| 00:00.54 | fungus | ok, and with that, i'm headed home for more wow time. :) |
| 00:01.18 | SunSparc | beandog: lol, the official FAQ says "No release date has been set for Star Wars: The Old Republic." |
| 00:01.47 | romanovic | yes, like FAQs do |
| 00:01.56 | SunSparc | yep |
| 00:02.27 | SunSparc | Another site says "Release Date: TBA 2011" |
| 00:02.35 | romanovic | haha |
| 00:02.41 | beandog | ~cookie PR dept. |
| 00:02.52 | beandog | doh. |
| 00:03.38 | SunSparc | Ah, "A company spokesperson posted on the game's http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=109426: "While we have not announced a specific date, we can confirm that we are targeting a spring 2011 release for Star Wars: The Old Republic." |
| 00:07.06 | romanovic | thats actually much less maddening than "At this point, it's too early to provide an estimate of the release date" as seen on starcraft 2 faq for the past (18? 24? 30+?) months. |
| 00:07.37 | SunSparc | heh, yeah, SC2 has been in the works for the better half of a decade now. |
| 00:08.34 | SunSparc | A FPS version of StarCraft would be cool. Like MW2 meets SC. Whoa. |
| 00:08.50 | SunSparc | Or WoW meets SC. Hmmm... FPS WoW. |
| 00:10.31 | beandog | my gosh! |
| 00:10.36 | beandog | *cannot* stop eating butter cookies |
| 00:10.38 | beandog | nom nom nom |
| 00:10.45 | SunSparc | Hand them over |
| 00:10.56 | beandog | SunSparc, please, come take them |
| 00:10.59 | SunSparc | Do you mean, Danish Butter Cookies? |
| 00:11.02 | beandog | Ive eaten half the bag |
| 00:11.10 | beandog | SunSparc, no, those Pepperidge Farm chess ones |
| 00:11.21 | SunSparc | That'll do. |
| 00:11.42 | SunSparc | Can you just DCC them to me? |
| 00:11.47 | SunSparc | ~dcc |
| 00:11.48 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, dcc is a protocol used for sending files on IRC. <asuffield> I suggest burning all people who offer dcc connections |
| 00:19.09 | beandog | whats that |
| 00:19.44 | SunSparc | Yummy |
| 00:19.46 | SunSparc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speculaas |
| 00:21.22 | beandog | Oh man that looks good. |
| 00:22.07 | SunSparc | It is. Add that to your list of tasty treats. |
| 00:22.16 | beandog | I dont have a list. |
| 00:22.36 | SunSparc | ~give beandog a list |
| 00:22.36 | ibot | ACTION gives a list to beandog |
| 01:22.26 | influx | Man. Buying a decent headset has really helped out my game on MW2. |
| 01:22.48 | SunSparc | influx: how so? more immersive? |
| 01:23.19 | influx | Si. I can also hear footsteps from further away. |
| 01:23.26 | influx | So fewer people get the drop on me. |
| 01:23.38 | SunSparc | nice |
| 01:24.10 | SunSparc | influx: what is your username, I will add you to my friends list |
| 01:24.34 | SunSparc | So you can hear my footsteps :) |
| 01:26.31 | influx | Heh. |
| 01:26.35 | influx | You're on PC though, right? |
| 01:26.56 | influx | <-- xbox mang. |
| 01:27.11 | SunSparc | ah, yeah, dang, forgot about all the consolers here |
| 01:27.16 | influx | :3 |
| 01:27.46 | influx | No worries. When I build my gaming machine, I will get set up on that. |
| 01:27.53 | SunSparc | :) |
| 01:27.54 | influx | And then I'll bring the hurt. |
| 01:28.12 | SunSparc | If only PC's and consoles could play together |
| 01:28.24 | influx | 'twould be nice. |
| 01:29.14 | SunSparc | Kinda like being on different WoW realms :( |
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| 01:44.23 | influx | Yeah. |
| 01:44.37 | influx | Oi, I have a question you guys might be able to answer--regarding freelancing and taxes. |
| 01:45.09 | influx | Am I required, or is it a good idea even, to charge tax along with my rate on services rendered? |
