| 00:01.31 | macnewbold | someone needs to fix ibot... |
| 00:01.45 | mindjuju | what's wrong with ibot? |
| 00:04.11 | orsonj | It has the strange impression that carmony knows php |
| 00:04.20 | carmony | lol :P |
| 00:09.32 | jsmith | ibot: help onjoin |
| 00:09.50 | jsmith | ibot: onjoin #UPHPU -carmony |
| 00:09.50 | ibot | jsmith: ok |
| 00:09.59 | jsmith | carmony: Leave and come back, will ya? |
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| 00:10.29 | mindjuju | jsmith, carmony put the onjoin |
| 00:10.34 | jsmith | ibot: onjoin _default -carmony |
| 00:10.34 | ibot | ok, jsmith |
| 00:10.36 | carmony | :P |
| 00:10.57 | mindjuju | he wants it |
| 00:11.06 | fungus | ~onjoin carmony |
| 00:11.06 | ibot | onjoin for carmony set by carmony on Wed Feb 10 21:28:09 2010: The great PHP master has entered the room. All be prepared to be amazed! |
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| 00:11.14 | ibot | ok, fungus |
| 00:11.26 | fungus | ~onjoin carmony |
| 00:11.38 | mindjuju | i'm confused, why are you guys removing his onjoin? |
| 00:11.55 | jsmith | mindjuju: Because we can! |
| 00:12.51 | jsmith | Oooh... sorry about the coctail sauce on your keyboard there... |
| 00:13.19 | carmony | hey :( |
| 00:13.42 | mindjuju | leave and come back carmony |
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| 00:14.03 | jsmith | You scared him off! |
| 00:14.07 | mindjuju | ...and come back! |
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| 00:14.19 | carmony | hehehehe |
| 00:14.21 | jsmith | (or he's message ibot offline to re-add the onjoin) |
| 00:14.27 | jsmith | s/message/messaging/ |
| 00:14.29 | mindjuju | i messaged |
| 00:14.38 | mindjuju | though i don't know about the 01 business |
| 00:33.10 | supernovia | oh how's your class going btw, mindjuju? |
| 00:33.42 | mindjuju | it's going alright, the teacher was a punk for docking me a bunch of points onthe last project |
| 00:33.59 | mindjuju | i've talked to him though, and I get to resubmit since the instructions weren't clear |
| 00:34.28 | romanovic | what class(es) are you taking? |
| 00:34.51 | mindjuju | 1400 |
| 00:35.11 | supernovia | aka fun times in C# |
| 00:35.47 | mindjuju | he does have opps for bonus points, so that's cool |
| 00:36.05 | mindjuju | he's generally fair, but this last project where i got docked points, i thought it was petty |
| 00:37.41 | supernovia | Our teacher gave us a week to fix any issues brought up |
| 00:38.24 | mindjuju | that' cool, i wish ours did the same |
| 00:38.25 | romanovic | sounds fair to me |
| 00:38.38 | mindjuju | maybe he does, and i just didn't notice? |
| 00:38.39 | romanovic | mindjuju, what school? |
| 00:38.42 | mindjuju | UVU |
| 00:39.17 | mindjuju | like i say, the guy has been fair so far, and really seems to know his stuff, i'm was just shocked |
| 00:39.32 | supernovia | what did he dock you for? |
| 00:39.54 | mindjuju | formating and then he says that a num that it was suppose to display wasn't quite right, even though the total was right |
| 00:40.02 | supernovia | and seriously it's probably just a different grader |
| 00:40.13 | mindjuju | the display, he did put up a pic of how he wanted it, but it was WAYYYYYYY down at the bottom of the page |
| 00:40.23 | mindjuju | beneath EVERYTHIGN including scoring and everythign else |
| 00:40.33 | mindjuju | well beyond the instructions and list of what it should have / do |
| 00:40.35 | supernovia | oh, nice.Which project was this? |
| 00:40.49 | mindjuju | proj 4, rabbits rabbits rabbits |
| 00:41.13 | mindjuju | he wanted it in a table like he had a pic of, and I had it in a table as he had it listed in the instructions |
| 00:42.23 | supernovia | ah. |
| 00:42.34 | supernovia | We didn't do that project. they must alternate them every semester |
| 00:43.02 | mindjuju | it wasn't too bad, code wise, it's more the algorhtym he wanted |
| 00:43.31 | mindjuju | where you had to find out how long 2 breeding bunnies would fill a labratory of 500 cages |
| 00:43.34 | supernovia | was it one of those 'predict how many rabbits after x generations' things? |
| 00:43.36 | mindjuju | assuming a couple things |
| 00:44.14 | mindjuju | yeah, each rabbit has exactly 2 kids, male, female, and maturation of one month required for each newb orn rabbit before breeding possible |
| 00:44.19 | mindjuju | i had all of that |
| 00:44.53 | mindjuju | i was even going to do some fancy footwork and do some randomization based on wikipedia on how many kits in the litter, and gestation period, but ran out of time |
| 00:57.45 | supernovia | sorry, had a call. |
| 00:58.12 | supernovia | Hear you on running out of time |
| 01:16.08 | Heartsbane | tahooie goes bloats. |
| 01:16.17 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 01:16.38 | Heartsbane | tahooie, he goes bloats. |
| 01:17.27 | mindjuju | anybody here have geiko or progressive auto insurance ? |
| 01:18.02 | Heartsbane | does a 10lb bag of flour make a really big biscuit? |
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| 01:20.47 | supernovia | If you add about 5 pounds of lard it would.. |
| 01:22.30 | mindjuju | or rather, why health couldn't follow the pattern that car insurance has |
| 01:22.44 | supernovia | hmm |
| 01:22.46 | Heartsbane | it doesn't IMO |
| 01:22.59 | mindjuju | what doesn't? |
| 01:23.30 | supernovia | do you buy progressive across state lines or is it just one brand name that has separate insurance offers by state? |
| 01:24.02 | Heartsbane | healthcare |
| 01:24.03 | mindjuju | you know, i'm not sure |
