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| 04:21.52 | supernovia | Anyone know what Thursday's topics are |
| 04:21.54 | supernovia | ? |
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| 05:37.17 | supernovia | caffeine would be good right now |
| 05:39.48 | DexterTheDragon | yea |
| 05:40.09 | supernovia | how are things DexterTheDragon? |
| 05:40.29 | DexterTheDragon | same ol same ol |
| 05:40.49 | beandog | :) |
| 05:40.50 | supernovia | do you watch the olympics |
| 05:40.53 | beandog | I ripped a BluRay :D |
| 05:40.56 | supernovia | hi beandog |
| 05:41.09 | beandog | And it plays back on my frontend :D |
| 05:41.13 | supernovia | w00t! |
| 05:41.14 | beandog | somewhat. |
| 05:41.26 | supernovia | somewhat? |
| 05:41.34 | beandog | Needs some TLC |
| 05:41.45 | beandog | but, it works. And thats all I wanted to know |
| 05:42.11 | supernovia | coolio |
| 05:42.14 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: hows the fish |
| 05:42.39 | DexterTheDragon | as soon as I get some new ones I think they will be fine |
| 05:42.52 | beandog | is it fresh water or salt water |
| 05:43.15 | DexterTheDragon | fresh |
| 05:43.22 | supernovia | what kind of fish? |
| 05:43.36 | DexterTheDragon | guppies for just now |
| 05:44.07 | supernovia | Hmmm |
| 05:44.18 | supernovia | I used to have fish. |
| 05:44.28 | supernovia | Want to hear something funny? :-D |
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| 14:49.05 | Zelut | what editor(s) / IDE are generally preferred in here? |
| 15:00.58 | jsmith | vim! |
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| 15:41.04 | pelaofeliz | vim++ |
| 15:52.15 | orsonj | yes, vim has the best php/html/js syntax highlighting out there |
| 15:53.51 | orsonj | and on an unrelated note, is there anything better than handbrake (on windows) for backing up encrypted home videos? |
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| 16:20.37 | thebigdog | morning all |
| 16:25.20 | Zelut | orsonj: handbrake is the best I've found. I couple it sometimes with Fairmount (free) |
| 16:25.59 | Zelut | The reason I ask about editors is I'm teaching a short PHP class and I figure it's worth covering proper editor(s). |
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| 16:35.05 | orsonj | gvim is easier than plain vim for the new user |
| 16:36.22 | thebigdog | Zelut: what are you trying to cover with the editors? |
| 16:36.26 | SunSparc | orsonj: How so? |
| 16:38.13 | unum | Zelut: I typically use bluefish or gedit |
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| 16:38.31 | unum | SunSparc: because you don't have to memorize :wq |
| 16:38.38 | unum | or remember what mode you are in |
| 16:38.49 | Zelut | thebigdog: mainly outline that the right editor can make all the difference, and cover some basics. |
| 16:38.54 | unum | it works more like editors that they are likely to be used to |
| 16:39.02 | SunSparc | unum: ah, well, that could be helpful, habit for me though. |
| 16:39.04 | Zelut | I don't want these people trying to write in notepad or some nonsense like that! |
| 16:39.17 | Zelut | s/write/code/ |
| 16:39.23 | SunSparc | unum: I used to use Bluefish. Loved it. |
| 16:39.28 | unum | SunSparc: I get to be entertained by my coworkers trying to use vim from time to time |
| 16:39.37 | SunSparc | heh |
| 16:39.44 | unum | so I'm often reminded of how hard it is if you aren't used to the idea |
| 16:39.58 | unum | when I teach my html class I use notepad |
| 16:40.06 | unum | I've been thinking of adding a php class |
| 16:40.10 | unum | people have asked for it |
| 16:40.12 | Zelut | I'm always pointing out little vim shortcuts to co-workers. I'm surprised I haven't been punched/kicked/smacked |
