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| 00:11.40 | NoticZ | ding dong! |
| 00:12.19 | mgeary | NoticZ: the doorbell is broken. please knock |
| 00:12.56 | NoticZ | ohh yeah forgot about that! |
| 00:13.00 | NoticZ | knock knock |
| 00:13.21 | NoticZ | havent been in here in a while! |
| 00:13.26 | NoticZ | a long while |
| 00:19.17 | SunSparc | The knocker is broken also. |
| 00:19.21 | SunSparc | ~fix knocker |
| 00:19.22 | ibot | ACTION opens the hood of knocker , looks inside and says "that'll be 500 dollars." |
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| 00:33.47 | NoticZ | dirka dirka |
| 00:34.13 | supernovia | ~lart NoticZ |
| 00:34.13 | ibot | cuts off NoticZ's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 00:34.36 | supernovia | No offense :) |
| 00:35.44 | NoticZ | hows it going super? |
| 00:36.27 | supernovia | It's going, how are you? I am trying to remember whether we've met. |
| 00:37.02 | NoticZ | prob not, I have only been to one meeting but I am having nerd talk withdrawls so I will be at the next one for sure. |
| 00:37.07 | NoticZ | got a website? |
| 00:38.03 | supernovia | Yup I do.. its not terribly nerdy though. More mommy-ish. |
| 00:38.32 | supernovia | mah blog :) how about you? |
| 00:38.35 | NoticZ | nothing wrong with that |
| 00:38.44 | NoticZ | http://www.durangedesign.com |
| 00:40.15 | supernovia | You should pop a date function in your footer so it'll keep the copyright year current |
| 00:40.47 | supernovia | mine's here: http://novapages.com/ideablog/ and apparently I forgot to put © info in there after I switched to WordPress |
| 00:42.43 | NoticZ | thats a good idea :) I am actually redoing some of my websites durangedesign is getting a slight change but that's one good snippet to toss in. |
| 00:43.09 | supernovia | I'd better throw it back in mine as well :) |
| 00:43.53 | NoticZ | ahh yeah I was checking your site out earlier today, as you can tell I'm bored. I worked all weekend so I figured today would be a semi lazy day |
| 00:44.38 | NoticZ | I was reading the post about Methods for Mockups: A Geeks Guide to Design |
| 00:45.02 | supernovia | Oh .. I didn't realize I'd published that yet :-/ was it only half done? |
| 00:45.08 | supernovia | I kept meaning to come back and fix it. |
| 00:45.28 | NoticZ | well there is a small desc. on uphpu like 5th one down |
| 00:45.31 | NoticZ | http://uphpu.org/ |
| 00:45.41 | supernovia | Oh okay. Yeah I had half a post written up for my site |
| 00:46.17 | NoticZ | so do you do coding full time or is it a part time thing? |
| 00:47.03 | supernovia | full time student / mom & contract design work, currently (with design being broadly defined to include whatever coding is needed) |
| 00:48.44 | supernovia | speaking of coding, I need to figure out if autocad will let me use a script with carriage returns. |
| 00:48.51 | supernovia | better get to work ;) |
| 00:49.03 | mindjuju | slacker |
| 00:49.07 | mindjuju | :) |
| 00:49.17 | NoticZ | sweet |
| 00:49.22 | supernovia | totally, btw mindjuju I am still thinking. Today was stinky. Missed the bus twice! |
| 00:49.29 | NoticZ | have fun |
| 00:49.35 | mindjuju | Yipes! |
| 00:49.46 | supernovia | good times huh? |
| 00:50.00 | NoticZ | whats mindjuju up to these days? Don't worry you have only met me once! |
| 01:14.59 | undertakingyou | supernovia: ping |
| 01:16.02 | supernovia | hey undertakingyou :) |
| 01:16.36 | undertakingyou | hey, how are you? |
| 01:16.45 | undertakingyou | Have a design question for you. |
| 01:16.58 | supernovia | things are good! what's up? |
| 01:17.55 | wps | looks like my computer might be alright |
| 01:18.13 | wps | (was worried that my liquid-cooled processors might be leaking) |
| 01:18.29 | wps | I cleaned out the case and now the sound is gone and the entire thing is running much, much quieter |
| 01:18.33 | wps | fancy that |
| 01:18.35 | undertakingyou | that is what scares me about liquid cooling |
| 01:18.49 | wps | it was really dusty in there |
| 01:18.57 | wps | I need to go buy some compressed air |
| 01:19.05 | wps | I need to remember to clean it out annually |
| 01:19.17 | wps | apple has had to replaced a lot of units due to them leaking |
