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| 00:42.34 | thebigdog | killer song |
| 00:52.15 | mindjuju | ~lart thebigdog and his killer song |
| 00:52.15 | ibot | slaps thebigdog and his killer song upside the head with a wet fish |
| 00:54.45 | mindjuju | k, this is nuts |
| 00:55.08 | mindjuju | on on FB, and for a suggestion it has Barack Obama, now that in and of itself isn't bad |
| 00:55.21 | mindjuju | they think Barack is associated with einstein bagels |
| 00:55.27 | mindjuju | i should screen shot this |
| 00:55.51 | mindjuju | maybe he is though, like a major stockholder, and I just don't know it? |
| 00:59.05 | fungus | They are likely associated because there's a lot of people that like both of them. |
| 00:59.15 | fungus | damn hippy liberals! |
| 00:59.56 | mindjuju | makes more sense than my major stockholder theory |
| 01:00.01 | mindjuju | but i can see your point |
| 01:00.23 | mindjuju | i'd think though, on that vein, starbucks and President Obama would have more in common |
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| 01:41.33 | thebigdog | carmony gvim is good...i have run into some cut n past issues with it and it not displaying files properly |
| 01:41.52 | macnewbold | xemacs ftw |
| 01:41.53 | thebigdog | those are the only issues i know of |
| 01:42.09 | thebigdog | horrible |
| 01:42.46 | beandog | thebigdog: mousepad? |
| 01:42.57 | beandog | thebigdog: define lightweight |
| 01:43.24 | thebigdog | what beandog ? |
| 01:43.37 | beandog | Oh |
| 01:43.41 | beandog | sorry, carmony ^^ |
| 01:43.46 | carmony | lol |
| 01:43.56 | carmony | quick to open |
| 01:44.01 | carmony | but has bells and wistles |
| 01:45.22 | carmony | like a notepad++ or notepad2 for Mac |
| 01:45.32 | beandog | carmony: kate |
| 01:45.36 | beandog | its really nice |
| 01:46.33 | beandog | Ah crap |
| 01:46.33 | thebigdog | if you want lightweight then you can use the default one |
| 01:46.37 | beandog | cell phone calendar++ |
| 01:47.09 | beandog | I gotta go to the thingie tonight. |
| 01:47.09 | thebigdog | i have heard TextWrangler is good too |
| 01:47.09 | thebigdog | or bbedit |
| 01:47.17 | beandog | dont let me forget |
| 01:47.22 | thebigdog | but they probably cost $$$ |
| 01:51.26 | thebigdog | beandog you there |
| 01:51.58 | beandog | beandog is always here. |
| 01:52.00 | beandog | but not there. |
| 01:52.02 | beandog | except maybe. |
| 01:52.08 | beandog | thebigdog: whats up |
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| 01:52.52 | thebigdog | you need to go to the thingie tonight...fyi |
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| 01:53.12 | beandog | thanks |
| 01:53.16 | beandog | I seriously forgot already. |
| 01:53.29 | beandog | I think. |
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| 01:57.32 | beandog | argh |
| 01:57.36 | beandog | how the heck am I gonna code around this |
| 01:57.38 | beandog | ~doom |
| 01:57.38 | ibot | ACTION stalks beandog, chanting doom on you, doom on you! |
| 02:00.40 | mindjuju | hey heartsbane, you around? |
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| 02:01.26 | mindjuju | hey you guys, hearts was telling me about a program he was using on the command line that |
| 02:01.31 | mindjuju | man, this is hard to describe |
| 02:01.49 | mindjuju | it was something like it let you run multiple apps, but like you could close the console |
| 02:01.52 | mindjuju | and it'd still be running |
| 02:02.01 | mindjuju | i think he was using it for irssi |
| 02:02.15 | romanovic | screen |
| 02:02.25 | mindjuju | yup, that's it |
| 02:02.35 | romanovic | just type screen and it puts you in like a virtual console |
| 02:03.01 | romanovic | then if you hit CTRL-A, D it detaches and keeps running |
| 02:03.19 | romanovic | you can logout, login later or from somewhere else and reattach it with screen -r |
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| 02:03.30 | mindjuju | that's cool! |
