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| 01:08.30 | mindjuju | DtD, you around? |
| 01:08.52 | mindjuju | or any linux gurus around? |
| 01:09.17 | DexterTheDragon | sup mindjuju |
| 01:09.37 | mindjuju | hey, as if things weren't crazy enough round here, I've decided to up the notch one |
| 01:10.03 | mindjuju | I want to transfer EVERYTHING (install, apps, everything everything) from one computer to another |
| 01:10.05 | mindjuju | in ubuntu |
| 01:10.08 | mindjuju | i found this tut |
| 01:10.10 | mindjuju | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 |
| 01:10.15 | mindjuju | wondered if this was a good idea |
| 01:12.21 | DexterTheDragon | you could |
| 01:12.33 | DexterTheDragon | are both computers running? |
| 01:12.59 | mindjuju | well, one is a computer with nothing on it, another is a computer that has a LAMP stack, everything |
| 01:13.07 | mindjuju | i want to transfer everything over to the new box |
| 01:13.12 | DexterTheDragon | right |
| 01:13.14 | mindjuju | settings, install, websites, etc |
| 01:13.24 | DexterTheDragon | you could stick a live cd in the new one then rsync / |
| 01:13.48 | DexterTheDragon | save having to tar everything, move it, then untar it |
| 01:13.58 | mindjuju | yeah! |
| 01:15.15 | mindjuju | so question though, is this going to: |
| 01:16.03 | mindjuju | 1. non-existant foob GRUB || 2. semi-foob GRUB || 3. Massively Grand Fooberificly Foob GRUB |
| 01:16.29 | DexterTheDragon | you'll have to install grub on the new machine |
| 01:17.06 | mindjuju | is that as easy as sudo aptitude install grub? |
| 01:18.06 | DexterTheDragon | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=117829&postcount=2 |
| 01:18.58 | mindjuju | oh cool! |
| 01:21.03 | mindjuju | and if i remember right, stderr once said like a week ago on a conversation not related to this that rsync uses openssh |
| 01:21.04 | mindjuju | right? |
| 01:21.14 | mindjuju | or that it could? |
| 01:23.22 | DexterTheDragon | right |
| 01:37.55 | mindjuju | ah, YIPES! |
| 01:38.16 | mindjuju | DtD, you still around? |
| 01:38.34 | mindjuju | mp_ , you around? |
| 01:39.15 | DexterTheDragon | ~dtdhit mindjuju |
| 01:39.16 | ibot | ACTION stikes at mindjuju with the fire of the cat seizure causing a very bad flesh wound! |
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| 01:55.32 | herlo | mindjuju: stop distracting DexterTheDragon |
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| 03:54.30 | yodie | Does anyone know a way to paginate results from an HABTM association in cakePHP? |
| 04:12.01 | Benjam | are you trying to paginate the associated model, or the model you are running the find on? |
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| 04:21.04 | carmony | darn you Heartsbane and your google reader :P |
| 04:21.07 | carmony | http://failblog.org/2008/11/04/pdt-fail/ |
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| 12:57.58 | cycokilr | my vote is for dd |
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| 14:36.43 | ninnypants | morning all |
| 14:47.03 | Utah_Dave | morning |
| 14:48.46 | SunSparc | Yes, it is. |
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| 14:55.19 | utahcon | Need some regex help: need a regex to capture anything but symbols (or to ignore symbols) |
| 14:55.31 | utahcon | symbols = !Alpha !Numeric |
| 14:56.32 | fungus | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.39 | utahcon | fungus: thanks! |
| 14:59.45 | utahcon | herlo: Figured out why TAB+ENTER is the "Send" shortcut in Gmail. The send button is the first tabindex on the create page :P |
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| 15:02.28 | herlo | lol |
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| 15:14.54 | carmony | utahcon: did you get that svn access I sent you :P |
