| 00:09.15 | *** join/#uphpu ibot (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 00:09.15 | *** topic/#UPHPU is Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org | Meeting was awesome! |
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| 00:09.56 | thebigdog | corbins i hear has a great prime rib dip sandwich |
| 00:11.28 | cycokilr | this guy has some pretty sweet mini-half plans if anyone happens to need them.. http://www.rickdahlen.com/hpplans/plans.html |
| 00:11.36 | cycokilr | i'm building one this spring in the side yard.. |
| 00:12.11 | thebigdog | next couple years i am building one for my son |
| 00:14.07 | cycokilr | yeah that's primarily why i'm building one.. for the boys.. but i'll probably end up riding it as much (if not more) than them.. ;) |
| 00:14.21 | thebigdog | that is awesome |
| 00:14.22 | cycokilr | well, and for the girls if they want to try it out too.. |
| 00:14.34 | cycokilr | two of the girls are under 2 so it'll be a while for them.. |
| 00:14.36 | thebigdog | yeah a mini would be perfect for it |
| 00:14.52 | cycokilr | but the oldest girl is 12 now.. and named "Ollie".. she might like it.. |
| 00:17.05 | cycokilr | hmm.. i like the grind rail plan he has in the pdf at the end.. but i think you could put the screws in at a lower angle so the holes aren't directly on top.. keep from catching them on your truck.. but i guess they wouldn't be that big anyway.. |
| 00:18.19 | herlo | carmony: would roosters work? |
| 00:20.16 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: it goes out at 7pm tonight |
| 00:20.22 | herlo | carmony: same for you ^^ |
| 00:20.47 | carmony | sure, Roosters is fine |
| 00:21.06 | herlo | :) |
| 00:23.00 | thebigdog | cycokilr: they are nice to go in at a horizontal angle too |
| 00:23.46 | cycokilr | yeah i think if you did the groove right you could put them pretty low.. |
| 00:24.00 | cycokilr | maybe i'll go home and make one of those tonight to try it.. |
| 00:41.41 | *** part/#uphpu mgeary (~mgeary@166.70.44.49) |
| 00:43.56 | cedwards | I just insteall pear::Mail, but I'm getting this error: PHP Fatal error: Call to undefined method Mail::factor() |
| 00:44.02 | cedwards | anyone know what else i might be missing? |
| 00:46.36 | thebigdog | fyi for all you ufc fans - http://www.cinemark.com/theater_showtimes.asp?theater_id=119&show_date=03/27/10 |
| 00:46.56 | cedwards | erg. typo is all. Mail::factory <-- |
| 00:47.08 | mp_ | sure it's not mail::factory()? |
| 00:47.15 | mp_ | :] |
| 00:48.17 | herlo | lol, not perl here |
| 00:49.19 | carmony | herlo: you heading up this way? :P |
| 00:49.35 | herlo | carmony: yeah, presenting at oalug |
| 00:49.44 | herlo | carmony: wanna grab foods afterward maybe? |
| 00:49.46 | herlo | or before |
| 00:50.08 | carmony | awww, I would, but I'm kinda swamped atm :P |
| 00:50.18 | herlo | carmony: come to oalug, or I'll call you afterward |
| 00:50.20 | cedwards | herlo: perl? i'm talking PHP (but I see where PEAR looks like CPAN) |
| 00:50.31 | herlo | cedwards: I know |
| 00:50.41 | carmony | well, let me see.... |
| 00:50.43 | herlo | but I'm almost certain mp_ implied that was perl |
| 00:50.49 | herlo | but I could be wrong |
| 00:51.15 | herlo | carmony: k, I have to get on the road in a minute. Feel free to text me though, or call. |
| 00:51.19 | carmony | ok |
| 00:51.26 | herlo | pm'd you my phone # |
| 00:51.36 | carmony | k |
| 00:51.37 | herlo | carmony: ^^ |
| 00:51.39 | herlo | hehe |
| 00:51.41 | carmony | gotcha :) |
| 00:51.42 | herlo | ttyl |
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| 01:29.00 | mindjuju | sure could go for some pizza |
| 01:29.20 | mindjuju | ...sigh... ramen |
| 01:29.22 | mindjuju | :( |
| 01:29.38 | supernovia | :-( |
| 01:29.44 | supernovia | You could have some of our bean soup |
| 01:29.56 | mindjuju | bean soup sounds good |
| 01:29.57 | romanovic | mindjuju, still at work? |
| 01:30.03 | mindjuju | sadly so |
| 01:30.11 | mindjuju | i'll prolly be here for another hour |
| 01:30.15 | mindjuju | then go to testing center |
| 01:30.18 | mindjuju | take a math test |
| 01:30.25 | mindjuju | you? |
| 01:30.40 | supernovia | You have a pantry at work? and yeah the bean soup was great; 10 beans with ham + bread and butter |
| 01:30.49 | romanovic | yep, but leaving in a min |
| 01:31.26 | supernovia | good luck on the math test.. |
| 01:31.34 | mindjuju | i went to a dentist today so i came to work late |
| 01:32.01 | mindjuju | man those guys only know 2 price levels, pricey and HOLY CRAP! |
| 01:32.09 | romanovic | ah |
| 01:32.18 | romanovic | and good luck finding food |
| 01:32.28 | romanovic | ~give mindjuju pizza |
| 01:32.29 | ibot | ACTION gives pizza to mindjuju |
| 01:32.34 | mindjuju | thx! |
| 01:33.01 | supernovia | totally hear you on the dentist.. did you have to get anything done? |
| 01:33.18 | supernovia | have fun romanovic-afk! |
| 01:33.20 | mindjuju | yes and no |
| 01:33.33 | mindjuju | yes, i do have stuff to get done at dentist, no, didn't do it today |
| 01:33.37 | supernovia | ah |
| 01:33.45 | mindjuju | it was first time consultation |
| 01:33.47 | supernovia | I haven't had a checkup in too long |
| 01:33.54 | mindjuju | yeah, sadly same here |
| 01:33.56 | mindjuju | years |
| 01:34.09 | mindjuju | the doc was going on and on about bridges and implants |
| 01:34.12 | supernovia | same. But, last time I went they just told me to floss more |
| 01:34.16 | supernovia | Oh wow. |
| 01:34.19 | supernovia | Do you want to do all that? |
| 01:34.27 | mindjuju | and then I was totally like, dude, price is a MAJOR issue |
| 01:34.39 | mindjuju | then he kinda frowned a bit, and stopped |
| 01:34.45 | supernovia | (last time I went I'd also fiercely flossed and it made my gums swell for a day or so) |
| 01:34.57 | supernovia | That sucks. |
| 01:35.16 | carmony | ping utahcon |
| 01:35.24 | mindjuju | well, when I has as much money as donald trump, i'll get the spendy stuff |
| 01:35.36 | mindjuju | right now though, just get me some of them wooden teeth |
| 01:36.08 | supernovia | Gold teeth would be cooler. |
| 01:36.27 | supernovia | More pricey though I am sure. |
| 01:36.29 | mindjuju | at these prices? |
| 01:36.47 | supernovia | Seriously though what happened that he's talking bridges and all that? |
| 01:37.22 | mindjuju | got in this huge fight with a charles atlas, and he all hit me across the chops with the jawbone of an ass and well... |
| 01:37.47 | supernovia | And so it goes eh :) |
| 01:38.31 | mindjuju | i'm down a tooth, the roots are there but the top isn't |
| 01:38.41 | mindjuju | and they need to extract, and prvent tooth shift |
| 01:38.46 | supernovia | d'oh. |
| 01:38.55 | supernovia | Could you use a spacer for the time being? |
| 01:39.28 | mindjuju | what kind of spacer? |
| 01:39.40 | supernovia | Mary wears one - it's just a temp spacer |
| 01:40.03 | supernovia | a little wire thing that fits around one tooth and pushes against the next tooth so the gap where a tooth ought to be stays put |
| 01:40.19 | mindjuju | ah |
| 01:40.24 | mindjuju | how long do they last? |
| 01:40.27 | supernovia | For her it's so she can keep the space until the new tooth grows in |
| 01:40.36 | supernovia | A few years at least.. |
| 01:40.57 | supernovia | For you, you could keep it till getting an implant would make more sense financially |
| 01:42.10 | mindjuju | :) |
| 01:42.21 | mindjuju | i need to take better care of my teeth |
| 01:43.21 | supernovia | I'm trying to take good care of mine :-D |
| 01:48.45 | mindjuju | so how are things going for you supernovia? |
| 01:48.58 | mindjuju | did you see we have spring break 4 weeks from this wednesday? |
| 01:48.59 | supernovia | Pretty good - got a decent test score today |
| 01:49.07 | mindjuju | what class? |
| 01:49.14 | supernovia | having to set up a tabular layout for an email *sigh* |
| 01:49.31 | supernovia | Marketing. The last test was terrible, so I was surprised when this one went as well as it did |
| 01:49.44 | supernovia | Last time there were really awful multiple choice questions like, |
| 01:50.03 | supernovia | "Survey data must be:" a) accurate b) valid c) correct d) ... |
| 01:50.18 | mindjuju | yuck |
| 01:50.23 | mindjuju | trick questions |
| 01:50.25 | mindjuju | i hate those |
| 01:50.37 | supernovia | Yeah, basically "I don't care if you understand the concept or not; I want you to memorize the textbook word for word!" |
| 01:50.43 | supernovia | More than half of the class failed that one |
| 01:51.21 | supernovia | and it's a big class as UVU goes... at least 50 students |
| 01:51.26 | cedwards | I hate professors who are that specific. |
| 01:51.44 | supernovia | Well, this one is a newbie professor and was just testing from the test bank questions |
| 01:52.08 | mindjuju | what a punk! |
| 01:52.24 | supernovia | Yeah, we complained |
| 01:53.13 | supernovia | I talked to him personally as well - I got 87% |
| 01:53.46 | supernovia | highest score..and it was still not even an A and I really worked hard on it |
| 01:54.34 | supernovia | He ended up giving everyone 10 percentage points and also decided to drop one test score. And then he really worked on this test we took today so it wasn't as terrible |
| 01:56.11 | mindjuju | :) |
| 01:56.58 | supernovia | there was one super silly question though: essentially, Which one of these items is out of order? 1 2 5 3 or 5 ? |