| 16:40.22 | SunSparc | Yeah. I was actually looking through those vim guides the other day -> http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/228600-vim-101-a-beginners-guide-to-vim |
| 16:40.34 | unum | I should go through that guide |
| 16:40.42 | thebigdog | Zelut I think it also depends on what you are doing...when i develop i use eclipse for all stuff...however, if i just need to edit stuff i use vim |
| 16:40.44 | unum | for as much and how often I use it, I actaully don't know that much |
| 16:41.23 | SunSparc | unum: There are 4 parts that I was able to find with Google. They did not do a really good job linking them together. |
| 16:41.39 | Zelut | it seems every year I say "I bet I only know about X% of vim". I then learn more. Each year, despite the continued study, my estimated percentage goes down. |
| 16:42.09 | SunSparc | Heh, the more you know, the more you know, there is more to know. |
| 16:42.24 | Zelut | The more you know, the more you know you don't know. |
| 16:42.33 | SunSparc | Exactly. |
| 16:43.21 | Zelut | maybe I'll check out gvim for Portable Apps. problem with this class is I can't install anything on the machines :( |
| 16:43.59 | mpxm | http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1950 <---the ultimate vim script |
| 16:44.46 | orsonj | notepad++ is also a reasonable editor if gvim is still a bit much for someone |
| 16:51.03 | Zelut | I'll check that out too. thanks |
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| 16:52.55 | ninnypants | just got anothe million fan facebook invite |
| 16:56.22 | Zelut | hmm. notepad++ is not bad.. if you're stuck on windows. |
| 16:57.04 | ninnypants | yeah notepad++ is good so is pspad or sublime text |
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| 17:08.39 | redroy | Zelut: fwiw, I LOVE Coda |
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| 17:09.04 | thebigdog | eclipse 10^256+ |
| 17:09.04 | redroy | svn + ssh + ftp |
| 17:17.00 | thebigdog | netbeans is another ide that is pretty cool too |
| 17:17.08 | thebigdog | has support for various langs |
| 17:17.26 | SunSparc | I have heard good things about it, but have yet to try it. |
| 17:17.40 | mindjuju | ~seen Lone_Wanderer |
| 17:17.42 | ibot | lone_wanderer <n=Dan@c-98-202-123-90.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 25d 17h 2m 43s ago, saying: 'see you all at the meeting'. |
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| 17:18.45 | thebigdog | it is really good...the php support is pretty good along with python and ruby |
| 17:20.02 | utahcon | Anyone look into RedBean yet? |
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| 17:28.31 | carmony | utahcon: whats redbean? |
| 17:28.50 | SunSparc | Goes great with rice. |
| 17:29.04 | mindjuju | true that |
| 17:29.09 | utahcon | carmony: new ORM for PHP |
| 17:29.13 | utahcon | RedBeanPhp.com |
| 17:35.22 | carmony | wow... |
| 17:35.30 | carmony | having it automatically create fields for you |
| 17:35.34 | carmony | kind of scary... |
| 17:35.38 | utahcon | carmony: agreed |
| 17:35.42 | beandog | postgres? |
| 17:35.46 | utahcon | going to play with it today if I get some time. |
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| 17:36.00 | carmony | I hope that is only in "dev mode" |
| 17:36.05 | beandog | whats an ORM |
| 17:36.11 | carmony | or you can turn it off completely |
| 17:36.17 | carmony | Object Relation Mapping? |
| 17:36.29 | utahcon | yah |
| 17:36.40 | influx | "What do we usually do this kind of task?" |
| 17:36.58 | beandog | ooh a tutorial video |
| 17:37.01 | utahcon | influx: yeah his english is not the best |
| 17:38.26 | beandog | hey it uses InnoDB by default |