| 01:48.04 | SunSparc | influx: I sure hope not, because I never do. |
| 01:48.45 | SunSparc | It has always been my understanding that services are not taxed, but I could be wrong. I am sure the government would want me to be wrong. |
| 01:50.25 | influx | Heh. |
| 01:50.30 | influx | I mean. :| |
| 01:50.34 | influx | Cool. |
| 01:50.56 | SunSparc | I hope so :) |
| 02:17.33 | romanovic | mgeary: ping |
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| 14:57.29 | macnewbold | ~cookie |
| 14:57.38 | macnewbold | whee |
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| 16:37.32 | fungus | http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ |
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| 17:10.15 | itimber | fungus: very cool |
| 17:42.48 | utahcon | I keep seeing "started at facebook" or "originally developed by facebook" or "highly contributed to by facebook" |
| 17:42.59 | utahcon | kinda makes me wish I were at FB :D |
| 18:01.08 | unum | so what is typically done for high availiabilty for postgresql servers |
| 18:01.16 | unum | like if I wanted instant failover |
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| 19:18.53 | beandog | let it snow, let it snow, let it snow |
| 19:31.40 | ninnypants | utahcon: where do you keep seeing that? |
| 19:33.30 | olds | hive is a project that comes to mind |
| 19:33.40 | fungus | or Cassandra |
| 19:33.49 | olds | yup |
| 19:34.05 | olds | scribe |
| 19:38.33 | mindjuju | for those of you on lunch now, i present star trek + monty python http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luVjkTEIoJc&feature=player_embedded |
| 19:38.41 | mindjuju | it's the funniest thing EVAR |
| 19:38.56 | mindjuju | beandog^ |
| 19:55.07 | utahcon | ninnypants: The Cassandra, Thrift, HipHop... saw some other but don't recall them now |
| 19:56.43 | herlo | CouchDB, MongoDB, etc... |
| 19:57.31 | utahcon | yeah those too |
| 19:58.43 | ninnypants | didn't know they contributed that much to OS |
| 19:59.10 | olds | http://developers.facebook.com/opensource/ |
| 19:59.17 | mindjuju | anybody here log any time on sybase? |
| 19:59.21 | mindjuju | eggyknap^ > |
| 19:59.36 | herlo | utahcon: oh, dunno if FB did those. Thought you were naming NoSQL dbs... |
| 19:59.44 | eggyknap | Not I |
| 19:59.57 | olds | that url has a list of projects they created or contribute to |
| 19:59.57 | herlo | but then of course, I didn't even read |
| 20:00.06 | herlo | :} |
| 20:01.37 | ninnypants | that's an impressive list |
| 20:02.16 | ninnypants | I just wish they'd stop trying to OS user data :p |
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| 20:46.40 | mindjuju | i want a taco |
| 20:46.43 | mindjuju | tacos rule |
| 20:49.31 | jsmith | ~buy mindjuju taco |
| 20:49.32 | ibot | ACTION goes to S-Mart and gets a dozen tacos for mindjuju |
| 20:50.41 | influx | i want a bedroom and some sleep |
| 21:00.10 | utahcon | ninnypants: FB only shares the information you give them |
| 21:00.22 | utahcon | what are you telling a Social Network that you don't want shared with the world? |
| 21:01.00 | mindjuju | thx jsmith! |
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| 21:25.05 | herlo | jsmith: ping |
| 21:25.11 | jsmith | herlo: pong! |
| 21:25.15 | herlo | jsmith: oh hai |
| 21:25.32 | herlo | jsmith: when is a good time to bug you about helping me get the UTOS voip server all configurified?? |
| 21:25.34 | jsmith | herlo: Oh hai oh! |
| 21:26.01 | jsmith | herlo: Now is as good a time as any... want to take this to another channel or private message? |
| 21:26.03 | herlo | lol |
