| 00:00.00 | mgeary | no kidding |
| 00:00.05 | Lone_Wanderer | By which I mean, I may mock you openly. |
| 00:00.16 | Lone_Wanderer | But in a friendly, loving way. |
| 00:00.20 | supernovia | My doctor asked me to play Mob Wars |
| 00:01.04 | supernovia | that was kinda funny. I tried it, it was addicting, so I gave it up. |
| 00:01.11 | mgeary | tell him you'll do it in trade for him not billing you for services |
| 00:02.02 | supernovia | he used to be a neighbor and has helped me out a few times when we had no insurance |
| 00:02.57 | mindjuju | mgeary, you on FB these days? |
| 00:03.05 | mgeary | mindjuju: sort of |
| 00:03.17 | mgeary | i'm on FB, but i've never entered a darn thing there |
| 00:03.20 | mgeary | don't really plan on it |
| 00:03.21 | mindjuju | was it you or was it somebody else that said they'd never join? |
| 00:03.27 | mgeary | heh. probably me |
| 00:03.37 | mindjuju | :), thought it might have been |
| 00:05.02 | mgeary | i had to join for a work project |
| 00:05.08 | mgeary | and then started getting friended |
| 00:08.49 | mindjuju | slippery slope |
| 00:11.43 | Lone_Wanderer | I just looked you up and friended you, mgeary. |
| 00:11.56 | mgeary | ;) |
| 00:12.47 | Lone_Wanderer | I trust you're the one with no photo or information. |
| 00:13.12 | mgeary | that's me |
| 00:13.22 | mgeary | yep, there's the request |
| 00:14.55 | Lone_Wanderer | gotta go |
| 00:14.59 | Lone_Wanderer | see you all at the meeting |
| 00:15.07 | supernovia | cool.. see ya |
| 00:15.07 | influx | paca |
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| 00:15.15 | supernovia | paca! |
| 00:15.31 | supernovia | what language is that, influx? |
| 00:15.37 | influx | russian |
| 00:15.47 | supernovia | you speak russian? |
| 00:15.56 | influx | Nah. I only know a few words. |
| 00:16.00 | mgeary | romanovic does |
| 00:16.19 | influx | It'd be cool if I did, though. |
| 00:16.23 | supernovia | I used to be able to speak enough to carry on rich conversations with five year olds |
| 00:16.37 | supernovia | but their parents had to really dumb everything down for me |
| 00:17.01 | supernovia | (plus the kids didn't wince at my grammar) |
| 00:17.15 | influx | I had read somewhere that the grammar is looser than that of English. |
| 00:17.28 | influx | Or, not as strict. |
| 00:17.39 | mgeary | i doubt that. there are 7 cases in russian |
| 00:17.39 | influx | Where did you learn? |
| 00:17.40 | supernovia | more predictable, I would say |
| 00:18.11 | supernovia | yeah it's not that uncomplicated but usually once you know the rules youve got it |
| 00:18.19 | mgeary | as opposed to 4 cases in english (and most western-european langs) |
| 00:18.26 | supernovia | I studied it for 3 years in highschool then went there for a semester or so |
| 00:18.53 | supernovia | you can, however, arrange the words in your sentence pretty much any way you want and it'll still mean the same thing |
| 00:19.15 | supernovia | as long as they're conjugated correctly |
| 00:19.24 | mgeary | yeah, that's because you declinate according to the case |
| 00:19.28 | mgeary | same with German |
| 00:19.45 | mgeary | declinated, not conjugated. You only conjugate verbs ;) |
| 00:19.56 | supernovia | Good to know. |
| 00:20.12 | supernovia | Declinated, declinated, declinated. |
| 00:20.57 | PoeticIntensity | couldn't help it.... |
| 00:20.57 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE |
| 00:21.02 | influx | mgeary: I didn't know you speak Greek. |
| 00:21.13 | supernovia | lol |
| 00:21.21 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 00:22.08 | supernovia | everything is better .. auto tuuuned |
| 00:22.22 | PoeticIntensity | I love that, too... |
| 00:22.39 | PoeticIntensity | except, I highly doubt he was auto-tuned on that one. |
| 00:22.50 | supernovia | Yeah, it'd be better if he were :-D |