| 01:19.25 | wps | they ditched that idea pretty quick |
| 01:29.06 | NoticZ | wow sony vegas video 9.0 seems pretty spiffy! |
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| 03:17.44 | Zelut | can I pass a url directly to simplexml_load_file(); |
| 03:20.34 | DexterTheDragon | yes |
| 03:22.12 | Zelut | nice. saves an extra step of getting it and storing it fist. |
| 03:25.38 | influx_ | What's the best way to verify a file's type? |
| 03:26.36 | herlo | influx_: file |
| 03:26.45 | herlo | influx_: liek this |
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| 03:26.49 | herlo | file <myfile.txt> |
| 03:27.03 | herlo | $ file manage.py |
| 03:27.04 | herlo | manage.py: a python script text executable |
| 03:33.26 | influx_ | Sorry. Within PHP. |
| 03:33.40 | herlo | oh |
| 03:33.54 | herlo | exec('file filename') :) |
| 03:34.00 | herlo | oops |
| 03:34.04 | influx | Heh. |
| 03:34.04 | herlo | exec('file filename'); |
| 03:34.17 | herlo | influx: it really depends on the os, so... |
| 03:34.31 | influx | :) |
| 03:34.44 | herlo | which os are you supposing it's asking? |
| 03:35.35 | influx | Actually, what I'm trying to do is move the file to a directory and create a db record of it if the file type is on a list of approved types. |
| 03:35.55 | herlo | hrm |
| 03:36.04 | herlo | probably ought to do it based upon extension then |
| 03:36.33 | influx | $_FILES['filename']['type'] isn't too helpful then? |
| 03:36.57 | influx | I was going to use that and also check for the extension. |
| 03:37.37 | influx | It just seemd that when I was testing the script, some jpgs (the only type I was testing for at the time) would not upload. |
| 03:37.58 | influx | The progress bar at the top of my browser (Using Safari) would stall. |
| 03:38.36 | herlo | influx: unknown |
| 03:41.59 | influx | Hmm. I think it might just be an issue with Safaril. |
| 03:42.01 | influx | Safari* |
| 03:42.26 | influx | A file not uploading in Safari will load in Firefox. |
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| 03:43.43 | influx | anywho. bedtime. Later. |
| 03:43.48 | influx | Thanks! |
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| 04:25.54 | justincarmony | man... apple needs to make their annoucements |
| 04:26.00 | justincarmony | so I can just finally make a decision |
| 04:28.53 | DexterTheDragon | justincarmony: http://bit.ly/5mmnlQ |
| 04:29.12 | justincarmony | LOL |
| 04:29.15 | wps | ha ha ha |
| 04:29.50 | herlo | nice! |
| 04:32.14 | justincarmony | I thought maybe I should get a desktop |
| 04:37.06 | herlo | why? |
| 04:37.28 | justincarmony | I dunno |
| 04:37.38 | justincarmony | better performance |
| 04:37.51 | justincarmony | here is always my "loop" |
| 04:37.54 | wps | what will you be using the computer for? |
| 04:38.06 | justincarmony | development |
| 04:38.17 | wps | ie: writing code? |
| 04:38.17 | justincarmony | here is my train of thought... |
| 04:38.19 | justincarmony | yup |
| 04:38.21 | justincarmony | and designing |
| 04:38.24 | wps | then you don't need performance |
| 04:38.53 | wps | I have a dual proc G5 tower with 4.5 GB or ram and it's a waste |
| 04:39.07 | wps | it makes me feel good but I never come close to utilizing the processors or half the ram |
| 04:40.00 | wps | today's laptops are rockingâ¦Â unless your crunching some heavy stuff like video editing/rendering, I laptop is plenty of power |
| 04:40.15 | justincarmony | yeah |
| 04:40.52 | wps | personally, I still prefer a desktop however |
| 04:40.55 | herlo | wps: even then, video rendering can be done pretty well on newer laptops |
| 04:41.15 | herlo | only slightly slower overally |
| 04:41.19 | wps | mostly because I hardly ever use a computer other than at my desk |
| 04:41.36 | wps | and I don't like the ergonomics of a laptop on a desk |
| 04:41.47 | justincarmony | when I work at a desk |
| 04:41.56 | wps | sure, you can plugin a keyboard, mouse, and display, but⦠|
| 04:42.01 | justincarmony | I always dock-in |
| 04:42.05 | wps | I want dual external displays and you can't do that with a laptop |
| 04:42.12 | justincarmony | ah |
| 04:42.12 | justincarmony | yeah |
| 04:42.18 | justincarmony | 3 is my pref |