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| 15:31.45 | utahcon | carmony: Yes, haven't tested it yet. |
| 15:59.57 | itimber | morning guys |
| 16:00.07 | mindjuju | yo |
| 16:05.23 | mgeary | hey, how can i get a list of files/directories from a tgz file without decompressing it? Also, how can i extract just one file or directory from it? |
| 16:05.41 | DexterTheDragon | tar ft file |
| 16:07.38 | herlo | zcat works well too |
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| 16:08.38 | fungus | list files: tar -tf file.tgz |
| 16:08.39 | fungus | oops: tar -ztf file.tgz |
| 16:08.52 | fungus | extract: tar -zxf file.tgz filename |
| 16:11.32 | cycokilr | you have to have the full name of the file (including path info) |
| 16:17.31 | mgeary | bueno. thanks |
| 16:17.33 | mgeary | that was easy |
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| 16:31.25 | mindjuju | looks like they may have caught some of the guys doing the credit card skimming - http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700019099/Skimming-devices-found-on-Richfield-gas-pumps-2-arrested.html?s_cid=rss-30 |
| 16:45.19 | ninnypants | coke in the prosthetic leg classy |
| 16:57.38 | mindjuju | yeah, i saw that, that's awesome |
| 16:57.58 | mgeary | "no one will think to look in *here*..." |
| 17:02.02 | mindjuju | DtD - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1260049/Exploding-comet.html?ITO=1490 |
| 17:11.20 | herlo | http://www.yahooanswerfail.com/prego-baby-fail/ <-- haha infiniteloop :) |
| 17:17.03 | mindjuju | herlo, that's awesome |
| 17:17.41 | mindjuju | I like where / by whom I got married, but if it hadn't worked out that way, I too, would want to be married by Admiral Ackbar - http://media.fabulously40.com/images/walmartweddings/image-15.jpg |
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| 17:28.00 | carmony | herlo: omg wow |
| 17:31.50 | herlo | carmony: :) |
| 17:33.32 | carmony | herlo: darn you! Now I'm looking at that site... |
| 17:34.31 | herlo | lol |
| 17:34.47 | herlo | someone pointed out today that it's recurson though, not an infinite loop |
| 17:34.58 | herlo | s/recurson/recursion/ |
| 17:35.27 | carmony | http://www.yahooanswerfail.com/yardwork-fail/ |
| 17:37.24 | herlo | lol |
| 17:38.35 | carmony | http://www.yahooanswerfail.com/powerful-fail/ ok... I need to sto |
| 17:38.36 | carmony | stop |
| 17:39.17 | herlo | yes, you do. Get your work done, so you can come to the UTOS Core Team meeting tonight |
| 17:39.23 | herlo | carmony: you are the star of the show tonight :) |
| 17:39.31 | carmony | yup |
| 17:40.08 | herlo | @ BGM, same place as UPHPU :) |
| 17:43.54 | ninnypants | oh silverlight |
| 17:44.18 | ninnypants | forgot utahcodecamp.com was built only in it |
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| 19:01.35 | ninnypants | hey guys my server is trying to make me download .html files instead of just serving them and idea why that is? |
| 19:02.22 | mindjuju | what type of server is it? |
| 19:02.37 | mindjuju | IIS, Apache, etc |
| 19:02.38 | ninnypants | apache debian |
| 19:03.16 | romanovic | sounds like a client issue |
| 19:03.23 | romanovic | or does it behave the same way on other clients too? |
| 19:04.26 | mindjuju | or something in the conf file |
| 19:05.06 | mindjuju | but i'm still learning apache |
| 19:05.11 | ninnypants | yeah it tries to download in all browsers and a guy I'm working with suggestes a MIME issue |
| 19:05.28 | mindjuju | DtD or fungus could prolly answer this quickly |
| 19:05.33 | romanovic | ah. yeah that would be my guess |
| 19:05.50 | mindjuju | quick question though, have you been doing stuff with htaccess? |
| 19:05.51 | DexterTheDragon | are the html or php files? |
| 19:06.05 | ninnypants | mindjuju: nope |
| 19:06.11 | ninnypants | DtD: htm |