| 01:24.12 | mindjuju | that's why i wanted to find somebody who had it |
| 01:24.14 | mindjuju | wanted to ask |
| 01:25.22 | mindjuju | in reading some of these con pieces i'm finding some hang ups, don't know if they are fatal to the idea though |
| 01:26.06 | mindjuju | mainly this idea of network of doctors / hospitals |
| 01:26.18 | mindjuju | don't know if it is insurmountable, but i can see it as an obstacle |
| 01:54.50 | supernovia | hey mindjuju, I do know when I've tried to compare progressive with other carriers like they say you can do in their commercials (or like they used to say; I don't even have a working TV anymore) they said they couldn't do that in Utah |
| 01:55.07 | supernovia | I also suppose different states have different rules on insurance (both for health and car) |
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| 02:06.09 | supernovia | howdy beandog |
| 02:06.15 | beandog | meh |
| 02:06.29 | beandog | supernovia: ey |
| 02:06.38 | beandog | and work |
| 02:07.34 | supernovia | how are things going at the new(ish) place? |
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| 02:08.04 | beandog | supernovia: alright |
| 02:08.52 | supernovia | besides being a mom <3 |
| 02:08.56 | beandog | One where your boss is an IT guru |
| 02:10.02 | supernovia | Hmm |
| 02:10.24 | supernovia | That would be really cool, as long as he/she was not arrogant about it |
| 02:10.31 | beandog | oh yah |
| 02:10.33 | beandog | thats important |
| 02:10.55 | supernovia | (like a certain oracle dev I know ;-p) |
| 02:12.04 | supernovia | s/(like a certain oracle dev I know ;-p)/yup |
| 02:12.25 | supernovia | I was hoping I could replace that & forgot the slash. alas. |
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| 02:16.41 | supernovia1 | double d'oh. |
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| 02:21.03 | beandog | heh |
| 02:25.22 | romanovic | why do i get disconnected every day at exactly 19:00? |
| 02:25.31 | romanovic | and again at exactly midnight? |
| 02:29.01 | supernovia | Okay I feel bad about dissing on said oracle developer. He's a good guy & I love him as sisters ought to :) |
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| 02:31.18 | romanovic | supernovia, what kind of calling? |
| 02:31.44 | supernovia | church calling... chorister :) |
| 02:31.59 | TuxToaster | congrats |
| 02:32.08 | romanovic | nice |
| 02:32.09 | supernovia | Should be fun :-) |
| 02:32.19 | supernovia | Except on those crazy 3/2 songs |
| 02:32.23 | romanovic | yes |
| 02:32.34 | wps | I'd take that calling any day |
| 02:32.37 | wps | I love conducting |
| 02:32.51 | supernovia | or ones that change time sigs a bazillion times.. I'll have to get used to it :) |
| 02:33.16 | wps | I was so sad the day I was released as choir director |
| 02:33.20 | supernovia | I've loved (LOVED) being primary chorister when I've had that job |
| 02:33.44 | supernovia | so this should be fun ;) |
| 02:34.02 | romanovic | Speaking of choristers, I'm afraid to go back to choir. I went to choir on sundays before Christmas, then ditched the performance (legitimate travel obligations!) |
| 02:34.04 | supernovia | man though I am so embarrassed about the state of the apartment :-/ |
| 02:34.16 | romanovic | the chorister was not happy. |
| 02:34.40 | supernovia | were you a part-carrier? |
| 02:34.53 | romanovic | i was one of like two tenors |
| 02:35.00 | supernovia | Oh noes. |
| 02:35.32 | supernovia | I stopped going to choir practice, period. Love choir, but the chorister is not a fan of single moms. |
| 02:35.57 | romanovic | why? you bring your childrens with you? |
| 02:36.00 | supernovia | and likes to make sure my kids and I know it |
| 02:36.20 | supernovia | I do have to bring them, but she has other reasons |
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| 02:38.41 | supernovia | other reasons like concerns that my kids aren't turning out normal |
| 02:38.58 | supernovia | which she says outloud to me in front of them :-/ |
| 02:39.05 | romanovic | wow |
| 02:39.21 | supernovia | what's more, by 'normal' she means 'non-geeky' |
| 02:39.29 | romanovic | right |
| 02:39.40 | romanovic | is she from the past? |
| 02:39.56 | supernovia | Mm, she's probably as old as my mom. |
| 02:40.36 | supernovia | maybe slightly younger. Not too far distant past. But yeah she didn't react very well when I asked her to stop saying things like that in front of them. So just don't go anymore. |
| 02:40.50 | wps | thanks unfortunate, supernovia |
| 02:40.51 | supernovia | Nice wps :) |
| 02:41.04 | wps | now I just need my new computer to arrive so I can put it in it! |
| 02:41.19 | jsmith | wps: New computer? |
| 02:41.23 | wps | yuup |
| 02:41.33 | supernovia | Did you see that crazy storage device posted on matt mullenweg's blog thing? :-/ |
| 02:41.37 | wps | my G5 blew up |
| 02:41.38 | wps | literally |
| 02:41.43 | jsmith | wps: Seriously? |
| 02:41.44 | wps | smoke and everything |
| 02:41.51 | jsmith | You let out the magic smoke? |
| 02:41.51 | supernovia | wow jsmith |
| 02:41.52 | wps | liquid-cooling failure |
| 02:41.55 | romanovic | wow |
| 02:42.12 | jsmith | supernovia: Yeah... trying to finish my basement, fix cars, etc. |
| 02:42.19 | wps | so now there's a 2.9GHz quad-core with 6 GB of RAM in the mail some where |
| 02:42.20 | supernovia | good times |
| 02:42.30 | jsmith | supernovia: Just too much month at the end of the money |
| 02:42.36 | supernovia | nice wps |
| 02:42.38 | supernovia | and jsmith I hear you |
| 02:42.54 | wps | and it only cost $650 |
| 02:43.06 | supernovia | Wow. |
