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00:34.55carmonyOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGG
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07:15.45beandoglook! its the top poster!
07:15.50beandog~shun mgeary
07:15.51ibotYou are dead to me, mgeary.
07:16.18beandog:)
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14:47.49ninnypantsmorning all
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16:19.18josephscottmindjuju: ping
16:19.26josephscottI had a typo in my text
16:20.07josephscott*pure* should have been *purr*
16:39.09itimberaaaahhhh... Friday!
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17:19.50mindjujuutahcon is mixed up
17:20.32mindjujuDtD - http://wildfireapp.com/website/6/contests/23228
17:29.00josephscottmindjuju: ping
17:29.17mindjujujosephscott: pong
17:29.25josephscottI had a typo in my text
17:29.29utahconwhat I am mixed up on?
17:29.31josephscott*pure* should have been *purr*
17:29.33josephscottmy bad
17:29.42josephscottI read it like a dozen times and still missed it
17:29.46mindjujui'll fix it on the blog post
17:29.57josephscottprobably not worth a new email, but the blog post could be updated
17:30.13utahconstill unsure how I am mixed up
17:30.19mindjujuutahcon, what's this man epxo
17:30.27utahconAll things MANLY!
17:30.28mindjujuyou should be outside grilling!
17:30.36mindjujuyeah, like what?
17:30.39herloutahcon: I want to go!
17:30.45mindjujufart wind tunnels?
17:30.55mindjujucouches?
17:30.55utahconmindjuju: manexpos.com
17:31.18utahconSports, Cars, Electronics, Out door things, gadgets (guessing)
17:31.30utahconI am personally hoping for booth babes
17:31.31utahconand beer
17:31.42utahconI will settle for no beer if the booth babes are hot enough
17:32.00utahconalso if interested Skid Row and Great White after the main floor show
17:32.56mindjujui'm on the site and all i see is men
17:33.05mindjujuno sign of any ladies, not that i'd look
17:33.14utahconmindjuju: i too see that :(
17:34.32mindjujui mean, maybe if it were catered by a certain wing establishment whose name might be found in the avian family, that'd be something
17:35.16utahconmindjuju: it's the internet Hooters is not offensive anymore
17:35.17utahcon:D
17:35.47utahcontheir site sucks
17:36.02mindjujuyeah, v slow
17:36.26utahconnope nohootesr
17:36.41utahconnope, no hooters. Someone has failed. Probably put on by a woman.
17:37.08mindjujulike i said on FB, you should be grillign a steak tonight
17:37.13mindjujuit's going to be nice weather out
17:37.40utahconoh there will be much more tha Man Expo in my evening
17:37.45utahconI think I may go home and weld something
17:37.50utahconwhy? BECAUSE I AM A MAN!
17:38.53mindjujuwelding!
17:39.36mindjujuyou know
17:39.49mindjujui think i'm going to the store to pick up a nice steak
17:39.56mindjujuor a huge turkey leg
17:40.38mindjujuutahcon, guess what i'm doing this summer
17:40.43mindjujuFIREPIT!
17:41.05utahconI am so coming to hang out at your place and apply flame to animal carcass
17:42.51mindjujuyes, that's true
17:42.58utahconhowever... build the fire pit anyways :D
17:43.00mindjujuand i saw alton build a tandori
17:43.08mindjujubut the fire pit is about all things primal
17:43.09mindjujupit
17:43.11mindjujufire
17:43.14mindjujumeat
17:43.17mindjujucooking
17:43.20mindjujugrunt
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17:44.55utahconI knew he'd come back
17:46.10utahconmentally
17:46.37utahcondude mindjuju ... I am going to go buy a house (build) in Daybreak tomorrow.. :D
17:47.13utahconyes... taste
17:48.16ninnypantsfiber is awesome
17:48.30utahconfiber makes things go fast
17:49.28ninnypantsthat it is
17:49.43ninnypantsIt was realy weird switching from comcast to fiber
17:49.57utahconin that weirdly awesome kind of way?
17:52.55ninnypantsIn the way that only going from 1meg down to 15meg down can make you feel
17:53.38itimberthis is Utopia you're talking about?
17:53.54itimberwho would one talk to in order to get Utopia in Ogden?
17:54.20orsonjprobably the devil
17:54.30wpsha ha ha
17:54.40ninnypantsmostlikely
17:54.47itimberGodfrey?