| 01:57.16 | supernovia | er, 1 2 4 3 5 --- so two of them were out of order really |
| 01:58.36 | supernovia | most of the questions were crazy like that last time though, so this was good. |
| 01:59.24 | supernovia | and yeah cedwards I hate professors like that too. I have had a few who are like that on purpose and I think it's a joke |
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| 02:03.40 | supernovia | Sucks that later versions of Outlooks support less CSS than older versions. Not that html email is my thing...but having to use tables to get a consistent layout is even less so |
| 02:03.59 | mindjuju | yup |
| 02:04.04 | mindjuju | i hate HTML emails |
| 02:05.37 | cedwards | HTML is particularly a pain when you use mutt |
| 02:06.07 | cedwards | I think HTML email is pretty much on par with IE6 in terms of abominations ;) |
| 02:06.15 | supernovia | hehe |
| 02:07.25 | cedwards | I find I get more opinionated the older I get, and when it comes to tech stuff I'm a crochety old man! |
| 02:08.39 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 02:09.02 | supernovia1 | the idea then was that it was supposed to display text to clients that wouldn't read the html |
| 02:09.12 | supernovia1 | silly dropped connection.. brb |
| 02:09.23 | mindjuju | wait wait, there are two supernovias? |
| 02:10.46 | supernovia1 | I wish |
| 02:11.31 | supernovia1 | I was thinking about that the other day; one of me could keep the apartment clean and manage the finances, the other could go to school and hang out with the kiddos |
| 02:11.44 | mindjuju | :) |
| 02:11.57 | cedwards | back on the topic of teaching, when I teach I am of the mindset that it is my job to help convey principles in an understandable way. |
| 02:12.09 | supernovia1 | but then I got to thinking about The Prestige and it kinda freaked me out. |
| 02:12.16 | cedwards | if the class is not understanding a principle, it is _my_ fault. I don't leave that on students and move on. |
| 02:12.18 | supernovia1 | Good, cedwards |
| 02:12.32 | supernovia1 | Well, -some- students aren't going to try at all |
| 02:12.39 | mindjuju | ~wiki the prestige |
| 02:12.47 | supernovia1 | but if your best and brightest aren't getting it there's a problem |
| 02:12.57 | cedwards | there are always exceptions, and you can spot them pretty quickly. |
| 02:13.14 | cedwards | supernovia1: the problem is you. you're not doing your job. |
| 02:13.52 | cedwards | supernovia: (as the teacher, of course) |
| 02:13.59 | supernovia | Right. |
| 02:14.21 | supernovia | That is why I am not a teacher. |
| 02:14.52 | supernovia | I felt awful when people didn't get it and decided it was just me |
| 02:14.59 | cedwards | I really love teaching. Maybe I have a knack for it though.. |
| 02:15.27 | supernovia | If you love it, you probably do |
| 02:15.40 | supernovia | My mom is a great teacher |
| 02:17.48 | mindjuju | as it's just another review day anyways |
| 02:18.16 | supernovia | do you have to pay the $3? |
| 02:18.19 | mindjuju | give me a chance to study tonight and get things done |
| 02:18.24 | mindjuju | yup, $3 charge |
| 02:18.27 | mindjuju | punks |
| 02:18.33 | supernovia | yeah |
| 02:18.45 | supernovia | sometimes that $3 is worth the extra study time though |
| 02:18.57 | mindjuju | yup |
| 02:19.04 | supernovia | I usually pay it too, for weekend tests, since $3 < cost of a sitter |
| 02:19.47 | supernovia | lots of my classes have Friday/Saturday = Free; Monday =$3 |
| 02:20.28 | supernovia | which is fine when my kids are on their weekends away.. |
| 02:20.44 | mindjuju | :) |
| 02:22.04 | cedwards | I started listening to tag/Classical today on last.fm and I'm enjoying it much more than I expected. |
| 02:23.04 | supernovia | I <3 classical |
| 02:29.18 | supernovia | ah, found the multipart thing I was talking about - wonder if this helps in mutt? http://www.wilsonweb.com/wmt5/html-email-multi.htm |
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| 02:33.42 | TuxToaster | evening everyone. Finally decided to get on IRC :-) |
| 02:35.43 | supernovia | Hey TuxToaster! |
| 02:35.44 | supernovia | :-D |
| 02:35.56 | TuxToaster | aha, there is life! |
| 02:36.04 | TuxToaster | how's it going? |
| 02:36.12 | supernovia | There is. Just much less in the evenings when I'm around :) |
| 02:36.17 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 02:36.27 | supernovia | Good! Just made sure my *choke* tabular html email layout *choke* worked okay |
| 02:36.57 | TuxToaster | haha. I hate the fact that email clients won't work well with CSS |
| 02:37.06 | supernovia | Yeah really |
| 02:37.26 | supernovia | Look at this chart for example: http://www.campaignmonitor.com/css/ |
| 02:37.36 | TuxToaster | yup I have that chart on my wall at work |
| 02:37.56 | supernovia | Outlook 2007 supports less than 2003 |
| 02:38.04 | TuxToaster | I found it a couple of months ago when I was looking at updating some html emails |
| 02:38.38 | supernovia | Well, I'd figured times were modern; I would accomplish the layout with as little markup as possible, and all of it meant to degrade nicely |
| 02:39.38 | supernovia | but it didn't fly. Now it will, at least; hopefully this client's system supports multi-part |
| 02:39.40 | TuxToaster | well, tables do degrade nicely.... kind of |
| 02:40.15 | supernovia | I think tables are awful to read as plain text |
| 02:41.20 | TuxToaster | you'd love the system I have to work with. The entire layout is made up of 4 or so? nested tables |
| 02:41.59 | TuxToaster | so naturally, you have to readjust EVERYTHING any time you want to change something on the page. |
| 02:42.02 | TuxToaster | hehe yup. |
| 02:42.05 | supernovia | I used to rock the tables back in the 90s. Hate it when I've had to use them since then though |
| 02:42.30 | supernovia | oh man, my kids are weird |
| 02:42.46 | supernovia | my boy just named his airplane "Ethan the Beef Casserole" |
| 02:42.47 | mindjuju | what did they do? |
| 02:42.56 | mindjuju | nice! |
| 02:43.01 | TuxToaster | I've tossed around some ideas for new layout skeletons we could use... but given recent events, it looks like I might not stick around there long enough to put them in to motion :( |
| 02:43.07 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 02:43.11 | supernovia | Uh oh, what's up? |
| 02:43.34 | TuxToaster | sounds like he could make extra on flights |
| 02:43.41 | TuxToaster | *meal is included in the name* |
| 02:43.43 | supernovia | hehe, they're a couple of nuts |
| 02:44.12 | supernovia | and, this (airplane contests while I polish up work?) is why my apartment looks non-fabulous. but I figure it'll be worth it |
| 02:44.26 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 02:45.24 | supernovia | mindjuju: I am always laughing at the nutty stuff your kid says too, that your wife quotes on FB |
| 02:45.36 | supernovia | sweeet! |
| 02:45.41 | TuxToaster | wow |
| 02:46.03 | mindjuju | it was one of those days we had scheduled for tracting, out of miles for our car and it was a tornado warning |
| 02:46.08 | mindjuju | so we were stuck |
| 02:46.35 | supernovia | Good use of your time, Elder! |
| 02:46.45 | TuxToaster | sounds like the perfect way to pass time. |
| 02:46.52 | supernovia | (my brother played risk when they were grounded to their apartments for a week) |
| 02:46.59 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 02:47.13 | mindjuju | i was actually trying to find a way to make a b52 |
| 02:47.16 | mindjuju | but never finished |
| 02:47.22 | supernovia | You know, I was sad I missed out on the paper airplane contest at UTOS |
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| 02:47.33 | TuxToaster | I was sad I missed out on UTOS |
| 02:47.33 | supernovia | We should have one for the parents next year too |
| 02:47.44 | TuxToaster | and last week's meeting |
| 02:47.44 | mindjuju | :) |
| 02:47.45 | supernovia | you should be, man that was a good time |
| 02:47.46 | mindjuju | true that |
| 02:47.57 | herlo | lol, you guys are awesome! |
| 02:48.11 | TuxToaster | my last few weeks have been bittersweet: spent a couple weeks in the Bahamas |
| 02:48.15 | supernovia | in the parents contest, judge on multiple goals: most loops, best aim, etc. |
| 02:48.34 | supernovia | Whoah! Okay, I -might- have been willing to miss UPHPU for that. Maybe :) |
| 02:48.40 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 02:48.57 | TuxToaster | I was ready to come home though. Long trip... and I was there mostly for work. |
| 02:49.17 | supernovia | uh oh, there goes my internal jukebox |
| 02:49.24 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 02:49.33 | supernovia | *so hoist up the John B sails...* |
| 02:49.45 | mindjuju | beach boy song |
| 02:49.52 | mindjuju | uh, sloop john b? |
| 02:49.59 | TuxToaster | Not familiar with that one |
| 02:50.09 | TuxToaster | I did listen to Carribean Blue by Enya. |
| 02:50.19 | TuxToaster | seemed fitting |
| 02:50.28 | supernovia | Sweet |
| 02:50.44 | TuxToaster | most of the rest of the soundtrack for the trip was listening to one of the other guys' Muse CD on repeat. |
| 02:51.52 | supernovia | w00t |
| 02:52.33 | supernovia | My friend bought me tickets to the concert in April :-D |
| 02:52.33 | TuxToaster | nice |
| 02:52.33 | supernovia | although I guess after listening on repeat you might be sick of it |
| 02:52.33 | mindjuju | what concert? |