| 02:43.24 | wps | never imagined that a computer blowing up would be good fortune! |
| 02:43.38 | jsmith | wps: Seriously? |
| 02:44.02 | wps | yeahâ¦Â apple has replaced most of the liquid-cooling failures, as it is a big liability |
| 02:46.04 | romanovic | I wants a new system, but i shouldn't. |
| 02:47.12 | supernovia | I am happy as a doodlebug with my cute little zareason laptop they sent me :) |
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| 04:13.58 | supernovia | *sigh* (for the people who can't hear the word no) |
| 04:29.26 | mindjuju | no? |
| 04:29.35 | supernovia | Yeah |
| 04:54.30 | herlo | supernovia: did they just send you a new notebook even though you told them *no*? |
| 04:54.45 | supernovia | hehe, no they (zareason) are really cool |
| 04:55.28 | herlo | supernovia: hehe, I wasn't implying that they weren't cool. In fact, I was saying they were insisting you get a lappy |
| 04:55.36 | herlo | even though you told them no :) |
| 04:55.43 | herlo | but I guess that's not the story at all |
| 04:56.02 | supernovia | heheh, it isn't. They are very awesome :) |
| 04:56.46 | herlo | :) |
| 04:57.22 | supernovia | just when you tell someone no and they think they know better than you so they keep on trying to make you do something = not cool |
| 08:08.16 | supernovia | for anyone who is awake: http://wise.ssl.berkeley.edu/gallery_andromeda.html |
| 08:14.41 | influx | Followed that link through yer twitter. |
| 08:14.43 | influx | Dig it. |
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| 14:01.14 | carmony | hola :P |
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| 14:24.02 | cedwards | I recently found some example code using @ in front of file-related functions to supress error output. |
| 14:24.11 | cedwards | Does this work with any function? |
| 14:24.32 | supernovia | as far as I know it does.. |
| 14:27.44 | cedwards | that's a useful little tidbit |
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| 14:53.32 | carmony | uggg, wow.... |
| 14:54.07 | carmony | this project I picked up, the old code is so... so... spaghetti :P |
| 14:57.24 | jsmith | carmony: That's not spaghetti code... that's linguini code! |
| 14:57.41 | carmony | haha |
| 14:58.41 | carmony | The Art of Bootstrapping is such an important thing to learn :P |
| 15:00.17 | jsmith | Yeah... right before "The Ancient Oriental Art of Data Massage" |
| 15:08.02 | carmony | jsmith: hows the world of Asterix going for you? :) |
| 15:08.49 | supernovia | oh man... it's gorgeous out there this morning |
| 15:11.03 | jsmith | carmony: Not too shabby... keeping me busy, that's for sure |
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| 15:41.56 | ninnypants | morning everyone |
| 15:42.02 | carmony | morning :) |
| 15:44.38 | supernovia | howdy |
| 15:44.38 | ninnypants | where's a good place to learn about using mcrypt other than the manual? |
| 15:45.04 | carmony | ummmm... you could search for mcrypt tutorials |
| 15:47.10 | ninnypants | I did that and found this but from the comments it sound's like he's doing weird non standard stuff http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/php/creating-a-crypter-class/ |
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| 17:05.43 | brasto | so y'all I still have that issue with mod rewrite not allowing url without a file name at the end of the url. |
| 17:06.41 | ninnypants | what does your htaccess look like? |
| 17:10.03 | brasto | ninnypants: http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu/2010-February/ |
| 17:10.07 | brasto | last thread |
| 17:10.22 | brasto | [UPHPU] Apache 2.2 mod rewrite issue |
| 17:10.32 | brasto | any new ideas? |
| 17:10.46 | brasto | I'm reading mod rewrite documentation again and just cannot find anything. |
| 17:11.40 | supernovia | I saw that brasto and don't have much of an idea |
| 17:11.44 | brasto | ninnypants: I have one .htaccess file mentioned at the start of that thread, but later on, I show another one for another site. |
| 17:12.57 | brasto | I almost want to copy over the whole apache config file from the old server to see if it works. |
| 17:13.15 | supernovia | I do know wordpress has its own rewrites that rely on the site url found in the database, so you might make sure your rewrites aren't going against what's listed there as the site name (with or without the www, for example) |
| 17:13.34 | supernovia | and you say it only happens when you enable friendly urls, right? |
| 17:15.59 | ninnypants | so are you getting wp's 404 page or are you getting something like a 500 error |
| 17:21.07 | brasto | yes, because enabling freindly urls creates the .htaccess file with the mod rewrite lines. |
| 17:21.28 | brasto | The access logs show a 403 |
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| 17:28.12 | Utah_Dave | hey, supernovia. You mentioned yesterday that you've been doing mostly freelancing. Are you keeping track of all your tax deductions and stuff? |
| 17:28.30 | supernovia | Yeah, I don't have very many though. |
| 17:29.07 | supernovia | just medical and donations I think... didn't buy new stuff for myself this year |
| 17:29.46 | supernovia | or last year, rather. |
| 17:30.06 | Utah_Dave | How about miles on your car, home office, your new laptop, etc |
| 17:30.23 | supernovia | I did put a fair ammount of time into making that project for the women's group work, but I couldn't buy any tables or anything for it |
| 17:31.16 | Utah_Dave | There's a lot of stuff you can deduct as a small business. It can save you a ton of money in taxes |