| 21:26.18 | herlo | jsmith: yeah, pm is as good as any |
| 21:26.25 | mindjuju | AHHHHHH!!!!! |
| 21:26.43 | herlo | mindjuju: HHHHHHHA!!!!! |
| 21:26.56 | mindjuju | i've got a quick side gig goign for some school $$ |
| 21:27.01 | mindjuju | it was suppose to be real easy |
| 21:27.15 | mindjuju | migrate a txt file of a data dump to ms sql 2k8 |
| 21:27.25 | jsmith | "It was supposed to" is the key phrase there |
| 21:27.29 | mindjuju | k, can do, except that I can't get a schema, they don't know how |
| 21:27.34 | mindjuju | so they give me log in, i log in |
| 21:27.41 | mindjuju | that's weird, there's no ms sql on here |
| 21:27.48 | mindjuju | ah, it's sybase |
| 21:27.59 | mindjuju | hmm, i've got 0.00 time in sybase |
| 21:28.24 | mindjuju | k, so after spending some time getting my bearings and getting something for me to access the server and starting to look over the schema |
| 21:28.29 | jsmith | Aren't MSSQL and Sybase built on the same engine? |
| 21:28.36 | jsmith | (or used to be built on the same engine?) |
| 21:28.42 | mindjuju | bthoom |
| 21:29.05 | mindjuju | so to make matters even better |
| 21:29.11 | mindjuju | i'm looking at the schema finally |
| 21:29.30 | mindjuju | there are prolly 100 (no joke) fields in the table that I've got to insert data into |
| 21:29.53 | mindjuju | and 40 of them are labeld, sequentially, custom_fld_1, custom_fld_2, ad nauseum |
| 21:30.54 | jsmith | Lovely |
| 21:32.01 | mindjuju | no doubt |
| 21:32.13 | mindjuju | though truthfully, i never seem to get past form 3 |
| 21:32.22 | mindjuju | i just don't have it in me |
| 21:32.29 | mindjuju | is that bad? |
| 21:33.30 | jsmith | Nope |
| 21:33.40 | jsmith | Necessity is the mother of invention, or learning as the case may be |
| 21:34.03 | mindjuju | have you gone up to 5 before? |
| 21:34.15 | mindjuju | database nirvana i suppose? |
| 21:35.35 | jsmith | There's a fifth normal form? |
| 21:35.43 | mindjuju | yup |
| 21:36.51 | mindjuju | curiously, i see now that ther e is now a 6th form of normalization |
| 21:37.04 | mindjuju | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Database_normalization |
| 21:37.13 | mindjuju | my poster only goes up to 5 though |
| 21:38.25 | mindjuju | ah blendmaster1024 |
| 21:38.31 | blendmaster1024 | mindjuju, ohhai |
| 21:38.39 | mindjuju | hope you're not mad from yesterday |
| 21:38.43 | blendmaster1024 | no |
| 21:38.48 | influx | ~today-- |
| 21:38.52 | mindjuju | good |
| 21:38.57 | blendmaster1024 | i'm a little concerned that i offended someone, but i'm not mad |
| 21:38.59 | fungus | mindjuju, anything after lvl 5 is usally meant for the criminally insane |
| 21:39.27 | mgeary | offense was dished out yesterday? and i missed it? |
| 21:39.34 | mindjuju | well, so if the wheels are moving slow, what you may want to do is help organize |
| 21:39.42 | mindjuju | mgeary, it was in a different chan |
| 21:39.46 | mindjuju | fungus, no doubt |
| 21:39.48 | blendmaster1024 | mindjuju, that's what i guess i failed at doing |
| 21:40.03 | blendmaster1024 | i kind of gave a prod |
| 21:40.10 | mindjuju | well, calling somebody out in the mailing list would put me on the defensive if it were me |
| 21:40.12 | blendmaster1024 | i didn't mean for the prod to offend though :/ |
| 21:40.16 | mindjuju | you may want to email them directly |
| 21:40.25 | mindjuju | offline of the maling list |
| 21:40.27 | blendmaster1024 | calling them out ..? what --? |
| 21:40.48 | ninnypants | utahcon: I'm not sharing anything all mine goes through twitter. I just think some users would be supprised by what is shared now |
| 21:40.56 | mindjuju | hang on supa quick |
