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| 14:26.14 | ninnypants | morning all |
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| 15:36.37 | itimber | morning guys |
| 15:37.29 | Utah_Dave | morning! |
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| 16:00.38 | thebigdog | morning everyone |
| 16:02.29 | mindjuju | doing bankers hours today thebigdog? |
| 16:02.36 | mindjuju | how was golfing this morning? |
| 16:02.42 | mgeary | mindjuju: "today" ?? |
| 16:02.56 | mindjuju | touche! |
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| 16:06.49 | itimber | ha |
| 16:06.52 | itimber | yes, fo sho |
| 16:07.35 | itimber | perks of workin'-fo-da-man |
| 16:07.51 | itimber | ~away meeting |
| 16:07.52 | ibot | /away meeting |
| 16:07.59 | mindjuju | curious, i work for the man and still have crazy hours |
| 16:08.05 | mindjuju | maybe i'm doing it wrong |
| 16:09.22 | mindjuju | hmm |
| 16:09.35 | mindjuju | network solutions lets you register a domain for up to 100yrs |
| 16:09.44 | mindjuju | that's quite the leap of faith in humanity |
| 16:10.25 | mgeary | hahahah |
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| 16:19.47 | mindjuju | hmm, maybe Rite Aid should quit putting its stores next to Walgreens as a business practice - http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/109251/businesses-on-the-brink-change-or-fail??mod=career-leadership |
| 16:19.51 | mindjuju | sheesh |
| 16:20.30 | thebigdog | you guys think that i work bankers hours |
| 16:20.35 | thebigdog | man that is too funny |
| 16:20.50 | mgeary | ~slacker thebigdog |
| 16:20.53 | mindjuju | mosy in at 10a, leave at 3p |
| 16:20.58 | thebigdog | mindjuju: that is the practice that BK took with McD |
| 16:20.59 | mindjuju | lunch in the middle |
| 16:21.20 | mindjuju | yeah, but bk with its fire-grilled burgers |
| 16:21.21 | mindjuju | yum |
| 16:21.33 | mindjuju | if you've got the product, sure park next to the competition |
| 16:21.38 | thebigdog | funny...BK didnt start the fire-grilled burgers |
| 16:21.50 | mindjuju | if you're both practically the same, then, you're asking for trouble |
| 16:21.52 | mgeary | they didn't start the fire? neither did we |
| 16:22.04 | mgeary | it was always burning, since the world was turning |
| 16:22.07 | mindjuju | doesn't matter who started, it's who perfected |
| 16:22.11 | mindjuju | and that's whopper king |
| 16:22.27 | thebigdog | haha |
| 16:22.31 | mindjuju | check |
| 16:22.32 | mindjuju | mate |
| 16:22.35 | mindjuju | ;p |
| 16:23.05 | mindjuju | i love walgreens, reminds me of texas |
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| 16:23.17 | thebigdog | mindjuju: lets be honest though...i am the shizzle |
| 16:23.26 | mindjuju | ~thebigdog |
| 16:23.27 | ibot | well, thebigdog is the postgreSQL guru, a GWAR groupie, or secretly loves AOL, or a lover of cursors, or now 33. Frank Black, or looooves MSSQL databases |
| 16:23.40 | mindjuju | ibot, thebigdog is also the shizzle |
| 16:23.41 | ibot | okay, mindjuju |
| 16:23.46 | mindjuju | ~thebigdog |
| 16:23.47 | ibot | somebody said thebigdog was the postgreSQL guru, a GWAR groupie, or secretly loves AOL, or a lover of cursors, or now 33. Frank Black, or looooves MSSQL databases, or the shizzle |
| 16:23.51 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:24.12 | mindjuju | ...sigh... ANTOHER ebook reader?? |
| 16:24.58 | thebigdog | who that is a couple years old |
| 16:25.12 | mindjuju | the article? |
| 16:25.19 | mindjuju | it's from the first |
| 16:26.04 | mindjuju | man, blockbuster folding, that's sad |
| 16:26.10 | mindjuju | i can see the conversation now |