| 17:32.43 | supernovia | Hmm, well, I didn't do any travelling last year for work projects, and like I say, didn't spend a dime on new equipment, cards, etc. |
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| 17:33.00 | supernovia | I will probably do some of that this year though so I am definitely keeping related reciepts |
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| 17:34.15 | ninnypants | brasto: is your server down now? also have you tried restarting apache? because before if I navigated to chsalumni.net I'd get the basic it works type of page |
| 17:34.49 | supernovia | Thanks for the reminder, Utah_Dave. I hadn't actually put the receipt away for the ram I purchased recently. I should do that :) |
| 17:35.13 | brasto | ninnypants: I just tried the old server's config so it went down for a bit |
| 17:35.23 | brasto | I've restored the old config and it's up |
| 17:35.55 | ninnypants | yeah I still get the centos it works page |
| 17:36.02 | brasto | yea, the basic it works page is what is thrown for the error document, for the 403 |
| 17:36.13 | brasto | go to http://chsalumni.net/index.php |
| 17:36.17 | brasto | it will show what you should see |
| 17:36.35 | brasto | note that all the mod rewriting works from that point |
| 17:36.50 | brasto | the only thing that doesn't work is requesting the home page without specifying the file |
| 17:37.27 | brasto | damndedest thing I've seen, and I've seen some damnded things... |
| 17:37.28 | brasto | lol |
| 17:37.37 | utahcon | brasto: does you apache file have the document root file set? |
| 17:37.47 | utahcon | to index.php? |
| 17:37.51 | brasto | yep |
| 17:37.56 | brasto | in various places |
| 17:37.59 | utahcon | hmm |
| 17:38.07 | brasto | not currently in the vhost, but I put it there once too. |
| 17:38.48 | brasto | see what's odd is that you only need to turn on mod rewrite with a .htaccess file for the problem to happen, with no rules |
| 17:39.05 | brasto | but if you enable it in the vhost it works fine |
| 17:39.22 | brasto | but if you put the rules that are in the .htaccess file into the vhost, they don't work. |
| 17:39.27 | brasto | it's really screwy |
| 17:39.40 | brasto | or, damndedest |
| 17:50.10 | SunSparc | Anyone here ever use Zend Server who could speak to whether it is worth using or not? |
| 17:51.27 | utahcon | SunSparc: Not really. |
| 17:51.42 | utahcon | SunSparc: That is, I use it, and I don't think it is worth it. |
| 17:52.24 | SunSparc | Not helpful enough to be worth installing? |
| 17:53.50 | utahcon | If you are going to be using the full Zend suite (Server & Studio) it is ok. It helps no doubt, but not enough to make a big deal about it. |
| 18:00.09 | utahcon | I hate when http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ reports that it is just me :( |
| 18:01.46 | SunSparc | utahcon: Thanks for the feedback. |
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| 18:01.58 | SunSparc | Yeah, I hate that too. Means it is something I have to fix. |
| 18:06.13 | brasto | Shall I join the httpd mail list? I am afraid of the kind of traffic it likely has... |
| 18:07.02 | SunSparc | Nah, just jump on their irc channel. |
| 18:19.53 | stderr | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.55 | stderr | blah |
| 18:21.29 | SunSparc | heh |
| 18:21.57 | SunSparc | At least you didn't do: |
| 18:21.58 | SunSparc | su |
| 18:22.01 | SunSparc | dsf890ewkj |
| 18:23.44 | supernovia | lol SunSparc |
| 18:23.58 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:28.15 | macnewbold | sweet, geek lunch announced finally! http://blog.utos.org/2010/02/23/february-2010-geek-lunch-to-the-pub-we-go/ or see the menu at http://www.thegreenpigpub.com/images/menu_final_081709_b.pdf |
| 18:28.17 | brasto | hey guys, I thought of a brilliant hack. It's not a real fix, but it should work... |
| 18:28.23 | brasto | ErrorDocument 403 /index.php |
| 18:29.09 | *** topic/#UPHPU by macnewbold -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | Geek Lunch tomorrow, Friday 2/26: http://blog.utos.org/2010/02/23/february-2010-geek-lunch-to-the-pub-we-go/ |
| 18:33.10 | brasto | hmmm, self-proposed hack didn't work |
| 18:34.02 | macnewbold | brasto: are you sure you want 403 instead of 404? |
| 18:35.15 | brasto | 67.182.203.21 - - [24/Feb/2010:23:38:48 -0700] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 403 5043 "http://chsalumni.net/wp-admin/options-permalink.php" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.6) Gecko/20091201 SUSE/3.5.6-1.1.1 Firefox/3.5.6" |
| 18:35.27 | brasto | that's where I see the 403 macnewbold |
| 18:35.53 | macnewbold | brasto: you also might check your rewrite rules... it sounds like they might not be doing what you intend when they visit without the index.php on there |
| 18:36.11 | brasto | when doing a page refresh on http://chsalumni.net |
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| 18:36.20 | supernovia | brasto what if you did a RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !=index.php or something? |
| 18:36.21 | brasto | yea, that's what I'm trying to figure out |
| 18:36.26 | macnewbold | the 403 means forbidden, i.e. you probably haven't logged in |
| 18:36.34 | brasto | it works fine on the old server, but not the new one |
| 18:36.42 | utahcon | macnewbold: 403 be due to file perms? |
| 18:36.49 | brasto | I wonder if the sticky bit is causing problems... |
| 18:37.26 | supernovia | can you request favicon.ico (like it says you ought to be able to do in the rules there?) if so then adding a condition for index.php ought to do the trick |