| 21:42.18 | mindjuju | so blendmaster1024, here's what i mean |
| 21:42.19 | mindjuju | so, since we can't seem to decide, how about saturday, 6:00 pm, at any non-Indian restaurant you feel like. as for a head count, me and two other friends are coming, so that's 3 to add. the blendmaster |
| 21:42.29 | blendmaster1024 | that's what i sent ... |
| 21:42.32 | mindjuju | yup |
| 21:43.03 | mindjuju | d00d, since you can't figure it out, i'm droping it, cya by |
| 21:43.08 | blendmaster1024 | lol |
| 21:43.10 | mindjuju | k, see what i mean |
| 21:43.17 | mindjuju | that's not quite the right response |
| 21:43.21 | blendmaster1024 | o.O |
| 21:43.23 | mindjuju | and i didn't mean that, i was giving an example |
| 21:43.42 | mindjuju | but do you see how that's quick and abbresive? |
| 21:43.53 | blendmaster1024 | i guess |
| 21:43.57 | mindjuju | how ever you spell that word |
| 21:44.03 | blendmaster1024 | still seemed perfectly acceptable when you said it :/ |
| 21:44.25 | mindjuju | so all i'm saying is, try a little honey and things will go smoother |
| 21:44.29 | blendmaster1024 | ahh |
| 21:44.34 | blendmaster1024 | ok, now i see what you mean |
| 21:44.39 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:44.46 | blendmaster1024 | and also how it's not end-of-the-world huge either |
| 21:44.56 | mindjuju | yup |
| 21:45.04 | mindjuju | i know you're excited, and that's a good thing |
| 21:45.11 | mindjuju | that's why i say, help organize if you're excited |
| 21:47.15 | mindjuju | ugh, i think i'm going to drop this project. the original dev didn't leave any documentation, there is no rhyme nor reason to the rest of the schema, i can see that the main table has about 50% of the data fields that i need to insert into, but the rest are scattered among prolly 50 other tables |
| 21:47.32 | mindjuju | and it's gonna take far more than a few hours to map everything, let alone import |
| 21:48.35 | mindjuju | it's too bad, it looked like quick easy money |
| 21:49.03 | blendmaster1024 | mindjuju, eh? |
| 21:49.12 | blendmaster1024 | what project? |
| 21:49.38 | mindjuju | a side gig i was going to do, to get book money for next semester |
| 21:49.41 | ninnypants | mindjuju: there's no such thing as quick easy money |
| 21:50.08 | mindjuju | well, i did have an account from out in Georgia that was total gravy train |
| 21:50.21 | mindjuju | several v high paid hours a month made a part time job look pitiful |
| 21:50.47 | mindjuju | but alas, with the downturn in the market, he's cinched his belt and i talk to him monthly but he's not had stuff for me to do in months |
| 21:51.26 | ninnypants | was probably a just a little too gravy train |
| 21:51.40 | mindjuju | yup |
| 21:52.28 | ninnypants | at least you didn't get the you aren't efficient enough so we'll just get a student to do you job for even less than the crap we pay you |
| 21:53.09 | ninnypants | I was organizing and writing half of a professors assignments and quizzes on top of my work when they told me that |
| 21:56.21 | ninnypants | well see you guys later |
| 21:59.46 | mindjuju | man, that sux |
| 22:00.20 | mindjuju | it's bad enough when you have to cut back, but to numb your bad feelings by insulting the person as you fire them, that's a punk thing to do |
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| 22:53.25 | herlo | mindjuju: ping |
| 22:56.23 | carmony | hey, any mac users that also have a sip client? |
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| 23:40.04 | mgeary | sip? |
| 23:40.44 | mgeary | ah, voip stuff |
| 23:40.48 | mgeary | i'm clueless there |
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