| 02:52.33 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 02:52.33 | TuxToaster | nah it could be worse |
| 02:52.34 | supernovia | I really like them though; they do interesting stuff |
| 02:52.44 | supernovia | mindjuju: Muse |
| 02:52.54 | mindjuju | ~wiki muse |
| 02:52.57 | supernovia | so we're having girl's night out on a Monday |
| 02:53.03 | mindjuju | i mean, i know what a muse is |
| 02:53.09 | mindjuju | yup, greek mytho |
| 02:53.18 | supernovia | Okay so, TuxToaster: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Sloop+John+B/AvXGQ -- Sloop John B |
| 02:53.39 | TuxToaster | you and your grooveshark :P |
| 02:53.55 | supernovia | mindjuju: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Supermassive+Black+Hole/2oov2L |
| 02:54.00 | TuxToaster | I had *real* sharks in the Bahamas. so there. |
| 02:54.05 | supernovia | sweet |
| 02:54.40 | supernovia | This song of theirs is a little less original; I like the one that sounds a bit like Dr.Who (old school version) |
| 02:54.48 | supernovia | oh and from way back when, thanks herlo :) |
| 02:55.28 | TuxToaster | paying bills, brb. (should've really finished that this weekend) |
| 02:58.01 | supernovia | this one is the Dr. Who-ish with it's nice 6/8 and wooowooo sounds: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Uprising/2CiNub |
| 02:58.18 | supernovia | s/it's/its/ |
| 02:58.44 | TuxToaster | nice. the bot corrects you. |
| 02:58.59 | carmony | ping utahcon :P |
| 02:59.03 | supernovia | no it doesn't! |
| 02:59.12 | supernovia | s/no it doesn't!/yes it does!/ |
| 02:59.17 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 02:59.51 | supernovia | alright, I gotta get my punk beef-casserole throwing (?) kids to bed |
| 03:00.02 | mindjuju | :) |
| 03:00.06 | TuxToaster | grab the oven mits |
| 03:00.11 | TuxToaster | you're going to need them. |
| 03:00.17 | supernovia | :-D |
| 03:05.34 | supermom | better. |
| 03:06.01 | mindjuju | :) |
| 03:06.04 | TuxToaster | anyone else ever notice the really weird stock photos that companies put up on their sites to make them "hip" ? |
| 03:06.32 | TuxToaster | usually have very little to do with the actual site |
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| 03:38.18 | supermom | I have noticed that, TuxToaster. Funky stuff out there. Trendiness can be so silly. |
| 03:38.30 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 03:45.43 | supernovia | ohman. |
| 03:46.10 | supernovia | now I've got a fever to boot, no more pretending I'm not sick |
| 03:46.15 | TuxToaster | :( |
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| 03:46.33 | TuxToaster | coughing as well? |
| 03:46.35 | supernovia | and this cough syrup I bought? The cashier had to make sure I was over 18 |
| 03:46.50 | DexterTheDragon | are you? |
| 03:47.04 | supernovia | aye |
| 03:47.11 | supernovia | (alas) |
| 03:47.26 | DexterTheDragon | must be some good caugh syrup |
| 03:47.27 | TuxToaster | hey if they have to check, that at least says something about your looks ;-) |
| 03:47.29 | supernovia | so it turns out this stuff can essentially make a person stoned |
| 03:47.49 | supernovia | hehe, well he didn't make me pull my license, so whatever THAT says.. |
| 03:48.00 | TuxToaster | hehe |
| 03:48.16 | TuxToaster | sounds like I could use some of that stuff. |
| 03:48.20 | supernovia | but here's the thing, so I was thinking about homework and workwork and whatnot while I was putting the kids to bed |
| 03:48.27 | TuxToaster | I've had a dry cough I've been trying to kick for weeks |
| 03:48.54 | supernovia | ugh, you need guaifenissin? + dextromorph...something |
| 03:49.03 | supernovia | + DexterTheDragon |
| 03:49.38 | TuxToaster | I've had that stuff before yup. |
| 03:49.40 | supernovia | I was thinking, gee, I think I should probably wait till tomorrow and I think that would be OK.Welp,just remembered I've got a week's worth of web design homework tocrank out |
| 03:50.05 | supernovia | I think it's the Dextrosomethingsomething that messes with your head, btw. |
| 03:50.20 | TuxToaster | ouchies. homework != fun |
| 03:50.31 | supernovia | (I remembered it AFTER I took the mind altering cough syrup) |
| 03:50.48 | TuxToaster | to me, programming, web design, etc. etc. are more fun if you *want* to do them |
| 03:51.06 | supernovia | yeah.. |
| 03:52.05 | TuxToaster | I have a really hard time not getting distracted with homework hehe |
| 03:55.32 | supernovia | how embarrassing; I have to post the super crappy comps I did last week |
| 03:55.45 | TuxToaster | :( |
| 03:58.26 | TuxToaster | general question: how do you apply for (or interview for) a new job and successfully include your most recent position on your resume |
| 03:59.17 | TuxToaster | but prevent contact to that employer because you know you'll get a bad reference |
| 03:59.46 | supernovia | hmmm, good question |
| 04:00.09 | supernovia | although I would say if your prospective employer wants to contact your current employer, they will |
| 04:00.13 | TuxToaster | yeah. seems like you get shunned if you request not to contact an employer |
| 04:00.37 | mindjuju | beandog, you around? |
| 04:00.44 | beandog | mindjuju: yah |
| 04:00.46 | supernovia | I'd focus instead on what you want to say |
| 04:00.54 | supernovia | should they bring the old employer up. |
| 04:00.57 | supernovia | howdy beandog. :) |
| 04:01.02 | beandog | supernovia: o hai |
| 04:01.10 | supernovia | :-D |
| 04:01.11 | mindjuju | look what i found while looking for something to watch wile coding |
| 04:01.12 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvIHXpnQ_o8 |
| 04:01.15 | TuxToaster | I'm almost to the point where I don't care... but I know for a fact that the guy I work for talks down about people when they decide to leave. |
| 04:01.18 | mindjuju | 100% no rick roll guarantee |
| 04:01.31 | beandog | mindjuju: you at work? |
| 04:01.48 | TuxToaster | and the main reason I'm looking is because he treats us like crap :( |
| 04:02.17 | supernovia | that's rough TuxToaster |
| 04:02.27 | mindjuju | yup |
| 04:02.28 | beandog | mindjuju: nice, Ive already got the complete series on DVD tho |
| 04:02.35 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: you look for some strange crap to watch while coding |
| 04:02.42 | supernovia | heheh |
| 04:02.43 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: lol |
| 04:03.05 | mindjuju | DtD - you're sad |
| 04:03.50 | DexterTheDragon | i have a bucket of ice cream |
| 04:03.53 | TuxToaster | supernovia: yup. I've stuck it out for a year now, but I don't think I can handle much more emotionally. |
| 04:04.01 | DexterTheDragon | there's no way i'm sad |
| 04:04.09 | mindjuju | oh man |
| 04:04.11 | TuxToaster | not to mention the ultimate evil: we don't code in PHP. ;-) |
| 04:04.12 | mindjuju | i totally forgot |
| 04:04.17 | beandog | DexterTheDragon needs a hug |
| 04:04.21 | mindjuju | supernovia, you didn't see this link before |
| 04:04.25 | mindjuju | you HAVE TO watch this |
| 04:04.37 | mindjuju | charlei the unicorn ^10 < this |
| 04:04.40 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wouG4GpL1-I |
| 04:04.50 | supernovia | hugbags exist? |
| 04:05.00 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: http://tinyurl.com/yj3zyt2 |
| 04:05.02 | beandog | ROFLMAO |
| 04:05.04 | beandog | oh, man |
| 04:05.04 | beandog | :D |
| 04:05.22 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: no thanks |
| 04:05.24 | supernovia | Oh noes! is this for real mindjuju? |
| 04:05.41 | mindjuju | you should see it all |
| 04:05.44 | mindjuju | there is a finale song |
| 04:05.47 | mindjuju | it's amazing! |
| 04:05.52 | beandog | oh man |
| 04:05.54 | beandog | I gotta work |
| 04:06.19 | supernovia | Mean,who wouldn't love a Pegasus pony that sings and crumples its legs? |
| 04:06.28 | supernovia | s/Mean/Man/ |
| 04:06.42 | mindjuju | :) |
| 04:06.53 | mindjuju | if you can't stand it, forward to near the end |
| 04:06.56 | mindjuju | so you can see the finale |
| 04:07.25 | supernovia | that pony is feisty! |
| 04:08.26 | supernovia | and its wings only apparently work on the hind legs.. |
| 04:08.48 | mindjuju | :) |
| 04:08.53 | mindjuju | better than charlie, huh? |
| 04:09.10 | beandog | no. |
| 04:09.15 | supernovia | I dunno, that candy song Beandog stuck on my computer is is pretty catchy |
| 04:09.25 | beandog | :D |
| 04:09.28 | beandog | supernovia: make it your ringtone |
| 04:09.29 | supernovia | Wow, these guys are catty too! |
| 04:09.30 | mindjuju | but the finalie! |
| 04:09.32 | supernovia | hehe |
| 04:09.48 | supernovia | my awesome Motorolla doesn't play mp3s |
| 04:09.58 | beandog | really? |
| 04:10.00 | beandog | mine did. |
| 04:10.09 | beandog | which phone do you have |
| 04:10.31 | supernovia | really really old |
| 04:10.40 | mindjuju | i wish i had a taco |
| 04:10.40 | supernovia | let me see.. |
| 04:10.44 | beandog | is it a StarTAC? |
| 04:11.09 | supernovia | d'oh,just realized my jeans are in the hamper, with the phone in them. This is why I don't get a good phone |
| 04:11.14 | beandog | LOL |
| 04:13.47 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 04:14.00 | supernovia | scp2400? Ok, this is sanyo not motorolla actually |
| 04:14.25 | TuxToaster | will a StarTAC even work anymore? |
| 04:14.57 | TuxToaster | the Sanyo doesn't look to be quite that old |
| 04:15.12 | TuxToaster | 2006 actually |
| 04:15.39 | supernovia | I totally want to get Mario ringtones for this though |