| 02:04.14 | beandog | screen++ |
| 02:04.26 | romanovic | i think CTRL-A + C creates new windows in your current screen session |
| 02:04.30 | beandog | yah |
| 02:04.39 | beandog | ctl-a + space cycles through all of em |
| 02:04.47 | beandog | ctl-a 1 goes to first |
| 02:04.51 | beandog | ctl-a 2 goes to second, etc. |
| 02:05.17 | romanovic | haha |
| 02:05.30 | romanovic | i encountered something strange the last couple months though |
| 02:06.02 | romanovic | i've been running irssi in screen so i could hop back on at work without missing anything, but after 5 or 6 days irssi would get unresponsive and i'd have to restart it |
| 02:07.04 | beandog | thats weird. |
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| 02:22.32 | beandog | ding! tuna's done |
| 02:26.39 | beandog | crap, I gotta go tot he store before it closes. |
| 02:26.40 | beandog | rawr. |
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| 03:12.21 | beandog | ~give swb a decent net connection |
| 03:12.21 | ibot | ACTION gives a decent net connection to swb |
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| 03:20.23 | mindjuju | i'll give her the boot if she keeps doing it, if for nothing more than peace of mind |
| 03:20.39 | mindjuju | she won't mind, i'm sure |
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| 03:35.01 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 03:42.30 | DexterTheDragon | didn't work mindjuju |
| 03:43.10 | beandog | heh |
| 03:43.21 | beandog | plus now she can sue for emotional distress |
| 03:43.32 | romanovic | swb's client has been zombified! its looking for brains |
| 03:43.43 | mindjuju | is there a way to kick or ban for a certain length of time |
| 03:43.47 | mindjuju | i thought kick did that |
| 03:43.56 | beandog | no |
| 03:44.00 | beandog | kick just kicks em out |
| 03:44.02 | beandog | ban keeps em out |
| 03:47.55 | beandog | ~ban |
| 03:47.57 | ibot | it has been said that ban is a way of getting rid of annoying pests, especially trolls |
| 03:48.09 | beandog | ~trogdor |
| 03:48.09 | ibot | methinks trogdor is trogdor, from the 'dragon' email by Strongbad of Homestar Runner fame |
| 03:48.19 | beandog | ~burnination |
| 03:48.28 | beandog | poo. |
| 03:48.44 | DexterTheDragon | ~burninate beandog |
| 03:48.45 | ibot | ACTION burninates beandog and thrashes him soundly with Trogdor's meat arm. |
| 03:48.57 | beandog | \m/ |
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| 03:50.34 | beandog | Okay |
| 03:50.36 | beandog | Im outies. |
| 03:50.39 | beandog | ~nn beandog |
| 03:50.49 | beandog | meh. |
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| 03:56.21 | mindjuju | romanovic |
| 03:56.24 | mindjuju | you still around? |
| 03:56.38 | beandog | mindjuju: so bold! |
| 03:56.58 | mindjuju | how about now8,04 |
| 03:56.59 | mindjuju | better? |
| 03:57.07 | mindjuju | romanovic, you around? |
| 03:57.19 | beandog | ~boldination mindjuju |
| 03:57.36 | mindjuju | influx |
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| 03:57.52 | mindjuju | heh |
| 03:58.00 | carmony | who keeps kicking peeps? :P |
| 03:58.00 | mindjuju | just needed a bigger boot |
| 03:58.13 | mindjuju | well, it's not that we want her out |
| 03:58.20 | carmony | and why is she banned? :P |
| 03:58.21 | mindjuju | it's that her connection drops every 240 seconds |
| 03:58.25 | carmony | ah |
| 03:58.30 | mindjuju | and then adds back every x seconds |
| 03:58.34 | mindjuju | so i gave her the boot |
| 03:58.38 | mindjuju | and sent her an email to explain why |
| 03:58.55 | mindjuju | in the process of giving her the boot, i figured out how to voice again |
| 03:59.12 | mindjuju | so i'm looking at a #uphpu neophytes, and trying to find somebody to test on |
| 04:00.44 | mindjuju | oh well, it's late, i'm going home |
| 04:00.47 | mindjuju | got homework to do |
| 04:01.02 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: http://9gag.com/photo/19142_full.jpg |