| 00:23.55 | PoeticIntensity | When my wife watched this the first time, she asked me, "Why did they overdub all that screaming and junk?" |
| 00:24.06 | PoeticIntensity | she couldn't believe that it was Balmer actually doing that. |
| 00:24.09 | supernovia | hehhe |
| 00:24.31 | PoeticIntensity | ...and ya gotta love.... |
| 00:24.35 | PoeticIntensity | the SWEAT RINGS! |
| 00:24.46 | supernovia | Oh yeah. Comes with any good rave right? |
| 00:24.53 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
| 00:37.22 | influx | Alright. Time to prepare for my departure. |
| 00:38.40 | Zelut | can anyone offer opinion on PEAR::DB? |
| 00:39.25 | Zelut | I'm mainly interested in good abstraction and portability |
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| 00:45.25 | blendmaster1024 | awww... meeting tonight? perfect timing! |
| 00:45.27 | blendmaster1024 | i can't come :( |
| 00:52.18 | macnewbold | Zelut: it's probably workable. Another solution I know of is adodb. personally I use CakePHP's built in ORM, which does stuff quite nicely |
| 00:52.26 | macnewbold | ~meeting time |
| 00:52.27 | ibot | [meeting time] there's a UPHPU meeting tonight, including the meeting-after-the-meeting at the Draper Applebee's from about 9pm to 1am |
| 00:54.10 | blendmaster1024 | maybe i could ... if i could get a ride down ... but otherwise i'd be stuck |
| 00:54.44 | blendmaster1024 | and i have something in the way, it's not big enough to get in the way if i have a ride, but if i don't it's not worth it to mom and dad to drive me down :( |
| 00:56.28 | fungus | blendmaster1024, where do you live? |
| 00:56.34 | blendmaster1024 | holladay |
| 00:56.55 | fungus | sorry, that's too far for me. |
| 00:57.01 | blendmaster1024 | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=4175+S+Carter+Cir,+Holladay,+UT+84124&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=48.688845,79.013672&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=4175+S+Carter+Cir,+Holladay,+Salt+Lake,+Utah+84124&t=h&z=16 |
| 00:59.18 | macnewbold | blendmaster1024: if I could get you there, would you have a way home? |
| 00:59.24 | blendmaster1024 | no |
| 00:59.57 | blendmaster1024 | if anyone lives near enough to just come by on the way there and back, then i can get there, but otherwise, i'm pretty stuck |
| 01:00.28 | blendmaster1024 | unless i can wheedle my parents into doing it - brb |
| 01:01.45 | blendmaster1024 | effing [very very angry face] |
| 01:02.13 | blendmaster1024 | she said she'd take me, she's not doing anything, except that i didn't give hre enough warning >:( |
| 01:02.32 | blendmaster1024 | i didn't even know until i joined the channel - i thought it was next week |
| 01:03.06 | blendmaster1024 | now where is my win7 rc install dvd... |
| 01:03.24 | blendmaster1024 | stupid win7 |
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| 01:18.15 | beandog | mindjuju: ping |
| 01:18.31 | supernovia | you ok beandog? |
| 01:18.48 | beandog | supernovia: really tired |
| 01:19.05 | beandog | supernovia: figured out the network, now the next hurdle is graphics |
| 01:19.10 | beandog | and then Active Directory |
| 01:19.12 | beandog | oy. |
| 01:19.17 | supernovia | graphics? |
| 01:19.18 | beandog | Im pooped. |
| 01:19.24 | macnewbold | ouch |
| 01:19.29 | macnewbold | winders? how painful |
| 01:19.31 | beandog | supernovia: intel gfx card, dual monitor, etc. |
| 01:19.36 | supernovia | Ah. |
| 01:19.42 | beandog | not the most stable combo |
| 01:19.50 | supernovia | sounds stressful. |
| 01:19.57 | beandog | yah |
| 01:19.58 | beandog | it is |
| 01:20.33 | supernovia | if you figure out how to pace yourself, let me know how :) |
| 01:20.49 | macnewbold | ~meeting time |
| 01:20.50 | ibot | methinks meeting time is there's a UPHPU meeting tonight, including the meeting-after-the-meeting at the Draper Applebee's from about 9pm to 1am |