| 18:37.36 | macnewbold | no, probably WP returning the 403 because it's an admin page and they aren't logged in as an admin |
| 18:37.43 | macnewbold | oh, nm |
| 18:37.46 | macnewbold | that's for index |
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| 18:37.53 | macnewbold | being referred by options-permalink.php |
| 18:38.57 | brasto | yea, and on Drupal, I get the same issue, being referred by something else entirely |
| 18:39.04 | macnewbold | brasto: when i go to it, I just get the apache/centos test page - is there an index.html in that foldeR? |
| 18:39.09 | supernovia | or maybe instead of index.php use a somethingelse.php (so as to protect any other index.php's as wordpress is wont to do) and then just use DirectoryIndex to send people that way if you'd like |
| 18:39.24 | macnewbold | if index.html is listed before index.php on your list of index pages, it will be taken first instead of your index.php |
| 18:39.53 | brasto | no, there is not, macnewbold. It's serving a page not even in the vhost doc root or any subfolders. |
| 18:39.58 | macnewbold | i can get http://chsalumni.net/wp-admin/ to pull up |
| 18:40.15 | macnewbold | maybe it isn't using the config you think it is using? |
| 18:40.22 | brasto | in fact, if I do a grep -ir centos www/chsalumni - I bet it'll get 0 hits |
| 18:40.24 | supernovia | sorry brasto. I mean RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} !=/whatever.php |
| 18:41.25 | brasto | I'll add that supernovia so see what happens |
| 18:41.28 | supernovia | K. |
| 18:41.31 | redroy | is this for real? http://www.norcalis.com/ I seriously can't tell if it's a joke or not |
| 18:41.38 | supernovia | just by the part for favicon.ico too |
| 18:41.39 | macnewbold | brasto: on the welcome page it says: If you are the website administrator: You may now add content to the directory /var/www/html/. Note that until you do so, people visiting your website will see this page and not your content. To prevent this page from ever being used, follow the instructions in the file /etc/httpd/conf.d/welcome.conf. |
| 18:42.02 | macnewbold | redroy: i think it is for real, personally. that guy means business. |
| 18:42.12 | utahcon | redroy: that is the bomb! |
| 18:42.13 | brasto | yep, I just ran that grep, and it's nowhere in the vhost |
| 18:42.42 | macnewbold | brasto: it won't be in there, it's in the apache install itself. but there's some reason it's pulling up, probably config related |
| 18:42.45 | brasto | hmmm, maybe I could change ErrorDocument in conf.d/welcom.conf |
| 18:42.51 | macnewbold | what does it say in /etc/httpd/conf.d/welcome.conf ? |
| 18:43.00 | supernovia | oh wait brasto, I misunderstood - you wanted to be able to access .org/ without index.php ..ok. |
| 18:43.00 | macnewbold | brasto: i probably wouldn't change it |
| 18:43.15 | macnewbold | it shouldn't be loading that .conf if you've got your config set up right i think |
| 18:43.36 | utahcon | redroy: did you look at http://www.walk-outs.com/ |
| 18:43.47 | redroy | I just can't believe itâ¦. when he walks off the stage I want to do die laughing |
| 18:44.26 | brasto | macnewbold: the contents of welcome.conf are in here: http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu/2010-February/010685.html |
| 18:44.43 | macnewbold | redroy: yeah, no kidding. it's pretty bad. but there are others out there like it... i don't remember the url, but i saw one a year or so ago that almost had several of us at the office laughing so hard that we were nearly code brown |
| 18:45.12 | utahcon | redroy: The vids are Flash 6 |
| 18:45.26 | macnewbold | brasto: anything useful in the welcome.conf comments? |
| 18:45.50 | brasto | Just 4 lines... I think pasting 4 lines should be ok here... |
| 18:45.53 | brasto | # This configuration file enables the default "Welcome" |
| 18:45.53 | brasto | # page if there is no default index page present for |
| 18:45.53 | brasto | # the root URL. To disable the Welcome page, comment |
| 18:45.54 | brasto | # out all the lines below. |
| 18:46.19 | brasto | and yet there is a default index page present |
| 18:46.52 | redroy | utahcon⦠so funny, I seriously can't take it |
| 18:46.52 | ninnypants | there was one on cfh recently |
| 18:47.10 | macnewbold | where is your directory index line in the config? what does it say? |
| 18:47.19 | macnewbold | is it on the vhost or global? |
| 18:47.20 | supernovia | nice utahcon ..lol |
| 18:47.32 | redroy | I'm bookmarking those bad-boys so I can refer clients who think my pricing is too high |
| 18:47.45 | supernovia | good idea redroy :- |
| 18:47.46 | brasto | lol, ok hacking worked |
| 18:48.00 | brasto | I changed welcome.conf so that it serves index.php |
| 18:49.02 | brasto | maybe I didn't restart apache when I tried it before with ErrorDocument 403 /index.php in the vhost... |
| 18:49.09 | macnewbold | is it serving it up with a 403 or not? |
| 18:49.10 | ninnypants | http://www.norcalis.com/ |
| 18:49.20 | macnewbold | if that welcome.conf is coming into play, it means that it isn't finding an index |
| 18:49.43 | ninnypants | that's the one that was on CFH a while back |
| 18:49.46 | macnewbold | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/apache-2.2-index.html-configure-httpd.conf-file-467757/ |
| 18:49.54 | macnewbold | brasto: that link had a similar/same problem |
| 18:49.58 | macnewbold | and shows the fix |
| 18:50.21 | SunSparc | That walk-out guy is hilarious. |
| 18:50.39 | redroy | I'm still laughing... |
| 18:51.08 | brasto | hmmm... that's interesting.... no it's not. I ran this to watch for it: |
| 18:51.10 | macnewbold | personally, I think think that the DirectoryIndex isn't matching right |