| 04:01.30 | carmony | DexterTheDragon: that happens all the time! |
| 04:07.16 | romanovic | mindjuju, here |
| 04:07.42 | romanovic | was just oblivious for a few moments |
| 04:08.21 | romanovic | maybe i'm too late... |
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| 04:21.46 | mgeary | romanovic: ping |
| 04:23.15 | romanovic | mgeary, pong |
| 04:23.32 | mgeary | heya |
| 04:23.35 | mgeary | just sent you an email |
| 04:23.45 | mgeary | files look good. send over what you've got |
| 04:25.16 | romanovic | hmm my mailserver is being weird |
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| 06:15.40 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: lol, love it |
| 06:15.43 | beandog | happens to me |
| 06:19.07 | beandog | Ok |
| 06:19.11 | beandog | must ... go ... to ... bed |
| 06:19.23 | beandog | but tuna casserole is calling my name! must give in! |
| 06:25.54 | herlo | hehe |
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| 16:14.02 | ninnypants | morning all |
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| 16:20.39 | mgeary | ~spring |
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| 17:06.01 | ninnypants | they would become an enemy of the state if they did that |
| 17:06.11 | ninnypants | it being part of OS and all |
| 17:07.06 | utahcon | ninnypants: I am sure something could be worked out... would make reading the amendments SO much easier. |
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| 17:08.04 | mindjuju_ | mastergunns, haven't seen you in a while |
| 17:08.06 | mindjuju_ | what up? |
| 17:08.11 | mgeary | alright, so this switch issue i'm having is killing me. i need to get SOMEthing swapped out today while i'm waiting for a replacement. Anyone have a suggestion for something i can buy locally and stick in there for now? |
| 17:09.06 | utahcon | hey mastergunns:! |
| 17:09.13 | mastergunns | mindjuju: yeah, been heads down on some things. back above water now. |
| 17:09.27 | utahcon | mgeary: how many ports? |
| 17:09.36 | mastergunns | utahcon: hey man, how goes it? |
| 17:09.49 | utahcon | mastergunns: not bad, in fact... pretty good. |
| 17:10.15 | mastergunns | utahcon: nice, glad to hear that. glad to be back among the living :) |
| 17:10.37 | utahcon | :) |
| 17:10.43 | utahcon | we are glad you are back with us too |
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| 17:13.25 | mindjuju_ | is it just me or is this job description ALL over the place? |
| 17:13.25 | mindjuju_ | http://pastebin.com/BvRHsU61 |
| 17:13.47 | mindjuju_ | title is senior user interface dev |
| 17:14.06 | mindjuju_ | they want you to know ethernet, tcp/ip, protocols, routing, internet security? |
| 17:14.11 | mindjuju_ | bach of CS? |
| 17:14.29 | mastergunns | holy crap, do they need 3 people or just one? |
| 17:14.52 | mastergunns | a web ui guy whos also a developer whose also a sys admin? |
| 17:15.00 | mindjuju_ | yup |
| 17:15.10 | mastergunns | I want that guy to work for me |
| 17:15.39 | ninnypants | artistic skills are a plus though :) |
| 17:15.49 | mastergunns | :) |
| 17:16.17 | ninnypants | I mean I don't know anyone who's been working in UI that has art skills |
| 17:16.19 | mindjuju_ | my artistic design amounts to putting pretty ribbons on cinderblocks |
| 17:16.33 | mindjuju_ | but I can do psd --> CSS + xhtml no prob |
| 17:16.37 | utahcon | mindjuju_: pretty common to see those... makes me want to punch anyone who would apply for taking 1 mans pay for a 3 man job |
| 17:16.39 | mindjuju_ | though not as fast as wps |
| 17:16.52 | ninnypants | and some mighty perty cinderblocks they are too |
| 17:17.01 | mindjuju_ | :) |
| 17:17.14 | mindjuju_ | some people are just cut out for art, and that ain't me |
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| 17:32.15 | stderr | http://bighugelabs.com/onblack.php?id=4405130369&size=large&posted=1 |
| 17:32.34 | macnewbold | mindjuju: mastergunns: where is that job posting from? I actually fit a lot of it... :-D |