| 04:42.24 | justincarmony | 3 screens total |
| 04:42.31 | wps | here's my position⦠|
| 04:42.48 | wps | if there was only going to be one computer in my houseâ¦Â or one computer that I had access toâ¦Â I'd buy a laptop |
| 04:43.30 | wps | if I had access to a laptop for those rare moments when I need to give a presentation somewhere or need to work away from my desk, or want to site on the couch or bed (rare), then I'd buy a tower |
| 04:44.02 | wps | for most people, a laptop is a better option |
| 04:45.39 | wps | you need to get your employer to buy you a laptop so that you can get the towerâ¦Â they you have both! |
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| 05:05.14 | justincarmony | wps: http://www.amazon.com/Diamond-BVU195-Display-Adapter-included/product-reviews/B002GHBW4S/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1 |
| 05:05.24 | justincarmony | I've heard these work decently |
| 05:05.44 | justincarmony | lol, and wps, I am my own employer, so no dice there :P |
| 05:05.50 | wps | ah |
| 05:06.30 | wps | interesting |
| 05:06.34 | wps | haven't heard much about USB ones |
| 05:06.45 | justincarmony | they have a very slight delay |
| 05:06.45 | wps | my coworker tried the headsup2go and it was crap |
| 05:06.50 | justincarmony | so good for reading email |
| 05:06.53 | justincarmony | or reference material |
| 05:07.01 | justincarmony | but not so good for your main display |
| 05:07.17 | wps | gets you two displays but it runs it as one (twice the pixels wide) |
| 05:07.59 | wps | waitâ¦Â I think it's dualhead2go |
| 05:09.05 | wps | http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/products/gxm/dh2go/ |
| 05:09.15 | wps | was blurry often |
| 05:10.39 | justincarmony | yeah |
| 05:10.50 | justincarmony | http://daggle.com/macbook-pro-multimonitor-4-monitors-at-once-1577 |
| 05:10.57 | justincarmony | sounds like this guy tried that as well |
| 05:11.01 | justincarmony | didn't like it |
| 05:11.07 | justincarmony | prefered the Diamond ones |
| 05:11.44 | wps | I have a 15" macbook pro with a 30" external display at work, but I don't like it |
| 05:11.53 | wps | I much prefer width over height |
| 05:12.05 | wps | I'd cut a few inches off the top of the 30" and move it to the sides if I could |
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| 16:30.54 | justincarmony | Arrrrggg! |
| 16:30.58 | justincarmony | Darn Apple :P |
| 16:31.06 | mgeary | ..? |
| 16:31.17 | justincarmony | Our push notifications aren't working |
| 16:31.22 | mgeary | bummer |
| 16:31.32 | justincarmony | one of the scenarios that Apple doesn't let you test until after you've pushed |
| 16:31.44 | justincarmony | pushed as in they've approved and your app is in the store |
| 16:31.45 | jsmith | (no pun intended?) |
| 16:31.59 | justincarmony | lol |
| 16:32.39 | jsmith | So, the real question is... will you be saying "Darn Apple" in ~27 hours? |
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| 16:37.43 | justincarmony | jsmith: eh... probably :P |
| 16:37.57 | justincarmony | I have a severe love/hate relationship with Apple :P |
| 16:38.54 | justincarmony | I love some of the things they do, I think they make a lot of excellent decisions, however I think some of their other decisions are boneheaded and arrogant :P |
| 16:39.43 | jsmith | Fair enough |
| 16:48.03 | justincarmony | hahaha |
| 16:48.24 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 17:07.06 | unum | so tomorrow I'll be teaching my website class |
| 17:07.14 | unum | I should probably go read up on the description.... |
| 17:10.58 | Zelut | unum: where are you teaching? |
| 17:14.25 | unum | Zelut: salt lake city library |
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| 17:31.03 | mindjuju | i just fixed an eMachine belonging to a friend of mine where the restore CD and everything was located as an inaccessible partition on the hard drive, along comes a spider... http://www.darkreading.com/securityservices/security/client/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=222400523&cid=nl_DR_DAILY_2010-01-26_h |
| 17:35.09 | stderr | we're looking for devs, so if you know any Ruby rockstars: http://groups.google.com/group/urug/browse_frm/thread/0f99b09ca018c744# |
