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| 15:04.01 | macnewbold | ~cookie |
| 15:04.08 | macnewbold | whee |
| 15:05.33 | ninnypants | morning |
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| 15:09.41 | itimber | morning guys |
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| 15:28.23 | thebigdog | morning all |
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| 16:42.58 | SunSparc | MEOW! |
| 16:43.03 | SunSparc | ~monday |
| 16:43.03 | ibot | [monday] when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix, or and on a more positive note, Monday is a brand new day at the beginning of a brand new week, a place to start over and improve on last week. :), or the end of the weekend, a.k.a. the weekendend |
| 16:43.17 | SunSparc | ~morning |
| 16:43.18 | ibot | Good morning! |
| 16:43.28 | SunSparc | Thank you ibot. |
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| 16:59.02 | ninnypants | anyone here use SSI |
| 16:59.43 | supernovia | not regularly but I have used them |
| 17:00.02 | ninnypants | how's the performance? |
| 17:00.50 | supernovia | the sites I used them on were so tiny, I can't really say |
| 17:01.25 | mgeary | performance would be better than doing it via php, but using different tools for similar jobs can lead to confusion |
| 17:01.31 | mgeary | ~premature |
| 17:01.31 | ibot | ACTION "Premature Optimization is the root of all evil!" |
| 17:02.30 | ninnypants | mgeary: even if the server already runs php? |
| 17:03.27 | SunSparc | Server Side Include? I have used them. Performance was never a question though. |
| 17:03.32 | SunSparc | ninnypants: Why do you ask? |
| 17:03.54 | mgeary | well, what i'm saying is, even though there probably is a theoretical performance advantage to using Apache's SSI rather than a php include, the increased complexity and additional requirement are, in my opinion, not worth the (possibly immeasurably) small improvement you'd get. Especially when your app is probably not choking on CPU time anyways |
| 17:04.10 | mgeary | ~premature |
| 17:04.11 | ibot | ACTION "Premature Optimization is the root of all evil!" |
| 17:05.42 | ninnypants | just curious. the company I'm working for is using them but I'm not sure why you would install another thing on your server when you've already got the tools to do what you want |
| 17:05.52 | mgeary | right |
| 17:05.59 | ninnypants | so I was curios if it was actually worth it to them |
| 17:06.16 | mgeary | if your server didn't/couldn't support php, it might be a workable solution, but if the rest of your app is in php, i don't believe it's worth it |
| 17:06.32 | mgeary | but that's just me |
| 17:09.24 | ninnypants | I feel the same way. It is just course lecture files so I guess it makes no real difference |
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| 17:51.51 | ninnypants | slow monday |
| 18:05.50 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 18:05.51 | ibot | overclocks thebigdog until thebigdog burns out |
| 18:06.46 | macnewbold | you guys are right about SSI too - php is a much better way |
| 18:07.28 | macnewbold | ssi is a one-trick pony, but php is a trained seal that can morph into an elephant, dog, rat, horse, and various primates |
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| 18:17.38 | ninnypants | macnewbold: I like the analogy |
| 18:18.16 | carmony | lol macnewbold |
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| 20:29.48 | carmony | yeah, its definitely a monday |
| 20:30.43 | mindjuju | it's a monday + a monday following a full week off school + a monday following a 3 day weekend (took Friday off) |
| 20:30.45 | mindjuju | ...sigh... |
| 20:31.29 | carmony | I had to go get some yummy chinese food for lunch just to get myself through today :P |
| 20:31.43 | mindjuju | curious! i did the same :) |
| 20:31.49 | romanovic | i've been away for two weeks, jumping back into code i haven't looked at in 17 days. blech. |
| 20:32.06 | mindjuju | though after nearly a month of being carb concious, i left feeling blah |
| 20:33.40 | carmony | lol |
| 20:34.51 | mindjuju | so the funny thing is, when i went to go eat, i took my <whisper>C# class book</whisper> and the guys the enxt table kept distracting me |