| 17:32.40 | herlo | stderr: that yours? |
| 17:32.41 | macnewbold | not that I'm looking, |
| 17:32.58 | macnewbold | but if they're open to contractors helping out... |
| 17:33.55 | stderr | herlo: yea |
| 17:34.05 | stderr | blew out the left corner but meh |
| 17:34.17 | macnewbold | I don't do the Flex/ActionScript, or the graphic arts stuff, and I haven't (yet) done a PHP extension, but the rest of it, including the CakePHP, I've got |
| 17:34.17 | stderr | fix that tonight |
| 17:34.58 | macnewbold | mindjuju: mastergunns: did they say how much they're offering for such a position? lemme guess... they think they can get all that for under 50K/year |
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| 17:35.35 | mindjuju | prolly |
| 17:36.03 | mindjuju | or if it is like another posting in provo i saw, it had a long list of requirements, similar to that, and it was for a no-pay intern |
| 17:36.17 | mindjuju | you get work experience, you lucky devil you |
| 17:36.38 | DexterTheDragon | thats illegal |
| 17:37.50 | herlo | stderr: nice |
| 17:38.39 | mindjuju | yeah, prolly, but not NEARLY as bad as those "TOTALLY AWESOME!" opporuntiies, where you sign up with a start-up and you don't get paid, but a portion of the profits |
| 17:39.18 | macnewbold | yeah, a little googling turned up that it has been posted on craigslist recently for SLC, Boise and Reno. |
| 17:39.48 | mindjuju | one guy that contacted me to pass to #uphpu was all, we had a great PHP guy working for us for about 6 weeks, but then left |
| 17:40.02 | mindjuju | it's like, uh, yeah, not getting paid -- that's kind of a bad thing |
| 17:40.31 | macnewbold | i often try to get in touch with places like that, cause they rarely find one full time person that can do all that, but eventually they decide that they'd be okay with hiring a contractor or firm instead of a full-time in house guy that they can't ever find |
| 17:42.33 | mindjuju | the stats are way against those guys. if you don't have the capital to hire a monkey to do your work, you don't have enough capital |
| 17:43.36 | stderr | herlo: thank you |
| 17:50.46 | mindjuju | you know, that one state with the logo "it's hot, but its a dry heat" |
| 17:51.06 | mastergunns | macnewbold: less than that, 45K probably |
| 17:51.36 | macnewbold | they could hire me to do work for them for 45K a year, it just wouldn't be full-time work |
| 17:51.55 | macnewbold | that said, i could probably get done what they want/need in a lot less than full time |
| 17:51.56 | mastergunns | I agree. couple of those makes for a great salary. |
| 17:54.39 | macnewbold | yeah, 3 like that at 10-15 hours a week each would be pretty nice... pay for benefits and everything |
| 17:55.17 | macnewbold | but for them, that's a budget of under 4K/month, $3,750 |
| 17:56.25 | mastergunns | true |
| 17:56.41 | macnewbold | That's 75 hours at $50/hr (~18 hrs/wk), 50 hours at $75/hr (~13 hrs/wk), or ~38 hours at $100/hr (~9.5 hrs/wk) |
| 17:56.46 | macnewbold | pretty reasonable methinks |
| 17:57.11 | macnewbold | plus with a contractor, you can control the cash flow a lot better - start/stop when you want, increase/decrease cost by changing what you ask him to do |
| 17:57.28 | macnewbold | put him on hold for a few months even... try that with a full time employee :) |
| 17:58.09 | macnewbold | i don't get why people so often jump to the conclusion that they're best off hiring someone full time in-house |
| 17:58.36 | thebigdog | so they can do all those changes without thinking twice |
| 17:58.39 | macnewbold | for a 45K/year salary, they might be paying 10-20K/year more for benefits (probably pretty easily that much) if they have health insurance, paid time off, etc. |
| 17:58.48 | herlo | stderr: anytime, I like seeing people with passions |
| 17:58.49 | mastergunns | ha! true, if a company does follow that path they should be able to get project completed faster and cheaper, no? |
