| 00:20.22 | mgeary | this hiphop info page is interesting, but they make one fundamentally-flawed assumption |
| 00:20.32 | mgeary | : that php is a good programming language |
| 00:20.40 | mgeary | "If you are making an argument to recode your entire site from PHP to some other language, the answer is you just lost that argument." |
| 00:21.16 | mgeary | i mean, i agree it's silly to recode a working app just because you don't like PHP, but the article implies that all programming languages are equally effective from a coder perspective |
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| 00:25.30 | beandog | o la |
| 00:26.58 | mgeary | oh la la |
| 00:53.40 | romanovic | 50 minutes left... |
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| 01:32.13 | wps | what's up, thebigdog? |
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| 03:02.27 | beandog | yee har |
| 03:02.29 | beandog | Narnia 2 was good |
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| 04:43.09 | mgeary | romanovic: ping |
| 04:44.06 | beandog | http://cryingwife.com/ |
| 04:47.48 | justincarmony | beandog: LOL, I saw that today too |
| 04:47.54 | justincarmony | where did you find it? |
| 04:47.58 | beandog | justincarmony: twitter |
| 05:02.31 | beandog | I cant remember what time I go to bed |
| 05:02.38 | wps | now |
| 05:02.46 | beandog | it was either 10 or 11 |
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| 05:12.00 | beandog | ~seen fungus |
| 05:12.01 | ibot | fungus <~olsonl@bromine.sosstaffing.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 9h 59m 38s ago, saying: 'really?'. |
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| 05:18.25 | beandog | wtc |
| 05:18.29 | beandog | comcast -> xfinity? |
| 05:18.34 | beandog | I seriously thought they were kidding |
| 05:18.42 | beandog | http://consumerist.com/2010/02/comcast-rebranding-itself-as-xfinity.html |
| 05:19.08 | wps | that's stupid |
| 05:19.21 | beandog | its a dumb name, to begin with |
| 05:19.33 | wps | why dump your brand equity? |
| 05:21.59 | wps | This Weight Watchers Meal Includes A Free Frozen Frog |
| 05:22.01 | wps | http://consumerist.com/2010/01/this-weight-watchers-meal-includes-a-free-frozen-frog.html |
| 05:22.10 | beandog | consumerist++ |
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| 14:42.45 | justincarmony | Man... why do I need to work out? My body should just naturally absorb what it needs when I heat, and send the rest out to be recycled... :P |
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| 16:20.47 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 16:20.48 | ibot | chops Dezertol in half with a free AOL CD |
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| 16:41.09 | utahcon | Tee hee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew9cEATPzDE -- Bud Light Clothing Drive |
| 16:41.11 | utahcon | censored |
| 17:13.02 | influx | Can I hav strrpos() search for the string even though it only returns the position of the first character in that string? |
| 17:14.54 | utahcon | influx: sure |
| 17:14.57 | ninnypants | yes |
| 17:15.16 | influx | Cool. :) |
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| 17:19.19 | redroy | Morning gents, I'm having trouble sending mail with php and the server guys asked if I could send it via "smart host" ? Wouldn't that be a server configuration? |
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| 17:27.55 | fungus | server config in terms of php config |
| 17:27.59 | influx | Oh. Also: Can I use PCRE in non-preg functions? |
| 17:28.34 | jsmith | redroy: Yes, or you could code something in PHP to send the mail to the smart host |
| 17:28.37 | fungus | redroy, you have two options, configure a local MTA to use a smart host, or configure PHP mail to send to their smtp server |
| 17:30.34 | redroy | cool, I think I can handle the latter |
| 17:39.18 | utahcon | influx: what commands do you want to use PCRE in? |
| 17:44.41 | influx | strrpos() |
| 17:46.12 | mindjuju | ~rlart |
| 17:46.13 | ibot | readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at optikal |
| 17:46.38 | mindjuju | ~seen Lone_Wanderer |
| 17:46.44 | ibot | lone_wanderer <n=Dan@c-98-202-123-90.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 13d 17h 31m 45s ago, saying: 'see you all at the meeting'. |
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| 17:47.29 | justincarmony | ..... I wish FedEx would get here :P |
| 17:47.30 | influx | utahcon: strrpos() |
| 17:48.18 | utahcon | influx: strrpos() will treat the PCRE statement as a string. So no. |
| 17:48.35 | influx | :( |
| 17:49.09 | influx | I'm trying to find the last instance of /.[A-Za-z]{3}|.[A-Za-z]{4}/ in a string so I can remove it. |
| 17:49.09 | mindjuju | anybody looking for a job that wants to move to idaho? |
| 17:49.11 | ninnypants | you could always use preg_match and use the match in strrpos |
| 17:49.17 | DexterTheDragon | justincarmony: me too |
| 17:49.21 | influx | True. |
| 17:49.29 | influx | Thanks ninnypants. |
| 17:49.29 | justincarmony | what are you waiting for DexterTheDragon ? |
| 17:49.43 | DexterTheDragon | mah phone |
| 17:50.33 | mindjuju | i've got it herlo |
| 17:50.33 | herlo | there is a free trial month at stackable.com -- it's a new XMission venture |
| 17:51.05 | mindjuju | and xmission is going to have a spot at the next UPHPU meet to talk about stackable |
| 17:51.19 | herlo | mindjuju: are they buying pizza? |
| 17:51.33 | influx | elite pizza |
| 17:51.48 | herlo | well, wow |
| 17:51.49 | DexterTheDragon | uphpu doesn't do pizza. it does applebee's |
| 17:51.57 | herlo | I've never heard of 'elite' pizza, but okay! |
| 17:52.00 | mindjuju | yeah, applebees |
| 17:52.08 | herlo | are they buying applebees? |
| 17:52.33 | mindjuju | i didn't ask |
| 17:52.46 | DexterTheDragon | ~fail mindjuju |
| 17:52.47 | ibot | You suck at everything in life, mindjuju. I hate you because you fail. |
| 17:53.03 | mindjuju | ...sigh... |
| 17:53.41 | mindjuju | I think UPHPU does well enough on its own |
| 17:53.53 | mindjuju | swag from time to time is good |
| 17:54.05 | mindjuju | and books get reviews |
| 17:54.17 | mindjuju | but begging for $$; not really my style |
| 17:54.19 | DexterTheDragon | broken any arms yet mindjuju? |