| 19:06.19 | ninnypants | *html |
| 19:06.32 | ninnypants | though they are using SSI |
| 19:07.58 | DexterTheDragon | check the headers that its sending back |
| 19:08.16 | ninnypants | how? |
| 19:09.26 | DexterTheDragon | curl -D headers.txt http://google.com |
| 19:09.28 | DexterTheDragon | cat headers.txt |
| 19:16.00 | cycokilr | mmm.. skipfish.. |
| 19:16.44 | ninnypants | had to install curl could I get it from a php curl on another server? |
| 19:18.15 | cycokilr | SSI or SSL? |
| 19:18.25 | ninnypants | SSI |
| 19:18.32 | cycokilr | server side includes? |
| 19:18.37 | ninnypants | yes |
| 19:18.39 | cycokilr | what do you need curl for then? |
| 19:18.58 | cycokilr | wouldn't wget work? |
| 19:19.14 | cycokilr | or telnet? |
| 19:19.18 | cycokilr | or tcpdump? |
| 19:19.28 | ninnypants | dunno |
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| 19:20.28 | cycokilr | wait, IIS & Apache? |
| 19:23.27 | ninnypants | DexterTheDragon: ran what you said and just got content no headers |
| 19:24.39 | cycokilr | put a -i in it too |
| 19:24.46 | cycokilr | (tells it to include the headers) |
| 19:26.53 | stderr | -D does too |
| 19:27.07 | cycokilr | well he said it didn't.. |
| 19:27.10 | cycokilr | just sayin' |
| 19:27.34 | DexterTheDragon | -D saves the headers to a file |
| 19:28.02 | stderr | yea, and -i dumps it to stdout with the rest of the response's body |
| 19:28.03 | cycokilr | but reallly you could just do a curl -i example.com unless you need to save them to a file for some reason |
| 19:28.42 | stderr | if you wanted to look through the response for headers |
| 19:28.54 | stderr | which is why they created -D because many people want to isolate the headers |
| 19:29.05 | cycokilr | fancy |
| 19:30.20 | ninnypants | neither displayed or saved the headers |
| 19:30.35 | cycokilr | guess you're back to tcpdump |
| 19:31.18 | ninnypants | nm I had a missed keystroke |
| 19:32.17 | ninnypants | http://ninnypants.pastebin.com/ZdEcUGtH |
| 19:32.26 | ninnypants | that's what I get |
| 19:33.57 | cycokilr | http://forums.htmlhelp.com/lofiversion/index.php/t8171.html |
| 19:35.14 | DexterTheDragon | a content type of text/x-server-parsed-html is supposed to get parsed by mod_include then sent as text/html |
| 19:35.48 | cycokilr | but you have to have a Type AND Handler or they won't work.. |
| 19:35.52 | cycokilr | AddType text/html .shtml |
| 19:35.52 | cycokilr | AddHandler server-parsed .shtml |
| 19:36.30 | cycokilr | plus Includes for the dir in the apache config.. |
| 19:38.12 | fungus | ninnypants, wow that server of yours is quite busy. mod_php, mod_python, mod_perl, AND DAV/SVN. wow. |
| 19:39.05 | ninnypants | yeah not sure why we have all that we don't use it. |
| 19:39.09 | DexterTheDragon | missing mod_ruby |
| 19:39.11 | ninnypants | not sure who set it up |
| 19:40.48 | ninnypants | I can add types and handles in htaccess right? |
| 19:41.02 | fungus | yes |
| 19:41.14 | fungus | unless it's restricted. |
| 19:42.08 | cycokilr | yeah you can add the Options Includes in the .htaccess if you need it too.. |
| 19:44.46 | ninnypants | ok I added http://ninnypants.pastebin.com/Q2Y1874i to my htaccess and still no change |
| 19:45.03 | ninnypants | also tried AddHandler server-parsed .shtml |
| 19:45.57 | cycokilr | well the addhandler should have .html in it |
| 19:46.02 | cycokilr | if that's your file names |
| 19:49.34 | ninnypants | yeah I changed that I just C&P'd from above |
| 19:49.56 | ninnypants | still no change |
| 19:51.56 | fungus | ninnypants, any errors in the log? |
| 19:54.19 | ninnypants | nope |
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| 20:07.59 | ninnypants | so I've got the mime type to be text/html but it still offers it for download |