| 17:58.59 | macnewbold | so their 45K/year guy costs them 55-65K/year |
| 17:59.29 | macnewbold | when they could have spent a lot less than 5K/month on contract help, and probably got it done faster too |
| 17:59.38 | macnewbold | the funniest part to me about the in house guy is this: |
| 17:59.47 | macnewbold | they hire when they have a project they want to do |
| 18:00.02 | macnewbold | in 6-8 months the project launches and goes into "maintenance" mode rather than active development |
| 18:00.14 | macnewbold | so they give the guy some other stuff to do, cause he's got free time... |
| 18:00.29 | macnewbold | then start depending on him for a bunch of stuff he's way overqualified for, and when they have another project, he's tied up |
| 18:00.32 | macnewbold | so they hire another guy :) |
| 18:00.40 | macnewbold | lather, rinse, repeat, and the cycle continues... |
| 18:01.00 | macnewbold | and before they know it, they have 3-5 "senior web interface developers" |
| 18:01.09 | macnewbold | who spend a lot of their time doing help-desk/sysadmin stuff |
| 18:01.26 | macnewbold | and have lots of "meetings" to argue over how they should do any new projects mgmt asks for |
| 18:01.52 | thebigdog | now that i see tons in the biz |
| 18:02.23 | thebigdog | but what is funny is the yr requirements 3-5 yrs |
| 18:02.26 | thebigdog | that is not senior to me |
| 18:02.30 | thebigdog | no way no how |
| 18:02.41 | mastergunns | no 3 years is not senior anything, maybe a senior in college |
| 18:03.19 | thebigdog | when you hit the 10yr mark then you can start thinking about senior |
| 18:05.08 | mindjuju | just playing devils advocate |
| 18:05.22 | mindjuju | do we even use things that long? |
| 18:05.57 | thebigdog | its all about experience and problem solving |
| 18:06.34 | mindjuju | yes, i agree with that |
| 18:06.48 | mindjuju | but the way we grew up and the way our kids are growing up, completely different |
| 18:07.01 | thebigdog | you can say that about any generation |
| 18:07.22 | mindjuju | yes, but with tech, kids growing up around it, they have that familiarity that you're talking about |
| 18:07.23 | thebigdog | you to your parents and to your grandparents |
| 18:07.34 | thebigdog | true...they know how to use |
| 18:08.01 | thebigdog | but development is another beast |
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| 18:23.08 | mgeary | okay folks. so i've got a client who insists on overriding the right mouse button on their images to discourage people from taking their photos... |
| 18:23.43 | mgeary | ...it's clearly a futile gesture, but they really want it, so we'll do it for them. However, i don't want to intercept right-clicks on non-images. Anyone know if this can be done? |
| 18:24.29 | thebigdog | i am sure you can get the mouse event on the image tag |
| 18:25.21 | stderr | uh, yea, but there are better ways. shrink wrap it. |
| 18:27.41 | thebigdog | that could work too |
| 18:27.50 | stderr | set a div's background as the relevant image to be protected, then put an image tag referencing a transparent image inside that div |
| 18:28.20 | stderr | make sure the transparent image's width/height is the same size |
| 18:28.29 | stderr | then when they right click to download it, they just get a blank image |
| 18:28.55 | _psychic_ | we've wrapped em in a very simple swf as well |
| 18:29.09 | stderr | this obviously can be circumvented as well, but it's easier to do and doesn't require JS |
| 18:29.11 | mgeary | heh. well yeah, but the client won't understand that. It's not about providing *real* protection for the images... it's about giving the client their little alert message |
| 18:29.26 | stderr | _psychic_: yea, that's definitely a better solution |
| 18:29.40 | stderr | the client will understand it when they right click and get a blank image |
| 18:30.21 | _psychic_ | seems like you should be able to listen to events at the document level, and inspect the target for the even to tell if it's an image (or a div with a certain class around the img, etc.) |