| 04:15.46 | beandog | TuxToaster: I think so |
| 04:15.52 | supernovia | like, coin sounds when I get a txt.. |
| 04:16.04 | supernovia | dying sound when it shuts down.. |
| 04:18.17 | supernovia | speeding up sound for an alarm.. |
| 04:19.17 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 04:19.29 | TuxToaster | I seriously want to do that on my iPhone. |
| 04:19.42 | TuxToaster | but alas, the iPhone doesn't let you customize text sounds |
| 04:20.06 | TuxToaster | supernovia: will it do custom ringtones at all? |
| 04:20.11 | TuxToaster | like the polyphonic ones? |
| 04:20.31 | TuxToaster | might not take regular MP3s, but you can sometimes find a utility to convert them |
| 04:20.39 | supernovia | I'm sure it will. I haven't downloaded any though since they're just polyphonic, and, since my phones don't last so long anyway :-p |
| 04:21.42 | TuxToaster | hehe. I think one of the most durable phones I've seen is the Samsung that Cingular used to give out for free... we had one that got washed like 3 different times |
| 04:22.20 | supernovia | I am really bad about losing/washing/dropping/ruining these things. What I really need is a communicator badge with a bluetooth earpiece! |
| 04:22.44 | supernovia | s/communicator/washable communicator/ |
| 04:24.28 | beandog | whee |
| 04:25.21 | supernovia | :-) |
| 04:26.49 | beandog | soooooooo much work to do |
| 04:26.50 | beandog | plop |
| 04:27.44 | mindjuju | uh beandog |
| 04:27.51 | supernovia | and you just finished? :) |
| 04:27.54 | beandog | no |
| 04:27.55 | mindjuju | you're not typing to us, while in the bathroom right? |
| 04:27.58 | beandog | I havent even started |
| 04:28.04 | beandog | mindjuju: gah no |
| 04:28.06 | beandog | Id never do that. |
| 04:28.16 | supernovia | heheh |
| 04:29.41 | beandog | thats why you ninja pee |
| 04:30.01 | TuxToaster | can't find it now but I *know* I saw a bluetooth communicator pin at one point |
| 04:30.19 | TuxToaster | LOL |
| 04:31.09 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: whats behind curtain #1? |
| 04:31.13 | supernovia | yeah I just did too :-/ |
| 04:31.16 | beandog | lol |
| 04:31.20 | beandog | the power of suggestion++ |
| 04:31.37 | DexterTheDragon | a lot of hacking |
| 04:31.38 | DexterTheDragon | http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2009/11/star_trek_bluetooth_communicator.html |
| 04:32.30 | supernovia | Yeah, but I need the TNG communicators |
| 04:35.26 | supernovia | woo, I think that cough syrup be kickin in |
| 04:35.38 | mindjuju | codine based? |
| 04:35.45 | beandog | can you smell colors? |
| 04:36.09 | supernovia | woo |
| 04:36.14 | DexterTheDragon | I hate the way purple smells |
| 04:36.24 | supernovia | you kiddin? I think it'sawesome |
| 04:36.28 | beandog | My mouth tastes like burning! |
| 04:36.36 | mindjuju | love the simpsosn |
| 04:36.40 | supernovia | You know, this cough syrup did burn on the way down |
| 04:36.40 | beandog | :) |
| 04:36.49 | beandog | mindjuju: I was wondering if someone would catch that |
| 04:36.54 | beandog | ~mindjuju++ |
| 04:36.55 | mindjuju | it's prolly nyqol |
| 04:37.07 | TuxToaster | beandog: can you smell colors? <--- lol |
| 04:37.10 | mindjuju | did you put a little umbrella in the cough syrup measure cap? |
| 04:37.23 | supernovia | this one's alcoholy free |
| 04:37.30 | mindjuju | sure sure |
| 04:37.34 | supernovia | but it has something else in it |
| 04:37.36 | mindjuju | try to light it on fire |
| 04:37.44 | mindjuju | but stand back |
| 04:37.47 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 04:37.51 | TuxToaster | always a good test |
| 04:37.52 | mindjuju | :) |
| 04:37.56 | supernovia | oo I think I"d have a hard time luggin the kids out of the apartment like htis |
| 04:38.14 | mindjuju | yeah, prolly not a good idea to drive whilst drowsy |
| 04:38.35 | beandog | I do it all the time |
| 04:38.38 | TuxToaster | her typing is starting to go, I wouldn't trrrrust driving. hehe |
| 04:38.39 | mindjuju | which by the way, why don't americans use the word whilst? i love the word |
| 04:38.45 | mindjuju | i'm going to use it every day |
| 04:38.50 | TuxToaster | wow. that was a bad time for the keyboard to stick. |
| 04:39.00 | TuxToaster | I guess I really don't have much room to talk now. |
| 04:39.02 | supernovia | I know lots of americans who say whilst |
| 04:39.13 | supernovia | lol TuxToaster |
| 04:39.17 | mindjuju | well, now i'm one of those americans |
| 04:39.22 | supernovia | actually my keyboard is being silly |
| 04:39.39 | supernovia | the guys who wrote Alien Hand Syndrome talk like that |
| 04:39.44 | supernovia | and always have.. |
| 04:40.08 | mindjuju | put your hfingger on your nose and walk a straight line whilst saying the alphabet qwerty style |
| 04:40.17 | supernovia | qwerty style! |
| 04:40.23 | mindjuju | yup |
| 04:40.26 | mindjuju | qwerty |
| 04:40.27 | supernovia | man, I dothink Ineedtogo to bed |
| 04:40.42 | TuxToaster | too bad I have to work tomorrow |
| 04:40.48 | DexterTheDragon | words are starting to run together |
| 04:40.55 | mindjuju | she's loosing it |
| 04:40.57 | TuxToaster | I miss staying up on IRC all night while high on meds. |
| 04:40.58 | TuxToaster | hehe |
| 04:41.17 | cedwards | TuxToaster: "meds". suuuure ;) |
| 04:41.21 | mindjuju | i'm leaving here in 19 minutes, if i'm finsiehd or not |
| 04:41.23 | beandog | I doubt people would notice a difference if I was high or not. |
| 04:41.31 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 04:41.41 | TuxToaster | I get loopy off of Robitussin |
| 04:41.41 | supernovia | I think you should just go |
| 04:41.46 | supernovia | olo beandog |
| 04:42.00 | mindjuju | if i leave at 10p, i can catch coast to coast am |
| 04:42.03 | mindjuju | with goerge norey |
| 04:42.05 | supernovia | yeah I get loopy too on anything |
| 04:42.10 | beandog | Actually, when I get *really* loopy, its a little freaky to be around me. |
| 04:42.12 | beandog | tbh. |
| 04:42.34 | mindjuju | like what happens? |
| 04:42.40 | supernovia | man though, my head is still stuffy, just in a non-functioning kind of way! |
| 04:42.53 | beandog | mindjuju: well, I get a little loose lipped |
| 04:43.26 | supernovia | or tried anyway |
| 04:43.42 | beandog | anyway |
| 04:43.48 | beandog | believe it or not, I reign a lot of stuff in, heh |
| 04:43.50 | mindjuju | beandog - like buffer overflow? |
| 04:43.55 | mindjuju | you just start spewing stuff? |
| 04:44.03 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 04:44.23 | mindjuju | we could totally start to upload commands like giveWallet() |
| 04:44.33 | beandog | heh |
| 04:44.42 | mindjuju | heh |
| 04:45.05 | cedwards | stop distracting me guys. i have to teach in the morning and i'm not ready <pout/> |
| 04:46.01 | mindjuju | eggyknap |
| 04:46.03 | mindjuju | how goes it |
| 04:46.21 | cedwards | eggyknap: there is off button? |
| 04:46.42 | TuxToaster | there is, but it's a placebo. |
| 04:47.48 | mindjuju | k, finished that project, just one last thing to do |
| 04:47.50 | mindjuju | 12 minutes to do it |
| 04:51.13 | beandog | 9 more minutes |
| 04:51.18 | beandog | lets see if we can't distract him |
| 04:51.21 | beandog | quick, find youtube videos! |
| 04:51.39 | mindjuju | i shall resist |
| 04:51.45 | mindjuju | i'm made of sterner stuff! |
| 04:52.20 | supernovia | sternstuff |
| 04:52.46 | beandog | I dunno |
| 04:52.55 | mindjuju | In fact, about the only thing that could distract me is prolly a music video from the 80s that i haven't seen in a LONG time |
| 04:52.58 | beandog | after that ponical today, Im not sure waht youre made of. |
| 04:54.04 | mindjuju | cya eggyknap |
| 04:54.08 | mindjuju | 6 minutes |
| 04:54.10 | eggyknap | :) |
| 04:54.22 | beandog | mindjuju: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4 |
| 04:54.34 | mindjuju | meh, saw that the other day |
| 04:54.47 | mindjuju | it's got to be rare |
| 04:54.49 | beandog | boy you are hard to please. |
| 04:54.51 | beandog | rare, huh |
| 04:55.05 | beandog | ibot: mindjuju also likes ponicals |
| 04:55.11 | beandog | argh |
| 04:55.15 | beandog | ibot: mindjuju is also likes ponicals |
| 04:55.15 | ibot | okay, beandog |
| 04:55.22 | beandog | ~mindjuju |
| 04:55.23 | ibot | [mindjuju] sleeping with his left eye open, or insane, or a windows system administrator *GASP*, or the Prophet of Breakbeats, or sweat sexy hawtness, or a Texan, or wears his snuggie in the buff, or has a thing for hawt sitcom moms, or likes ponicals |
| 04:55.33 | beandog | snuggie in the buff? LMAO |
| 04:55.48 | supernovia | lol |
| 04:55.52 | cedwards | where would we be without bots |
| 04:55.53 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 04:55.53 | mindjuju | wait, whut? |
| 04:56.03 | mindjuju | oh that's nasty |
| 04:56.08 | mindjuju | ~beandog |
| 04:56.09 | ibot | somebody said beandog was the gentoo guru, or a wannabe racer. a skater. the enlightened one, or <3 Janeway, or a non-girl, or has a large intestine filled with mealworms |
| 04:56.19 | mindjuju | ~supernovia |
| 04:56.20 | ibot | i guess supernovia is an enigma wrapped in a riddle, or a happy mother of two awesome kiddos |
| 04:56.30 | supernovia | I guess? |
| 04:56.32 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 04:56.38 | mindjuju | wait! must focus |
| 04:56.39 | mindjuju | nm |
| 04:56.44 | supernovia | ooh |
| 04:56.45 | TuxToaster | it had better be sure ;P |