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| 20:10.51 | Utah_Dave | ninnypants: clear the cookies and history from your browser and try it again |
| 20:11.02 | Utah_Dave | sometimes it will cache that info and still use the old info |
| 20:16.02 | ninnypants | no change |
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| 21:00.14 | mgeary | hey fungus, you do postfix, yes? |
| 21:00.22 | fungus | yes |
| 21:01.04 | mgeary | so i have an old mail server that i want to tell NOT to recognize "foo.com" as a destination for which it should receive email |
| 21:01.16 | mgeary | i removed it from mydestinations, but it's still trying to take the email |
| 21:01.29 | mgeary | any ideas? |
| 21:02.47 | fungus | mydestination is the complete list of local domains. It won't consider it local if it's not in there. |
| 21:03.23 | fungus | Is it delivering locally? or was it a virtual domain? that is handled elsewhere |
| 21:06.57 | mgeary | it's delivering locally |
| 21:07.25 | mgeary | however, i think i'm able to just shut that machine down and change the few people's email client that are using that machine |
| 21:13.49 | mindjuju | sometimes the easiest solution is the best :) |
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| 21:46.36 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 21:46.37 | ibot | slams Utah_Dave against a large cement Tux |
| 21:50.16 | herlo | ouch! |
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| 22:23.36 | PoeticIntensity | man.... It's been too long.. |
| 22:23.51 | mindjuju | yeah it has |
| 22:24.07 | mindjuju | i have a question queued up for ya that i've been waiting to ask ya for a while |
| 22:24.11 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:29.06 | PoeticIntensity | oh! Well.... |
| 22:29.08 | PoeticIntensity | Let's have it! |
| 22:29.09 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 22:29.54 | mindjuju | it has to do with a condensor, if i have multiple mics, a condensor keeps them all at the same volume, yes? |
| 22:33.04 | PoeticIntensity | nope. |
| 22:33.05 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 22:33.09 | PoeticIntensity | hehe.... a compressor does. :) |
| 22:33.31 | PoeticIntensity | compression is an audio tactic which proves itself quite valuable, generally speaking... |
| 22:33.39 | PoeticIntensity | It "takes off the peaks" in a very general sense. |
| 22:33.43 | mindjuju | yeah? |
| 22:33.53 | PoeticIntensity | a "condenser" is a type of microphone. |
| 22:33.55 | mindjuju | i read the wiki, but didn't quite get the finer points |
| 22:34.31 | mindjuju | oh, i thought there was something you could plug your mics into that wasn't a preamp, that would level everything out |
| 22:34.54 | PoeticIntensity | yup. There are hardware-based compressors... |
| 22:34.59 | mindjuju | and that like if a person talked really closely to a mic, it would lower |
| 22:35.06 | mindjuju | and if they were away, then it would raise |
| 22:35.11 | mindjuju | yeah, a compressor! |
| 22:35.14 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:35.16 | PoeticIntensity | you can plug in your mic straight to that, and then plug the compressor OUT into the recording device / computer. |
| 22:35.29 | PoeticIntensity | yup... that is generally what a compressor does. |
| 22:35.33 | mindjuju | so a compressor is like a preamp them? |
| 22:35.35 | PoeticIntensity | no. |
| 22:35.42 | PoeticIntensity | a pre-amp provides amplification. |
| 22:35.51 | mindjuju | k, so it would go |
| 22:35.54 | PoeticIntensity | a compressor does something entirely different. |
| 22:36.06 | PoeticIntensity | it would go mic -> preamp -> compressor -> computer interface. |
| 22:36.10 | mindjuju | mic -> preamp -> compressor --> recording device? |
| 22:36.15 | PoeticIntensity | you got it. |
| 22:36.18 | mindjuju | ah good :) |