17:54.53itimberhaha... couldn't resist
17:54.54ninnypantsI just moved to provo
17:55.00ninnypantsfor the net
17:55.06itimberNICE
17:55.15itimberas good a reason as any
17:55.53utahconI dont think I could do that to myself... move to Provo
17:56.17ninnypantsit's not bad when you work in the area
17:56.50utahconthus stopping me from being a proud owner for a Nexus One...
17:57.06herlolol
17:57.06ninnypantslater
17:58.22mindjuju@josephscott pure = purr on website now
17:58.34josephscottthanks, can't believe I missed that
17:59.11mindjuju:)
18:01.21mindjujuah it's friday, time for some good music!  100% no rickroll guarantee MJ remix! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh8_4qqX5bo
18:01.30wpsmindjuju: how do you pull up a command prompt in winders?
18:01.42wpsI usually use widnows + r, and them type cmd
18:01.43mindjujustart > run > cmd
18:01.56wpsah… yeah… run
18:01.56wpsthanks
18:02.02wpsI'm on a virtual box and don't have a winders key
18:02.11mindjuju:)
18:02.22mindjujuhow you been wps?
18:02.30mindjujuDtD MUST watch the youtube link i posted
18:02.38wpsdoing great
18:02.42wpsthanks
18:02.44wpsyou?
18:03.07mindjujui'll be doing well when school finishes
18:03.22wpstrying to get MSAccess to talk to an MySQL database at Bluehost (via ODBC) for a client
18:03.29wpsug
18:04.26wpsif it works though, it'll be an easy way for them to run their own queries
18:04.32mindjujui know you can go Access to MS SQL, but i've never done Access to MySQL
18:04.57wpsMySQL provides a driver
18:05.05wpshttp://dev.mysql.com/downloads/connector/odbc/
18:05.41Utah_Davewps: We do access to MySQL a lot here.
18:05.52wpsdo you use that driver I just linked to?
18:05.58Utah_DaveYeah, we do
18:06.02wpscool
18:06.02mindjujui've used the odbc connector before, but that was for PHP on WAMP
18:06.07wpsgood to know it works
18:06.14wpsI am 99% that the issues is bluehost's
18:06.20wpsthey aren't letting the inbound connection through
18:06.39Utah_DaveOur operations dept. had a huge Access database that kept crashing the access tables because too many people were using it at once
18:06.57Utah_DaveWe moved all the tables into a MySQL database and suddenly all their problems went away
18:06.57mindjujuhow many people utah_dave?
18:07.03mindjujuwe have 60 people here
18:07.12Utah_Daveonly about 30 people
18:07.18mindjujudid you know technet says you can have 255
18:07.23mindjujuthat's a bunch of crap
18:07.28Utah_DaveYep
18:07.42Utah_DaveWe've been moving a bunch of the functions from Access to a web app
18:08.03mindjujuit used to say a much smaller number, we had to explain to the boss what theoritical v real-life meant
18:08.11Utah_Daveyeah
18:08.46Utah_Davewps: I've never tried connecting to my Bluehost account through access, but when I tried connecting another website to it Bluehost support said that I had to set up an SSH tunnel to do that
18:11.25wpshmm
18:12.08mindjujuso, is this saying that this driver needs XP 64bit to run?  http://www.lsi.com/DistributionSystem/AssetDocument/support/downloads/hbas/scsi/software_drivers/windows/lsimptxpx64.txt
18:15.45wpsthat's strange that they told you that, Utah_Dave
18:15.59wpsin their cPanel, they have a screen for adding remote hosts
18:16.08Utah_DaveYeah, I was just looking at that.
18:16.09wps(white listing hosts that should be able to remotely connect)
18:16.34Utah_DaveI can't remember exactly the situation I was trying to iron out.
18:16.45Utah_DaveMaybe it was an outgoing connection. Hmm. I don't remember.
18:16.50Utah_DaveBut you're right. I see that there, too
18:18.48wpsAHHH!!!! I just got hoodwinked!
18:18.48mindjujufungus, you around?
