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02:56.42Jacob_KerrHey guys I have an form upload that seems to be having compatibility issues. It works great for me in many dif browsers but some users go through the whole upload process and everything checks out on the server side but the files do not upload.
02:56.46Jacob_Kerrthis is over an SSL
02:58.30Jacob_Kerrhttps
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14:17.51macnewboldif Jacob_Kerr comes back this morning, have him check that he's setting his form enctype="multipart/form-data"
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16:03.36beandog~morning
16:03.37ibotGood morning!
16:03.45beandog~tuesday
16:03.46ibotTuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday).
16:07.29cedwardsand after that it's: WTF
16:07.44influx:|
16:09.49mgearysee, i like Tuesday, because it's got such low expectations
16:12.21cedwardss/Tuesday/your mom/ & s/it's/she's/
16:12.48mindjujufunny
16:13.14cedwardsI blame it on lurking on Reddit too much lately.
16:13.57influxThat's what she said.
16:14.01influx*badm bm tsh*
16:15.32cedwardsyou win
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16:35.16TuxToasteranyone have experience developing apps that deal with VAT?
16:38.46macnewboldi've heard of it...
16:39.06macnewboldiirc the last one we did that dealt with VAT it was a whole lot like salestax
16:39.56TuxToasteryeah the main hang up seems to be handling different rules for different situations.
16:40.09TuxToasterand tracking where the customer is making the purchase from, etc.
16:43.13mgearyyeah, messy stuff
16:43.23mgearywith a lot of ramifications
16:44.03TuxToasteryup.
16:44.12TuxToasternot looking forward to it.
16:44.33TuxToasterbut since we are going to be marketing our products in Europe and elsewhere, my opinion is we need to support it.
16:44.42TuxToastermy boss doesn't necessarily agree.
16:45.45mindjujudag, nobody appreciates great humor
16:45.55TuxToasterlol
16:46.16mgearyTuxToaster: do you have a business presence in Europe? does your business have a tax identity there?
16:46.25TuxToasterno
16:46.34mgearyif not, i don't see how you could collect and submit VAT
16:46.45mindjujuyeah, i was just starting to wonder the same thing
16:46.46mgearynot that i'm an accountant or tax lawyer
16:47.04TuxToastermgeary: WE don't have to, but our customers do.
16:47.15TuxToasterour product is an airline reservation and management system
16:47.28mgearyi see, so your customers collect the VAT, not you
16:47.35TuxToasteryep
16:47.45mgearywell, good luck with that ;)
16:47.48TuxToasterso the software needs to support VAT in order for them to charge it appropriately on flights and invoice customers for it
16:47.59TuxToasteryeah, going to be messy I think
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17:53.34carmonywell, I just wrote my own serializer for PHP to use JSON instead of that crazy stuff PHP uses :P
17:53.55TuxToasternice
17:56.36beandogcarmony, what crazy stuff
17:58.34carmonyhttp://paste2.org/p/797034
17:59.05carmonythe first line is what serialize() produces
17:59.13carmonythe other line is a json version
17:59.22carmonyjson is much more standard and interoperable
18:01.45beandogcarmony, cant you use json_encode?
18:01.53carmonyyes
18:01.54carmonybut!
18:01.58carmonywhen you decode it
18:02.12carmonyall your objects are going to be stdClass instances
18:02.22carmonyinstead of the object they were serialize as
18:02.33beandogIve never heard of using seralized
18:02.36carmonyso I added some logic ontop of the json_encode/json_decode
18:02.37beandog*serialize
18:02.48beandogwhat would you use it for?
18:03.53beandogreading the description doesnt really explain it fo rme
18:03.53jtsnowstoring an array or object in a database field
18:03.53beandogwhy would you do that?
18:05.47TuxToastercarmony: cool. I like it
18:05.50jtsnowmaybe you have an object, for example a session object. You may not need to query across each individual attribute in that object and the attributes may vary greatly, but you still want to store it
18:06.09TuxToasterbeandog: you could store custom objects with it
18:07.16TuxToasterplus, in theory, the object would be usable by anything that could read json as well, correct?
18:07.22carmonyyup
18:07.27beandoghuh
18:07.28beandogthats interesting.
18:07.32TuxToasterI like it.
18:07.50TuxToasterI hadn't used JSON much until recently
18:07.51jtsnowalso useful for caching data
18:09.18TuxToasterbut doing XML from an iPhone app was a pain, doing json is so much easier
18:10.45mgearyjson's awesome
18:10.54TuxToastercarmony: so presumably you would just json_decode the stored object to use it again?
18:11.04TuxToasteror did you write something to do that as well?
18:11.07carmonyhere, let me post my code
18:11.58TuxToastermgeary: agreed. My only complaint is it's not as easy to look at a raw response like you can with XML. But it works.