| 22:36.56 | PoeticIntensity | however.... You can use a free plugin to do the same thing, without having to have a hardware-based compressor. |
| 22:37.02 | PoeticIntensity | it'd save ya some bucks. |
| 22:37.29 | mindjuju | is that in that one thing on linux you were telling me about? |
| 22:37.36 | mindjuju | that's a dsp plugin, right? |
| 22:38.44 | fungus | no, just a plugin for your audio editor |
| 22:38.51 | fungus | Audacity's got one. |
| 22:39.26 | PoeticIntensity | The one I use is called a "LADSPA" plugin... |
| 22:39.29 | mindjuju | k |
| 22:39.30 | PoeticIntensity | It's named "SC4" |
| 22:39.38 | PoeticIntensity | and it's fabulous. |
| 22:39.39 | PoeticIntensity | and free. |
| 22:39.59 | PoeticIntensity | and yes, it's technically a "DSP" plugin. |
| 22:40.06 | PoeticIntensity | The format is LADSPA |
| 22:40.17 | PoeticIntensity | and the name for the actual plugin I use is SC4.... It's made by..... |
| 22:40.20 | PoeticIntensity | lemme see here... |
| 22:40.46 | PoeticIntensity | It's made by Steve Harris and can be found in the SWH plugin pack. |
| 22:41.04 | mindjuju | awesome, thx for the info |
| 22:41.05 | mindjuju | ! |
| 22:41.13 | mindjuju | ~poeticintensity++ |
| 22:41.14 | PoeticIntensity | audacity can use LADSPA plugins just fine. |
| 22:41.15 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 22:41.15 | PoeticIntensity | hehe.. |
| 22:41.16 | PoeticIntensity | thanks |
| 22:41.39 | PoeticIntensity | If you want to mult-track a bit more stably, I'd look into "ardour" (www.ardour.org) |
| 22:42.03 | PoeticIntensity | If you've still got your delta1010LT, it works flawlessly with Linux / ardour |
| 22:42.22 | mindjuju | i've been saving that baby |
| 22:42.25 | mindjuju | yup, still have |
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| 22:45.48 | PoeticIntensity | The 1010LT can serve as a pass-through, too.... |
| 22:46.20 | PoeticIntensity | So you could process it (get it sounding great), record it, and then pass it through to your streaming device. |
| 22:46.41 | mindjuju | oh that would be absolutely awesome |
| 22:46.49 | PoeticIntensity | ardour, baby. |
| 22:47.02 | PoeticIntensity | Competing with the likes of Protools and Sonar.... |
| 22:47.05 | PoeticIntensity | It's amazing. |
| 22:48.13 | mindjuju | i'm starting to do some big stuff for BGM, I think we are going to need some bigger guns |
| 22:48.54 | PoeticIntensity | Unless you need more than 8 simultaneous tracks.... The 1010LT can probably handle it.. |
| 22:49.11 | PoeticIntensity | What's some of the "big stuff", if ya don't mind my asking. |
| 22:49.13 | PoeticIntensity | ? |
| 22:49.41 | PoeticIntensity | For my studio, I'm using Linux / ardour to handle 30+ tracks and buses right now. |
| 22:50.00 | PoeticIntensity | ...and it doesn't even come close to a hiccup. |
| 22:50.05 | mindjuju | like 2 wks ago we did a full internet broadcast of a conference we held here |
| 22:50.13 | PoeticIntensity | how many mics? |
| 22:50.14 | mindjuju | 8hrs/day *5 days |
| 22:50.17 | PoeticIntensity | ah... |
| 22:50.24 | mindjuju | 2 wireless lavilers |
| 22:50.35 | PoeticIntensity | well, it can handle the streams 24 hours a day for months, I'm sure. |
| 22:50.43 | PoeticIntensity | 2 streams? child's play. ;-) |
| 22:50.48 | mindjuju | i didn't use the boundry mics because I always seem to get bad stuff from the boundries |
| 22:51.11 | mindjuju | idle chat, somebody farts, it all gets captured |
| 22:51.14 | PoeticIntensity | lavalier's usually do a great job. |
| 22:51.21 | PoeticIntensity | at *not* capturing the farts. :) |
| 22:51.32 | PoeticIntensity | and this is for streaming AND recording? |
| 22:51.36 | mindjuju | yup, i meant the boundry mics are in the audience |
| 22:51.40 | PoeticIntensity | I see. |