| 20:35.28 | mindjuju | twas 2 salesmen telling a third person about how he stood to make at the least, 100k this year from web sales if they go with the product the salesmen were offering |
| 20:36.06 | mindjuju | and to make matters worse, they even had a phone call on the cell phone saying that another person had just purchased and the server was getting full |
| 20:36.19 | mindjuju | and that if the guy was going to buy, he'd better do it soon |
| 20:41.45 | beandog | huh? |
| 20:42.01 | mindjuju | nothing |
| 20:42.03 | mindjuju | sup |
| 20:42.11 | beandog | My brain hurts. |
| 20:43.05 | herlo | oops |
| 20:43.36 | beandog | Okay, maybe I read this wrong |
| 20:43.54 | mindjuju | if it is what i said, ignore it |
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| 20:44.10 | mindjuju | it's just a funny story tis all |
| 20:44.20 | beandog | but according to prototype's doc, it sounds like Ajax.Request returns a JSON string, not a JSON object (which is a Hash) |
| 20:44.58 | beandog | These docs are kinda ambiguous at times. |
| 20:45.17 | beandog | http://prototypejs.org/learn/json |
| 20:45.21 | beandog | look at those last 2 examples |
| 20:45.35 | beandog | var json is a Hash, not a string. |
| 20:45.38 | beandog | slightly confusing. |
| 20:46.01 | beandog | unless my assumption that JSON would be a string is wrong. |
| 20:46.09 | beandog | which it could be, I have no idea. |
| 20:48.32 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: var json = transport.responseText.evalJSON(); |
| 20:48.35 | DexterTheDragon | that line? |
| 20:48.38 | beandog | yah |
| 20:49.01 | DexterTheDragon | transport.responseText is the json string, var json is the json object |
| 20:49.22 | beandog | oh, it is? |
| 20:49.42 | beandog | buh |
| 20:49.45 | beandog | well I'll be durned. |
| 20:49.46 | beandog | thanks DexterTheDragon |
| 20:49.52 | beandog | now that makes a lot more sense. |
| 20:50.01 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: http://prototypejs.org/api/string/evalJSON |
| 20:50.35 | beandog | Ah, its just calling a string function. |
| 20:50.51 | beandog | Okay |
| 20:50.53 | beandog | I can deal with that. |
| 20:51.05 | beandog | ~DexterTheDragon++ |
| 20:51.51 | mindjuju | ~karma DexterTheDragon |
| 20:51.51 | ibot | dexterthedragon has karma of 10 |
| 20:52.05 | mindjuju | ~DexterTheDragon++ |
| 20:52.17 | DexterTheDragon | double woot |
| 20:52.22 | mindjuju | :) |
| 20:57.14 | beandog | man |
| 20:57.20 | beandog | Im not sure how long it would have taken me to realize that |
| 20:57.22 | beandog | ~cookie DexterTheDragon |
| 20:58.04 | fungus | lol, ibot can't spell |
| 20:59.27 | fungus | well, unless it's referring to "the fence" in Tattoo speak? |
| 21:03.45 | beandog | ~curse dst |
| 21:03.46 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, dst ! |
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| 21:04.21 | influx | Defence is proper, but not American. |
| 21:05.05 | influx | derp |
| 21:05.11 | influx | yeah |
| 21:05.18 | influx | British. |
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| 21:42.00 | carmony | man |
| 21:42.06 | carmony | today has been one of those mondays |
| 21:44.57 | beandog | did you set something else on fire? |
| 21:45.33 | DexterTheDragon | yeah his macbook |
| 21:49.43 | carmony | lol |
| 21:49.57 | carmony | fortunately smoke is not pouring out of my MBP |
| 21:59.04 | carmony | whats a professional DNS service that works well, easy interface, etc? |
| 21:59.16 | mindjuju | opendns? |
| 21:59.26 | beandog | everydns? |
| 21:59.52 | mindjuju | MJ's Happy DNS Service? |
| 22:00.24 | carmony | for some reason, the DNS bind service on this web box we have just hangs for a few hours |
| 22:00.27 | carmony | and then comes back |
| 22:00.40 | carmony | but our website stuff all goes down |
| 22:00.51 | mindjuju | yipes |
| 22:27.29 | beandog | ~noodlewhip |
| 22:39.52 | beandog | ~pooped |
| 22:40.21 | mindjuju | did you make it to the bathroom? (pooped) |
| 22:40.43 | mgeary | ~gross mindjuju |
| 22:41.09 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 23:40.29 | itimber | I'm out... later guys |
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