| 04:56.47 | beandog | mindjuju: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dASqLXiuomY |
| 04:57.02 | mindjuju | saw part of that movie like 2 weekends ago |
| 04:57.07 | beandog | aaaaaaaagh |
| 04:57.12 | beandog | supernovia: help me out |
| 04:57.15 | supernovia | ew,relatedvideos |
| 04:57.35 | cedwards | ~Zelut |
| 04:57.36 | ibot | it has been said that zelut is the president and grand-poobah of Ubuntu Utah, an Ubuntu Grand Master. He blogs at http://ubuntu-tutorials.com and has a smokin' hot wife, HoneyShiv. |
| 04:57.53 | supernovia | this says to take notes on badbreath and kissing |
| 04:57.54 | cedwards | lol. i have no idea who put that there. |
| 04:58.03 | beandog | HoneyShiv??? |
| 04:58.07 | supernovia | wossay |
| 04:58.10 | beandog | thats almost as good as Mrs. Sexy Pants |
| 04:58.21 | beandog | mindjuju: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBhxhg7GdyI |
| 04:59.06 | TuxToaster | 'night everyone :-) |
| 04:59.11 | beandog | nn TuxToaster |
| 04:59.28 | beandog | ~wps |
| 04:59.29 | ibot | methinks wps is Mr. Sexy Pants |
| 04:59.40 | mindjuju | you know, that's on 13 going on 30 with jen gardner |
| 04:59.49 | mindjuju | one of mrs mj fav movies |
| 04:59.55 | supernovia | wps is eh? |
| 04:59.57 | *** join/#uphpu josephscott (~josephsco@74.200.246.169) |
| 04:59.57 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+v josephscott] by ChanServ |
| 05:00.01 | TuxToaster[zZzZz | meh. |
| 05:00.02 | beandog | ~josephscott |
| 05:00.14 | josephscott | I didn't do it! |
| 05:00.15 | beandog | meh |
| 05:00.17 | supernovia | have a good night TuxToaster[zZzZz |
| 05:00.18 | josephscott | well, maybe I did |
| 05:00.21 | josephscott | you never know :-) |
| 05:00.30 | TuxToaster[zZz] | there we go. night :-) |
| 05:00.30 | supernovia | At least you're not wps |
| 05:00.33 | mindjuju | done |
| 05:00.33 | supernovia | see ysa |
| 05:00.36 | beandog | ~supernovia |
| 05:00.37 | ibot | somebody said supernovia was an enigma wrapped in a riddle, or a happy mother of two awesome kiddos |
| 05:00.42 | mindjuju | and in time too |
| 05:00.49 | supernovia | have a good night mindjuju |
| 05:00.50 | beandog | supernovia needs some more tags |
| 05:00.59 | supernovia | s |
| 05:01.07 | beandog | my brain cells are spent on looking for 80s videos |
| 05:01.12 | supernovia | I'm apparently a lightweight with cough syrup ;-[ |
| 05:01.53 | beandog | yah? |
| 05:01.55 | mindjuju | beandog, it'd have to be something rare like this |
| 05:01.56 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krcoz4_XC5s |
| 05:02.05 | supernovia | yeah I am a little loopy atm |
| 05:02.05 | mindjuju | but of course, i just saw this the other day whilst eating lunch |
| 05:02.09 | beandog | mindjuju: well I tried |
| 05:02.12 | beandog | now beat it. |
| 05:02.53 | beandog | wtc is this video?? |
| 05:03.09 | mindjuju | it's an uber rare 80s music video |
| 05:03.18 | mindjuju | that manypeople havne't heard, let alone seen |
| 05:03.37 | cedwards | it's a trap |
| 05:03.37 | beandog | thats a shame. |
| 05:03.43 | beandog | not too many videos where octopi chase cats. |
| 05:03.51 | supernovia | ooh, this is crazy |
| 05:03.56 | mindjuju | truthfully, it took me like 2 years to find it, all i could remember is the octopus and the 8arms |
| 05:03.58 | mindjuju | but that was it |
| 05:04.27 | beandog | supernovia: lol |
| 05:04.38 | beandog | lol |
| 05:04.49 | supernovia | hehe |
| 05:05.08 | beandog | okay this video is actually kinda cool |
| 05:05.15 | supernovia | oh goodness, OK |
| 05:05.17 | beandog | supernovia: lol I can just see that in my minds eye, cracks me up |
| 05:05.24 | supernovia | hehe |
| 05:05.30 | mindjuju | and the song is catchy too |
| 05:06.00 | beandog | and hes playing the drums! |
| 05:06.02 | beandog | nice touch. |
| 05:06.06 | mindjuju | :) |
| 05:06.14 | beandog | ooh Ive got a good one. |
| 05:06.18 | mindjuju | k |
| 05:06.19 | mindjuju | what is it |
| 05:06.25 | beandog | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqz1ojIQTBk |
| 05:06.37 | mindjuju | nice |
| 05:06.43 | mindjuju | i haven't seen this one in a long time |
| 05:06.47 | beandog | yes! |
| 05:06.48 | beandog | I win! |
| 05:06.58 | mindjuju | when i have a weird all fix, I wind up looking up white and nerdy |
| 05:07.41 | beandog | weird al ... now theres a man who should have seen more film in his days |
| 05:07.48 | supernovia | pff, she just smiles |
| 05:08.05 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: he's making another movie |
| 05:08.09 | beandog | lol this one is classic |
| 05:08.13 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: are you serious??! |
| 05:08.19 | mindjuju | beandog, seen this video in a while? |
| 05:08.28 | mindjuju | wipeout fat boys |
| 05:08.28 | supernovia | oh man, ok I am watching this and then I am going .. to .. bed (while I can still walk, darnigit) |
| 05:08.39 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt0LBlH3dAc |
| 05:08.55 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: http://alyankovic.wordpress.com/2010/01/25/this-thing-im-doing/ |
| 05:08.57 | mindjuju | ~01darnigit |
| 05:09.15 | josephscott | al blogs on wordpress.com - http://alyankovic.wordpress.com/ |
| 05:09.28 | supernovia | lols @ Fat |
| 05:09.36 | mindjuju | ibot, 01darnigit is a bad word in Mo Pop |
| 05:09.37 | ibot | okay, mindjuju |
| 05:09.41 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo way |
| 05:09.43 | mindjuju | ~darnigit ! |
| 05:09.44 | josephscott | you ain't nuthin! |
| 05:09.50 | mindjuju | ~darnigit |
| 05:10.08 | mindjuju | ~01darnigit |
| 05:10.08 | ibot | well, 01darnigit is a bad word in Mo Pop |
| 05:10.49 | supernovia | s/darnigit/darn it, oy, yeah/ |
| 05:10.50 | mindjuju | k, c yall tomorrow |
| 05:10.54 | supernovia | see ya mindjuju |
| 05:13.49 | supernovia | alright ugys, I am so going tosleep. have a good night! |
| 05:14.23 | carmony | I <3 jQuery! |
| 05:16.45 | beandog | heh |
| 05:27.12 | beandog | Ok |
| 05:27.14 | beandog | back to work |
| 05:27.15 | beandog | or bed ... |
| 05:33.06 | beandog | watching all these 80s videos makes me wanna go roller skating |
| 06:22.07 | beandog | ah, man |
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| 14:48.23 | influx | :P |
| 14:48.28 | influx | Bummer. |
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| 15:31.44 | carmony | ping utahcon :P |
| 15:32.29 | utahcon | carmony: what you want? |
| 15:32.41 | carmony | utahcon: question for you, pm :P |
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| 15:41.03 | ninnypants | http://bigthink.com/ideas/18522 awesome ideas in this video |
| 15:46.11 | utahcon | ninnypants: great link |
| 15:46.47 | ninnypants | listening to the full interview now |
| 15:47.52 | ninnypants | I just play it in the background and work in the rest of my browser |
| 15:49.43 | unum | I play videos on one computer and work on the other two |
| 15:49.55 | unum | though some days I need all three computers and all four monitors |
| 15:54.53 | ninnypants | I finally got a temp second monitor for my desktop |
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| 16:06.06 | cycokilr | haha.. i just glanced over and thought you punched a unicorn.. |
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| 16:19.33 | thebigdog | top of the morning |
| 16:19.42 | utahcon | morning thebigdog |
| 16:19.44 | ninnypants | morning |
| 16:19.49 | thebigdog | the morning is already filled with excitement |
| 16:20.10 | ninnypants | I always read your nick as thebirddog |
| 16:20.21 | thebigdog | one of our business analysts asked our network security guy if she could plug in headphones |
| 16:20.26 | thebigdog | so he asks why |
| 16:20.35 | thebigdog | and she says that she wants to stream pandora |
| 16:20.53 | thebigdog | which he starts laughing and pulls out the network policy on streaming |
| 16:20.59 | thebigdog | i just sat and laughed |
| 16:21.36 | mgeary | you've got low standards for excitement |
| 16:21.49 | utahcon | mgeary: agreed |
| 16:22.38 | carmony | lol, I stream like a mo-fo :P |
| 16:22.51 | thebigdog | if you are home then all is good |
| 16:22.57 | thebigdog | or if you paying for the bandwidth |
| 16:23.09 | thebigdog | i hate streamers at work |
| 16:24.13 | thebigdog | mgeary: get back to work slacker |
| 16:24.17 | thebigdog | and check your emails |
| 16:28.11 | cycokilr | i just bring in my usb drive with all my music on it and play it locally.. |
| 16:28.49 | utahcon | thebigdog: everyone streams at my office |
| 16:28.56 | unum | we allow everyone to stream |
| 16:30.48 | carmony | LOL, just got a call from my mom who is a second grade teacher |
| 16:31.02 | carmony | and one of the kids had rotated the desktop 90 degrees |
| 16:31.10 | carmony | and she couldn't figure out how to get it back |
| 16:35.59 | ninnypants | medicine time for the dogs went supprisingly smooth this morning |
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| 16:44.42 | DexterTheDragon | omg mindjuju http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/a9d5/ |
| 16:52.45 | utahcon | I would hit it with a bat daily |
| 16:53.41 | ninnypants | not crowbar? |
| 16:53.57 | utahcon | I don't have a crowbar at work, but if I did, I would. |
| 16:54.35 | ninnypants | you have a bat at work? |
| 16:54.51 | stderr | http://www.flickr.com/photos/dataw0lf/4384537103/sizes/l/ |
| 16:55.02 | utahcon | ninnypants: sssshhhh!!! yes |