18:12.05TuxToasterand it's light. :-)
18:12.14carmonyhttp://paste2.org/p/797055
18:12.34carmonythe only difference between what I'm doing and json_encode/json_decode normally do
18:12.48TuxToasterschweet. didn't take much code to do that even
18:13.01carmonyis if it a class, I set an extra variable called __class
18:13.07carmonyso when I unserialize it
18:13.11mgearyi use the json php extension
18:13.13carmonyit nows which class to instanciate
18:13.31carmonyso my code is built on top of the default php json classes
18:13.35carmonyfunctions even
18:13.52TuxToasternice
18:14.11TuxToasterI need to get better at declaring functions properly.
18:15.38jtsnowcarmony: doesn't the native serialize functionality store the object class as well?
18:15.51carmonyyes, but as a Generic object
18:15.55carmonynot a specific class instance
18:16.24jtsnowhmmm... http://codepad.org/mGQZrjdm
18:16.26carmonyso if I have a class called "Customer", I serialize it, then unserialize it
18:28.01mgearyhey, i'm using xargs, but not find, to get a list of files to process. The files have spaces in their names. how can i get xargs to treat them properly?
18:28.21mgearyi tried xargs -0, but that doesn't work unless you're using find with -print0
18:32.42mgearyanyone? anyone?
18:34.57mgearybah. every example i find uses find
18:44.10fungusmgeary, what process is sending the data to xargs?
18:44.15fungusHow is that data formatted?
18:44.27mgearysvn st | grep ! | cut -b 9- | xargs svn rm
18:44.42mgearydoing an svn rm on some removed files that had spaces in their names
18:44.45fungusso is that just one file per line?
18:44.48mgearyyes
18:45.13fungusxargs -d "\n"
18:45.29fungusthat changes xargs to split args on newlines instead of the default whitespace
18:45.52mgearyxargs: illegal option -- d
18:45.59funguson a mac??
18:46.02mgearyyep
18:46.05fungusdoh
18:48.41fungusprobably have to append a null to each line before passing to xargs
18:48.47fungusthen the -0 will work
18:49.26fungusmaybe something like this:  sed "s/$/\0/" | xargs -0
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18:52.02SlowMotionCoolhello all
18:53.10mgearyhi Christian
18:53.43SlowMotionCoolneed a little bit of some help with smarty, anyone knwo anything about it?
18:53.58SlowMotionCoolif i store html content in a table and have a {$foo} tag in it, after smarty displays the page the link actually has {$foo} in it and not its assigned value, do i have to do anything diffrenet with the mysql data for smarty to see it correctly?
18:54.22mgearyyes
18:54.31mgearyhttp://www.smarty.net/manual/en/language.function.eval.php
18:54.38SlowMotionCoolsweet, please enlighten me
18:54.48SlowMotionCoolreadign it now. thanks you much
19:01.24SlowMotionCoolok i read that. this is my prob, i have in a text filed in a mysql table on a server running php5 something, i have a index.tpl file that displays a link from a database. the link is <a href="http://foo.{$site_vars.site_domain}/"> but when smarty does its thing and the page builds when i mosue on the link it says http://avira.{$site_vars.site_domain} when i do this from a tpl file its fine
19:01.42SlowMotionCooljust on these linsk, so i dont know if using eval is my issue or not. kind of unsure
19:02.12mgearythe thing is that you've got a variable inside a variable
19:02.35SlowMotionCoolok, yup i understand that, so i need to pass the vars somehow
19:02.43mgearysmarty won't recurse through variables, looking for additional {}s
19:02.50SlowMotionCooloph i didnt know that
19:03.36SlowMotionCooldo you have a recomendation? im always open to solutions
19:03.44mgearyyou need to use eval
19:03.47SlowMotionCooland ill do the research no probs
19:04.03SlowMotionCoolok ill try it , i need to look at it more as i dont know it already
19:04.05SlowMotionCoolthanks
19:04.15mgearydo a simple eval and then build up from there
19:04.24SlowMotionCooli read what you sent, so ill reead it and google it
19:04.29SlowMotionCoolok cool
19:10.44herlomindjuju: ping...
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19:25.43carmonyman, I need to stop watching the trends on twitter
19:52.13SlowMotionCoolhey mgeary : you here still?
19:53.13SlowMotionCoolmgeary : just wanted to say thanks for showing me eval. works great
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20:31.08romanovicmgeary: ping
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21:01.21macnewboldSlowMotionCool: eval is evil
21:01.36macnewboldone big security hole, with a bunch of little security holes
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21:14.13mindjuju~lart macnewbold
21:14.13ibotbeats macnewbold over the head with a microkernel
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22:41.56mindjujuk, who here is guru in Zend Framework
22:42.04mindjujuthat's looking for a 6mth contract?
22:50.20mgearyromanovic: ping
22:50.41mindjujucarmony ping
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22:50.57mindjujudo you know any zend contractors looking for work?
22:51.15Dezertolnot really
22:51.38DezertolI mean.. I work for a dev company they "as a company" might be interested
22:51.50Dezertolbut as for individual people....
22:52.08Dezertoleveryone I know is stupid busy right now
22:53.17mgeary...or just stupid
22:53.40Dezertolif they where stupid they wouldn't be busy
22:54.10Dezertolunless you consider world of warcraft busy
22:54.19Dezertolthere are a lot of them
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