| 17:54.36 | mindjuju | funny you mention that, herlo keeps forgetting to send me the picture of the white board |
| 17:55.46 | justincarmony | lol |
| 17:55.59 | justincarmony | my "JavaScript: The Good Parts" book is actually really good |
| 17:56.01 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:56.02 | justincarmony | and really thin :) |
| 17:56.07 | utahcon | I hate you |
| 17:56.07 | utahcon | :D |
| 17:56.36 | mindjuju | so, anybody need a job wanting to move to idaho or living in idaho? |
| 17:56.43 | mindjuju | land of napoleon dynamite? |
| 17:57.25 | utahcon | mindjuju: Does it pay upwards of $1.8B/year? |
| 17:57.41 | mindjuju | it says DOE, so maybe |
| 17:58.17 | utahcon | I don't know that I have $1.8B of E, but damned if I wouldn't try to prove it. |
| 17:58.26 | fungus | herlo: the invite gives you a free month on stackable? |
| 17:58.43 | mindjuju | yes, free month |
| 17:59.02 | fungus | cool. That was my only barrier to try it. |
| 17:59.17 | fungus | Sounds really cool. |
| 17:59.27 | mindjuju | yup |
| 17:59.29 | fungus | I want to get in and steal all their ideas. :) |
| 17:59.36 | mindjuju | like i say, they'll be at uphpu to talk about it |
| 17:59.43 | fungus | for personal use... |
| 17:59.53 | justincarmony | do they have a price list somewhere? |
| 17:59.53 | utahcon | lol |
| 17:59.59 | justincarmony | for stackable |
| 18:00.23 | utahcon | justincarmony: Yeah... stackable.com |
| 18:00.24 | fungus | utahcon, maybe I can replicate that environment for your dev stuff. :) |
| 18:00.39 | utahcon | that'd be cool |
| 18:00.57 | justincarmony | lol |
| 18:00.59 | justincarmony | I missed that |
| 18:01.01 | fungus | but don't hold your breath. It took them 2 years.... :( |
| 18:01.08 | justincarmony | is that ram? |
| 18:01.13 | fungus | yes, ram |
| 18:02.02 | justincarmony | do is it a single instance? |
| 18:02.15 | justincarmony | or can you deploy whatever VMs on top of that alloted gig |
| 18:02.22 | utahcon | justincarmony: Perhaps you should RTFM http://stackable.com/faq.html |
| 18:02.28 | justincarmony | lol |
| 18:02.29 | utahcon | I guess technically that is RTFF |
| 18:02.39 | justincarmony | I will read the fabulous FAQ ;) |
| 18:02.56 | fungus | heh, I think he meant the other F word. |
| 18:04.34 | herlo | fungus: it does!!! :) |
| 18:04.40 | fungus | woot |
| 18:05.15 | josephscott | perhaps I'm missing something, but the stackable prices seem pretty high |
| 18:05.24 | utahcon | josephscott: agreed |
| 18:05.28 | herlo | utahcon: fab? |
| 18:05.37 | fungus | only if you compare them to crappy cutthroat garbage hosts. |
| 18:05.43 | utahcon | herlo: 18:02 |
| 18:05.49 | herlo | josephscott: I think the prices are for the extra services. Compare to linode... |
| 18:05.55 | herlo | utahcon: 17:44 |
| 18:06.11 | josephscott | compare to EC2 or dedicated server |
| 18:06.19 | utahcon | herlo: your face! |
| 18:06.20 | herlo | if you take away the extra dashboard and the deployment tools, you don't get those with linode |
| 18:06.26 | herlo | utahcon: your ass |
| 18:06.32 | herlo | er, your an ass, even on your birthday |
| 18:06.33 | utahcon | herlo: your mom's face! |
| 18:06.43 | herlo | utahcon: your dad's face! |
| 18:06.46 | utahcon | ah... you remembered! |
| 18:06.48 | utahcon | twice on facebook |
| 18:06.50 | utahcon | :D |
| 18:06.54 | herlo | utahcon: look at your facebooks :) |
| 18:06.58 | herlo | damn! |
| 18:06.59 | utahcon | ^^ |
| 18:07.11 | herlo | utahcon: lunch? |
| 18:07.17 | utahcon | when, where? |
| 18:07.27 | utahcon | free birfday lunch?! |
| 18:07.30 | utahcon | I am in! |
| 18:07.30 | herlo | dunno, where do you wanna go? |
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| 18:07.39 | utahcon | uh... |
| 18:07.41 | herlo | hi swb |
| 18:07.48 | swb | hiya |
| 18:07.53 | herlo | utahcon: just don't say mcdonald's and we can still be friends... |
| 18:08.05 | josephscott | I don't understand this sentence: |
| 18:08.07 | josephscott | We wanted our containers to be reliable and powerful so we built each a high-performance CentOS 5.3 Apache web server built on Sun Microsystems⢠hardware with Xeon processors. |
| 18:08.24 | josephscott | when did Apache become the most high performance/scalable web server? |
| 18:08.33 | utahcon | josephscott: last night |
| 18:08.40 | herlo | josephscott: tomorrow? |
| 18:08.52 | utahcon | herlo is right |
| 18:08.59 | utahcon | there is also free crab tomorrow |
| 18:09.06 | herlo | josephscott: to be honest, apache is *very* scalable, but it depends on what needs you have to accomplish tasks... |
| 18:09.09 | herlo | utahcon: where! |
| 18:09.23 | influx | Free crab? |
| 18:09.26 | influx | What? |
| 18:09.33 | herlo | influx: didn't say it was free, you are buying |
| 18:09.33 | justincarmony | lol, josephscott, you're in a different class :P I doubt WordPress.com would install entirely on stackable :P |
| 18:09.33 | josephscott | scalable is relative, and when compared to other options Apache is generally not at the top of the list |
| 18:09.42 | influx | :( |
| 18:09.56 | utahcon | herlo: ... thinking |
| 18:09.58 | utahcon | suggestions? |
| 18:10.00 | herlo | josephscott: as I stated before, I think it really depends on your load and what you are doing... |
| 18:10.15 | josephscott | don't get me wrong, I like Apache, it does lots of cool, nice things, but high end performance? don't think so |
| 18:10.19 | herlo | utahcon: uh, we could do smashburger? |
| 18:10.23 | utahcon | done! |
| 18:10.29 | herlo | albeit, I'll get in trouble, but that's okay |
| 18:10.31 | herlo | :) |
| 18:10.36 | herlo | utahcon: 11:30ish? |
| 18:10.38 | utahcon | trouble with the s0? |
| 18:10.43 | josephscott | herlo: that's why I said I don't understand that statement, seems to be self contradicting |
| 18:10.46 | utahcon | yeah, meet you there? |
| 18:10.49 | herlo | utahcon: yeah, but not as much as you would :) |
| 18:10.59 | utahcon | almost wrote meat you there :D |
| 18:11.52 | josephscott | mindjuju: someone will be talking about stackable at next UPHPU meeting? |
| 18:12.01 | mindjuju | yes |
| 18:12.03 | herlo | josephscott: I would argue that apache is the best known web server, is very scalable, and if you are running a highly available set of servers, it does a great job. I understand that you prefer lighttpd or nginx to apache... |