| 16:55.10 | utahcon | to keep fungus under control |
| 16:55.29 | mgeary | how's that workin' out for ya? |
| 16:55.34 | fungus | hehe |
| 16:55.41 | utahcon | he is a quick little bastard |
| 16:57.53 | herlo | lol |
| 17:19.39 | SunSparc | stderr: that photo is great |
| 17:19.52 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: I need one of those headcrabs. |
| 17:24.27 | utahcon | SunSparc: I know a girl... |
| 17:28.25 | SunSparc | heh |
| 17:29.14 | mindjuju | i've got something to say |
| 17:29.20 | mindjuju | i got an 86 on my math test |
| 17:29.21 | utahcon | mindjuju: then say it! |
| 17:29.26 | utahcon | 86... B? |
| 17:29.27 | SunSparc | ~podium mindjuju |
| 17:29.31 | mindjuju | yup |
| 17:29.36 | mindjuju | i can live with a B |
| 17:29.37 | utahcon | w00t! |
| 17:29.38 | supernovia | not bad mindjuju! |
| 17:29.51 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:29.58 | supernovia | I'd personally be jumping up and down if I got an 86 on a math test |
| 17:29.59 | SunSparc | mindjuju: if you are happy with a B then I am happy for you. :) |
| 17:30.16 | jtsnow | sweet... what math? |
| 17:30.26 | mindjuju | fresh math :( |
| 17:30.37 | mindjuju | but, i haven't taken a math in |
| 17:30.39 | mindjuju | err |
| 17:30.49 | mindjuju | '97 |
| 17:30.49 | supernovia | I haven't taken math in more than half of my lifetime :-o |
| 17:30.54 | mindjuju | and here we are in 2010 |
| 17:30.57 | mindjuju | so, 13 yrs |
| 17:31.16 | mgeary | ... to 4th graders... |
| 17:31.39 | mindjuju | your son's math class, eys? |
| 17:31.46 | mgeary | he's in it, yes |
| 17:32.00 | supernovia | that's cool mgeary |
| 17:32.32 | mindjuju | parents agressively active in children's education = FTW(all) |
| 17:33.15 | mgeary | "For the Wall"...? |
| 17:33.30 | mindjuju | For the Win for all |
| 17:33.33 | mgeary | ;) |
| 17:33.48 | supernovia | For the wall is good too though |
| 17:34.43 | mindjuju | psh |
| 17:34.49 | supernovia | hopefully they can carry on with some momentum from last year |
| 17:34.56 | mindjuju | showing your kids education is important by going back to school is lesson enough |
| 17:35.06 | supernovia | hopefully |
| 17:35.25 | mindjuju | anything above that is gravy |
| 17:35.54 | DexterTheDragon | mmmmm gravy |
| 17:36.06 | supernovia | My math-smarts boy was struggling with 'regrouping' in subtraction so he taught himself a different trick |
| 17:36.29 | supernovia | which seems to work okay and let him get through his work quickly.. but I don't get it |
| 17:37.17 | supernovia | in case you missed it: http://novapages.com/ideablog/life/worksheet-fail/ |
| 17:37.33 | supernovia | utahcon: because homework is that awesome, right? |
| 17:37.46 | utahcon | nah... so my kids seem like they are learning something |
| 17:37.54 | utahcon | I am convinced my son is a friggin genius... |
| 17:38.07 | mindjuju | love the post supernovia |
| 17:38.08 | utahcon | he has figured out how to open bottles... 13months old |
| 17:38.27 | supernovia | best thing to do with freaking geniuses: let them keep doing what they're doing. And teach em how to read if you can :) |
| 17:38.32 | mindjuju | the real question utahcon, is are you going to be happy when he hax your box? |
| 17:38.40 | supernovia | thanks mindjuju :) |
| 17:39.18 | utahcon | mindjuju: I will be super excited when he hax by box |
| 17:39.23 | utahcon | as long as I have a backup |
| 17:39.24 | utahcon | :D |
| 17:39.26 | supernovia | hehe |
| 17:39.31 | supernovia | welp.. |
| 17:39.53 | utahcon | last night when I went in his room, hey blurped two words at me, swear it was "heey daaa" |
| 17:39.59 | supernothere | time to go to the dr. :) see yas |
| 17:40.18 | utahcon | always read that SuperNoThere... not SuperNotHere |
| 17:40.48 | DexterTheDragon | oh I liked super no there |
| 17:40.50 | SuperNotHere | better? (as I transcribe a list of the 9 pills I took this morning trying to make myself well) |
| 17:41.29 | utahcon | supernothere: that is cool :D |
| 17:41.31 | supernothere | there, adds to the enigma |
| 17:42.05 | utahcon | supernothere is a riddle wrapped in an enigma |
| 17:42.17 | supernothere | ~supernovia |
| 17:42.18 | ibot | it has been said that supernovia is an enigma wrapped in a riddle, or a happy mother of two awesome kiddos |
| 17:42.30 | utahcon | bam! |
| 17:46.09 | supernothere | alright, I am really not here now. see ya later :) |
| 17:46.25 | SunSparc | Hey supernothere! |
| 17:56.57 | stderr | SunSparc: thanks :) |
| 17:57.03 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 18:51.25 | ninnypants | anyone here able to give me some help with simplexml? |
| 18:54.41 | mgeary | what's the problem? |
| 18:54.49 | SunSparc | Maybe, ask and we will see. |
| 18:54.56 | ninnypants | http://pastebin.com/PEqfCa7m |
| 18:55.26 | mgeary | can you save us some time and explain what seems to be the problem? |
| 18:55.38 | ninnypants | yeah working on it |
| 18:56.12 | mgeary | SunSparc is dyslexic, so i'm trying to save him some embarrassment |
| 18:58.37 | ninnypants | so I can't get the url for the photo line 10 it only returns the object instead of the url like it does if I don't loop through and use array notation $pet->media->photos->photo[1] |
| 18:59.26 | ninnypants | it's using this xml http://api.petfinder.com/pet.get?key=aa20cf0e312fec11f6e4171e94d3c07a&id=14765589 |
| 19:00.02 | SunSparc | ~lart mgeary |
| 19:00.02 | ibot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, mgeary!" and lops off mgeary's head |
| 19:01.02 | mgeary | ninnypants: so you can access the item, but it's giving you a SimpleXML node object, instead of the string literal, is that the problem? |
| 19:02.39 | ninnypants | yeah |
| 19:02.59 | mgeary | have you tried coercing the object to a string? |
| 19:03.08 | mgeary | or var_dump-ing the object to inspect it? |
| 19:04.15 | ninnypants | yeah it outputs theobject defined in the comment below the code |
| 19:05.49 | mgeary | that's not your dump of your $photos array? |
| 19:06.15 | mgeary | i'm saying dump the $photo object inside your foreach loop |
| 19:06.29 | ninnypants | it is but the dump of the photo object is the same as the objects shown in there |
| 19:06.54 | mgeary | try coercing the object to a string: |
| 19:07.02 | mgeary | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.21 | mgeary | iirc, there is a __toString() method on the SimpleXML elements that returns the string value |
| 19:08.03 | mgeary | also, you could introduce some variables in your loop to clean up your code and make it a bit more readable |
| 19:08.07 | ninnypants | that did it |
| 19:08.11 | mgeary | k |
| 19:08.50 | ninnypants | yeah I've been been testing for a while so it got a little messy |
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| 19:43.18 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 19:43.19 | ibot | slaps a compatible dib on eggyknap's head |
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| 20:13.27 | stderr | http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14455173 |
| 20:14.57 | DexterTheDragon | ah freedom. I remember it with fondness |
| 20:15.25 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon: You still have freedom, it is just more closely monitored. |
| 20:15.41 | DexterTheDragon | sounds like pretty crappy freedom to me |
| 20:16.27 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon: If you don't like it move somewhere where they have more freedom, and then send me a post card so I know where it is so I can move too. |
| 20:16.37 | utahcon | and if it is Canada I will punch you in the gut |
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| 20:20.49 | romanovic | ~blame Canada |
| 20:20.50 | ibot | ACTION blames Canada (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
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| 20:39.17 | supernovia | I need an accountant. |
| 20:41.04 | supernovia | I'm not even sure where to start looking or how much they cost but I do know I am bad at it |
| 20:42.25 | mindjuju | http://www.daveramsey.com/elp/tax-services/ |
| 20:42.26 | beandog | supernovia, its simple |
| 20:42.30 | beandog | step one: give me all your money |
| 20:42.34 | beandog | step two: don't ask any questions |
| 20:42.38 | supernovia | hehe beandog |
| 20:42.51 | mindjuju | wasn't cheap, but i felt really good about the level of documentation he did |
| 20:42.57 | mindjuju | and the return we filed |
| 20:43.10 | mindjuju | twas first year of business, so i was worried |
| 20:43.36 | supernovia | yeah this is my first year minus an H&R Block manager for a MIL |
| 20:44.16 | supernovia | also the first year I lived off freelance work |
| 20:44.49 | supernovia | but, I don't think I could swing an accountant just yet so I am running around pulling papers together and trying to get myself all fixed up so I can give the government anything I've got left :-p |
| 20:52.31 | carmony | supernovia: you live in Orem/Provo area, right? |
| 20:53.12 | supernovia | Yeah |
| 20:53.28 | supernovia | Well, north Utah County anyway |
| 20:56.30 | supernovia | I think I'm going to have to manage this year by myself, hopefully learn from last year's mistakes and move forward from there |
| 20:56.36 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 20:56.37 | ibot | shoves a crumpet down mgeary's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? |
| 20:56.47 | supernovia | Ooo, crumpets |