18:18.56fungusyup
18:19.12wpsI installed a java update and didn't notice the pre-checked check box for installing the MSN toolbar until it was too late
18:19.16mindjujuso in my dell precesion 650, i have this chip
18:19.17mindjujuhttp://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/standard_product_ics/scsi_ics/lsi53c1020/index.html
18:19.33wpsthere are few things that piss me off more than crap like that this the bundle in with updates/installs
18:19.34wpssheesh
18:19.36mindjujuwhen the computer boots up, the scsi array comes online and it's happy
18:19.58mindjujunow, winders xp doesn't see the scsci drive
18:20.04josephscotthttp://wildammo.com/2010/04/06/what-stormtroopers-do-on-their-day-off-part-2/
18:20.20mindjujuand the scsi host driver in device manager is coming up with a problem
18:20.45mindjujuso, when I try to give it the winxp driver, it says the driver doesn't work for the chip
18:21.03mindjujunow, i'm noticing that to the right of the OS version, it says 64-bit
18:21.19mindjujuand reading the readme, it seems to be asking for win xp 64b
18:21.39mindjujubut i don't think the precesion is 64b
18:23.07fungusif it's a fake raid (requires drivers)  you just need to find the correct drivers.
18:23.19fungusif it's a real raid, drivers are optional
18:23.47fungusa real raid presents the whole volume to the OS as a single drive
18:24.26fungusfake raid, half way between real/hardware raid and software raid, requires drivers to communicate to the OS.
18:24.44mindjujujust reading that on wikipedia when you mentioned fake raid
18:24.49mindjujudidn't know there ws a fake
18:25.27fungushehe, yup
18:26.05fungusif the RAID came with the computer you can probably just get the drivers from Dell
18:26.12macnewboldi knew about hw vs sw, but i didn't know they made an inbetween too
18:27.09fungushttp://support.dell.com/support/downloads/driverslist.aspx?c=us&cs=2684&l=en&s=pub&catid=-1&dateid=-1&formatid=-1&hidlang=en&hidos=WLH&impid=-1&os=WW1&osl=EN&scanConsent=False&scanSupported=False&TabIndex=&typeid=-1&SystemID=WRK_PNT_P4_650
18:27.14wpsUtah_Dave: is it possible to have this Access connection be read-only?
18:27.46Utah_DaveYeah. When you create your user in the database you can configure what rights they have to the database
18:28.04Utah_DaveWe have a user with read only rights to certain parts of the database and read/write to other parts
18:28.12fungusmacnewbold, yeah.  There are some vendors that do that.  I think promise is one of them.  
18:28.36fungusBetter performance than software only, but cheaper than real hardware raid
18:29.23wpsah… yeah… dug
18:29.26wpsduh
18:29.40wpsit's a MySQL setting (rights)… not a feature of the driver/ODBC thing
18:29.40wpsthanks
18:30.17Utah_DaveNo problem.
18:31.18Utah_DaveGlad I could be of help. I think we currently stand at:   wps helping Utah_Dave 1,230,309,391 vs Utah_Dave helping wps 1
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18:54.52BBertolais mindjuju on here? or is he afk?
18:56.33DexterTheDragon~ping mindjuju
18:56.34ibotpong mindjuju
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19:10.54mindjujuhey BBertola, just getting back from banging my head into a wall
19:11.12BBertolaah, hope it wasn't my fault
19:11.26mindjujunope, trying to bring a box online and running into issues
19:11.44mindjujudid you figure out what was causing you grief in your menuing system?
19:12.07BBertolano, i haven't been able to get into it just yet
19:12.38mindjujuis it all versions of IE that's doing the weird stuff or just IE 8?
19:13.51BBertolai think it might be ie8, but I don't have ie to test with immediately, i could talk to my brother, i know he's online right now
19:13.51mindjujumight be good to know
19:14.04mindjujuthere are also a couple sites that take images of your web site in different browsers
19:14.09mindjujushows whats broken
19:14.15mindjujui think there are one or two even that are free
19:14.38BBertolacool, i will get that checked, I just checked with IE8 and it works fine, running over to see if someone has IE 7
19:15.02DexterTheDragonhttps://browserlab.adobe.com/index.html
19:15.09BBertolathank you dexter!
19:15.14BBertolaor should I call you dragon?
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19:19.14BBertolahow long does it take to generate the previews?
19:19.29DexterTheDragonhandful of seconds
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19:20.10mindjujuso is the only time you can load in the drivers for a SCSI controler when you're first installing the OS?