| 18:12.08 | herlo | and I'm not really arguing... |
| 18:12.10 | josephscott | cool, I'd be curious to hear more |
| 18:12.27 | mindjuju | yup, xmission rep comjing out to talk about it |
| 18:12.39 | mindjuju | we're hammering down the last of the details as we speak |
| 18:12.39 | utahcon | josephscott: for stackable Apache is probaby the most common used web server, and would be most requested. |
| 18:12.41 | josephscott | herlo: using that argument we should all be using Windows 2000 on our servers ;-) |
| 18:12.49 | utahcon | not that I can think of much that would be web server reliant... but |
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| 18:12.59 | herlo | josephscott: no, I think that's the point |
| 18:13.09 | herlo | josephscott: choice is what makes free software better |
| 18:13.22 | utahcon | stupid windows |
| 18:13.22 | herlo | thus, you think one thing and you are right... |
| 18:13.27 | influx | (I choo-choo-choose you.) |
| 18:13.28 | herlo | but I am also right in my thoughts |
| 18:13.31 | mindjuju | having seen josephscott get rowdy at the iphone dev meet the other day, i don't recommend arguing |
| 18:13.36 | josephscott | I'm just saying that they could have described that better/more accurately |
| 18:13.38 | herlo | because the situations are different |
| 18:13.39 | mindjuju | :) |
| 18:13.54 | herlo | josephscott: :) or they are just using words that business folk kind of know |
| 18:14.03 | utahcon | buzz words! |
| 18:14.12 | utahcon | they should have said they full support AJAX and Web3.0 |
| 18:14.16 | josephscott | Apache is super flexible, well understood, focus on it's strong points, instead of trying to making odd ball claims |
| 18:15.19 | josephscott | hopefully I'll make the next meeting, I'll be curious to find out more |
| 18:15.19 | herlo | utahcon: we're on web 10.0, get with the game! |
| 18:15.33 | justincarmony | josephscott: I doubt whoever wrote that statement on the website is a web engineer, but a marketing person :P |
| 18:16.15 | utahcon | justincarmony: logic |
| 18:16.34 | josephscott | letting marketing write technical descriptions doesn't fill me with confidence :-) |
| 18:17.41 | justincarmony | lol |
| 18:18.09 | justincarmony | so the other day, my boss canceled a subscription to a service w/o realizing it was still controlling our DNS |
| 18:18.18 | influx | What's scheduled for the newbie first half? |
| 18:18.22 | influx | of the next meeting |
| 18:18.35 | josephscott | justincarmony: eek! |
| 18:18.45 | utahcon | influx: use of strrpos() by influx |
| 18:18.59 | justincarmony | I think I'm going to cover either security or bootstrapping :P |
| 18:19.01 | influx | Heh. |
| 18:19.17 | utahcon | justincarmony: bootstrapping... with or without framework? |
| 18:19.35 | justincarmony | justincarmony: discuss how some frameworks do it, and how to do your own :P |
| 18:21.08 | mindjuju | anybody looking for .net contract? |
| 18:21.44 | redroy | justincarmony, is that for this month's meeting? |
| 18:22.34 | justincarmony | redroy: I'm thinking about doing that for the fundamentals part |
| 18:23.16 | redroy | very cool |
| 18:23.41 | justincarmony | people don't talk about bootstrapping very often |
| 18:23.49 | justincarmony | and doing it wrong can cause LOTS of headaches |
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| 18:24.05 | influx | mindjuju: work? |
| 18:24.38 | redroy | I'm really excited to start hitting these meetings now that I'll have time, I don't live too far away either, drive past everyday |
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| 18:26.45 | jtsnow | local Drupal meeting next week if anyone is interested: http://groups.drupal.org/node/45760 |
| 18:26.55 | herlo | jtsnow: pm |
| 18:29.07 | justincarmony | mindjuju: when is the next open spot for a presentation w/ uphpu? |
| 18:29.10 | jtsnow | better than Joomla ;) |
| 18:29.19 | utahcon | no argument there |
| 18:32.17 | mindjuju | march |
| 18:32.47 | mindjuju | feb is taken, april is taken |
| 18:33.37 | mindjuju | utahcon, is today your birthday? |
| 18:36.07 | justincarmony | mindjuju: I was talking with Cal Evans about the idea of having PHP experts outside of Utah that we could have do a remote presentation, kinda like we did with stderr |
| 18:36.45 | mindjuju | yeah? |
| 18:39.18 | justincarmony | yeah, he said he'd be willing to be a guinea pig, maybe do a presentation on Project Management |
| 18:41.10 | Zelut | I've somehow confused myself with a scope issue. I have a function that generates an array using mysql_fetch_array(). I need access to that array outside of the function. |
| 18:41.22 | Zelut | do I just need to return $array;, is that adequate? |
| 18:42.30 | redroy | sure, that'd work |
| 18:42.44 | redroy | $arr = yourfunction(); |
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| 19:22.08 | Zelut | what would be a simple way to print "field X required" at a specific entry in a form if the entry fails validation? |
| 19:23.40 | ninnypants | you can store all of your errors in an array or something to make and display whatever information you need to when the page is built |
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| 19:27.54 | justincarmony | looks like she isn't her, she goes by supernovia |
| 19:28.11 | brasto | lol |
| 19:28.54 | brasto | I was going to take another look at the servers in the company she worked for, though I think she's not there anymore. Anyone know what the company name was? |
| 19:29.39 | PoeticIntensity | join = joint |
| 19:29.49 | brasto | perhaps webmistress swb remembers... |
| 19:30.28 | PoeticIntensity | ~resurrect PoeticIntensity |
| 19:30.29 | ibot | ACTION gathers all his magical powers (and some prayin'!) and resurrects PoeticIntensity from the dead. |
| 19:30.38 | PoeticIntensity | huzzah! I live! |
| 19:31.36 | influx | brasto: Would you like to talk about Meso-American Sacrificial methods over lunch? |
| 19:32.06 | brasto | lol, well, since my lunch is done, maybe... not. |
| 19:32.13 | influx | Damnit. |
| 19:32.32 | brasto | lol |
| 19:32.36 | influx | <3 Emily Deschanel |
| 19:39.56 | PoeticIntensity | Hmmm..... Okay... Anyone have any good reg-ex tutorials or sites, or suggestions - while using regex within javascript? |