| 01:20.59 | supernovia | but in the meantime, after parties reduce stress :) |
| 01:21.04 | beandog | yah |
| 01:21.08 | beandog | Ill at least come to Applebees |
| 01:21.11 | beandog | but I dunno about the rest |
| 01:21.16 | beandog | Im poopzored. |
| 01:22.08 | supernovia | I hear you |
| 01:22.29 | macnewbold | beandog: I'll bring you a CD so you can fix your windows box - Ubuntu 9.10 |
| 01:22.44 | beandog | macnewbold: Ive got one, thx |
| 01:22.56 | beandog | macnewbold: I need to hook into their AD domain |
| 01:22.59 | eggyknap | What's tonight's topic, anyway? |
| 01:23.14 | beandog | supernovia: if youre going to the meeting tonight will you do me a favor |
| 01:23.21 | supernovia | I could try - what's up? |
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| 01:23.40 | beandog | supernovia: tell mindjuju not to lock the door, so when I get there late (again) I don't get stuck out in the cold (again) |
| 01:24.15 | supernovia | oh no! |
| 01:24.49 | beandog | heh |
| 01:24.53 | supernovia | I will ask. If it's still locked though and you come late, just txt me |
| 01:25.22 | beandog | supernovia: okay, can you pm me your cell? I dunno what # I have ... |
| 01:25.27 | supernovia | yup |
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| 01:40.00 | supernovia | darn, trying to upload my homework and the silly program stinks. |
| 01:40.03 | supernovia | I'm going to be late |
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| 01:50.44 | influx | moo |
| 01:51.04 | fungus | oom |
| 01:53.50 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: slacker |
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| 02:04.43 | DexterTheDragon | ~rlart |
| 02:04.44 | ibot | slaps redroy upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 02:04.44 | utahcon | I am here to muck things up! |
| 02:04.47 | utahcon | ~lart DexterTheDragon |
| 02:04.47 | ibot | stamps DexterTheDragon on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 02:04.50 | utahcon | ~lart mindjuju |
| 02:04.50 | ibot | says "boot to the head" and knocks mindjuju over |
| 02:04.55 | utahcon | ~lart supernovia |
| 02:04.55 | ibot | takes a big bite out of supernovia's jugular vein |
| 02:04.57 | DexterTheDragon | ~dtdhit utahcon |
| 02:04.58 | ibot | ACTION stikes at utahcon with the ruinous sun scratch blinding utahcon in one eye! |
| 02:05.20 | influx | ~lart utahcon |
| 02:05.20 | ibot | puts on some milking gloves. "All right, now, utahcon, this won't hurt a bit...." |
| 02:05.30 | DexterTheDragon | ~bdhit utahcon |
| 02:05.30 | ibot | ACTION and dexterthedragon demonstrates the Iron Two Killers Hand on utahcon's forehead |
| 02:06.01 | utahcon | lol supernovia forgot to log out at home! |
| 02:06.40 | fungus | ~taunt supernovia |
| 02:06.41 | ibot | ACTION taunts supernovia a second time |
| 02:14.16 | utahcon | yo fungus!!! good to see you! |
| 02:19.03 | macnewbold2 | look at me I am macnewbold2 |
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| 02:19.20 | macnewbold2 | I thought you were dead |
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| 02:49.31 | beandog | milking gloves? |
| 02:50.21 | herlo | http://herlo.spreadshirt.com/men-s-raglan-ss-baseball-tee-A5569149/customize/color/70 <-- xkcd shirt :) |
| 02:50.25 | herlo | buy it! |
| 02:51.24 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: slacker! |
| 02:51.32 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: oh hush |
| 02:51.36 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: Im heading out soon |
| 02:51.42 | DexterTheDragon | \m/ |
| 02:54.18 | influx | \m/ >.< \m/ |
| 02:56.09 | herlo | beandog: why are you suck a slacker? |
| 02:56.32 | influx | Has anyone else noticed my handle on the dry-erase board? |
| 02:56.43 | beandog | herlo: long day at work |