| 16:26.45 | mindjuju | Grandpa, where did you work after high school? Oh, I worked at blockbuster. What's blockbuster? Well, it was a video store. What's a video store... |
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| 16:31.09 | mgeary | blockbuster is folding? |
| 16:31.32 | mindjuju | stock at 30 cents |
| 16:31.34 | mindjuju | CENTS |
| 16:31.52 | mindjuju | and it has nearly a BILLION (dr Evil accent) in debt |
| 16:43.09 | fungus | blockbuster is folding? |
| 16:43.21 | fungus | they just announced the deal with warner bros. though. |
| 16:43.45 | mindjuju | well, they aren't folded yet, but the article makes it seem that it's only a matter of time |
| 16:44.00 | mindjuju | i'll have to google on this wb + blockbuster deal, haven't heard |
| 16:44.18 | mindjuju | though truthfully, lately, i haven't been doing much more than work, school and family time |
| 16:44.35 | fungus | yeah, BB will release WB movies before any other place can get them. Eg. redbox, netflix, etc |
| 16:45.03 | DexterTheDragon | because WB wants to increase piracy |
| 16:45.58 | mindjuju | interesting |
| 16:46.19 | mindjuju | though unless BB goes Netflicks, i cant imagine this working |
| 16:46.27 | mindjuju | not for long, or sparatic |
| 16:47.02 | fungus | BB has "gone netflix" for a long time already. |
| 16:47.11 | fungus | They do their own dvd by mail thing. |
| 16:47.26 | macnewbold | which they mix with an "all you can eat" in-store pickup thing |
| 16:47.43 | macnewbold | but the instant streaming is where it's really at |
| 16:48.41 | fungus | http://www.marketwatch.com/story/blockbuster-inks-deals-restructure-talks-continue-2010-04-07 |
| 16:48.45 | mindjuju | curious |
| 16:49.02 | mindjuju | listen to what BB CEO says |
| 16:49.03 | mindjuju | âThis new agreement reflects our strategy to be the only multi-channel provider for movies. We are excited to offer our customers the best home entertainment from Warner Bros., such as The Blind Side and Sherlock Holmes, with significantly greater availability in BLOCKBUSTER® Stores and through BLOCKBUSTER By Mail, as well as digitally through BLOCKBUSTER On Demand®,â said James W. Keyes, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Blockbuster Inc. |
| 16:49.16 | jtsnow | http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Industry_Trends/Redbox/RedBox_Surveys_Customers_on_Monthly_Streaming_Service/4495 |
| 16:49.40 | fungus | Now BB has deals with Fox and Sony too |
| 17:54.59 | mindjuju | so mgeary, macnewbold, got a quick question for you |
| 17:55.41 | mindjuju | i have a client A that has a product and i'm managing their site, etc. Now, client B, who is also a client of mine, is going to be doing a DIRECTLY competing product |
| 17:56.14 | mindjuju | is this a conflict of interest on my part? I don't think so, but i'm wondering |
| 17:56.29 | mgeary | what exactly will you be doing for both clients? |
| 17:56.56 | mgeary | if you're actually building their products, i'd say that's a bit of a pickle. If you're providing services that don't really relate directly to the products, maybe it's less of a deal |
| 17:57.01 | mindjuju | maintaining their website, i write code, manage db, etc |
| 17:57.06 | mindjuju | i don't do marketing for either |
| 17:57.21 | mgeary | are their products internet apps? or tangible products? |
| 17:57.54 | mindjuju | some of their products are in online videos, some of their products are tangible |
| 17:57.58 | mgeary | for example, if you sell pencils, i don't think it's a problem to sell pencils to both McDonalds and Burger King |
| 17:58.53 | mindjuju | it'd be more like i'm the guy running the McD and Burger king websites |