| 19:44.29 | macnewbold | PoeticIntensity: i've got a copy of the VisiBone cheat sheet for JS RegEx here somewhere |
| 19:44.31 | macnewbold | it's pretty good |
| 19:44.41 | macnewbold | there's a hi-res version of it online on his site that you could pull up if you want |
| 19:45.24 | PoeticIntensity | nice... |
| 19:45.26 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... that'd be awesome. |
| 19:45.31 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, macnewbold |
| 19:54.05 | justincarmony | DexterTheDragon: lol |
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| 20:05.26 | Zelut | what is wrong with this query? |
| 20:05.29 | Zelut | mysql_query("UPDATE accounts SET password=md5('{$_POST['password']}') WHERE username='{$_POST['username']}'") |
| 20:05.44 | Zelut | or die(mysql_error()); |
| 20:07.33 | ninnypants | your single quotes are messing with each other |
| 20:08.36 | DexterTheDragon | shouldn't be, they're in curly braces |
| 20:09.37 | jtsnow | hopefully you're cleaning the data from $_POST |
| 20:10.46 | Zelut | jtsnow: I am. |
| 20:11.41 | justincarmony | hahaha: http://clientsfromhell.tumblr.com/post/370972763/client-wed-like-to-make-it-easier-for-people-to |
| 20:14.31 | Zelut | I can't visit that site. I get stuck there for hours. |
| 20:21.42 | DexterTheDragon | that's why you visit regularly so you are caught up |
| 20:22.38 | redroy | awesome |
| 20:23.27 | utahcon | mindjuju: Yes, today is my birfday |
| 20:23.54 | utahcon | 29 years ago today my mother and father brought forth what will someday be known as the ruler of all things awesome... me |
| 20:25.58 | redroy | happy birthday! I turned 30 just recently... missed my goal of being retired by 30. Now it's 35 <sigh> |
| 20:26.24 | utahcon | good luck redroy |
| 20:26.32 | utahcon | I hope to be well on my way to $1.8B by 35 |
| 20:26.45 | DexterTheDragon | utahcon: guess what I got |
| 20:26.47 | mgeary | it's my daughter's birthday as well |
| 20:26.51 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon: I hate you |
| 20:26.56 | utahcon | mgeary: Yay! |
| 20:27.01 | utahcon | Today is also Facebook's b-day |
| 20:27.23 | DexterTheDragon | utahcon: lol |
| 20:27.27 | justincarmony | why 1.8 utahcon? |
| 20:27.53 | utahcon | justincarmony: why not? |
| 20:27.56 | utahcon | and |
| 20:27.58 | justincarmony | why not 2? |
| 20:28.01 | justincarmony | or 1.5? |
| 20:28.01 | utahcon | because $2.0B is greedy :D |
| 20:28.04 | justincarmony | LOL |
| 20:28.16 | redroy | he he |
| 20:28.20 | DexterTheDragon | because google bought youtube for 1.65B and he wants to out do them |
| 20:28.26 | justincarmony | lol |
| 20:28.46 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon: Actually I want to match the Omniture buyout. |
| 20:28.51 | utahcon | wasn't it $1.8B? |
| 20:29.05 | utahcon | but I want it individually... so then I can tell all Omniture Employees to suck it |
| 20:29.07 | DexterTheDragon | yeah |
| 20:30.14 | redroy | I'd be fine with 1.8M |
| 20:34.15 | mgeary | "He that is not handsome at 20, nor strong at 30, nor rich at 40, nor wise at 50, will never be handsome, strong, rich." -- George Herbert |
| 20:35.05 | mgeary | i missed out on handsome and strong, and things are looking pretty slim for rich, but i'll console myself that compared to 90% of the world's population, i guess we're all pretty rich |
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| 20:39.21 | redroy | oooh, that gives me 10 years to get rich |
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| 20:40.33 | ninnypants | still got 9 to get strong |
| 20:41.00 | mgeary | kids |
| 20:42.44 | mgeary | romanovic: ping |
| 20:43.47 | romanovic | mgeary: pong |
| 20:49.20 | justincarmony | josephscott: what was the weather forecast for SLC today? |
| 20:49.45 | josephscott | it's been snow forecasted for the last couple of days, and for the next few as well |
| 20:49.59 | justincarmony | lol |
| 20:50.01 | josephscott | not a single drop of snow at my house |
| 20:50.06 | justincarmony | its only half day so far |
| 20:50.37 | josephscott | when I look at the radar and don't see any clouds any where even close, I don't know why they forecast snow |
| 20:50.55 | mindjuju | i'm showing rain for fri, sat, sun |
| 20:51.06 | justincarmony | whose prediction? |
| 20:51.24 | josephscott | mindjuju: they showed the same thing for mon, tue, wed too |
| 20:51.51 | mindjuju | Weather data provided by Weather Underground, Inc. |
| 20:52.16 | mindjuju | DtD, you got the nexus one? |
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| 20:58.10 | influx | So, in PHP there's passing by reference, but there's also assigning to a variable a copy of something. |
| 20:58.21 | influx | What's the second thing called? |
| 20:58.26 | influx | passing by assignment? |
| 20:58.33 | fungus | passing by value |
| 20:58.38 | influx | thank you |
| 21:05.35 | PoeticIntensity | okay all regex people.... |
| 21:06.01 | PoeticIntensity | I am apparently inept at grasping the intricacies of how to write regex... |
| 21:06.29 | PoeticIntensity | in javascript, how would I verify someone is sending a string with a at least one number or symbol in it? |
| 21:06.41 | PoeticIntensity | So far, I have this, but my browser is barking at it... |
| 21:06.53 | PoeticIntensity | } else if(!object.value.match(/^\d+$/). /\d+/) { |
| 21:07.05 | PoeticIntensity | apparently there's something wrong with the "." |
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| 21:08.30 | stderr | .+\W+.* ? |
| 21:09.18 | PoeticIntensity | stderr, thanks... I'll see if I can decipher what that actually means.. :) |
| 21:10.10 | stderr | actually, try .*[\W\d]+.* |
| 21:10.18 | stderr | that should be gold. |
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| 21:10.41 | stderr | (match 0 or more of any characters, make sure there's one non-word or digit, match 0 or more of any characters) |
| 21:11.12 | stderr | use http://www.rubular.com/, too. best regex testing site I know of. |
| 21:11.16 | PoeticIntensity | thank you. |
| 21:11.39 | PoeticIntensity | I'll give that a shot, and read up on regex... I've tried to grasp it twice before, and failed miserably both times... |
| 21:11.43 | PoeticIntensity | maybe this time will be different. |
| 21:12.06 | PoeticIntensity | So.... just to be sure... I'd use it like this: |