| 17:36.59 | mindjuju | seems like there are two or three that i know of, prolly more |
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| 18:39.33 | Dezertol | do any of you still have that link to the instructions to install linux in like 3 steps |
| 18:39.53 | mindjuju | 1. Get ubuntu iso |
| 18:39.58 | mindjuju | 2. Burn ISO |
| 18:40.05 | Dezertol | no |
| 18:40.07 | DexterTheDragon | http://www.bash.org/?464385 |
| 18:40.07 | mindjuju | 3. put iso in new server and power up |
| 18:40.31 | Dezertol | DexterTheDragon ya.. that was it thanks |
| 18:40.45 | mindjuju | jk Dezertol |
| 18:41.08 | Dezertol | lol |
| 18:41.14 | Dezertol | not a big ubuntu fan |
| 18:43.33 | Dezertol | I started out with Redhat 4.0 |
| 18:43.41 | Dezertol | used caldera for a bit |
| 18:44.07 | Dezertol | I've used slackware almost exclusivly now for 8 years |
| 18:44.41 | Dezertol | and OpenBSD for my firewall/mail servers |
| 18:45.06 | Dezertol | slack + dropline (droplinegnome.org) |
| 18:45.21 | mindjuju | seems like i heard slackware was one of the first linux distros, is true? |
| 18:45.28 | Dezertol | I used ubuntu for a while as a samba server |
| 18:45.35 | Dezertol | ya it is |
| 18:45.48 | mindjuju | cool |
| 18:45.54 | Dezertol | it's also pride full on the "stay to the true linux" |
| 18:46.06 | Dezertol | i.e. they don't have package managers that are only for there distro |
| 18:46.22 | Dezertol | example would be "rpm" |
| 18:47.42 | Dezertol | if you where to build a "LFS" system (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org) |
| 18:47.52 | Dezertol | you'd end up with a slackware box |
| 18:47.58 | Dezertol | or.. very close to a slackware box |
| 18:48.38 | Dezertol | I like it better cuz it's closer to they way Sun Solaris and BSD do things |
| 18:49.32 | Dezertol | FreeBSD is still my favorite for Kernel rebuilds |
| 18:49.51 | SunSparc | Gentoo is tasty. |
| 18:50.10 | macnewbold | i like freebsd lots - kernels are esay |
| 18:50.11 | macnewbold | easy |
| 18:50.13 | SunSparc | But I have become converted to Ubuntu. Don't like RedHat anymore. |
| 18:50.19 | Dezertol | I like Gentoo also because it's mostly all source builds |
| 18:50.31 | macnewbold | i've been using some Ubuntu for work stuff lately, and have been very happy with it as well. |
| 18:50.35 | optikal | Gentoo is tasty but it's a meal that takes a long time to cook and enjoy. |
| 18:51.06 | SunSparc | optikal: Yes, it is for connoisseurs |
| 18:51.22 | optikal | and people with more patience than I. |
| 18:51.24 | macnewbold | for me though, FreeBSD vs Ubuntu is mostly about source packages vs binary packages, and lots of choices/options vs a very sane set of defaults with improved user friendliness |
| 18:51.54 | Dezertol | well I would never run FreeBSD as a desktop |
| 18:51.59 | Dezertol | it's a server OS in my book |
| 18:52.08 | Dezertol | and as such I don't use any X servers on my servers |
| 18:52.27 | macnewbold | i like source builds when i need to tweak something, but most of the time i don't need to - i just don't want to into the dependency craziness that sometimes happens in using binary stuff |
| 18:52.40 | macnewbold | i'm on a freebsd desktop right now |
| 18:53.00 | macnewbold | but it isn't something I'd recommend to the average linux user |
| 18:53.11 | Dezertol | ya |
| 18:53.18 | Dezertol | I ran FreeBSD for my desktop for a couple years |
| 18:53.24 | macnewbold | one advantage for me is that i'm well practiced at managing my servers, cause i manage my desktop the same way |
| 18:53.54 | macnewbold | i recently put ubuntu 9.10 on an old laptop i was given, adn took it home for the family to play around with |
| 18:53.56 | macnewbold | so far so good |
| 18:54.03 | Dezertol | nice |
| 18:54.06 | macnewbold | my 8 year old can pick it up and use it pretty easily |
| 18:54.21 | macnewbold | at least from what I'ev seen so far |
| 18:54.46 | macnewbold | i'd love to sit quietly and watch him and my wife try to get simple stuff done with it (browsing, file editing, games, etc.) |
| 18:54.53 | mindjuju | ubuntu 9.10 + edubuntu package + openDNS FTW |
| 18:54.54 | macnewbold | and see what issues they run into |
| 18:54.54 | Dezertol | lol |
