | I don't mind SLC but I like it here too |
| 21:39.00 | ninnypants | I like slc it's a decently pretty place |
| 21:39.13 | ninnypants | alot prettier that most of provo orem |
| 21:39.37 | herlo | supernovia: thx :) |
| 21:40.04 | supernovia | highland is nice |
| 21:40.08 | ninnypants | It's just got too many people I came from a town that maxed at pop. 650 |
| 21:40.12 | supernovia | I thought my neighbors wouldn't be, but they really are awesome |
| 21:40.18 | supernovia | oh really? |
| 21:40.32 | ninnypants | yeah I like highland. My friends used to live there |
| 21:40.58 | ninnypants | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Oak+City,+UT&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=39.099308,93.076172&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Oak+City,+Millard,+Utah&z=15 |
| 21:41.30 | ninnypants | that's the where I'm from |
| 21:43.04 | herlo | congrats supernovia |
| 21:43.10 | supernovia | thanks :) |
| 21:43.21 | supernovia | ninnypants: that's tiny! |
| 21:43.23 | supernovia | awesome! |
| 21:43.25 | herlo | you should blend an iPad |
| 21:43.32 | supernovia | they already did actually |
| 21:43.36 | herlo | w00t! |
| 21:43.42 | herlo | they should blend *all* the iPads :) |
| 21:43.43 | supernovia | my fave so far though is the silly putty |
| 21:43.49 | supernovia | hehe herlo |
| 21:43.59 | supernovia | actually it turns out they're fairly handy ;) |
| 21:44.02 | herlo | silly putty :) ooh, haven't seen that one... |
| 21:44.10 | herlo | yeah, I'm sure |
| 21:44.23 | ninnypants | herlo: nah they should just change them over to android |
| 21:44.43 | supernovia | you should go check it out. non-newtonian fluids r c00l |
| 21:44.43 | herlo | ninnypants: well, yeah, the form factor is nice :) |
| 21:44.44 | ninnypants | supernovia: yeah it is. best place I've ever been |
| 21:45.11 | ninnypants | herlo: I've never used one, but I love android |
| 21:46.12 | herlo | me too |
| 21:46.19 | herlo | ninnypants: I'm an android-aholic |
| 21:47.03 | ninnypants | I love my droid |
| 21:47.14 | ninnypants | I'm tempted to root it |
| 21:47.16 | herlo | I'm looking at the new android phone |
| 21:47.17 | ninnypants | not sure though |
| 21:47.25 | herlo | ninnypants: I did it, not a big deal at all |
| 21:47.40 | herlo | took about 2 hours for me, but really it's only a 30 minute job |
| 21:47.42 | ninnypants | yeah I think you suggested I do it |
| 21:49.43 | ninnypants | turns out I actually know a guy who works for motorolla |
| 21:56.12 | herlo | :) |
| 21:56.21 | herlo | the droid is cool. that's for sure |
| 21:56.45 | herlo | ninnypants: apparently the droid is harder to root though, the htc phones make it easy |
| 21:57.31 | romanovic-afk | wish t-mobile had the droid. Instead, i have a Cliq that still runs android 1.5 needs to be recharged 3 times a day. |
| 21:57.39 | herlo | it was the droid incredible |
| 21:57.56 | herlo | romanovic: yeah, I run the myTouch, I love it, and it'll last most of a day |
| 21:58.03 | herlo | depending on whether I use the gps or not |
| 21:59.21 | ninnypants | gps just destroy's your battery |
| 21:59.45 | herlo | yup |
| 21:59.48 | herlo | http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/droid-incredible-review/ <-- this one |
| 22:02.09 | supernovia | anyone seen carmony today? |
| 22:02.18 | carmony | hrm? :P |
| 22:02.23 | ninnypants | I haven't |
| 22:02.28 | ninnypants | until now |
| 22:02.31 | carmony | lol |
| 22:02.33 | supernovia | oh hi |
| 22:02.33 | supernovia | lol |
| 22:02.36 | carmony | supernovia: sup :) |
| 22:02.38 | supernovia | got a sec there? |
| 22:04.54 | herlo | Cellphones, Mobile Handsets |
| 22:04.55 | herlo | Droid Incredible review |
| 22:04.55 | herlo | By Joshua Topolsky posted Apr 19th 2010 12:28AM |
| 22:04.55 | herlo | Review |
| 22:04.55 | herlo | At this point, the HTC Incredible should seem like pretty familiar territory to our readers. We first caught wind of the device in a ROM leak back in December of 2009, and shortly thereafter saw lots of little snippets on the phone that made it clear it was headed our way. Of course, it's a potent combination that's been put together here -- an HTC-made, Verizon-locked device sporting a 1GHz Snapdragon CPU, 8GB of internal storage, 748MB of ROM, a microSD slot ( |
| 22:05.02 | herlo | Droid Incredible hands-on |
| 22:05.04 | herlo | Hardware |
| 22:05.07 | herlo | As you've seen in the leaked photos (and more recently, press photos), HTC and Verizon have teamed up to make what looks like it would be a fairly tame, streamlined device into something decidedly edgier. Instead of going for a predictable smooth back, HTC has given the Incredible a tiered, weirdly angular soft-touch casing which the company says is meant to evoke the styling of a race car. We weren't immediately psyched on the concept, but after getting it into |
| 22:05.13 | DexterTheDragon | ~flood herlo |