| 17:59.37 | mgeary | that's fuzzy, imo. I'd probably tell both clients and make sure they were okay with it. Any difficulty up front would be much less painful than difficulties down the road if they find out later |
| 18:00.33 | mgeary | but i'd tell client B first, and only tell client A if client B wanted to continue |
| 18:00.43 | mindjuju | gotcha |
| 18:01.09 | mgeary | and when you tell client A, i'd emphasize that you have a longstanding relationship with client B that pre-dates them deciding to enter the same market |
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| 18:01.28 | mgeary | but that's all just my opinion |
| 18:01.37 | mgeary | i don't think i've faced that particular situation before |
| 18:01.39 | mindjuju | sounds like good advice though |
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| 18:36.43 | romanovic | How dare they - LOTR out on blu ray, but only the *theatrical* version? |
| 18:37.33 | mindjuju | its so they can sell the EE versions for Christmas |
| 18:39.37 | romanovic | i have the extended editions on DVD, and i do enjoy them. I don't buy many blu-rays, but for epic movies it is well worth the increased price to me |
| 18:40.53 | romanovic | I am criticised by several friends for spending money on blu rays (my collection is only about 8-10 movies). Unsurprisingly, they don't have hdtv's or blu ray movies themselves, and don't know what they are missing imo. |
| 18:41.48 | mindjuju | well, let me step back and clarify, i'm not really critquing you on your purchases, i should say, in my house I like on DVD enough |
| 18:41.54 | mindjuju | don't mean to be insulting |
| 18:42.04 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:42.34 | fungus | mindjuju, I agreed with you too, until I saw bluray movies. |
| 18:42.43 | mindjuju | i think if i was starting out new, i'd prolly standardize on blueray, but herenow, etc |
| 18:43.13 | mindjuju | i saw a blueray at beandogs, we saw Wally |
| 18:43.20 | mindjuju | well, not all of it, but some of it |
| 18:43.26 | mindjuju | it was nice |
| 18:45.25 | mindjuju | don't think it's as big of a jump as BW to Color or VHS to DVD |
| 18:45.37 | mgeary | i'm unconvinced. i saw portions of Harry Potter in HD at RC Willey and it looked like it was filmed with a video camera. I didn't like it |
| 18:45.56 | romanovic | mindjuju, you weren't insulting, i completely understand! I am very satisfied with my DVD collection and have no desire to replace them with blu rays. |
| 18:46.40 | romanovic | I only buy blu-rays for movies where I want the absolute maximum picture quality humanly possible |
| 18:47.02 | mindjuju | i wonder if they are going to do star wars in blueray |
| 18:47.04 | romanovic | which is why I have less than 10 blu rays. Mostly adventure type films |
| 18:51.59 | DexterTheDragon | mgeary: rc willey's tv setup kinda kills that |
| 18:52.19 | DexterTheDragon | they push one video source through multiple spliters to get it to all those televisions |
| 18:53.00 | romanovic | yeah tv's at the store usually look terrible... |
| 18:56.06 | mgeary | well, they're not doing themselves any favors towards selling tvs.... |
| 18:59.44 | romanovic | Stores need a dark/dim room with nice couches and awesome hdtv setup(s), like at the Buy More on Chuck. |
| 19:00.15 | romanovic | The wall of hdtvs in the home entertainment section doesn't quite give the same effect... |
| 19:01.01 | mgeary | stderr: ping |
| 19:06.14 | thebigdog | mgeary: ping |
| 19:06.21 | mgeary | thebigdog: pong |
| 19:06.33 | thebigdog | mgeary: ping |
| 19:06.42 | thebigdog | mgeary: kk kk |
| 19:07.14 | thebigdog | mgeary: ^5 |
| 19:07.24 | stderr | mgeary: sup |
| 19:07.35 | mgeary | stderr: you use south + django, don't you? |