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| 18:55.18 | Dezertol | if you ever get board and want to learn a lot run threw the linux from scratch project |
| 18:55.21 | Dezertol | it's fun |
| 18:55.25 | Dezertol | takes a couple days tho |
| 18:56.08 | Dezertol | granted I was working full time and had school |
| 18:56.17 | Dezertol | took me about 3 days to get it all done and happy |
| 18:56.52 | mgeary | and now, for musician pairings that you'd never have expected |
| 18:57.19 | mindjuju | no way |
| 18:57.26 | mindjuju | enya does don't fear the reaper? |
| 18:57.50 | mindjuju | my brain can't even handle that without having a buffer overflow |
| 18:58.12 | mgeary | it's actually a hoax |
| 18:58.14 | Dezertol | I got a call from my old boss yesterday |
| 18:58.42 | Dezertol | wanted me to talk to the konsultent company they hired to do my job |
| 18:59.06 | Dezertol | spent about 2 hours on the phone trying to explain how borked there systems where |
| 19:00.27 | jsmith | Sounds vaguely Russian to me |
| 19:00.41 | macnewbold | Dezertol: aren't those the greatest? after they switch, and find out the grass is all brown on the other side of the fence? |
| 19:00.48 | Dezertol | http://www.despair.com/consulting.html |
| 19:00.51 | Zelut | Dezertol: have you tried Arch Linux? It is similar-ish to Slack, just seems to be more updated. |
| 19:01.22 | Dezertol | Zelut not yet but slack seems to be keeping up there on v13 right now |
| 19:01.49 | macnewbold | we've got clients that we do a bunch of planning with on a complicated project, then they'll go with some really cheap guy to try to build it... we say to ourselves "see you in 6-12 months", and often we do. or at least we'll find out it didn't work out well, even if they don't come have us fix/rebuild it right. |
| 19:01.54 | Dezertol | macnewbold that's the second time that's happened to me |
| 19:02.23 | Zelut | if you ever get the urge, arch uses BSD style init. also uses .tar.gz for packages, with a slick package manager - pacman. |
| 19:02.28 | Dezertol | the last time they posted my job opening for 80K.. I left cuz they "couldn't" pay me more |
| 19:02.35 | Dezertol | was making 40k when I quit |
| 19:03.11 | Dezertol | ya slack uses the tgz style also.. |
| 19:03.21 | Dezertol | and it also uses the init system like bsd |
| 19:03.51 | Zelut | that's why I mention it. it's probably the closest to Slackware out there |
| 19:04.35 | Dezertol | ya it's funny because they laid me off so they could hit there 2009 numbers |
| 19:04.42 | Dezertol | dec 11th |
| 19:04.50 | Dezertol | and now that there into Jan with a new budget |
| 19:05.07 | Dezertol | they're forking out stupid money for a contractor |
| 19:05.26 | Zelut | where was it that you worked? |
| 19:05.33 | Dezertol | cymphonix |
| 19:05.42 | Dezertol | http://www.cymphonix.com |
| 19:06.03 | Dezertol | it's a "big brother" network appliance |
| 19:06.19 | Dezertol | bandwidth filtering and throtteling |
| 19:06.43 | macnewbold | i was pleasantly surprised to see ubuntu using an init.d system that reminded me of BSD |
| 19:06.58 | macnewbold | i heard it is new though, which i thought was odd. BSD's done it that way forever. |
| 19:07.04 | mindjuju | free einstein bagel |
| 19:07.06 | mindjuju | http://bagels.static.contextoptional.com/einstein_coupon2.html |
| 19:07.37 | Zelut | macnewbold: ubuntu now uses 'upstart' which is an event-driven init system |
| 19:07.46 | Zelut | macnewbold: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ |
| 19:08.04 | macnewbold | hm, i didn't see that in 9.10 yet |
| 19:08.17 | macnewbold | but /etc/init.d/ has all the handy scripts for doing start/stop/restart etc. |
| 19:08.31 | Zelut | macnewbold: upstart has been in since.. 6.10. |
| 19:10.21 | macnewbold | interesting |
| 19:10.30 | macnewbold | well i guess I've been going behind its back from time to time |
| 19:10.44 | mindjuju | DtD - http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2010/01/ten-updated-colloquialisms/ |
| 19:16.06 | Dezertol | When knights fought each other during the Middle Ages, they would dedicate their performance to a woman of the court--usually someone they were in love with. To let their feelings be known to all, the knights pinned a handkerchief or a scarf belonging to the woman (a favor) onto their sleeves. |