| 21:12.27 | PoeticIntensity | } else if (object.value.match(.*[\W\d]+.*) { .... correct? |
| 21:12.41 | stderr | yea, may as well put a beginning and end anchor in there |
| 21:12.58 | PoeticIntensity | I'll give it a shot. |
| 21:13.01 | stderr | (object.value.match(^.*[\W\d]+.*$)) |
| 21:14.35 | PoeticIntensity | hrm.... complaining of a syntax error. |
| 21:15.03 | stderr | PCRE may not have the \W macro. |
| 21:15.36 | PoeticIntensity | which, I'm assuming, is a pretty important part of this particular regex.... |
| 21:15.56 | stderr | one sec, let me dive into the PHP docs (*cringe*) |
| 21:16.11 | PoeticIntensity | well... this isn't gonna be in PHP... It's in Javascript. |
| 21:16.24 | PoeticIntensity | stderr, ^^^ |
| 21:17.08 | stderr | oooooh |
| 21:17.17 | stderr | oops, missed that. one sec. |
| 21:17.33 | PoeticIntensity | Thanks for helpin' out, bro. |
| 21:17.39 | stderr | nah it has it |
| 21:17.43 | stderr | pastebin the relevant code |
| 21:17.46 | stderr | no problem man |
| 21:17.49 | PoeticIntensity | Regex is one thing in programming that makes my hair curl. |
| 21:17.53 | stderr | got a meeting in 10 though, so let's bang it out |
| 21:17.54 | PoeticIntensity | ok... I'll paste it. |
| 21:17.56 | PoeticIntensity | sure thing |
| 21:18.22 | PoeticIntensity | http://pastebin.com/m4a3e68c0 |
| 21:18.55 | stderr | ah, you're missing the surrounding /s |
| 21:18.57 | PoeticIntensity | It should be fairly simple.... and fairly common to do something like that... |
| 21:19.11 | Zelut | erg! I can't see what is wrong with that mysql_query() I posted earlier. |
| 21:19.27 | stderr | PoeticIntensity: http://pastebin.com/m4a3e68c0 |
| 21:19.30 | PoeticIntensity | thanks. |
| 21:19.35 | stderr | np |
| 21:20.07 | PoeticIntensity | I see no change at all... |
| 21:20.13 | PoeticIntensity | ...? |
| 21:20.29 | stderr | look at the regular expression itself |
| 21:20.34 | stderr | I've wrapped it in the character "/" |
| 21:20.52 | stderr | this denotes, in JavaScript (as well as Perl, Ruby, and several other languages), that it's a RE object. |
| 21:21.23 | PoeticIntensity | yeah...... I totally believe ya.. But the link you gave me contains identical code as the one I pasted... |
| 21:21.29 | stderr | oooh |
| 21:21.32 | stderr | huh |
| 21:21.43 | stderr | well here's the fixed line: else if(object.value.match(/^.*[\W\d]+.*$/)) |
| 21:21.56 | PoeticIntensity | yup... that's different. |
| 21:21.57 | PoeticIntensity | thanks! |
| 21:22.00 | stderr | np |
| 21:23.04 | PoeticIntensity | perfect... |
| 21:23.07 | PoeticIntensity | works perfectly. |
| 21:23.12 | PoeticIntensity | thank you, stderr |
| 21:23.15 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: yeep |
| 21:23.17 | PoeticIntensity | I'm gonna read up on that link you gave me. |
| 21:23.32 | PoeticIntensity | rubular.com |
| 21:23.53 | stderr | PoeticIntensity: no problem man. |
| 21:24.07 | stderr | also checkout jslint.com, I run my JS through it before I commit any change. |
| 21:24.21 | PoeticIntensity | will do, captain. :) |
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| 21:28.43 | beandog | fungus, DexterTheDragon either of you guys wanna do Geek Movie Night tonight |
| 21:29.24 | fungus | It's raid night for me. Can't tonight. |
| 21:29.49 | beandog | fungus, doh |
| 21:29.52 | beandog | fungus, what about tomorrow |
| 21:29.59 | fungus | Tomorrow would be cool |
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| 21:30.06 | beandog | alright, we might do that |
| 21:30.13 | beandog | gotta talk to supernovia still |
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| 21:53.24 | mindjuju | wow, that email was funny |
| 21:53.40 | mindjuju | i haven't personally heard anything about fiber.net, other than its in orem |
| 21:54.01 | PoeticIntensity | Nature's Way used it to host our production web server... |
| 21:54.14 | PoeticIntensity | for colo, they were solid. We didn't have any problems with them at all. |
| 21:55.20 | justincarmony | wow |
| 21:55.36 | mindjuju | wow on the email? |
| 21:55.41 | justincarmony | mindjuju: did you get that email? |
| 21:55.43 | justincarmony | lol, yeah |
| 21:55.52 | justincarmony | 1,001 gotomeeting acct |
| 21:56.00 | mindjuju | cool! |
| 21:56.04 | mindjuju | that beats ares |
| 21:56.10 | mindjuju | err, ours i mean |
| 21:56.22 | mindjuju | we just have 1000 seat meeting room |
| 21:56.23 | justincarmony | and get a handful of other UG leaders in on it, could be a pretty cool thing :) |
| 21:56.38 | mindjuju | yup |
| 21:56.51 | mindjuju | i'll have to email to see if we have permission to record |
| 21:56.57 | PoeticIntensity | so... what email are we talking about here? |
| 21:57.27 | mindjuju | the one were jordan is asking for a good colo in utah |
| 21:57.35 | mindjuju | and somebody suggested fiber.net |
| 21:57.37 | PoeticIntensity | ah |
| 21:57.38 | mindjuju | then I said xmission |
| 21:57.40 | PoeticIntensity | lemme take a look |
| 21:57.50 | mindjuju | and then somebody else said fiber = FTL |
| 21:58.41 | utahcon | FiberNet is a lose? |
| 21:58.44 | utahcon | :( |
| 21:59.00 | PoeticIntensity | hehe. |
| 21:59.15 | mindjuju | i've never done business withthem so i don't know |
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| 21:59.45 | PoeticIntensity | nah... they're good.... It seems we had .... hrmm..... |
| 21:59.47 | PoeticIntensity | maybe not... |
| 21:59.59 | PoeticIntensity | the more I think about it, the more I remember we had one pretty big problem with them. |
| 22:00.15 | mindjuju | yeah? |
| 22:00.20 | PoeticIntensity | someone was using our space, without our permission, and when we asked them to remedy the situation, I seem to remember them turning off the wrong server... |
| 22:00.34 | mindjuju | YIPES |
| 22:00.35 | PoeticIntensity | or..... no.... nonono.... |
| 22:00.39 | PoeticIntensity | they didn't turn any servers off.... |
| 22:00.46 | PoeticIntensity | ah yeah.. I remember now |
| 22:00.53 | brasto | what vps providers do some of you use? I'm looking at Linode, but TekTonic has one that offers more space for less. Any other suggestions? Any comments on TekTonic? On Linode? |
| 22:01.06 | brasto | http://www.tektonic.net/vps.php |
| 22:01.08 | utahcon | brasto: Linode++ |