| 17:38.33 | beandog | That gives him some credibility |
| 17:39.11 | beandog | I wonder what data types the objects are. |
| 17:39.15 | beandog | oh |
| 17:39.17 | beandog | Hmm. |
| 17:39.28 | josephscott | suggesting people create root accounts on MySQL with no password cost him all credibility |
| 17:39.30 | beandog | that would be the tricky part. |
| 17:39.38 | utahcon | josephscott: only in dev |
| 17:39.43 | utahcon | but I agree |
| 17:39.53 | beandog | Looks like it dynamically changes the data types of columns |
| 17:39.56 | beandog | *that* could get ugly. |
| 17:42.26 | utahcon | beandog: you can freeze the DB structure |
| 17:42.56 | beandog | oh okay |
| 17:42.57 | beandog | thats good |
| 17:43.58 | mgeary | whatcha all lookin' at? |
| 17:44.12 | utahcon | mgeary: Redbeanphp.com |
| 17:44.19 | beandog | <utahcon> RedBeanPhp.com |
| 17:54.50 | PoeticIntensity | ~karma PoeticIntensity |
| 17:54.50 | ibot | poeticintensity has karma of 3 |
| 17:56.57 | mgeary | ~pity PoeticIntensity |
| 17:56.57 | ibot | I pity da fool PoeticIntensity! |
| 17:59.12 | PoeticIntensity | heh... |
| 18:00.58 | mgeary | ~karma mgeary |
| 18:00.58 | ibot | mgeary has karma of 24 |
| 18:01.03 | mgeary | woot |
| 18:01.08 | PoeticIntensity | showoff. |
| 18:01.15 | mgeary | ~karma fungus |
| 18:01.15 | ibot | fungus has karma of 27 |
| 18:01.23 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 18:01.54 | Zelut | ~karma Zelut |
| 18:01.54 | ibot | zelut has karma of 1 |
| 18:01.58 | Zelut | sadness |
| 18:02.34 | SunSparc | Your karma builds as you help others and they ++ you. |
| 18:02.50 | SunSparc | Or in the case of mgeary you just ++ yourself. :) |
| 18:03.06 | Zelut | you'd think the bot would have a check for that. |
| 18:03.08 | mgeary | yep. that's the trick |
| 18:03.32 | SunSparc | mgeary is magic |
| 18:03.55 | Zelut | irc dupes are easy enough to come by I suppose |
| 18:10.59 | mindjuju | oh noes |
| 18:12.52 | mindjuju | ~apb carmony, justincarmony and any other carmony name |
| 18:12.52 | ibot | ACTION hires Leland to find carmony, justincarmony and any other carmony name |
| 18:12.59 | carmony | lol |
| 18:13.16 | carmony | need a topic for thursday? |
| 18:14.36 | beandog | "PHP developers and the women that love them" |
| 18:15.05 | mindjuju | beandog, tghat could be a good topic |
| 18:15.09 | mindjuju | Dating and PHP |
| 18:15.13 | mindjuju | want to do it? |
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| 18:15.24 | beandog | I would, except I don't know any women. |
| 18:15.39 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:16.04 | josephscott | I thought something was already scheduled for this month |
| 18:16.26 | mindjuju | yes |
| 18:16.31 | mindjuju | but we have the meet split now |
| 18:16.39 | mindjuju | so we have a beginners presentation |
| 18:16.48 | mindjuju | that's done by carmony, and that's the topic i needed |
| 18:17.13 | beandog | how about "Why MySQL sucks rocks, and you should use Postgres" |
| 18:17.18 | carmony | lol |
| 18:17.23 | josephscott | I'm trying to line things up so I can be there, I'm curious to hear what the stackable people have to say |
| 18:17.37 | mindjuju | yeah, me too |
| 18:17.59 | beandog | mindjuju, you can put me down for that one anytime |
| 18:18.18 | carmony | llol |
| 18:18.20 | beandog | for an encore, I can do "Scientific links between using MSSQL and sterility" |
| 18:18.48 | carmony | Oh no! |
| 18:18.55 | carmony | What if you were forces to use MSSQL? |
| 18:18.59 | carmony | forced* |
| 18:19.20 | josephscott | carmony: there are not enough tears in the world |
| 18:19.27 | beandog | josephscott, lol |
| 18:19.36 | carmony | LOL |
| 18:19.48 | beandog | Everytime you use SQL Server, God kills a unicorn |