| 19:17.18 | Dezertol | cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey comes from old ships where they used a brass tray to hold the cannon balls |
| 19:17.32 | Dezertol | if it got to cold out side the brass plat would shrink and the balls would fall off |
| 19:17.47 | Dezertol | the brass plate was called a brass monkey |
| 19:18.14 | justincarmony | lol |
| 19:18.23 | justincarmony | you know way too much stuff Dezertol ;) |
| 19:18.44 | Dezertol | it's just the crap you pickup along the road of life |
| 19:19.05 | Dezertol | saved by the bell is the most desturbing one |
| 19:19.20 | Dezertol | they had flood in england a long time a go |
| 19:19.28 | Dezertol | and had to move many of the bodies to new coffins |
| 19:19.46 | Dezertol | they found scratching marks on the inside of the lids |
| 19:20.08 | Dezertol | and from then on they would tie a string to there dead guys toe and someone working the "grave yard shift" |
| 19:20.23 | Dezertol | would sit and wait for bell to ring |
| 19:20.30 | Dezertol | and if it did they would hurry and dig them up |
| 19:20.35 | Dezertol | hence... saved by the bell |
| 19:20.41 | justincarmony | wow |
| 19:20.42 | Dezertol | and the grave yard shift |
| 19:21.07 | mgeary | i can't believe you'd hear a bell ringing inside a closed box under 4-6 feet of dirt |
| 19:21.28 | Dezertol | no the tie a string and run it up to the ground level |
| 19:21.32 | Dezertol | and tie the end to a bell |
| 19:21.36 | Dezertol | that hangs off the ground |
| 19:21.37 | mgeary | aha |
| 19:22.17 | mgeary | "JEEZE! I was *hybernating*! Don't you guys take a pulse??!" |
| 19:22.27 | Dezertol | lol |
| 19:22.45 | Dezertol | why did I have a flash of that monty python cart for the dead |
| 19:22.50 | Dezertol | bring out your dead |
| 19:23.10 | Dezertol | and that guy arguing that he wasn't ded yet |
| 19:23.13 | Dezertol | dead |
| 19:27.09 | Dezertol | http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/brass.asp |
| 19:27.17 | Dezertol | I guess the brass monkey story is false |
| 19:27.18 | Dezertol | lol |
| 19:27.24 | Dezertol | sounded cool tho |
| 19:27.29 | mgeary | psh. it's all about the story |
| 19:27.47 | mgeary | hey, anyone know offhand how a php script can determine if it's being run via CLI rather than apache? |
| 19:28.19 | stderr | php_sapi_name() ? |
| 19:28.33 | stderr | (should == "cli") |
| 19:28.47 | mgeary | nice |
| 19:28.48 | mgeary | thanks |
| 19:29.00 | mindjuju | ~stderr++ |
| 19:30.49 | stderr | np |
| 19:43.28 | Dezertol | so the office I work out of is in a building with a whole bunch of other offices all by other companies |
| 19:43.38 | Dezertol | I get at least 1 person a day sometimes more |
| 19:43.50 | Dezertol | asking me for info about the other people |
| 19:44.08 | Dezertol | like some guy just asked me if they company down the hall was open today or if they where just on lunch |
| 19:44.32 | Dezertol | what makes them think that I have any idea who there even talking about let alone if they went to lunch or not |
| 19:48.55 | mindjuju | are you the sys admin of a building? |
| 19:49.43 | Dezertol | nope |
| 19:49.53 | Dezertol | just one of the other renters |
| 19:49.58 | mindjuju | ah |
| 19:49.59 | mindjuju | weird |
| 19:50.22 | Dezertol | ya I think so but it happens all the time |
| 19:50.57 | mindjuju | course where there is a need, there is a buck to be made, Dezertol PI ! |
| 19:51.21 | mindjuju | just setup some cams in your office pointed at the other offices in question and let them tap the web cams for $10 / month |
| 19:51.41 | Dezertol | lol |
| 19:51.50 | Dezertol | no doubt |
| 19:52.13 | Dezertol | I get wrapped up in idea's all the time that take to much time |
| 19:52.24 | Dezertol | like I went to the dump the other day to get rid of a chair |
| 19:52.47 | Dezertol | and just before I got there.. some meat company dumped a truck load of cow hides |
| 19:52.51 | Dezertol | just at the dump |
| 19:53.12 | Dezertol | and my first thought was.. if there throwing them away I could start a business tanning leather |