| 22:01.11 | utahcon | love my Linode |
| 22:01.11 | influx | _ is not a meta character in PCRE, right? |
| 22:01.12 | PoeticIntensity | So... This dude was using 2U of our space... and we came in with another server to plug it in, and found that our space was being used by someone else! |
| 22:01.22 | brasto | http://www.linode.com/index.cfm |
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| 22:01.36 | brasto | utahcon: which distro do you use on your linode? |
| 22:01.43 | PoeticIntensity | So, we told the dude there, "Yo... Someone is in our space! Move it!" They took 3 hours to move the friggin' server out of our space.... |
| 22:01.44 | Zelut | brasto: linode ftw |
| 22:01.51 | PoeticIntensity | and we were there the whole time waiting to insert ours.... |
| 22:01.57 | wTrevyn | kai_office: < PRIDEFULL |
| 22:01.59 | brasto | ~ftw |
| 22:02.00 | ibot | For The Win! |
| 22:02.06 | utahcon | brasto: I have done both Ubuntu and CentOS on Linode. |
| 22:02.11 | PoeticIntensity | So, yeah.... I'd tend to agree with the email. |
| 22:02.16 | Zelut | I run Debian Stable on my linode, previously Ubuntu. |
| 22:02.36 | brasto | ah, and I always thought ftw was just wtf backwards until Zelut just said it and I thought that it didn't quite fit with that meaning... lol |
| 22:02.49 | fungus | I've been playing with stackable today, and it's is a whole lotta fun |
| 22:02.49 | mindjuju | sup 01wTrevyn |
| 22:02.56 | brasto | utahcon: 2 different servers, or one that you reboot and try the other? |
| 22:02.59 | Zelut | brasto: http://www.linode.com/?r=961fe3b79d54fd61fc4770c4c7a807ed50388aff (shameless plug, linode referral) |
| 22:03.01 | PoeticIntensity | I mean, eventually they got it all figured out, but COME ON! If my paying customer is waiting while a rogue server is removed from OUR space, .... if I were fiber.net, I'd verify the situation, and upon verification, I'd immediately unplug the rogue server and remove it. |
| 22:03.03 | wTrevyn | mindjuju: I was here to see kai_office defend his products... :) |
| 22:03.04 | PoeticIntensity | duh... |
| 22:03.18 | brasto | I'm getting off Verio. I have no more loyalty to them since I'm going to close down my business and stop reselling for them. |
| 22:03.21 | utahcon | brasto: Was running Ubuntu for a long time, then rebuilt it as CentOS |
| 22:03.48 | Zelut | my only issue with Linode is that I wish I could afford more! |
| 22:03.52 | beandog | PoeticIntensity, LOL, whut? |
| 22:03.54 | mindjuju | kai office? |
| 22:03.57 | beandog | That is awesome |
| 22:04.07 | brasto | the problem with reselling for Verio is that even at the lowest reseller rates, big companies are offering better deals. |
| 22:04.12 | wTrevyn | kai_office: works at Fiber.net |
| 22:04.28 | mindjuju | ah |
| 22:04.41 | wTrevyn | kai_office: built the new nethosting products, so I wanted to see thin explain his FTL comment |
| 22:05.19 | mindjuju | ~seen thinbegin |
| 22:05.25 | ibot | thinbegin <i=a646d069@gateway/web/freenode/x-bxvsdkiqjmxhbxzi> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 8d 2h 41m 34s ago, saying: 'can't remember who though'. |
| 22:05.37 | PoeticIntensity | so, yeah.... good times with fibernet. |
| 22:05.50 | brasto | fiber.net uses verio servers. |
| 22:06.05 | brasto | where's itimber |
| 22:06.07 | wTrevyn | PoeticIntensity: I only caught part of your rant, was this recent? |
| 22:06.07 | brasto | ? |
| 22:06.23 | brasto | ~seen itimber |
| 22:06.24 | ibot | itimber <~itimber@c-24-10-196-111.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 3d 2h 46m 31s ago, saying: 'morning guys'. |
| 22:06.29 | wTrevyn | brasto: I think they had some at one point < kai_office ? |
| 22:06.29 | kai_office | brasto: I was brought in to develop an in-house virtualization platform so we could move away from Verio. |
| 22:07.55 | brasto | that'll be a big hit on verio if they move everyone off, but that'd probably not be worth the cost to fiber.net, so I bet they're offering their new non-verio stuff to new customers and keeping old ones on Verio servers? |
| 22:08.08 | kai_office | brasto: correct |
| 22:08.09 | brasto | ^comment^ was for kai_office |
| 22:08.15 | brasto | interesting |
| 22:11.39 | PoeticIntensity | wTrevyn, yeah, sort of.. It was in 2008, beginning of 2009. |
| 22:12.19 | wTrevyn | PoeticIntensity: that may have been my rogue server |
| 22:12.29 | PoeticIntensity | quite possibly. |
| 22:12.33 | mindjuju | dag! |
| 22:12.39 | wTrevyn | I put my stuff in the wrong closet begore. |
| 22:12.43 | PoeticIntensity | pretty much infuriated my boss. |
| 22:12.45 | wTrevyn | before. |
| 22:12.58 | wTrevyn | lol, nice, did you ever find out whos it was? |
| 22:13.02 | PoeticIntensity | wTrevyn, was it a non-racked server... Like a desktop tower? |
| 22:13.12 | kai_office | PoeticIntensity: I'm curious what company you were/are working for? I am not very involved in the Collocation department. |
| 22:13.14 | wTrevyn | no, mine were all racked |
| 22:13.28 | PoeticIntensity | this one was just a desktop laid on its side. |
| 22:13.44 | wTrevyn | BTW< i think the Fiber.net colo thing is wierd |
| 22:13.47 | PoeticIntensity | kai_office, it was with Nature's Way. I no longer work for them..... (shedding tears) |
| 22:13.56 | wTrevyn | Havingthe sales people run it seems wrong. |
| 22:14.38 | PoeticIntensity | heh... while we were sitting there, waiting, making it obvious we were pissed, the people were like running around trying to figure out what to do.... |
| 22:14.41 | PoeticIntensity | it was kind of comical. |
| 22:15.43 | macnewbold | mindjuju: mysql presentation in UPHPU is in what month? |
| 22:15.43 | mindjuju | May |
| 22:15.43 | PoeticIntensity | besides that incident, their facilities seem very above par for what they're doing.. They have redundant everything... They run off multiple power grids coming in from the state. |
| 22:15.43 | mindjuju | unless march falls through |
| 22:15.43 | wTrevyn | PoeticIntensity: Yeah, I have no defence against that. My point was the nethosintg products were a good option verse teh amazon EC2 |
| 22:15.47 | wTrevyn | not COLO |
| 22:15.50 | wTrevyn | colo is colo |
| 22:16.02 | PoeticIntensity | oh... I didn't know we were battling. |
| 22:16.15 | PoeticIntensity | I'm just spittin' stories 'round a campfire. |