| 20:57.21 | supernovia | I remember telling someone we were going to have to truncate something and she said, "Tea with crumpets?" |
| 20:57.45 | carmony | Well, anyone who would like a free quote from a good, affordable accountant, let me know :P Litz & Co is pretty good and affordable :P |
| 20:58.23 | supernovia | I don't even know what they run, so yeah I would like a quote. :) |
| 21:00.55 | carmony | yes, it is :P |
| 21:01.34 | carmony | however I've shopped around and still can't find anywhere cheaper that isn't some random person out of their basement :P |
| 21:04.46 | beandog | dont we have a local uphper that just opened their own tax service? |
| 21:05.11 | carmony | Well, web developers have portfolios to show :P |
| 21:05.37 | beandog | or am I really confused. |
| 21:05.39 | carmony | Iv'e met some interesting "accountants" and "cpas", they can be harder to judge |
| 21:05.48 | supernovia | hehe |
| 21:07.26 | utahcon | Is .ip a valid TLD? |
| 21:11.28 | beandog | fungus, ping |
| 21:13.23 | fungus | beandog, pong |
| 21:13.38 | beandog | fungus, pm? |
| 21:13.44 | DexterTheDragon | ~find mindjuju |
| 21:13.50 | fungus | sure |
| 21:14.03 | fungus | utahcon, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains |
| 21:16.35 | beandog | British Indian Ocean Territory ? |
| 21:16.39 | carmony | I want to get http://just.in/ :P |
| 21:17.03 | supernovia | that'd rock, carmony :) |
| 21:17.58 | mindjuju | i guess somebody helped that Tracer T kid out, cause he's got a new vid on netstat |
| 21:18.03 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q055xrM1aIs |
| 21:18.12 | mindjuju | beandog, DtD ^^ |
| 21:18.14 | supernovia | Ahhhhhh! |
| 21:18.21 | beandog | ~mindjuju-- |
| 21:18.30 | mindjuju | ROFL!!!!! |
| 21:18.34 | beandog | violation of trust! |
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| 21:19.14 | mindjuju | i'm a bad boy |
| 21:19.17 | Utah_Dave | supernovia: my accountant charged us $300 this year. He's worth it. |
| 21:19.30 | mindjuju | that's about what I paid |
| 21:19.36 | mgeary | Utah_Dave: what all does your accountant provide? |
| 21:19.41 | supernovia | is that mostly for tax prep and what not or .? |
| 21:19.51 | mgeary | has anyone here worked with Google's Analytics Data Export API? |
| 21:20.01 | supernovia | you know, mindjuju, it has been a while since I heard this song. |
| 21:20.10 | DexterTheDragon | Utah_Dave: yikes |
| 21:21.22 | mindjuju | i'm sorry beandog |
| 21:21.27 | mindjuju | well, maybe not |
| 21:21.27 | beandog | too late! |
| 21:21.44 | beandog | ~shun mindjuju |
| 21:21.45 | ibot | You are dead to me, mindjuju. |
| 21:21.45 | carmony | just saw a commercial that said "A+ is a crucial computer science certification" |
| 21:22.07 | mindjuju | hilarious carmony |
| 21:22.25 | supernovia | wow, A+ eh |
| 21:22.38 | carmony | yeah, the order on the commercial went |
| 21:22.49 | mgeary | Utah_Dave: ^^ |
| 21:22.49 | carmony | CCNA, Microsoft, A+... :P |
| 21:24.19 | beandog | A+? |
| 21:26.37 | carmony | its a very, very, very basic computer repair certification |
| 21:27.57 | beandog | oh, there really is one? |
| 21:28.14 | supernovia | It was laughable 10 years ago |
| 21:28.24 | carmony | http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/A%2B_Certification |
| 21:28.25 | mindjuju | DtD - this mix is good |
| 21:28.35 | DexterTheDragon | aye |
| 21:29.32 | carmony | "One of the essential requirements for A+ Certification is identifying names, purposes, and characteristics of specific hardware components". i.e. floppy disk drive, ram... |
| 21:29.56 | utahcon | I think my Mom could nail the A+ now |
| 21:31.00 | mindjuju | man one of the devs that worked here years ago could have used this doc |
| 21:31.10 | mindjuju | he literally thought RAM was hot swapable |
| 21:31.44 | mindjuju | came over to the directors office compalining his computer wasn't working any more and we asked him what he did |
| 21:31.45 | beandog | well, it is now |
| 21:31.59 | beandog | or, *can* be, I believe, with Linux kernels |
| 21:32.14 | beandog | same with processors, though I wouldnt really recommend ripping one out. |
| 21:33.21 | carmony | wow |
| 21:34.19 | supernovia | really? that's crazy |
| 21:34.41 | beandog | http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/cpu-hotplug.txt |
| 21:35.33 | beandog | So, whats everyones take on Prototype vs JQuery? |
| 21:35.38 | beandog | I thought they were effectively the same t hing |
| 21:35.46 | mgeary | jquery++ |
| 21:35.54 | mgeary | all new stuff is all jquery |
| 21:35.57 | mgeary | never looked back |
| 21:36.04 | beandog | mgeary, why the switch? |
| 21:36.14 | utahcon | anyone want to help? |
| 21:36.18 | mgeary | more compact syntax, more forward-thinking ideas |
| 21:36.45 | DexterTheDragon | more awesomeness per byte |
| 21:36.47 | mgeary | utahcon: ask thebigdog. he's loaded |
| 21:38.02 | utahcon | I will probably need more to actually support it, but I think you get teh idea :D |
| 21:40.37 | influx | As long as I get prot.ip |
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| 21:41.24 | mgeary | i want buny.ip |
| 21:41.27 | mindjuju | Convenience Store Ceiling Leak Surprise - http://www.break.com/index/convenience-store-ceiling-leak-surprise.html - 100% no rick roll guarantee |
| 21:41.46 | mgeary | ~no creditability mindjuju |
| 21:42.04 | mgeary | s/creditability/credibility |
| 21:42.16 | mindjuju | :( |
| 21:42.58 | mgeary | hah. what i like about that is how the guy comes over to see what happened, and then just walks away |
| 21:43.03 | beandog | mindjuju, lol, whut? |
| 21:43.27 | mindjuju | that link up above about the ceiling leak |
| 21:43.33 | supernovia | oh noes! |
| 21:44.49 | beandog | what was the guy doing in the ceiling |
| 21:44.56 | beandog | and what was leaking |
| 21:44.58 | beandog | eww |
| 21:45.01 | supernovia | ol |
| 21:45.08 | supernovia | s/ol/lol/ |
| 21:45.12 | influx | Welcome to #jr.high |
| 21:45.38 | influx | Topic: Who farted? |
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| 21:55.56 | influx | supernothere: lucky you |
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| 22:25.10 | mindjuju | beandog, you around? |
| 22:25.17 | beandog | mindjuju, yah |
| 22:25.51 | mindjuju | can you run vlc strictly on the commandline without a gui? |
| 22:26.22 | mindjuju | i can't remember, why, but for some reason, i'm remembering that you are the vlc guru |
| 22:27.18 | beandog | mindjuju, mplayer, not vlc |
| 22:27.26 | beandog | mindjuju, and yes, you can |
| 22:27.58 | mindjuju | seems like vlc does it, i'll have to check mplayer |
| 22:28.13 | beandog | mindjuju, you dont need VLC for that |
| 22:28.15 | beandog | You can use ffmpeg |
| 22:29.25 | beandog | Besides |
| 22:29.30 | beandog | VLC and MPlayer are using ffmpeg anywya |
| 22:29.31 | beandog | anyway |
| 22:29.43 | beandog | mindjuju, what do you wanna convert though? |
| 22:29.48 | beandog | Because AVI and MP4 are just containers |
| 22:29.57 | beandog | its like saying you wanna move a .zip to a .tar.bz2 |
| 22:30.26 | mindjuju | doesn't mp4 always use a compression where avi doesn't necessarily though? |
| 22:30.31 | beandog | no |
| 22:30.34 | beandog | it's just a container. |
| 22:30.44 | beandog | think of it as a box |
| 22:30.48 | beandog | it can hold all kinds of stuff |
| 22:30.58 | herlo | can it hold soda? |
| 22:31.02 | beandog | herlo, yes. |
| 22:31.07 | herlo | really? |
| 22:31.10 | herlo | wow, neat! |
| 22:31.13 | beandog | :) |
| 22:31.18 | beandog | ~soda herlo |
| 22:31.24 | herlo | can you load it up with Dr Pepper and bring it over to my house? |
| 22:31.36 | beandog | herlo, where do you live |
| 22:31.53 | herlo | beandog: Murray |
| 22:33.08 | beandog | herlo, we don't deliver that far |
| 22:33.28 | mindjuju | beandog, to answer your question, I have a green room / camera / lights and make videos for the company |
| 22:33.40 | mindjuju | we were going DV -> AVI - > FLV |
| 22:33.44 | beandog | mindjuju, whats the original source material |
| 22:33.48 | beandog | mindjuju, oh, GAH |
| 22:33.58 | beandog | ~heal mindjuju |
| 22:33.59 | ibot | ACTION heals mindjuju with Super Cow Powers. |
| 22:34.07 | mindjuju | which part you no likey? |
| 22:34.16 | beandog | mindjuju, well you should be doing dv->mp4 |
| 22:34.35 | mindjuju | we're using an older version of priemere that doesn't support export to MP4 |
| 22:34.46 | herlo | beandog: boo |
| 22:34.49 | beandog | mindjuju, What else can it output to? |
| 22:35.13 | beandog | herlo, I will deliver a case of my hiqh quality alternative drink: Dr. Pooper |
| 22:35.13 | mindjuju | mpeg, mpeg2, avi |
| 22:35.30 | mindjuju | i'm remoting to the box to give you a full list |
| 22:35.34 | beandog | mindjuju, whats the original codecs? mpeg2 |
| 22:35.34 | mindjuju | uno momento, por favor |
| 22:36.40 | mindjuju | k, here we go |
| 22:37.00 | mindjuju | animated gif, gif, quicktime ms avi, ms DV avi(i use this one) |
| 22:37.28 | mindjuju | so, i could go to mov, but i saw it as 6s |
| 22:37.29 | beandog | well, MP4 is MOV |
| 22:37.31 | beandog | somewhat. |
| 22:37.34 | beandog | Kinda. |
| 22:37.39 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 22:37.42 | beandog | Actually, forget I said that, I'll just confuse you. :) |
| 22:37.50 | mindjuju | too late |
| 22:38.06 | mindjuju | seems like mov can use the h.264 codec |
| 22:38.16 | beandog | I dunno about that. Probably. |