| 02:56.47 | influx | I think mindjuju is holding a grudge until I return his ASP books. |
| 02:56.49 | beandog | Okay Im outta |
| 02:56.52 | herlo | beandog: you have a job again? |
| 02:56.57 | beandog | herlo: yah |
| 02:57.00 | herlo | congrats! |
| 02:57.06 | herlo | come to applebees at 9 and tell me about it :) |
| 02:57.11 | beandog | k |
| 02:57.12 | beandog | tah |
| 02:58.24 | fungus | maybe you should change you nick, that one sounds much more fun. ;) |
| 02:58.57 | influx | haha |
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| 03:07.56 | justincarmony | I have no idea why my brother's laptop won't connect to the uphpu wireless router |
| 03:10.51 | fungus | me neither, but the solution is here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download |
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| 03:21.10 | DexterTheDragon | ~food |
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| 03:34.16 | utahcon | We are flaming... lets go flame at AppleBees! |
| 03:34.28 | DexterTheDragon | utahcon: your flaming |
| 03:34.39 | herlo | utahcon: shutup! |
| 03:34.45 | justincarmony | utahcon: DexterTheDragon http://xkcd.com/378/ |
| 03:35.13 | DexterTheDragon | justincarmony: http://xkcd.com/386/ |
| 03:35.36 | justincarmony | hehe |
| 03:43.09 | justincarmony | utahcon: pay attention! |
| 03:43.11 | justincarmony | :P |
| 03:52.57 | influx | BRAVO |
| 03:53.06 | influx | *clap clap clap* |
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| 07:39.06 | supernovia | d'oh! I just realized they gave me the wrong bill at applebees |
| 07:39.29 | wps | you paid for mindjuju's $30 steak???? |
| 07:39.48 | supernovia | hehe |
| 07:40.13 | supernovia | I know I paid less than I was supposed to... |
| 07:40.48 | wps | how was the meeting? |
| 07:41.02 | supernovia | It was fun |
| 07:41.23 | supernovia | I learned some cool stuff about linux, carmony's presentation was fun too |
| 07:42.09 | supernovia | chatting afterward was the best though :-) |
| 07:42.57 | supernovia | although I do wish applebees had better group seating so we could all interact more... hardly got to see half the table |
| 07:43.21 | wps | do they seem to mind you handing out for 3 hours? |
| 07:43.33 | supernovia | not at all |
| 07:43.39 | wps | s/handing/hanging/ |
| 07:44.03 | supernovia | most ppl didnt' stay so late this time |
| 07:44.25 | supernovia | it's just so nice to get to go hang out with geeky kindred spirits every now and then (and I wish it were more often really) |
| 07:45.55 | wps | is your husband geeky? |
| 07:47.55 | supernovia | he's a construction worker and we've been separated for quite a while |
| 07:48.32 | wps | ah; I apologize |
| 07:48.55 | wps | my wife does a good job at listening to me talk about geek stuff :) |
| 07:48.59 | supernovia | no worries.. I am not offended |
| 07:49.16 | supernovia | that is good :) |
| 07:49.49 | wps | and she actually gets most of it quite well⦠which is nice so that we can actually have a conversation |
| 07:50.16 | supernovia | what's she into? |
| 07:50.21 | wps | she's a nurse |
| 07:50.27 | supernovia | well that's cool. |
| 07:50.33 | wps | she's interested in programming |
| 07:50.40 | wps | would like to learn |
| 07:50.47 | supernovia | maybe you should send her to uphpu :-D |
| 07:51.11 | wps | that'd probably work |
| 07:51.23 | wps | :) |
| 07:51.24 | supernovia | I really love it when other girls show up. swb is one of my most favorite people in the world |
| 07:52.47 | wps | does she have a site of her stuff? |
| 07:53.12 | supernovia | hopefully I'll get to know the couple of girls in my tech classes this semester. swb? Yeah, she has some stuff up |
| 07:53.41 | supernovia | do you know her? She moved across the country, which makes me sad |
| 07:53.58 | wps | not very well, no |
| 07:53.59 | supernovia | but when she visits we make up for lost time |