| 18:20.03 | josephscott | though MySpace seems to manage - http://perspectives.mvdirona.com/2010/02/15/ScalingAtMySpace.aspx |
| 18:20.13 | ninnypants | so that's what happened to them |
| 18:20.21 | josephscott | there are worse things to be using I suppose |
| 18:21.13 | beandog | anyone have a copy of OS/2 |
| 18:21.38 | josephscott | I don't remember if I got rid of my OS/2 CDs |
| 18:22.21 | mpxm | at Velocity last year, i witnessed two myspace engineers get drunk and progressively take down web servers to demonstrate their scalability. it was hilarious/frightening. |
| 18:22.46 | beandog | lol, that is awesome |
| 18:22.54 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:23.39 | josephscott | if you are at the scale of Myspace taking down a few web servers shouldn't make any difference at all |
| 18:23.58 | beandog | if anything, it should make the world a better place |
| 18:24.29 | beandog | "oh noes, my i <3 twilightz!!@!!@2234 page is down!" |
| 18:25.07 | josephscott | anyone with that much traffic is going to have plenty of buffer to handle spikes, dead hardware, etc. |
| 18:25.10 | mpxm | the point of the demo was to illustrate the effect on response time. they took down a dozen or so at a time until they saw response times increase. |
| 18:25.32 | mpxm | it was interesting, but the level of intoxication just made it sorta surreal |
| 18:26.30 | josephscott | I'd prefer developers not commit code while drunk, but it happens |
| 18:26.42 | carmony | haha |
| 18:27.17 | mpxm | i don't mind if they're drunk, but i'd mind a little more if they were doing it in public at a conference |
| 18:27.36 | carmony | I've seen some pretty wacked "drunk code" |
| 18:27.56 | josephscott | subversion beer goggles? |
| 18:42.31 | DexterTheDragon | http://a.deveria.com/caniuse/ |
| 18:42.31 | DexterTheDragon | summary: IE 8.0: 28%, Firefox 3.6: 81%, Safari 4.0: 85%, Chrome 4.0: 87%, Opera 10.1: 60% |
| 18:42.55 | mgeary | gee. way to go IE |
| 18:43.16 | DexterTheDragon | and thats 8. you should see 6 |
| 18:43.26 | mgeary | no. i really don't want to |
| 18:58.44 | brasto | Hey guys, I'm moving from my Verio server to a Linode server and I'm encountering something odd. If I go to http://chsalumni.net/ it gives me the page that is in the main doc root in /var/www/html . However, if I go to http://chsalumni.net/index.php, I get the right page. |
| 18:59.05 | brasto | btw, it won't happen to any of you because you'll still see the site on the old server. |
| 18:59.20 | brasto | so any ideas what's causing this? |
| 19:01.04 | brasto | also, the 'right page' is in a the virtual host's doc root: /home/brasto/www/chsalumni |
| 19:15.43 | brasto | Add this to /etc/hosts if you want to see it in action: 69.164.194.190 chsalumni.net |
| 19:15.50 | brasto | but don't forget to remove it. |
| 19:17.57 | brasto | s/remove it/remove it later/ |
| 19:59.42 | fungus | brasto, check the DirectoryIndex order in your apache conf |
| 19:59.57 | mgeary | ~hungry |
| 19:59.58 | ibot | hmm... hungry is http://www.thehungersite.com/ or http://www.thehungersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/HungerSite or http://www.hungryminds.com/ |
| 20:00.08 | mgeary | ~hungry mgeary |
| 20:00.09 | fungus | Then check the host names and aliases in your vhost definition to make sure they match |
| 20:00.26 | beandog | I think I'm addicted to Cafe Rio |
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| 20:03.09 | beandog | Good food has ruined me for life. |
| 20:03.34 | JacobEdmondKerrU | LOL.. |
| 20:03.35 | beandog | I wonder if Harmons sells peanut butter bras |
| 20:03.40 | beandog | er *bars |
| 20:03.58 | JacobEdmondKerrU | I wonder how hard it is to roll back a MySQL DB... |