19:20.40wpsUtah_Dave and anyone else interested
19:20.44wpsthe issue was permissions
19:21.00wpsthe Bluehost tech deleted the MySQL user and recreated him and now it works
19:25.21fungusmindjuju, no.  It works as a standard hardware driver.
19:26.14mindjujudell only packages drivers on a floppy and says to install, you have to do it using the win xp install
19:26.15fungusIMHO, with every Dell supplied piece of hardware should have it's Dell supplied drivers installed.
19:27.25fungusAre you sure it says you "must"?  Most scsi drivers have them on floppys to make installing possible
19:27.54mindjujuwell, when i download the "driver" the first thing it does is look for the floppy
19:28.03mindjujuit throws an error
19:28.27mindjujui should just go look for a floopy drive
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19:29.10BBertolamindjuju, the problem is in IE7
19:29.21funguswhy not try reading the docs?  :)
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19:31.05mindjujuhave read, as mentioned above with the readme file and xp64
19:43.12BBertolaanyone use vmware fusion on mac?
19:46.08orsonji think we have some people using it here
19:46.33BBertolait should work with an OEM version of windows 7, right?
19:47.16orsonjwe are using it with xp, but 7 shouldn't be a problem
19:48.09orsonjI think my boss is trying out 7 in one of his vm's
19:48.55orsonjyes, he confirms that he hasn't seen any problems
19:49.15BBertolanice
19:50.01herloBBertola: do you know a Ben Bertola?
19:50.12BBertolayep, my brother
19:50.17herloI used to work with him at Big Planet
19:50.28BBertolaawesome, and you probably knew max bertola, my dad
19:50.28herloand your dad too iirc
19:50.32herlo:)
19:50.40herloBBertola: welcome
19:50.50herlotell Ben hi for me
19:50.50BBertolathanks!
19:51.00BBertolatell him hi from who?
19:51.08herloBBertola: if you do a /whois herlo
19:51.20herloyou can check someone's info, but my name is Clint Savage
19:51.42BBertolacool, i'll tell him
19:52.02herloyeah, I thought you might've been him.  Haven't seen the Bertola name around for a while...
19:52.40BBertolaya, its not a very common one
19:53.13josephscottcarmony: want php fundamental are you going to talk about on Thursday?
19:53.31herloBBertola: how do you know mindjuju ??
19:53.50carmonyjosephscott: haven't decided yet, got any suggestions?
19:53.59mindjujuhe saw me on america's most wanted
19:54.00BBertolajust recommended to him yesterday, i actually know thebigdog because we worked at ewatches
19:54.02mindjujuthat's how
19:54.03BBertolalol
19:54.12herloBBertola: ahh...
19:54.20josephscottis there  a list of things you've already covered?
19:54.54BBertolai was thebigdog's jedi in training
19:55.02herlonice
19:57.38mindjujuhere is a pic of thebigdog jedi uniform - http://bit.ly/cXeSIJ
19:59.23herlohaha
20:03.30orsonjI've been watching Highlander on Hulu and that just reminded me of the cops wearing those silly helmets.
20:04.01mindjujui know its nigh unto blasphemy, but I've actually never seen highlander
20:04.04mindjujuhear its good though
20:06.36orsonjI like it, and it still works even though you can tell how old it is.
20:07.24orsonj(I'm about halfway through the first season)
20:07.51BBertolaherlo: ben says hi back
20:16.39mindjujufeels like a bigplanet reunion in here
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20:31.24BBertolamindjuju: did you work at bigplanet too?
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20:33.34mindjujupaid my dues
20:34.17BBertoladid you know ben or max bertola?
20:36.07mindjujuben sounds familiar
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20:40.54herloBBertola: cool
20:41.51herloben went to work at an ISP in orem
20:41.54herloafter BP
20:46.45BBertolai think so. he works in portland now
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21:00.42herlonice, how does he like portland?
21:02.27BBertolahe loves it, he's been there for 6 or 7 years now
21:02.39BBertolai may move out there when i finish my degree as well
21:03.01herlonice, where does he work?
21:03.55BBertolaits a company that puts on tradeshows and stuff, he programs the framework
21:04.00BBertolai don't know the name though
21:04.17BBertolahe worked for hollywood video until a couple of years ago
21:05.04herlooh, nice
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