| 19:57.35 | justincarmony | has anyone here ever used Silverback on the Mac for usability testing? |
| 20:04.39 | DexterTheDragon | mmmmm whopper king |
| 20:05.46 | mindjuju | that sounds really good right now |
| 20:06.04 | DexterTheDragon | oh it is |
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| 20:31.42 | DexterTheDragon | http://clientsfromhell.tumblr.com/post/354771597/how-much-do-you-charge-for-a-website |
| 20:33.44 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:43.25 | justincarmony | macnewbold: someone in your staff has a macbook, right? |
| 20:43.48 | macnewbold | yeah, there are two macbooks and an ibook right now |
| 20:43.59 | macnewbold | don't recall whether they are mbp or not |
| 20:44.43 | justincarmony | you guys should check out http://silverbackapp.com/ |
| 20:45.30 | justincarmony | makes for quick and easy usability testing |
| 20:46.00 | justincarmony | and excellent for showing clients who want to do dumb stuff where the actual problems are at |
| 20:54.50 | justincarmony | its super easy to use |
| 20:54.54 | justincarmony | been playing with it today :P |
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| 22:26.51 | DexterTheDragon | someone's getting fired http://gizmodo.com/5457588/mcgraw+hill-ceo-confirms-apple-tablet-iphone+style-os |
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| 22:41.30 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: Whoa, that guy better start packing up his office. |
| 22:42.58 | Dezertol | what would be cool is if you could do a one handed key board like them ones for people with only one hand |
| 22:43.16 | Dezertol | then the doc's hauling the tablet around could type while they hold it |
| 22:43.25 | mgeary | i'd love to be able to type with one hand |
| 22:43.35 | Dezertol | they have one handed keyboards |
| 22:43.45 | Dezertol | you use your thumb to toggle which side of the keyboard your using |
| 22:43.47 | Dezertol | or soemthing like that |
| 22:44.22 | Dezertol | could you imagine the amount of ram you'd need to process "idea's" into text |
| 22:44.24 | Dezertol | lol |
| 22:44.30 | SunSparc | The keyboard and mouse interface is so cumbersome. |
| 22:44.47 | SunSparc | Dezertol: Yeah, a bit I am sure. |
| 22:44.56 | Dezertol | you ever read snowcrash |
| 22:45.28 | Dezertol | http://www.thinkgeek.com/books/scifi/2916/ |
| 22:45.52 | SunSparc | Heard about it, but have not read it, yet. |
| 22:46.35 | Dezertol | for how long ago it was written |
| 22:46.54 | Dezertol | it's pretty cool |
| 22:47.02 | Dezertol | they have a "meta verse" |
| 22:47.14 | Dezertol | where people more or less live in vr |
| 22:47.40 | Dezertol | it's worth a read from the idea's and tech describing the meta verse |
| 22:47.57 | Dezertol | don't care so much about the "drama" aspect of the bboko |
| 22:47.59 | Dezertol | book |
| 22:48.08 | Dezertol | but the rest of it is cool |
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| 22:48.25 | beandog | o hai |
| 22:49.18 | SunSparc | ~welcome beandog |
| 22:49.19 | ibot | [all in unison] Hi, beandog! |
| 22:50.06 | beandog | :D |
| 22:50.27 | beandog | it's either that, or the sour cream I sat in earlier. |
| 22:50.42 | mgeary | love ~~ sour cream |
| 22:51.26 | mindjuju | xcept for ice cream :) |
| 22:51.26 | beandog | mindjuju is creamist |
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| 23:16.02 | beandog | mm |
| 23:16.07 | beandog | I always forget how much I love lastfm |
| 23:16.16 | beandog | ~musicanueva++ |
| 23:31.55 | supernovia | wooo! what a day |
| 23:31.59 | supernovia | how are things here? |
| 23:32.07 | SunSparc | ~tuesday |
| 23:32.08 | ibot | Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday). |
| 23:32.14 | SunSparc | :) |
| 23:33.36 | justincarmony | ~wednesday |
| 23:33.37 | ibot | Wednesday sucks, because it is only half way through the week. |
| 23:34.20 | supernovia | hehe |
| 23:34.41 | SunSparc | ibot, you have a bad attitude |
| 23:34.52 | supernovia | ~thursday |
| 23:34.53 | ibot | "This must be Thursday. I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent) |
| 23:35.11 | supernovia | awe. I <3 Arthur |
| 23:36.03 | supernovia | so there's this weird ad... "I'm a PC and Windows 7 was my idea" - with a girl wearing a faint smirk |