| 20:04.04 | JacobEdmondKerrU | just one database. |
| 20:04.13 | Utah_Dave | :) nice slip, beandog! |
| 20:04.16 | JacobEdmondKerrU | on FreeBSD |
| 20:05.23 | beandog | http://www.traipse.com/upgrade/ |
| 20:09.21 | beandog | wtc |
| 20:09.26 | beandog | http://www.traipse.com/signals/index.html |
| 20:10.30 | jsmith | JacobEdmondKerrU: What do you mean by "roll back"? Downgrade? |
| 20:12.33 | JacobEdmondKerrU | no backup but I got ahold of my admin so it's all good. |
| 20:22.52 | brasto | fungus: I had index.php last in order for DirectoryIndex, which should work fine since there was no other index file. I moved it to the front of the order just to test, and still have the same problem. The vhost has the same config as the working server except for 3 lines: |
| 20:23.14 | brasto | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.14 | brasto | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.14 | brasto | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.44 | brasto | ServerName and ServerAlias are correct |
| 20:24.24 | brasto | otherwise, I wouldn't even get the right with or without manually specifying index.php |
| 20:25.45 | brasto | When requesting chsalumni.net , I get this in the error logs: |
| 20:25.48 | brasto | [Tue Feb 16 20:25:09 2010] [error] [client 67.182.203.21] Options FollowSymLinks or SymLinksIfOwnerMatch is off which implies that RewriteRule directive is forbidden: /home/brasto/www/chsalumni/ |
| 20:26.05 | brasto | I have Options FollowSymLinks set |
| 20:27.11 | brasto | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.11 | brasto | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.11 | brasto | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.11 | brasto | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.49 | beandog | eggyknap, wtc? That video is .. wow |
| 20:53.09 | eggyknap | heh |
| 20:53.15 | beandog | I kept waiting for the laugh track |
| 20:58.44 | brasto | Here's the whole vhost: |
| 20:58.46 | brasto | http://apache.pastebin.ca/1798936 |
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| 21:12.55 | brasto | and log entries: http://apache.pastebin.ca/1798959 |
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| 21:32.30 | brasto | hmmmm, I renamed .htaccess and the problem went away. |
| 21:33.08 | brasto | so maybe the .htaccess rewrite rules were conflicting with the rewrite rule I had in the vhost config? |
| 21:35.39 | thebigdog | probably |
| 21:40.00 | brasto | My vhost rewrite is only meant to take the www. off if people request www.chsalumni.net instead of chsalumni.net. If I put that rule in .htaccess instead, the next update I do to drupal will strip out any custom changes, so I have to have it in the vhost. Furthermore, if I customize .htaccess so that my directive works in the vhost, it's still overwrite my changes... Do I have to do a separate virtualhost for the www domain and redirect |
| 21:45.29 | Zelut | "After hours party at Applebees 8:45pm at Applebees" |
| 21:45.37 | thebigdog | brasto you dont need rewrite to remove the www |
| 21:45.45 | thebigdog | just make sure you have serveralias |
| 21:45.50 | mindjuju | grrrr, i meant to put applebees at draper |
| 21:45.54 | mindjuju | ...sigh... |
| 21:46.23 | thebigdog | is tonight the meeting? |
| 21:46.31 | mindjuju | no Thursday |
| 21:46.31 | brasto | thebigdog: but then I'll have 2 sites up with the same content, which is what I was trying to avoid. |
| 21:46.33 | mindjuju | the 18th |
| 21:46.54 | thebigdog | they woudl point to the same docroot |
| 21:47.02 | thebigdog | so you dont have 2 sites |
| 21:47.09 | thebigdog | you just access it with 2 names |
| 21:47.10 | thebigdog | same site |