| 22:05.14 | herlo | Beyond the racing flair, HTC has added some subtle red highlights on the phone (around the camera lens and on the ear-piece), but it's kept things pretty clean around the sides. Up top there's a sleep / power button on the left-hand side, a standard headphone jack on the right, and along the left side of the phone you've got a volume rocker and Micro USB connector. We definitely miss the inclusion of a dedicated mute switch on the recent crop of Android devices, |
| 22:05.21 | herlo | On the front of the device you've got that big, beautiful WVGA display, four touch-sensitive hard buttons (here arranged in HTC's familiar home, menu, back, and search configuration), plus an optical trackpad standing in for the typical trackball found on earlier phones. We were pleased to discover that the wonky sensitivity on the hard buttons we experience on the Nexus One were nowhere to be found here. |
| 22:05.27 | herlo | All in all, the Incredible looks and feels like a modern, sophisticated smartphone with a lot of that masculine edge that Motorola imparted to the Droid along with the curvy smoothness the Droid Eris sports. It's almost like the two devices mated (which kind of makes sense). It's a handsome phone, though we suspect some people will be bothered by the Verizon-inspired tweaks that have been made here. |
| 22:05.33 | herlo | Display |
| 22:05.35 | herlo | In general, the Incredible's display was very reminiscent of the Nexus One screen -- that should come as no surprise, they're identical -- though the touch response seemed notably better here, likely a software issue. Because these displays are the same, it means they share the same issues; we disliked the color intensity on the Incredible just as we did on the Nexus One. Reds and oranges, in particularly, look overwhelmingly saturated here, and other colors are |
| 22:05.42 | herlo | Camera |
| 22:05.45 | herlo | The camera is one of the big selling points of the Incredible. At 8 megapixels, it's obviously one of the highest resolution smartphone shooters on the market -- but is it any good? In our tests, we found the Incredible's camera capable of taking stunning photos -- particularly in daylight settings -- though it also has a few drawbacks that made it a little less usable than we would have liked. First the good though. Unlike other HTC cameras, there doesn't seem |
| 22:05.52 | herlo | Droid Incredible test photos |
| 22:05.54 | herlo | The Incredible also does fairly high resolution video -- up to 800 x 480. We would have liked to see a 720p option here, but we realize we're being hopeless romantics. Regardless, the higher res video did a decent, if somewhat pixelated and slightly stutttery, job at capturing a beautiful Brooklyn sunset. We had better results at VGA resolution, but both modes were more than acceptable for basic shooting. Just don't expect this to stand in for your HD camcorder, |
| 22:06.06 | herlo | 800 X 480 |
| 22:06.21 | herlo | 640 X 480 |
| 22:06.21 | herlo | Sound quality / speakerphone |
| 22:06.21 | herlo | As you may know, we loved the sound quality on the Motorola Droid. In fact, we think it's probably the best sounding phone we've ever used. We didn't get quite as excited about the Nexus One (tinny, not loud enough), but the Incredible has seriously jockeyed for Moto's spot here. The earpiece on this device is loud and clear, but never painful on the 'drums, while the speakerphone is excellent for both conversations and video / audio playback. It's a really soli |
| 22:06.21 | herlo | Storage |
| 22:06.21 | herlo | In a somewhat new move for Android phone, HTC has equipped the Incredible with 8GB of internal storage as well as a MicroSD slot which can handle an additional 32GB -- giving you a whopping potential 40GB of space for your goods. We love the idea of a hardwired option for content storage, but HTC has some problems with this implementation. Firstly, many apps currently available in the Android Market which utilize an SD card for offloading data aren't able to see |
| 22:06.25 | herlo | Software |
| 22:06.28 | herlo | We're not going to go into excessive detail on Android 2.1 and the Sense UI present on this phone, as you can read all the details on the software in our previous reviews of the Desire and the Legend, though there are tweaks and additions here that are worth making mention of. |
| 22:06.32 | herlo | Firstly, we need to talk about the differences between Android 2.1 with and without the Sense UI. If you've looked at a Nexus One (or own one), then you probably know that the experience with the UI is a mixed bag. Some portions of the software have been dramatically cleaned up, while others seem to be left on the cutting room floor. That's absolutely not the case with 2.1 and Sense. Basically, the Incredible -- and all devices with that combo -- feel like compl |
| 22:06.36 | DexterTheDragon | ~kick herlo |