| 19:07.58 | stderr | not much anymore |
| 19:08.03 | stderr | but yea I've used them |
| 19:08.24 | mgeary | stderr: what do you use/prefer for db migrations in django? |
| 19:08.39 | thebigdog | finger + django |
| 19:08.48 | mgeary | south seems like it's capable and robust, but not necessarily much less work than making the db changes manually |
| 19:08.54 | mgeary | ~finger thebigdog |
| 19:08.55 | ibot | ACTION raises his middle finger to thebigdog |
| 19:08.59 | mgeary | hah |
| 19:09.00 | thebigdog | ouch |
| 19:09.05 | thebigdog | ~flip mgeary |
| 19:09.06 | ibot | ACTION gives mgeary the .|.. ..|. |
| 19:09.06 | stderr | mgeary: I prefer South |
| 19:09.08 | mgeary | ~rude ibot |
| 19:09.27 | stderr | it's not really about the work of changing the database, it's about keeping a history of the changes you've made. |
| 19:09.55 | mgeary | well |
| 19:10.22 | mgeary | once an app has reached some degree of stability, i can understand that, but in the early stages of an app, when the DB might change frequently, it seems more of a hassle |
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| 19:11.05 | stderr | sure, that's why my initial migration is usually a fair amount of tables and data structure |
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| 20:08.06 | mindjuju | hmm, HP Slate v Ipad? i wonder which one is more likely to run ubuntu? - http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010/04/hp-slate-details-leaked-550-keyboard-less-netbook/ |
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| 20:27.28 | Utah_Dave | Played around with the ubuntu cloud server stuff today. Pretty cool stuff |
| 20:27.58 | Utah_Dave | somehow I've lost the network route to my virtual server I created. Hmm. |
| 21:32.52 | mindjuju | ~seen fungus |
| 21:32.56 | ibot | fungus <~olsonl@bromine.sosstaffing.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 2h 50m 22s ago, saying: 'mindjuju, I agreed with you too, until I saw bluray movies. '. |
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| 21:33.37 | mindjuju | fungus |
| 21:33.42 | mindjuju | did you get your iPad? |
| 21:33.48 | fungus | of course. got it saturday |
| 21:33.56 | mindjuju | ...and... ? |
| 21:34.02 | fungus | love it |
| 21:34.07 | mindjuju | is it the pinnacle of enlightment.? |
| 21:34.14 | fungus | totally |
| 21:34.14 | mindjuju | yeah? Cole is telling me i should get one |
| 21:34.34 | mgeary | ~doubt fungus |
| 21:34.35 | ibot | ACTION looks suspiciously at fungus |
| 21:34.36 | fungus | it won't run ubuntu though. at least not without some serious uber hacking |
| 21:34.56 | mindjuju | does ubuntu even do the multitouch screen stuff? |
| 21:35.02 | fungus | but as a standalone appliance it's awesome. |
| 21:35.21 | mindjuju | you'd have to usb a keyboard onto it |
| 21:35.21 | mindjuju | :( |
| 21:35.50 | fungus | There is much worse you'd have to deal with than that. namely processor architecture, etc. |
| 21:36.20 | fungus | But using it with the existing software is quite wonderful. |
| 21:36.38 | mindjuju | i'd like to get something that isn't my laptop that i could just whip out and instantly be on to see email, etc |
| 21:36.44 | mindjuju | but i don't want to pay data plan |
| 21:36.51 | mindjuju | so its got to have wifi |
| 21:37.09 | mindjuju | plus, i can't get this image out of my mind |
| 21:37.10 | mindjuju | http://cr4.globalspec.com/PostImages/201002/apple_ipad_duct_tape_900412A0-CE15-E44C-79EFA36D76CB54EA.jpg |
| 21:37.29 | romanovic | haha |
| 21:37.39 | mindjuju | i know, huh? |
| 21:37.40 | fungus | it's totally true. It is a larger ipod touch. |
| 21:37.51 | fungus | but that's what's wonderful about it. |