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| 18:51.28 | brasto | tail -f www/log/chsalumni/access_log | grep 403 |
| 18:51.48 | brasto | ah, but I'm requesting with the index.php |
| 18:51.50 | brasto | one moment |
| 18:52.13 | brasto | ok, I'm not requesting with index.php, and still no 403 |
| 18:52.26 | brasto | Now I'll try removing that line as the config suggests |
| 18:52.27 | ninnypants | so do you think he's serious or is it people just making fun of walkouts? |
| 18:52.56 | fungus | utahcon/redroy: laughing. It was so painful I want to cry. |
| 18:53.02 | fungus | or vomit, I can't decide |
| 18:53.47 | brasto | ok, macnewbold, with no 403 specified, I get what you can see if you go to http://chsalumni.net right now |
| 18:53.57 | brasto | Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. |
| 18:54.12 | brasto | and a 403 in the access logs |
| 18:55.54 | supernovia | what's your directoryindex set to? |
| 18:56.06 | brasto | supernovia: DirectoryIndex index.html index.html.var index.php |
| 18:56.22 | brasto | and i tried putting index.php as the first one just to test |
| 18:56.37 | supernovia | curious if it's just not paying attention to that |
| 18:57.23 | brasto | it's also in conf.d in the section that loads the php module |
| 18:57.39 | brasto | and if I add it to the vhost, it doesn't make s difference either |
| 18:59.04 | brasto | in fact, for the drupal install, the .htaccess file also does directoryIndex index.php as well. |
| 19:01.15 | brasto | well, I've a few errands to run. I'm going to leave it without the hack enabled for a while and I'll check this channel when I get back. |
| 19:01.30 | brasto | I've now emailed the issue to the httpd mail list as well. |
| 19:01.39 | brasto | bbl |
| 19:06.57 | DexterTheDragon | http://www.di.fm/mp3/trance.pls |
| 19:41.29 | ninnypants | I've been the only one in my area of the office complex for a couple weeks now |
| 19:41.55 | ninnypants | it's super weird because there are a lot of cars parked outside |
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| 20:11.49 | carmony | I think I might make the Ogden geek lunch |
| 20:11.53 | carmony | Layton* |
| 20:16.19 | SunSparc | mgeary: You guys do peel-away ads? |
| 20:29.05 | SunSparc | ~apb mgeary |
| 20:29.06 | ibot | ACTION hires Tim to rough up mgeary |
| 20:32.06 | carmony | DexterTheDragon: when you commit changes from git to a remote repository, is it faster than SVN? |
| 20:32.13 | carmony | or utahcon ^^ |
| 20:32.22 | DexterTheDragon | sure |
| 20:32.38 | DexterTheDragon | its all local so you don't have to wait for anything to transfer over the wire |
| 20:33.24 | DexterTheDragon | and when you do push over the wire the git protocol is a lot more effiecient usually than svn's |
| 20:38.52 | SunSparc | Yeah, the git repository is distributed, so a copy of it actually resides on your local dev environment. You commit locally. Then you can sync with the server when you are ready. It sounds similar to svn but actually it is a bit different. |
| 20:41.21 | romanovic | I only use svn at work and at home. I haven't quite wrapped my mind around git's concepts, though i understand the above-stated advantages |
| 20:44.46 | romanovic | If i'm working on a team and I need to know I can come in to work in the morning, update from trunk and have the latest of everything from a central location, how would a distributed approach using git accomplish the same thing? |
| 20:48.00 | fungus | romanovic, same idea. Just run a pull in the morning. |
| 20:48.11 | fungus | You'll get everything your team has pushed |
| 20:49.03 | fungus | a git commit is just local. It isn't visible to others until you push |
| 20:55.40 | SunSparc | Just puts more processing on the local env instead of the server I guess. |
| 20:55.58 | brasto | well, I think I'm going to live with my 403 hack for now. |
| 20:56.20 | SunSparc | If it works... :) |
| 20:57.57 | mgeary | sorry SunSparc |
| 20:58.00 | mgeary | busy day |
| 20:58.25 | mgeary | we do ads, but haven't yet done a "peel-away" one... |
| 20:59.05 | SunSparc | Ok. I know someone who is looking. Just trying to help them find a dev/salon that will do it for them. |
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| 21:02.05 | stderr | argh, damn you, Mechanize |
| 21:13.44 | romanovic | we're surrounded by penguins |
| 21:14.37 | romanovic | now, is a penguin master a penguin, who is also the master, or someone who is master of the penguins? or both? |
| 21:17.31 | romanovic | ugh |
| 21:17.32 | romanovic | yeah |
| 21:18.03 | romanovic | tables are completely appropriate for tabular data |
| 21:19.29 | ninnypants | I hate the grey area of tables where the data could be a list or a table |
| 21:20.09 | supernovia | yeah, I have to go rewrite an invoice's products-ordered section (with its sku, item, price, qty, total) because its floats are all goofed up. |
| 21:20.31 | supernovia | Usually if it could be a list or a table, I try to do it as a list |
| 21:20.49 | supernovia | because maybe you'd want to display it as a list someday. |
| 21:21.37 | supernovia | or maybe you'd want to give people the option to show a list. Like in an events calendar. I am totally fine with doing that in floated list items, because maybe you'd want to just show days with events as a list. |
| 21:22.09 | ninnypants | yeah I usualy ask someone else what they think and get crazy looks |
| 21:22.17 | ninnypants | then flip a coin |
| 21:24.05 | supernovia | anyway. </rant> |