| 07:54.23 | supernovia | http://designsimply.com/ |
| 07:56.11 | wps | known her for a while though through the groupâ¦Â chatting and at a meeting or two |
| 07:56.57 | DexterTheDragon | supernovia: goto bed |
| 07:57.05 | supernovia | I really should huh |
| 07:57.05 | supernovia | you're home already? |
| 07:57.11 | DexterTheDragon | yeah just got home |
| 07:57.17 | supernovia | (I guess that's a duh question) |
| 07:57.56 | wps | you're a real geek when you get online as soon as you walk through the door to chat with the person you just said goodnight to |
| 07:58.04 | wps | :) |
| 07:59.15 | supernovia | Well, I do think I will go to sleep - it's getting about that time :) Have a good night, guys! |
| 07:59.22 | wps | goodnight |
| 08:08.03 | supernovia | oh noes. |
| 08:09.24 | supernovia | my cell phone is not in my pocket. :-/ |
| 08:09.36 | supernovia | which means it's at applebees or bill good, on silent |
| 08:09.49 | wps | crud |
| 08:10.13 | wps | hopefully bill goodâ¦Â probably easier to retrieve there |
| 08:10.19 | supernovia | yeah |
| 08:11.27 | supernovia | well, maybe I dropped in the car too - I could check there. will in the a.m. |
| 08:11.47 | wps | I wouldn't be able to sleep until I'd checked the car :) |
| 08:11.58 | wps | speaking of sleep⦠|
| 08:12.20 | supernovia | it's dark and cold though. tomorrow morning will do. :) |
| 08:12.52 | supernovia | oh . I gotta take the trash out anyway I guess. |
| 08:13.13 | supernovia | well - have a good night for real this time ;) |
| 08:13.28 | wps | later |
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| 14:10.24 | utahcon | Gotta love when the a-hole sysadmin sees your screwup in the morning... should hear about this for days to come. |
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| 15:31.08 | herlo | lol |
| 15:31.20 | utahcon | you know you love it |
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| 15:43.14 | herlo | utahcon: I do love attending Ignite Salt Lake. |
| 15:44.52 | utahcon | yeah |
| 15:44.55 | utahcon | I know |
| 15:45.20 | herlo | well, time to go a baby's heartbeat :) |
| 15:45.43 | utahcon | herlo: do you have the testicle punch image still? |
| 15:46.07 | utahcon | awesome... baby heartbeats are awesome |
| 15:46.08 | herlo | what are you talking about?? |
| 15:46.29 | utahcon | You sent me a pic once of a book (guide of some sort) where a dude punches a dude in the nuts |
| 15:46.50 | herlo | utahcon: was it when we were looking for logos? |
| 15:46.58 | utahcon | might have been |
| 15:47.19 | herlo | I can forward you that list I think. I'll see if I can locate it later today |
| 15:47.25 | utahcon | no worries |
| 15:47.32 | utahcon | I think you stumbled it actually |
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| 16:00.38 | utahcon | josephscott: Any word on WordCamp yet? |
| 16:01.05 | utahcon | or do I have to drive to Denver? |
| 16:01.21 | josephscott | no, my time went other places, so I really haven't done anything to pull it together |
| 16:01.57 | utahcon | Do you need volunteers to help. I am willing |
| 16:04.10 | josephscott | I need to double the number of hours in my day :-) |
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| 16:05.34 | justincarmony | Good morning |
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| 16:08.33 | utahcon | hey cro, justincarmony |
| 16:08.43 | justincarmony | hey utahcon |
| 16:08.47 | justincarmony | how late were you guys there? |
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| 16:09.18 | cro | sorry I missed it guys |
| 16:09.30 | cro | was looking forward to it but just couldn't get down there after my evening meeting @ the hospital |
| 16:09.37 | justincarmony | yeah |
| 16:09.40 | utahcon | justincarmony: I left before you. |
| 16:09.46 | justincarmony | utahcon: oh yeah... |
| 16:09.55 | utahcon | cro for the kids or family? |