| 22:51.42 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 22:51.49 | PoeticIntensity | I'd use omnis for audience recording. |
| 22:51.50 | mindjuju | stream / record |
| 22:52.20 | mindjuju | omnis like on a stand pointed towards the crowd? |
| 22:52.22 | PoeticIntensity | then, if someone does something objectionable, you can easily mute it (after-the-fact)... |
| 22:52.29 | mindjuju | ah true |
| 22:52.30 | PoeticIntensity | nope... usually hanging above the crowd. |
| 22:52.47 | PoeticIntensity | they capture 360 degrees. |
| 22:52.59 | PoeticIntensity | two hanging down - right and left. |
| 22:54.48 | mindjuju | i've got one like this |
| 22:54.49 | mindjuju | http://www.zzounds.com/item--RODNT55 |
| 22:55.01 | mindjuju | didn't know how to use it though, so now i know how to deploy |
| 22:55.09 | mindjuju | i'll have to play with it to see how it goes |
| 22:55.47 | PoeticIntensity | Yup... Rodes are usually good mics. |
| 22:56.17 | mindjuju | how is your studio coming? sounds like way good stuff from what i read on FB |
| 22:56.29 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... The omni records from every angle at the same volume. |
| 22:56.35 | PoeticIntensity | great for recording crowds. |
| 22:56.40 | PoeticIntensity | studio is doing great! |
| 22:56.53 | PoeticIntensity | Did you become a fan of my studio's FB page? |
| 22:56.55 | mindjuju | good enough for vocation change? |
| 22:57.04 | mindjuju | didn't see studio page on FB |
| 22:57.08 | PoeticIntensity | gettin' close. I'd say 2 or 3 more years, and I'll be set to do it full-time. |
| 22:57.09 | mindjuju | i'd join it though |
| 22:57.11 | PoeticIntensity | one sec. |
| 22:57.43 | mindjuju | that would be awesome! |
| 22:57.44 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.facebook.com/pages/Springville-UT/Advanced-Budget-Studios/296538183106 |
| 22:59.01 | PoeticIntensity | Yeah... It'd be a dream-come-true for me. |
| 22:59.18 | PoeticIntensity | I like programming, and can do it well, but my passion has always been in music. |
| 22:59.41 | mindjuju | same like me bro, computers pay the bills but my passion lies elsewhere |
| 22:59.42 | PoeticIntensity | Yay! You joined! |
| 22:59.43 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 23:04.33 | mindjuju | i'll add that endorsement to linkedin too if you want |
| 23:06.00 | PoeticIntensity | Thanks... I haven't set up a Linked-in yet for any audio work... |
| 23:06.20 | PoeticIntensity | I sure could use a testimonial from ya, though... But the problem is - you've never recorded at my studio! :-| |
| 23:06.44 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.advancedbudgetstudios.com/testimonials |
| 23:07.15 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:07.26 | mindjuju | will have to find a project to do with your system and fix that |
| 23:07.27 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:07.52 | PoeticIntensity | We can record anything acoustic, and most things electronic. |
| 23:08.59 | PoeticIntensity | We'd cut you a *serious* deal, too.. \o/ |
| 23:09.18 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:09.45 | mindjuju | BGM is pinching pennies so tight, Im' getting second glances on my consumables POs |
| 23:10.24 | mindjuju | i just shrug and say, you want video, i need batteries, bulbs and tape |
| 23:10.39 | mindjuju | i don't make that stuff up, and then they usually comply |
| 23:11.43 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... That's pretty sound logic there. |
| 23:12.07 | *** part/#uphpu Utah_Dave (~David@72-166-51-162.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 23:12.08 | PoeticIntensity | How does a buck-per-hour sound to ya? :-D |
| 23:12.13 | PoeticIntensity | woo hoo! |
| 23:25.24 | itimber | I'm out... later guys |
| 23:36.30 | *** part/#uphpu mgeary (~mgeary@166.70.44.49) |