| 21:29.37 | ninnypants | supernovia: what are you working on now? I you were doing stuff with some host back when I first talked to you at whyisjake's place forever ago |
| 21:30.08 | supernovia | Oh just random projects and a bachelors degree |
| 21:30.46 | supernovia | I've been doing just freelance work since March or so |
| 21:31.09 | supernovia | and then going back to school full time as well |
| 21:31.51 | ninnypants | that's crazy I don't think I'd take the freelance plunge and start school at the same time |
| 21:32.44 | supernovia | Yeah it is pretty crazy |
| 21:36.22 | supernovia | Oh dear... |
| 21:37.02 | ninnypants | mindjuju: what happened |
| 21:37.18 | mindjuju | well, some guy was asking question about CMS |
| 21:37.26 | mindjuju | his footer says he's with bonneville international |
| 21:37.42 | mindjuju | everybody is germane,t hen a comment about if bonneville is owned by the Mormons |
| 21:37.53 | mindjuju | not too bad, i just don't want to go down that road |
| 21:38.07 | mindjuju | i like the venue to feel open to everybody |
| 21:42.08 | SunSparc | Who are the Mormons? |
| 21:42.29 | mindjuju | :) |
| 21:42.34 | mindjuju | ~wiki mormons |
| 21:42.38 | carmony | lol |
| 21:43.11 | SunSparc | Oh, religious nuts. I see. Thanks. |
| 21:46.30 | supernovia | Yeah, looking at the guy's comment I don't know that he was intending to take it anywhere but it easily could have gone there anyhow |
| 21:46.51 | mindjuju | yup |
| 21:47.21 | ninnypants | ah the joys of religion |
| 21:48.15 | SunSparc | ~religion |
| 21:48.15 | ibot | well, religion is the opiate of the masses, or believing in invisible idiots in the sky |
| 21:48.46 | SunSparc | Interesting view ibot. |
| 21:48.59 | cedwards | ibot needs to know about Sky Cake (patton oswald - youtube) |
| 21:54.35 | ninnypants | so anyway PHP huh? |
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| 22:02.41 | supernovia | hi beandog :) |
| 22:02.49 | beandog | supernovia: ey |
| 22:02.56 | beandog | hows it |
| 22:03.20 | supernovia | Oh you know. |
| 22:04.27 | beandog | that good, huh? |
| 22:04.29 | supernovia | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.19 | supernovia | and so is my soup |
| 22:06.47 | ninnypants | I don't think I'll ever have to deal with this http://clientsfromhell.tumblr.com/post/411841499/next-time-we-meet-you-might-wear-something-a |
| 22:07.03 | supernovia | d'oh |
| 22:08.17 | beandog | ninnypants: lol thats awesome |
| 22:08.21 | beandog | I just hope that wasn't for a guy. |
| 22:12.38 | influx | wonk |
| 22:13.54 | supernovia | I like this one: http://clientsfromhell.tumblr.com/post/409086409/client-can-you-re-touch-the-hat-off-the-man |
| 22:15.52 | ninnypants | there's one like that about a lamp too |
| 22:16.42 | ninnypants | I wish there was an easy way to move guides from illustrator to photoshop |
| 22:17.31 | supernovia | yeah, or even a way to move guides from one document to another.. a 'save guides' type feature |
| 22:17.49 | mindjuju | nah, it would make life too easy |
| 22:18.14 | ninnypants | yeah the zoom method I'm using is much better than drag and drop :) |
| 22:23.56 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/behindscenes/final_motor_test.html |
| 22:24.13 | SunSparc | They finally tweeted it, just for you. |
| 22:24.19 | DexterTheDragon | yeah saw the pics |
| 22:24.36 | DexterTheDragon | managed to catch it live on fox13 |
| 22:24.55 | supernovia | that is really cool. |
| 22:25.24 | DexterTheDragon | really wish I could have made it up |
| 22:25.45 | supernovia | heheh |
| 22:27.21 | SunSparc | Those clients from hell quotes are great. |
| 22:34.05 | beandog | They cant even get a file browser working right. |
| 22:35.57 | supernovia | what's going on with the file browser, beandog? |
| 22:36.11 | beandog | Well I wanted to watch the copy progress of a file |
| 22:36.14 | beandog | so I hit F5 |
| 22:36.30 | beandog | but it resorts the entire list so it starts back up at the beginning, instead of keeeping my focus |
| 22:36.33 | ninnypants | you refreshed? |
| 22:36.41 | supernovia | d'oh |
| 22:36.43 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: haha |
| 22:44.10 | ninnypants | ***narrowly avoided a photoshop crash |
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| 22:50.57 | brasto | The issue is resolved. |
| 22:51.09 | brasto | I think macnewbold actually suggested it earlier, but I'd forgotten |
| 22:51.39 | brasto | Commenting out all of welcome.conf was all that was needed since it's for a non-live site. |
| 22:51.58 | brasto | thanks everyone for your ideas and help. |
| 22:52.55 | supernovia | :) |
| 23:05.27 | carmony | ninnypants: photoshop IS the MOST painful program to have you crash on you :P |
| 23:08.03 | ninnypants | yeah I always forget to save |
| 23:08.39 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc: here's video from fox13 http://www.fox13now.com/news/kstu-utah-company-conducts-final-rocket-test,0,6364409.story |
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| 23:12.33 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: Cool, thanks! |
| 23:14.02 | supernovia | that is awesome :) |
| 23:16.07 | supernovia | the smoke cloud it makes is pretty interesting |
| 23:17.33 | DexterTheDragon | the last one they did my parents could see the cloud from their house in ogden |
| 23:19.43 | supernovia | that is cool. |
| 23:20.16 | supernovia | Man though, I wish I didn't think of the Challenger every time I saw rockets go off. Still. |
| 23:20.44 | SunSparc | supernovia: You need to watch the NASA channel more often. |
| 23:21.06 | DexterTheDragon | or soon enough we won't be doing it |