| 18:32.46 | mindjuju | ~seen poeticintensity |
| 18:32.47 | ibot | poeticintensity <~jason@67.214.232.162> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 6d 14m 19s ago, saying: 'very realistic FPS. One shot to the head, and your last 45 minutes in the campaign are gone.'. |
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| 20:36.11 | romanovic | day is going so slow... |
| 20:37.13 | romanovic | it must be thursday. i never could get the hang of thursdays. |
| 20:40.48 | thebigdog | i love thursdays |
| 20:43.13 | carmony | ok, any apache gurus on? |
| 20:43.31 | thebigdog | ask your question |
| 20:44.09 | carmony | is there a way I can do an apachetop for ALL apache traffic, regardless fo vhost? |
| 20:45.17 | thebigdog | if it is in the log file |
| 20:47.02 | thebigdog | you could probably pipe all your files together and have it search them |
| 20:57.55 | herlo | carmony: are you curious about which sites are getting the most traffic? |
| 20:58.10 | carmony | see a percentage between two websites |
| 21:01.34 | influx | kyoo ha mokuyo desu. |
| 21:04.38 | influx | ashita ha kinyoo desu. |
| 21:14.01 | carmony | anyone here tried Rackspace Cloud? |
| 21:14.14 | ninnypants | it's not bad |
| 21:14.25 | ninnypants | I've been working with it a bit lately |
| 21:35.28 | Rippie | hi all.... |
| 21:39.06 | romanovic | hey |
| 21:41.44 | carmony | Amazon Cloud is a little too cloudy and steep for this project |
| 22:00.56 | ninnypants | carmony: the hosting is good the folder structure is a little weird |
| 22:01.03 | carmony | ok |
| 22:01.29 | ninnypants | the backend is nice for managing your sites |
| 22:03.36 | carmony | notice any performance issues? |
| 22:04.16 | ninnypants | not in the cloud sites but the cloud server I set up is a little slow but that's probably my fault |
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| 22:18.15 | beandog | yo ho yo ho |
| 22:18.29 | beandog | any good youtube videos out there? |
| 22:18.32 | ninnypants | beandog: and a bottle of rum? |
| 22:18.36 | beandog | ~summon the infinite wisdom of mindjuju |
| 22:18.37 | ibot | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing the infinite wisdom of mindjuju's coordinates |
| 22:20.01 | beandog | http://thecuriousbrain.com/?p=7082 |
| 22:20.14 | beandog | stumbleupon++ |
| 22:23.07 | herlo | beandog: ^^ I agree |
| 22:24.50 | beandog | http://comics.com/zoom/304248/ |
| 22:24.52 | beandog | lol |
| 22:26.37 | influx | Has anyone here used Coda with SVN? |
| 22:29.24 | beandog | http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Do-The-Math-8-Reasons-Harry-Potter-Is-Greater-Than-Twilight-13981.html |
| 22:29.46 | SunSparc | influx: I have |
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| 22:30.15 | SunSparc | It could use some improvement, but it works. |
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| 22:31.57 | stderr | http://www.dataloss.net/papers/how.defaced.apache.org.txt |
| 22:34.10 | beandog | stderr, freek. |
| 22:35.01 | influx | SunSparc: I think I may have found what I needed, but I'm not sure. This'll be my first time working with SVN at all. |
| 22:35.03 | stderr | one of the classics |
| 22:36.12 | SunSparc | influx: Your first venture into the world of SVN should probably be on the command line. Although, if you are just barely venturing into SVN, don't, just skip straight to git. |
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| 22:36.27 | unum | SunSparc: I won't let him :p |
| 22:36.34 | SunSparc | ~lart unum |
| 22:36.34 | ibot | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at unum |
| 22:36.46 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:36.55 | SunSparc | influx: Quick run away! |
| 22:37.32 | beandog | http://improveverywhere.com/ |
| 22:37.37 | beandog | always great for entertainment |
| 22:38.13 | influx | Hehehe. |
| 22:39.17 | SunSparc | hah |
| 22:39.56 | beandog | the best buy one is classic |