| 22:16.16 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 22:16.17 | wTrevyn | PoeticIntensity: the mailing list, somone said FTL |
| 22:16.22 | wTrevyn | pissed me off |
| 22:16.25 | wTrevyn | but Im over it. |
| 22:16.47 | PoeticIntensity | pretty quick to the highs 'n' lows, eh'? |
| 22:17.01 | wTrevyn | PoeticIntensity: you have no idea. |
| 22:17.19 | kai_office | PoeticIntensity: You have no idea. I'm sure I had bruises to show it at some point, but he's scare of me now :) |
| 22:17.20 | PoeticIntensity | I'm sorry, dude, that must be tough..... But ah well.. To each his own. |
| 22:17.28 | PoeticIntensity | ROFL |
| 22:17.31 | PoeticIntensity | beautiful. |
| 22:17.43 | kai_office | scared* |
| 22:18.01 | wTrevyn | Who the F is frigg |
| 22:18.04 | kai_office | We duke it out in Tekken these days, but the last time we played, he got a royal romping... |
| 22:18.09 | wTrevyn | and what is the CTCP stuff? |
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| 22:18.45 | PoeticIntensity | So.... I'm starting this recording studio business... (as some of you know).... |
| 22:18.58 | PoeticIntensity | I had no idea there were so many bands out there waiting for a really cheap way to get demos made! |
| 22:19.06 | PoeticIntensity | This is pretty freakin' awesome! |
| 22:19.15 | mindjuju | awesome PI! |
| 22:19.22 | PoeticIntensity | yeah, dude! |
| 22:19.33 | PoeticIntensity | It's time PI had some pie! |
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| 22:19.41 | supernovia | hi guys |
| 22:19.45 | PoeticIntensity | what up, girl? |
| 22:19.56 | supernovia | Oh you know, the usual stuff |
| 22:20.17 | PoeticIntensity | family, hubby, stress, etc....? |
| 22:20.25 | PoeticIntensity | school, work, life...? |
| 22:20.48 | supernovia | Well, I did get a new laptop :) |
| 22:21.04 | influx | So, /[^A-Za-z0-9\-_]/ means any character that isn't a letter, number, hyphen or underscore, right? |
| 22:21.08 | supernovia | I just got back from chatting w. the lawyer so hubby family stuff = not so great |
| 22:21.11 | supernovia | but school is going OK |
| 22:21.21 | influx | Sorry to cut into your convo, supes. |
| 22:21.28 | supernovia | it's all good. |
| 22:23.19 | kai_office | influx: ya, but only one character is checked, so as long as a single character isn't on that list, it will be true. |
| 22:25.33 | influx | So /[A-Za-z0-9\-_]{0,}/ should match 0 or more. |
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| 22:27.28 | kai_office | influx: do * instead of {0,} |
| 22:27.40 | kai_office | like: /[A-Za-z0-9\-_]*/ |
| 22:28.14 | kai_office | That doesn't have the ^ though. |
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| 22:30.17 | influx | Awesome. Thanks Kai. |
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| 22:50.29 | mindjuju | boy that stinks |
| 22:50.50 | mindjuju | the lady in the mail room says that USPS isn't going to honor the forever stamp after this year or something like that |
| 22:51.04 | mindjuju | and I see a blog of where another guy in san fran said the same thing |
| 22:51.15 | supernovia | What! |
| 22:51.23 | mindjuju | here is what she says |
| 22:51.24 | mindjuju | That statement is a year old. I was in the PO today and the tellers were telling people who were buying a lot of stamps. They said that if they don't go up this year then next year for sure they not be good. I was just telling people who might have a tot of them. |
| 22:52.37 | macnewbold | http://www.usps.com/communications/newsroom/forever_stamp_facts.htm |
| 22:52.37 | supernovia | Well, I'm glad I didn't stock up. But that's just ugly on their part. |
| 22:53.04 | mindjuju | macnewbold, that's exactly the website i sent to the mail room lady |
| 22:53.06 | macnewbold | mindjuju: according to their web site, they are good forever - no matter how prices may change in the future, and are always sold at the current first-class stamp price |
| 22:53.08 | mindjuju | point 2 |
| 22:53.12 | mindjuju | yup |
| 22:53.27 | mindjuju | her response is what I posted above |
| 22:53.49 | macnewbold | yeah, she misheard - they must have been buying first class stamps |
| 22:53.49 | mindjuju | when she says that posting, its in response to that faq |
| 22:54.02 | macnewbold | and they're never "no good", they're just not worth full postage anymore |
| 22:54.19 | macnewbold | the 41c stamp is always worth 41c in postage, no matter how long you wait to use it |
| 22:54.31 | macnewbold | but with inflation, that gets less and less valuable over time |
| 22:54.38 | macnewbold | but the forever stamp grows with inflation |
| 22:55.25 | Dezertol | so technically... buying forever stamps would be like an investment |
| 22:55.39 | beandog | assuming the USPS will be around next year |
| 22:55.43 | Dezertol | lol if you plunked down a couple mil for them |
| 22:55.45 | supernovia | hehe |
| 22:55.51 | Dezertol | right right |
| 22:56.40 | Dezertol | so.. what's your investments in.... "stamps".. like.. collectable ones?.. "no".. "just stamps" |
| 22:57.19 | Dezertol | that's what I find funny about the "buy gold" people |
| 22:57.33 | Dezertol | is that gold is only worth what other people are willing to pay for it |
| 22:57.45 | mindjuju | here is that blog post on forever stamp not forever, i don't know anything about USPS as i haven't used them in YEARS, or rather, gone down to the office |
| 22:57.46 | mindjuju | http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/02/01/forever-stamp-not-forever-at-san-francisco-post-office/ |
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| 22:59.55 | Dezertol | that's not a forever stamp... |
| 23:00.02 | Dezertol | the forever stamps are the lib bell |
| 23:00.03 | beandog | #fail |
| 23:00.14 | beandog | hard to tell though |
| 23:00.19 | beandog | I mean, theres no price on the stamp |
| 23:00.43 | Dezertol | there is no price on my hamburger either |
| 23:00.48 | mindjuju | ah |
| 23:00.51 | mindjuju | he's wrong then |
| 23:00.59 | mindjuju | the only stamp i bought was marilyn monroe stamp |
| 23:01.02 | mindjuju | RARRR! |
| 23:01.11 | beandog | so thats where she went |
| 23:01.16 | supernovia | hehe |
| 23:02.14 | beandog | Optimus Primus stamps? |
| 23:02.26 | Dezertol | that would be cool to |
| 23:02.29 | mindjuju | i love Primus's Puddin' Taine |