| 21:38.04 | mindjuju | i was wondering if i should get an ipod touch |
| 21:38.10 | mindjuju | and then do line 2 to get phone calls on it |
| 21:38.17 | fungus | do you already have an ipod? |
| 21:38.23 | mindjuju | but then, i'll be saddled with steve jobs picking what apps are cool for me to use |
| 21:38.32 | mindjuju | me? no |
| 21:38.36 | fungus | get one! |
| 21:38.41 | mindjuju | i bought tiffany a nano |
| 21:38.52 | mindjuju | i don't know where that fits into the scheme of things, but she's happy |
| 21:39.12 | fungus | Since you already need a portable music player, you need an ipod. |
| 21:39.30 | fungus | a touch will give you the wifi, email, etc. but still be ultra portable for other things. |
| 21:39.40 | fungus | the ipad is not ultra portable. |
| 21:40.48 | mindjuju | hmm |
| 21:41.15 | mindjuju | checkCoolEnough(MJ, ipodtouch) prolly returns False |
| 21:41.25 | mindjuju | i wear socks with sandals when its cold |
| 21:41.27 | optikal | Cant you jailbreak a Touch? |
| 21:41.40 | mindjuju | i wear rolled jeans and tshirts |
| 21:41.43 | optikal | P. sure it's same as the iPhone... and in that case, no one is controlling your apps~ |
| 21:41.47 | fungus | yeah, it's jail breakable |
| 21:42.16 | mindjuju | i thought jobs did somthing though were if jailbroken, it was brick some kind of new upgrade that checked for jailbreak |
| 21:42.22 | fungus | but mindjuju doesn't seem the "i void warranties" type. |
| 21:42.39 | mindjuju | psh |
| 21:42.49 | mindjuju | i've got 3 xbmc in my house! |
| 21:42.52 | mindjuju | Yippe! |
| 21:43.12 | mindjuju | XBMC FTW |
| 21:43.20 | fungus | yeah, but did you void any warranties to get them? |
| 21:43.32 | mindjuju | sure, removing xbox OS and putting linux |
| 21:43.40 | mindjuju | cracking open the case and putting in an new HD |
| 21:43.45 | mindjuju | (which took for ever by the way) |
| 21:43.52 | fungus | was it still under warranty? |
| 21:44.08 | mindjuju | oooohhh, one was, the other 2 were off ebay prolly past warranty |
| 21:44.24 | fungus | ah, so you are a warranty breaker. congrats. |
| 21:44.39 | mindjuju | well, just on that one thing |
| 21:44.57 | mindjuju | i do want to upgrade my wifi router but can't seem to find the time |
| 21:45.07 | fungus | breaking warranties on expensive things is scary for me. |
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| 22:15.25 | romanovic | haha! |
| 22:17.30 | thebigdog | that is pretty funny |
| 22:24.44 | mindjuju_ | wow, free call of duty : modern warfare 2 |
| 22:24.52 | romanovic | ? |
| 22:25.18 | _psychic_ | mindjuju_: I'm excited - lots of n00bs to shoot :) |
| 22:25.29 | mindjuju_ | romanovic - http://store.steampowered.com/ |
| 22:25.34 | mindjuju_ | it's a free weekend |
| 22:25.38 | mindjuju_ | i've never played |
| 22:25.56 | mindjuju_ | maybe it's time for stderr and I to have that halo fight but on mw2 |
| 22:26.02 | mindjuju_ | :) |
| 22:26.28 | romanovic | wow |
| 22:26.33 | SunSparc | mindjuju_: are you playing mw2 these days? |
| 22:26.41 | mindjuju_ | nope, just TF2 |
| 22:27.00 | mindjuju_ | i haven't really bought a game since tf2 |
| 22:27.08 | mindjuju_ | and that was like 2 yrs ago |
| 22:27.16 | SunSparc | Understandable, it is a really fun game. |
| 22:27.30 | mindjuju_ | well, has more to do with school than fun |
| 22:27.40 | mindjuju_ | i can only afford 1 game in my life whilst go to school |
| 22:27.54 | mindjuju_ | (though i do play plants v zombies with my son) but that doesn't count |
| 22:32.05 | SunSparc | mindjuju_: Yeah, then you probably better not try out the free MW2 weekend. Cause you will be hooked. |
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| 23:40.01 | itimber | later guys |