| 22:38.22 | DexterTheDragon | can't you like dump the DV to uncompressed AVI, then convert it to whatever |
| 22:38.26 | mindjuju | but this verion of premiere doesn't have that functionality |
| 22:38.28 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, thats what im wondering |
| 22:38.36 | mindjuju | that's what i'm doing!!! |
| 22:38.38 | beandog | I wanna know what the actual codecs are |
| 22:38.50 | beandog | mindjuju, do you have a small sample somewhere? |
| 22:38.54 | mindjuju | DV - > AVI --> FLV |
| 22:39.02 | beandog | Why FLV? |
| 22:39.04 | beandog | :) |
| 22:39.08 | beandog | mindjuju, anyway |
| 22:39.09 | DexterTheDragon | well as long as its uncompressed AVI, good on ya |
| 22:39.12 | mindjuju | except i want to now do DV --> AVI --> MP4 |
| 22:39.18 | beandog | mindjuju, Oh, okay, that's easy. |
| 22:39.22 | beandog | Just use ffmpeg :) |
| 22:39.28 | mindjuju | beandog, because I stream my stuff through a flash comm server |
| 22:39.40 | mindjuju | some are progressive, the majority real-time stream |
| 22:40.17 | mindjuju | and flash comm server can pipe flv and now mp4 |
| 22:40.27 | beandog | Okay |
| 22:40.29 | mindjuju | and i want in on some of that mp4 compression / quality sweet stuff |
| 22:40.40 | beandog | well, again, mp4 has nothing to do with compression |
| 22:40.42 | beandog | its all about the codec |
| 22:40.50 | beandog | which would probably be h.264 |
| 22:40.52 | mindjuju | can you use h.264 in avi? |
| 22:40.53 | beandog | for video |
| 22:40.54 | beandog | No |
| 22:41.00 | mindjuju | k then |
| 22:41.04 | DexterTheDragon | wrong box |
| 22:41.04 | beandog | I'm guessing your original source is raw video or MPEG2 |
| 22:41.18 | beandog | rawvideo would be really big though. |
| 22:41.23 | mindjuju | yup |
| 22:41.53 | beandog | mindjuju, anyway. There are Windows ports of ffmpeg. |
| 22:42.10 | beandog | Im not sure if x264 has one .. I assume it does. |
| 22:42.13 | mindjuju | well, i have ways to convert it to mp4 now |
| 22:42.18 | beandog | oh okay |
| 22:42.21 | mindjuju | with tons of gui |
| 22:42.28 | mindjuju | and all that stuff, i want more efficent |
| 22:42.32 | mindjuju | like my linux servers |
| 22:42.34 | beandog | yah |
| 22:42.35 | beandog | ffmpeg is easy |
| 22:42.42 | beandog | ffmpeg -i movie.avi movie.mp4 |
| 22:42.43 | beandog | done :D |
| 22:42.52 | beandog | except that wouldn't use x264, but still .. |
| 22:42.52 | mindjuju | that's cool! |
| 22:42.57 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: which codec does that use |
| 22:43.00 | beandog | it *can* be as simple as that |
| 22:43.04 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, libavcdocec mpeg4 |
| 22:43.06 | beandog | and AAC |
| 22:43.12 | mindjuju | here is why i was confused about mp4/h.264 |
| 22:43.13 | mindjuju | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264 |
| 22:43.23 | mindjuju | they seem to use it interchanglby |
| 22:43.24 | beandog | H.264 is a video codec |
| 22:43.28 | mindjuju | yes, i know |
| 22:43.45 | mindjuju | and seems like i read .mov can use it too |
| 22:43.51 | beandog | probably |
| 22:44.43 | DexterTheDragon | quicktime is the basis of the MPEG-4 format |
| 22:44.48 | beandog | Right |
| 22:45.01 | beandog | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.mov#QuickTime_file_format |
| 22:45.41 | beandog | mindjuju, what box are you gonna put it on |
| 22:45.52 | mindjuju | ubuntu 9.10 server |
| 22:46.01 | beandog | mindjuju, sorry, I meant hardware |
| 22:46.35 | mindjuju | oh, we recycle a ton of hardware, so it's nothing fancy, prolly just a dell 650 precision workstation with xeon proc and a couple scsi |
| 22:46.48 | beandog | o.O |
| 22:46.51 | beandog | nothing fancy? |
| 22:47.06 | beandog | that would work fine |
| 22:47.21 | mindjuju | well, when you have mac fanbois with their 8 core uber boxes |
| 22:47.26 | mindjuju | and cinematic screens |
| 22:47.37 | beandog | yah, well |
| 22:47.37 | mindjuju | a paltry xeon proc / meh |
| 22:47.44 | beandog | apple and their closed systems deserve each other. |
| 22:47.51 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:48.34 | mindjuju | ~beandog++ |
| 22:48.42 | beandog | :) |
| 22:48.52 | mindjuju | thx for the info on ffmpeg, i think this will be sweet to have setup |
| 22:49.00 | beandog | mindjuju, yah, just google ffmpeg x264 guide |
| 22:49.04 | beandog | there's a great one |
| 22:49.14 | mindjuju | especially if i could get some rsync gravy going |
| 22:49.20 | mindjuju | i need to read up on how that works |
| 22:49.20 | beandog | http://tinyurl.com/2h9454 |
| 22:49.28 | beandog | no rickroll |
| 22:49.46 | beandog | mindjuju, that'll get you started |
| 22:49.52 | mindjuju | awesome! that's perfect! |
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| 22:54.37 | fungus | mindjuju, the term Xeon for Intel processors no longer has any connection to generation or speed. |
| 22:54.37 | beandog | yah |
| 22:54.37 | beandog | They have been around a looooong time |
| 22:54.37 | beandog | mindjuju, get an i7 |
| 22:54.37 | beandog | :D |
| 22:54.37 | fungus | Xeon has been used for many years, and will continue to be used for the new Core i7/i9 series to come |
| 22:54.38 | mindjuju | yup, i noticed |
| 22:54.38 | mindjuju | hard for me to compare proc to proc |
| 22:54.40 | fungus | Xeon just indicates it's meant for high end workstations or servers |
| 22:54.58 | mindjuju | so, does it compare to p3 or p4 |
| 22:55.05 | mindjuju | or is that kind of comparison not relative? |
| 22:55.15 | fungus | p4 is old and nasty |
| 22:55.15 | beandog | it can, to both |
| 22:55.27 | fungus | All Xeons are better than p4's |
| 22:55.35 | DexterTheDragon | i3/i5/i7/i9 what a great naming scheme |
| 22:55.46 | fungus | the Xeon moniker was created after then end of the P4 |
| 22:55.54 | mindjuju | cool! |
| 22:55.57 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, Id be happy if they just stuck with *one* naming scheme |
| 22:56.01 | mindjuju | i'll need to reed up on that |
| 22:56.20 | fungus | It really sucks that you have to "read up on that" when it comes to comparing processors. |
| 22:56.23 | fungus | ~intel-- |
| 22:56.39 | fungus | but they've got uber fast, low power procs too |
| 22:56.42 | fungus | ~intel++ |
| 22:56.55 | DexterTheDragon | I was just starting to understand the diff between Pentium Core/Core 2/Core 2 Duo/Core 2 Quad etc |
| 22:56.58 | beandog | Atoms are pretty cool |
| 22:57.42 | fungus | It's really sad to see AMD lag so far behind. |
| 22:57.57 | beandog | Oh THAT is EVIL |
| 22:57.57 | beandog | "Note that this is only 70% of the sample code. You have to be a registered member to see the entire sample code. Please login or register." |
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| 22:58.13 | fungus | ~lament AMD |
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| 22:59.17 | mindjuju | penguingod, formerly blendmasternoid, formerly blendmaster1024 and other variants |
| 22:59.20 | mindjuju | how are you? |
| 22:59.32 | PenguinGod | i feel very ... nickish |
| 22:59.34 | PenguinGod | xD |
| 22:59.38 | beandog | fungus, ION is the new hawtness |
| 22:59.44 | mindjuju | i see that |
| 23:00.15 | fungus | beandog, yeah, that's true. Perhaps they gave up on CPUs to focus on GPUs now. |
| 23:02.01 | mindjuju | :) |
| 23:02.17 | beandog | MPGB |
| 23:02.18 | fungus | er, wait. ION is the new Nvidia stuff. not AMD |
| 23:02.22 | beandog | fungus, yah |
| 23:02.37 | fungus | duh. So AMD really is on it's deathbed then? |
| 23:02.45 | beandog | eh |
| 23:02.49 | beandog | They need an alternative to Atom |
| 23:02.51 | beandog | I'd say |
| 23:02.51 | mindjuju | sadly |
| 23:03.03 | mindjuju | i've liked AMD for a while |
| 23:03.07 | fungus | ~requiem AMD |
| 23:03.10 | beandog | Whats really crazy is that other arches are catching up |
| 23:03.26 | beandog | ~google beagleboard |
| 23:03.30 | mindjuju | what was the anme of that other cpu maker |
| 23:03.31 | fungus | I loved AMD myself, but Intel has mad a comeback |
| 23:03.33 | mindjuju | cyrix? |
| 23:03.55 | mindjuju | like 60% ibm compatible |
| 23:04.30 | fungus | Sun (er Oracle) is making some incredible leaps on their Sparc platforms |
| 23:05.06 | fungus | And don't forget IBM's new Power7 stuff. mmmm. |
| 23:06.11 | DexterTheDragon | its all about ARM |
| 23:06.50 | fungus | Oh right. can't forget about the low-end stuff too. |
| 23:07.18 | fungus | perhaps in the next decade or two we can start phasing out x86? |
| 23:07.41 | beandog | fungus, I think its creeping up |
| 23:07.44 | beandog | for low-powered x86 at least. |
| 23:07.54 | beandog | development is moving so fast. |
| 23:08.13 | mindjuju | we'rent they going to make cpu with RISC? |
| 23:08.36 | fungus | mindjuju, "they" already have many years ago |
| 23:09.01 | fungus | Sparc is the only one left that I know of that was based on RISC concepts |
| 23:09.38 | mindjuju | ah |
| 23:10.03 | mindjuju | meant that for desktops, i rmeember reading a pc mag on risc |
| 23:10.12 | mindjuju | for desktops, but didn't think it actually happened |
| 23:10.22 | fungus | mindjuju, the powerpc processors were risc too |
| 23:10.29 | fungus | think older macs |
| 23:34.12 | thebigdog | i am looking forward to 64b arm procs |
| 23:34.15 | thebigdog | those will be nice |
| 23:38.20 | mindjuju | thebigdog -> PM |
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