| 21:47.16 | thebigdog | thus alias |
| 21:48.46 | brasto | yes, that's what I meant. But I prefer to enforce one alias out of all the others for SEO. In addition, some poorly written scripts use full URLs instead of relative ones, and the full urls will work for one alias and not another. |
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| 21:49.29 | brasto | e.g.: If I remember right, Wordpress has a hard-coded entry for your url in a database. If you access the site with a different name, some scripts break |
| 21:49.29 | trevynm | hello |
| 21:49.39 | trevynm | brasto: hi |
| 21:49.40 | trevynm | http://pastebin.com/mff58c97 |
| 21:49.44 | trevynm | you were doing ldap the other day right? |
| 21:49.46 | thebigdog | brasto: oh ok |
| 21:49.47 | brasto | hi trevyn |
| 21:49.50 | brasto | yep |
| 21:50.02 | trevynm | brasto: mind helping me for a min? you busy? |
| 21:50.30 | trevynm | I can pay you for some time too, so if not now, let me knwo when your available |
| 21:51.28 | trevynm | brasto: if you google around there are 3 queries or sql statements you shold run to update your wordpress DB |
| 21:51.33 | trevynm | if it has been moved. |
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| 21:52.02 | trevynm | thebigdog: is that what happened with your WP site? |
| 21:52.09 | trevynm | not sure if that was helpfull or not |
| 21:52.25 | brasto | trevyn, I was only giving an example of a problem with using site aliases. |
| 21:52.37 | trevynm | I see, nvm then |
| 21:52.42 | brasto | and why I have a rule that rewrites all requests to the one main request |
| 21:53.12 | brasto | I can probably help. My other contract just got completed so I was about to contact you trevyn |
| 21:53.35 | brasto | with a space in your name, I can't autocomplete your screen name Trevyn Meyer |
| 21:53.57 | brasto | I didn't even know you could put a space in an irc nick 'till just now.... interesting |
| 21:54.01 | trevynm | should be trevyn |
| 21:54.09 | brasto | ah |
| 21:54.12 | trevynm | or trevynm |
| 21:54.16 | brasto | i see, I set an alias for you in my client |
| 21:54.24 | brasto | that's whey I'm seeing the space. |
| 21:54.25 | brasto | lol |
| 21:54.31 | brasto | maybe I better remove the alias. |
| 21:55.01 | thebigdog | trevynm: no that is just how i setup all my vhosts |
| 21:55.55 | trevynm | brasto: I have a nagios/mrtg project if you ahve time |
| 21:56.03 | trevynm | the ldap one is for my internal projects |
| 21:56.21 | trevynm | the nagios/mrtg one I could get ou some good hours. |
| 21:57.57 | trevynm | brasto: http://pastebin.com/m5437dc68 |
| 22:00.57 | brasto | ah, I had to move on to another project and someone took over the ldap project. |
| 22:01.20 | brasto | s/had to move/moved/ |
| 22:02.28 | brasto | are you trying to set up a pdc using samba and ldap, or just have an ldap server? |
| 22:07.40 | romanovic | mgeary: ping |
| 22:09.38 | trevynm | brasto: just an ldap server that I can have SVN and Bugzilla work with |
| 22:09.43 | trevynm | and have som essytems authenticate from it |
| 22:10.02 | trevynm | so that giving access to new hires/terminating contractors connectivity is easier to manage |
| 22:20.59 | brasto | trevynm: sent a pm |
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| 22:27.31 | JacobEdmondKerrU | is there anyway move_uploaded_file() will pass true if the uploaded file was not moved? |
| 22:31.30 | trevynm | JacobEdmondKerrU: it does do that |
| 22:31.36 | trevynm | if(move_.... |
| 22:31.42 | JacobEdmondKerrU | yeah.. |
| 22:32.14 | JacobEdmondKerrU | Arg so that condition does not work eh? |
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| 23:22.14 | mindjuju | supernovia |