| 23:02.59 | ninnypants | I prefer frizzle fry |
| 23:02.59 | Dezertol | ya... |
| 23:03.05 | Dezertol | I like most of them |
| 23:03.27 | Dezertol | I have all but one of there cd's |
| 23:03.29 | ninnypants | yeah their entire diskography is good |
| 23:03.36 | Dezertol | and the one I don't have is just a re-play of existing songs |
| 23:03.38 | ninnypants | which don't you have |
| 23:03.52 | mindjuju | ninnypants - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fXKNwo5ik8 |
| 23:04.22 | Dezertol | I forget.. it was the one that only has like 5 songs on it and there on the other cd's |
| 23:04.40 | Dezertol | did you see the video for devil went down to Georgia |
| 23:04.51 | mindjuju | saw it on youtube the other day |
| 23:04.57 | mindjuju | claymation stuff, way cool |
| 23:05.01 | Dezertol | ya |
| 23:05.10 | ninnypants | misc debries? |
| 23:05.18 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uk9IcoQ0w |
| 23:05.22 | Dezertol | perhaps.. let me look |
| 23:05.32 | ninnypants | yeah it's awsome it came with pork soda I believe |
| 23:05.44 | Dezertol | no I got that one too |
| 23:06.22 | ninnypants | oh suck on this |
| 23:06.41 | Dezertol | I got Animals SHould not try to act like people, antipop brown alubm frizzle fry misc debris Pork soda rhinoplasty salling the seas suck on this life and tails from the punch bowl |
| 23:06.56 | Dezertol | live.. not life |
| 23:07.21 | beandog | FB changed their interface .. again! |
| 23:07.49 | ninnypants | that's all of them that I know of |
| 23:07.52 | Dezertol | I also have the purple onion from The les claypool frog brigade |
| 23:09.02 | ninnypants | yeah that one is good so is highball with the devil by LC and the Holy Mackerel |
| 23:09.59 | ninnypants | and the "Of Whales and Woe" album that came out under just les as the artist is good |
| 23:10.19 | Dezertol | there is a album called "They can't all be Zingers" |
| 23:10.22 | Dezertol | that I don t'have from Primus |
| 23:11.03 | ninnypants | hmm I've never even heard of that one |
| 23:11.31 | Dezertol | ya it's basically... the "greatest hits" cd |
| 23:11.43 | Dezertol | so I haven't bought it |
| 23:12.07 | beandog | LOL, whut? |
| 23:12.09 | beandog | http://techdirt.com/articles/20100204/0136568042.shtml |
| 23:12.10 | beandog | you win |
| 23:13.02 | Dezertol | that's awsome |
| 23:13.17 | Dezertol | I would vote for them just to prove a point |
| 23:14.35 | beandog | I wonder if that was a real Fox News quote |
| 23:14.43 | beandog | I mean, it wouldnt surprise me .. *much* but still |
| 23:15.54 | beandog | anyway |
| 23:16.01 | Dezertol | http://www.hulu.com/the-corporation |
| 23:16.05 | supernovia | designated human |
| 23:16.09 | Dezertol | that's an awsome vid on how they got where they are |
| 23:16.18 | Dezertol | you should watch it if you get time |
| 23:16.30 | beandog | supernovia: good movie |
| 23:16.45 | Dezertol | it's interesting.. they slipped it under the sheets when they declared "all man are equal" |
| 23:17.00 | supernovia | Movie beandog? |
| 23:17.02 | Dezertol | and in the first year 19 cases when to court.. and only one was a black man |
| 23:17.04 | Dezertol | lol |
| 23:17.07 | beandog | er, Dezertol |
| 23:17.49 | supernovia | lol, OK I was thinking maybe "designated human" was a movie and ran off to check imdb |
| 23:17.52 | Dezertol | I was suprised to find out that stuff about IBM |
| 23:17.56 | Dezertol | and the holocost |
| 23:18.29 | ninnypants | yeah it's prety crazy that they're still in business |
| 23:18.53 | Dezertol | no one knew and they denied it |
| 23:19.16 | Dezertol | despite the pictures and the doc's |
| 23:19.42 | Dezertol | I got to see this this kind of big corp stuff first hand |
| 23:19.57 | Dezertol | I worked for a "non-profit" research lab in AZ |
| 23:20.11 | Dezertol | and they would sell all there research to ely lilly in singapore |
| 23:20.22 | ninnypants | from what I remember from the article I read the government knew |
| 23:20.27 | Dezertol | and a second "for profit" company owned by the same few guys |
| 23:20.31 | Dezertol | would buy it from them |
| 23:20.37 | Dezertol | make the drugs and collect the money |
| 23:20.47 | Dezertol | basically.. laundring the info like it was cash |
| 23:21.06 | Dezertol | they get all these big companies to donate money to there cause |
| 23:21.28 | Dezertol | and the key players get paid on the back end when it comes back around all shinny |
| 23:34.43 | supernovia | man, I bought harper's homemade WHITE bread because the bran bread was all sold out |
| 23:35.08 | supernovia | and it's so ridiculously good... that it's bad |
| 23:35.36 | justincarmony | ugggg |
| 23:35.38 | justincarmony | I am so stupid! |
| 23:35.57 | supernovia | what's up justincarmony? |
| 23:36.15 | justincarmony | I had a typo on my shipping address... |
| 23:36.18 | justincarmony | for my new MBP |
| 23:36.39 | justincarmony | so it didn't come today :( |
| 23:36.46 | justincarmony | and my trackpad on my current one is struggling |
| 23:36.54 | mgeary | ohhh, that's pain |
| 23:38.06 | supernovia | oh nooo |
| 23:38.37 | supernovia | who's shipping it? Maybe they can help? |
| 23:46.39 | justincarmony | just called FedEx |
| 23:46.45 | beandog | supernovia: bran bread? |
| 23:46.46 | justincarmony | they are going to call me when the truck arrives |
| 23:46.48 | supernovia | any luck? |
| 23:47.17 | justincarmony | so hopefully I can go pick it up |
| 23:47.27 | justincarmony | its only 5-7 mins from my house |
| 23:47.34 | supernovia | yeah beandog - I've been on some kind of eternal diet so this white bread feels very naughty |
| 23:47.50 | macnewbold | white bread is awesome |
| 23:47.54 | macnewbold | but so is wheat... |
| 23:47.59 | macnewbold | and rye |
| 23:48.03 | macnewbold | and sourdough |
| 23:48.13 | supernovia | this white bread is crazy awesome but it's reminiscent of subtraction soup! |
| 23:48.21 | mindjuju | rye is good, but best in a rueben |
| 23:48.30 | supernovia | I just love bread in general really |
| 23:49.54 | beandog | white bread is evil |
| 23:51.06 | mindjuju | supernovia cd = ready |
| 23:51.12 | supernovia | w00t |
| 23:52.12 | supernovia | I'm going to go up and get it while this baby's charging |
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