| 22:06.39 | herlo | HTC has done a marvelous job in tweaking Sense in all the right places. The first Sense device we tested was the Hero, which we found to be seriously lacking in the horsepower department, resulting in an experience that was sluggish and disappointing. The performance of the Incredible couldn't have been more opposite. The phone never hiccuped, and scrolling between pages or up and dowd without hesitation. Not only was the UI blazingly fast and responsive -- even |
| 22:06.46 | herlo | It should also be noted that the browser on these phones is equipped with Flash lite, though we had lots of trouble getting videos to play on many of the sites we visited (Engadget included). If someone was hoping to convince us that Flash could work on a device like this, consider the job unfinished. |
| 22:06.51 | herlo | Verizon and HTC have collaborated on a few perks in the OS as well, cleaning up the Google Navigation, er, navigation, and also collapsing Visual Voicemail into the messaging app on the phone, making it easier to get at all your communications at once. We're Google Voice users (which of course perfectly integrates with the device), so we didn't spend much time with Verizon's version. HTC was also happy to point out that its email app supports multiple Exchange, |
| 22:06.58 | herlo | Overall the experience with 2.1 and Sense was a complete pleasure -- using the phone felt fast and efficient. We'd like to point out that we've been running the Incredible without any third party task managers, and without manually killing any applications. Android is designed to multitask without the need for utilities of the sort, and based on Steve Jobs' words from the r to see how this brand new build of the software would fare. We can tell you this -- it ha |
| 22:07.05 | herlo | Network / Battery life |
| 22:07.07 | herlo | As usual, Verizon's network was outstanding. We know everyone already accepts how rock-solid Big Red's connections are, but we'd like to point out that at various times while riding an NYC subway underground, the Incredible managed to squeeze connectivity out of the big V. In fact, when we first took the phone out of its box we were riding the train, and it picked up enough data to auto-update our time and location. Now that really is something. |
| 22:07.13 | herlo | As we said previously, we didn't have an enormous amount of time to test this device, but in the handful of days we had, we found battery life to be good, but not outstanding. In comparison to the Nexus One, it seemed to fare a bit worse; we could get through a day, but things were down to the wire by the end of the night. It's obvious that a lot of these widgets and background processes HTC is running are going to put a strain on your device, and given that we' |
| 22:07.20 | herlo | Wrap-up |
| 22:07.23 | herlo | holy crap |
| 22:07.25 | herlo | sorry everyone |
| 22:07.28 | herlo | that was completely unintentional |
| 22:07.33 | herlo | hrm... |
| 22:07.35 | herlo | I don't think I've ever quite overwhelmed a channel as much as I just did :/ |
| 22:07.38 | herlo | ~beat DexterTheDragon |
| 22:07.40 | herlo | uh, bye bye ibot |
| 22:07.43 | herlo | ibot: where are you? |
| 22:07.43 | ibot | I am at 42.37512 N, 72.51999 W |
| 22:08.16 | romanovic | does the Incredible have a hardware keyboard? |
| 22:08.31 | DexterTheDragon | lets check the review |
| 22:08.35 | romanovic | ughhh... |
| 22:08.46 | DexterTheDragon | no its a touch phone |
| 22:09.31 | herlo | romanovic: no |
| 22:09.43 | romanovic | what a shame. no problem being a touch phone, i am just really picky about my phone keyboards. must have hardware keyboard. |
| 22:09.45 | herlo | romanovic: is that a requirment?? |
| 22:09.51 | herlo | why? |
| 22:10.16 | ninnypants | I hate the touch screen keyboards too |
| 22:10.30 | herlo | have you tried the slide keyboards? |
| 22:10.30 | DexterTheDragon | cause slide keyboard is wicked awesome |
| 22:10.35 | herlo | yeah! |
| 22:10.45 | romanovic | i have just really disliked all the soft keyboards i have ever tried. and i also really dislike taking screen space to type |
| 22:10.51 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: which one you using now? |
| 22:11.05 | herlo | romanovic: I thought those exact same things... |
| 22:11.15 | ninnypants | I love the droids sliding keyboard |
| 22:11.16 | DexterTheDragon | SlideIT |
| 22:11.29 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: did you end up paying for it then? |
| 22:11.50 | herlo | ShapeWriter is *good*, but SlideIT was *rocking* |
| 22:12.16 | DexterTheDragon | yeah it was just so good |
| 22:12.24 | herlo | So here's what I wanted to paste: Let's just put this out there: the Droid Incredible is the best Android device that you can purchase in America right now. It's better than the Droid, better than the Nexus One, and certainly beats the pants off of any previous generation handsets like the Eris, myTouch, or Cliq. It's not just a very, very good Android phone (though it is); it's also an excellent smartphone no matter how you cut it. |
| 22:25.16 | supernovia | alright guys, gotta go be a mom for a while - have a good weekend! |
| 22:27.04 | herlo | ciao |
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