| 23:21.25 | supernovia | We were doing rocket projects after school with a group of like-minded geeks |
| 23:21.58 | supernovia | so it kinda hit hard. Yeah I really ought to at least tune in on the net more often. |
| 23:23.26 | SunSparc | It will help you get over it. They have. It was sad, every accident is, but the work goes on and those who do the work know the risks and have the courage to boldly go and do. |
| 23:26.05 | mindjuju | Sunsparc, Supernovia, that reminds me of this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JKIZ7j20EA |
| 23:26.17 | mindjuju | 100% no rickroll |
| 23:26.18 | supernovia | hehe yeah. I love the way you combined startrek and the bom there SunSparc |
| 23:26.44 | SunSparc | supernovia: ;) |
| 23:28.35 | stderr | http://www.picagon.com/view.aspx?fid=11311 |
| 23:28.47 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Good video. |
| 23:28.59 | supernovia | ah the memories mindjuju. The future doesn't belong to the faint hearted |
| 23:29.09 | DexterTheDragon | have you guys seen the prepped speech for Nixon if Neil Armstrong had gotten stuck on the moon? |
| 23:29.23 | SunSparc | stderr: That is awesome. Chokes me up. |
| 23:29.45 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: No. |
| 23:30.06 | DexterTheDragon | http://watergate.info/nixon/moon-disaster-speech-1969.shtml |
| 23:30.41 | supernovia | nice DexterTheDragon. |
| 23:30.56 | SunSparc | I am glad he never had to read that. |
| 23:32.25 | supernovia | Me too.. although if I had to be stuck anywhere.. |
| 23:33.29 | SunSparc | supernovia: Try this version http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Major+Tom/2CnEOI |
| 23:34.25 | supernovia | cool SunSparc :) |
| 23:34.36 | SunSparc | Yeah, I like it. |
| 23:34.59 | mindjuju | curious |
| 23:35.50 | SunSparc | Yep, GrooveShark rocks! |
| 23:35.53 | supernovia | yeah it's good times! |
| 23:36.11 | SunSparc | thesixtyone.com has been my recent addiction though |
| 23:36.31 | SunSparc | Since _psychic_ and stderr mentioned it. |
| 23:37.01 | supernovia | I checked that out but didn't set up account - guess you need one for it to work well? |
| 23:37.33 | SunSparc | To have real fun with it you need an account. |
| 23:37.50 | supernovia | did you guys see the cool WISE photos of andromeda? I'd missed them till last night |
| 23:38.06 | DexterTheDragon | those were cool supernovia |
| 23:38.08 | SunSparc | The site would not come up for me when I tried to view them. |
| 23:38.22 | DexterTheDragon | yeah I had to try again later |
| 23:38.36 | supernovia | I downloaded one of the tiffs. So cool. |
| 23:38.39 | DexterTheDragon | supernovia's link brought down their server |
| 23:38.42 | supernovia | hehe |
| 23:38.52 | SunSparc | lol |
| 23:41.33 | *** part/#uphpu mastergunns (~mastergun@70.90.213.14) |
| 23:43.22 | mindjuju | seems like i had mgeary translate this for me once |
| 23:43.22 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWvuB1vSsAc |
| 23:43.44 | mindjuju | way good song |
| 23:43.52 | mindjuju | no rickroll, honest! |
| 23:44.25 | supernovia | hehe, poor mindjuju must always qualify his youtube links with that |
| 23:44.45 | supernovia | after that tracer-t thing yesterday }:-/ |
| 23:45.10 | mindjuju | google translate is broke |
| 23:45.15 | mindjuju | it doesn't translate for me |
| 23:48.34 | supernovia | aisle can be singular or plural, right? |
| 23:49.05 | stderr | Aisles is the plural of aisle. |
| 23:50.38 | supernovia | oh I guess that makes sense. duh. |
| 23:50.40 | fungus | ~x en zh mindjuju |
| 23:50.42 | supernovia | :-p |
| 23:51.02 | fungus | ~x en zh lame |
| 23:51.13 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 23:51.25 | DexterTheDragon | ~x zh en èæ¿ |
| 23:51.33 | fungus | lol |
| 23:51.34 | DexterTheDragon | close |
| 23:51.38 | mindjuju | is it just me getting symbols? |
| 23:51.44 | PoeticIntensity | nope |
| 23:51.56 | fungus | get an irc client that supports UTF |
| 23:52.07 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: PoeticIntensity how is it back in 1994 |
| 23:52.27 | PoeticIntensity | groovy, baby.... |
| 23:52.28 | mindjuju | ~lart DtD |
| 23:52.28 | ibot | flings poo at DtD |
| 23:52.36 | PoeticIntensity | oh.. wait... that's a bit too far back. |
| 23:54.13 | redroy | Does anyone know how I could update this query, http://pastebin.com/W7nXm2Tu , to ignore "other" rows? It runs fine but anything I don't list in the CASE will go blank. |
| 23:54.19 | supernovia | "rad" might work. A word which I've found myself using way too often lately. |
| 23:55.34 | *** join/#uphpu P0eticIntens1ty (~jason@67.214.232.162) |
| 23:55.52 | P0eticIntens1ty | ~x en zh lame |
| 23:56.09 | P0eticIntens1ty | bah.... still boxes and I'm in UTF8 now... |
| 23:56.13 | P0eticIntens1ty | fail. |
| 23:56.24 | mindjuju | oh i love that map DtD |
| 23:56.36 | mindjuju | ihaven't played it in yrs |
| 23:56.42 | DexterTheDragon | ? |
| 23:56.59 | mindjuju | richard gibson posted a counterstrike vid |
| 23:57.01 | mindjuju | http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1356892076640&ref=nf |
| 23:57.10 | mindjuju | i haven't layed it in years |
| 23:57.13 | DexterTheDragon | oh yeah |
| 23:57.29 | DexterTheDragon | your both nerds then |
| 23:57.33 | *** join/#uphpu PoeticIntensity (~jason@67.214.232.162) |
| 23:57.33 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v PoeticIntensity] by ChanServ |
| 23:57.56 | PoeticIntensity | ~x en zh lame |
| 23:58.02 | PoeticIntensity | psh. |
| 23:58.05 | PoeticIntensity | xchat sucks. |
| 23:58.09 | PoeticIntensity | but I still love it. |