| 23:37.01 | supernovia | I moused over it hoping for some kind of commentary text.. but there is none, and the ad is by MS. I don't get it. :-/ |
| 23:37.02 | herlo | me too, Arthur was awesome! |
| 23:37.12 | herlo | supernovia: it's MS? |
| 23:37.20 | supernovia | Yeah.. |
| 23:37.22 | herlo | that explains everything! |
| 23:37.31 | herlo | supernovia: I was not asking, I was implying |
| 23:37.46 | herlo | that it's because it's MS that put the ad together |
| 23:37.52 | supernovia | Ah. Yeah the look on her face is like "don't even think about saying hello.." |
| 23:37.56 | herlo | did you not hear about their 'release parties' catastrophe? |
| 23:38.20 | supernovia | I saw a crazy video about how to host a release party |
| 23:38.48 | herlo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ |
| 23:38.49 | herlo | yeah |
| 23:39.53 | supernovia | that's just .. |
| 23:40.08 | supernovia | yeah this is the one I saw and I thought it was a joke |
| 23:40.17 | herlo | it's not! |
| 23:40.24 | supernovia | it should be :) |
| 23:40.26 | herlo | thus, it's MS? :) |
| 23:41.56 | herlo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StRqmPHOKEc&feature=related <-- supernovia, this one is weird/funny |
| 23:43.01 | unum | it's really funny to watch MS try and duplicate what's being done by the free software world |
| 23:43.07 | supernovia | heheh |
| 23:43.15 | beandog | that is so embarassing. |
| 23:43.36 | unum | do they still hirer students to run campus clubs? |
| 23:43.44 | beandog | Our lives are so vapid that we're going to get party balloons for a new release of Windows. Oh, and I'll be making brownies. |
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| 23:44.09 | unum | we do have release parties for linux |
| 23:44.18 | beandog | yes, but Linux isn't lame. |
| 23:44.18 | unum | not that I've ever attended one |
| 23:44.25 | supernovia | I've had parties when my favorite vegetables are on sale -but this? |
| 23:44.34 | beandog | Besides |
| 23:44.39 | supernovia | btw the hitler one is looking awesome but my kids want to see that tracert video again.. lol |
| 23:44.45 | beandog | What are the chances of getting a 60 year old grandma to show up for an OS party? |
| 23:45.04 | beandog | wow |
| 23:45.07 | supernovia | well and I love how they tell you to test everything in advance |
| 23:45.08 | beandog | shaky-cam to the rescue |
| 23:45.08 | beandog | freak |
| 23:45.25 | beandog | This video could use some more CGI |
| 23:45.35 | beandog | like, raptors jumping in the window and eating everyone |
| 23:46.51 | herlo | lol |
| 23:47.29 | supernovia | lol |
| 23:48.05 | herlo | unum: also, Linux release parties aren't organized by anyone but those who are interested. They aren't marketed too much and they are much more ad-hoc than the pretend ad-hoc ones MS was suggesting |
| 23:50.49 | beandog | "Be sure to install Windows 7 a few days before the party" <golf laugh> |
| 23:50.54 | beandog | Oy. |
| 23:52.45 | supernovia | trying to imagine the marketers' train of thought |
| 23:53.20 | beandog | I'm not sure I wanna open that black hole |
| 23:53.25 | beandog | supernovia, whats this video you keep talking about? |
| 23:53.39 | supernovia | oh it's the one stderr posted yesterday |
| 23:53.42 | supernovia | let me get it |
| 23:53.45 | beandog | linkie? |
| 23:53.57 | supernovia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXmv8quf_xM |
| 23:54.06 | DexterTheDragon | hey beandog |
| 23:54.22 | beandog | DexterTheDragon, o hai, hows it going |
| 23:56.47 | justincarmony | herlo: http://blog.utos.org/2010/01/26/geek-lunch-january-is-indian-food/ -- is it the 26th or 29th? :P |
| 23:57.05 | herlo | oops |
| 23:57.40 | herlo | Fixed! |
| 23:57.51 | SunSparc | supernovia: that poor little kid, if it is notoriety he is looking for, he is certainly getting it. |
| 23:58.17 | supernovia | hehe, yeah |
| 23:58.31 | beandog | dont forget to subscribe |
| 23:58.45 | beandog | poor kid |
| 23:59.04 | beandog | Someone's got a bright future as an MS certified admin |
| 23:59.10 | SunSparc | LOLZ |
| 23:59.14 | SunSparc | Heaven help us. |
| 23:59.47 | supernovia | hehe, I think it's cute |