| 23:22.16 | mindjuju | you're just in time |
| 23:22.29 | mindjuju | i need you to translate something CRTICALLY important |
| 23:22.38 | supernovia | hehe, hey |
| 23:22.45 | supernovia | Me, translate? |
| 23:22.46 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtacFlDUjRM |
| 23:23.03 | mindjuju | it's something in russian about turning your car into a tank |
| 23:23.08 | mindjuju | RAD! |
| 23:23.39 | mindjuju | i need that so bad |
| 23:23.50 | supernovia | hehe, that is of critical importances |
| 23:23.57 | supernovia | er, importance |
| 23:23.58 | mindjuju | that footage from like 47 seconds into the vid is so cool |
| 23:24.18 | supernovia | They're using lots of words I don't know but they sound like they're being theoretical about it so far |
| 23:24.57 | mindjuju | a thing like that could totally change my feelings about utah being a funless frozen tundra |
| 23:26.37 | supernovia | hehe, simply by putting your car on this platform you can turn it into a tank |
| 23:27.03 | mindjuju | cool! |
| 23:27.20 | supernovia | that's probaby the only full sentence I could pick out |
| 23:27.41 | supernovia | practically anyplace... |
| 23:27.58 | supernovia | yeah my russian sucks. Where are those chelovekee with the cameras? |
| 23:28.28 | supernovia | (I could only pick out what was totally obvious; all the techy terms are over my head) |
| 23:28.55 | supernovia | hehe, that is super cool though. Need to do that to the corolla |
| 23:29.11 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 23:38.01 | supernovia | here we go :) http://www.youtube.com/user/readru |
| 23:39.27 | supernovia | someone has to take away my russian card. alas. |
| 23:40.03 | influx | Nyet. |
| 23:41.07 | supernovia | it's been 13 years since I was there. yikes. |
| 23:41.39 | romanovic | hahaha |
| 23:41.45 | romanovic | just saw that video, i wants one |
| 23:42.06 | supernovia | hehe |
| 23:42.33 | romanovic | says, some engineers in the southern urals invented it, and there is a lot of interest in it now |
| 23:42.57 | romanovic | it has some mechanism to connect the steering wheel of the car to the platform |
| 23:43.18 | romanovic | "easily goes thru deep snow, and steering is no different than regular driving" |
| 23:43.57 | romanovic | "great for fishers and hunters to get to their hunting spot" |
| 23:44.15 | romanovic | currently works for rear wheel drive vehicles and 4-wheel drive vehicles |
| 23:44.22 | romanovic | soon will work for any automobile |
| 23:44.51 | redroy | So I want to join a table but I only want to get the most recent (by date, or id) from the joined result⦠is there a way to sort the joined table? http://pastebin.com/d9890f6f |
| 23:45.24 | supernovia | of course :) |
| 23:45.45 | supernovia | and thanks romanovic :) |
| 23:46.28 | romanovic | but they didn't state where/when all of us can buy one ;) |
| 23:46.32 | supernovia | hehe |
| 23:46.35 | romanovic | least, not that i picked up |
| 23:46.46 | supernovia | maybe it'll be open source too :) |
| 23:47.33 | redroy | I've also tried something along these lines: http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?20,135077,135107#msg-135107 but I don't want to force the first join |
| 23:47.59 | supernovia | redroy is your id a key? maybe your join is goofy if you're having to group by id |
| 23:48.48 | thebigdog | redroy: you can do a select in the join and limit it |
| 23:48.51 | thebigdog | however you want |
| 23:49.47 | redroy | supernovia: yes it's primary. thebigdog: I'll give that a try, thanks |
| 23:56.48 | Zelut | found this re: our recent discussion on interns (paid vs unpaid) |
| 23:56.53 | Zelut | http://laborlaw.typepad.com/labor_and_employment_law_/2007/11/unpaid-internsh.html |