| 22:40.00 | beandog | so is the grocery store song |
| 22:40.37 | orsonj | yeah, the musicals are usually good |
| 22:40.46 | SunSparc | The Jumper one was good. |
| 22:41.53 | beandog | http://improveverywhere.com/2009/12/14/guerrilla-handbell-strikeforce/ |
| 22:41.57 | beandog | that is awesome :D |
| 22:41.57 | influx | "svn: attempt to write to a readonly database" |
| 22:41.59 | influx | huzzah! |
| 22:42.02 | beandog | SunSparc, jumper one? |
| 22:42.40 | SunSparc | They guy who was on the ledge (2 feet high) and threatening to end his live and someone talks him down. |
| 22:43.35 | SunSparc | beandog: http://improveverywhere.com/2005/12/10/suicide-jumper/ |
| 22:43.46 | beandog | SunSparc, no way |
| 22:43.47 | beandog | I gotta see this |
| 22:43.48 | beandog | :D |
| 22:46.03 | beandog | lmao, he's 4 feet off the ground |
| 22:46.58 | beandog | lol, a hero |
| 22:47.04 | beandog | ~SunSparc++ |
| 22:47.42 | SunSparc | woot! |
| 22:47.46 | beandog | Oh my crap this just keeps getting better |
| 22:48.02 | SunSparc | Yeah, I liked that one. |
| 22:52.31 | beandog | The only time I felt close to breaking character and laughing was 1) when I first saw Agent Shelktone nervously stepping towards me, since watching him once again revealed how absurdly close to the ground we were and 2) when Agent Ace$Thugg told me I should not kill myself because you gotta good-lookin wife. |
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| 23:05.23 | Rippie | How is it i can read a string for max 100 chars and if more replace it with ... ? |
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| 23:06.35 | influx | Hmm. I think I'll have to try Cornerstone or Versions for browsing of svn history. |
| 23:06.39 | influx | And other things. |
| 23:06.51 | itimber | ~Cornerstone++ |
| 23:08.56 | itimber | Rippie: check out strlen and str_replace |
| 23:09.17 | influx | itimber: Have you tried Versions and found that it lacks something Cornerstone doesn't have? |
| 23:09.46 | Rippie | thank you.. |
| 23:09.49 | orsonj | s/.{100}(.*)/.../ would probably do it |
| 23:15.32 | orsonj | $str_trim = preg_replace("/.{100}(.*)/", "\1", $str); |
| 23:15.51 | Rippie | cheers ! |
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| 23:31.59 | orsonj | whoops, try: $str_trim = preg_replace("/(.{100}).*/", "$1...", $str); |
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| 23:34.53 | beandog | orsonj, cant you just use wordwrap() ? |
| 23:35.20 | beandog | oh, wait |
| 23:35.24 | beandog | Im thinking of something else. |
| 23:35.42 | Rippie | orsonj: what about $sHORTER = substr_replace($oRIGINAL, '...', 10); ?? |
| 23:40.54 | orsonj | that puts ... on shorter strings also |
| 23:41.46 | beandog | $str = current(preg_split('/.{100}/', $str)).' ...'; |
| 23:41.57 | beandog | whoops, my ) is off. |
| 23:43.11 | Rippie | what you mean your ) is off ? |
| 23:43.24 | beandog | oh wait, maybe not. |
| 23:43.54 | orsonj | but it still adds ... to short strings |
| 23:44.10 | beandog | well just throw in an if checking the strlen |
| 23:44.43 | fungus | lame, fire alarm... brb |
| 23:45.27 | orsonj | In (a limited few) tests that I have done, one line of preg_* is faster than a few lines of php. |
| 23:48.13 | beandog | echo $str = substr($str, 0, 100) . (strlen($str) > 100 ? '...' : ''); |
| 23:48.15 | beandog | whee :D |
| 23:49.44 | beandog | Rippie, ^^ |
| 23:49.47 | beandog | orsonj, preg is supah fast. |
| 23:50.37 | ninnypants | super crazy snow down in Provo/Orem |
| 23:50.57 | DexterTheDragon | super awesome rain up in layton |
| 23:51.19 | orsonj | super crazy lack of windows here at my office |
| 23:51.21 | beandog | We got *nothing* here all day (Taylorsville) |
| 23:51.25 | orsonj | (logan) |
| 23:51.28 | beandog | except wind. |
| 23:51.45 | beandog | its a little overcast but thats it |
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| 23:58.15 | orsonj | coolio, strlen/substr is faster in this case |