| 16:10.08 | cro | HopeKids |
| 16:10.11 | utahcon | ah good |
| 16:10.21 | utahcon | well... except for the kids... |
| 16:10.23 | utahcon | but I think you know what I meant. |
| 16:10.28 | justincarmony | undertakingyou: This one is just for you http://tinyurl.com/yansr5x |
| 16:10.36 | cro | :-) |
| 16:10.53 | utahcon | justincarmony: awesome |
| 16:11.00 | supernovia | hey justincarmony - I think I shafted your brother |
| 16:11.07 | supernovia | they gave me a different bill last night |
| 16:12.09 | utahcon | supernovia FTW! |
| 16:12.22 | supernovia | hehe |
| 16:12.46 | supernovia | Oh, I still have to go check my car though and hope the cell is there - otherwise... |
| 16:12.54 | utahcon | how did I miss Ping.fm being bought by Seesmic? |
| 16:13.00 | cro | supernovia: you lost your cell again? |
| 16:13.06 | justincarmony | oh yeah utahcon what was up with the turkeys comment? :P |
| 16:13.11 | utahcon | supernovia: you are the worst with the cell... this is the third time I know of you have lost it |
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| 16:13.34 | utahcon | justincarmony: mindjuju shared a story about his second biggest fire mishap |
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| 16:13.37 | supernovia | lol |
| 16:13.40 | justincarmony | supernovia: LOL, serious? I remember looking at his, and it looked more or less correct |
| 16:13.43 | supernovia | well, and I've dropped it in a toilet twice |
| 16:13.44 | justincarmony | hahaah |
| 16:14.08 | utahcon | supernovia: if it makes you feel better... in a 2 month span I washed a phone (it was weeks old) and jumped in a pool with the replacement. |
| 16:14.14 | supernovia | hehe, well we got the 2 for 20, right? I forgot that when I paid the bill for less than 10 |
| 16:14.29 | supernovia | You know what utahcon? I had to learn the trick. |
| 16:14.41 | utahcon | music stopped... playlist ended... dangit... I had such a groove going. |
| 16:14.54 | supernovia | The phone dies when that happens, right? Shuts off. Take the phone and the battery and put it in a bag of dry rice. Leave it there for a few days |
| 16:15.18 | supernovia | with a little luck, it'll be fine when it goes back on |
| 16:15.31 | supernovia | (well, when you put the battery back in it and turn it on, of course) |
| 16:15.38 | utahcon | supernovia: bowls of rice/catlitter are my friends |
| 16:15.46 | supernovia | hehe |
| 16:16.19 | supernovia | well that's good then |
| 16:16.35 | supernovia | The 2nd time I dropped it, I just washed it off as well as I could and did that -- no problems |
| 16:17.12 | supernovia | then it got washed, not by me, and the person who did it just put the phone back on the table for me |
| 16:17.36 | supernovia | it didn't survive. Hence my really old beat up cell phone now. |
| 16:19.55 | justincarmony | lol, Brack has had terrible luck with cellphones in the past |
| 16:20.07 | justincarmony | so the only phone he would use was one of those nokia bricks |
| 16:21.08 | supernovia | hehe, yeah last time mine busted I just asked around to see if anyone had a really old crappy phone they weren't using anymore |
| 16:21.29 | supernovia | This one was in my pocket last night. I think I just need better pockets. |
| 16:24.06 | supernovia | lol @ http://blog.utahcon.com/funny/ignite-slc-4-be-there "Is it a bunch of nerds?" |
| 16:26.52 | utahcon | thanks :D |
| 16:27.19 | utahcon | why a midget? why not. |
| 16:27.26 | justincarmony | lol |
| 16:27.30 | supernovia | heheh |
| 16:27.43 | supernovia | what I reallllly need is a communicator badge |
| 16:27.44 | justincarmony | oh... ignite uses... coldfusion... for their website :P |
| 16:27.57 | supernovia | oh no! |
| 16:28.03 | utahcon | justincarmony: there is time to save them1 |
| 16:28.15 | utahcon | s/1/!/ |
| 16:28.23 | justincarmony | lol |
| 16:45.07 | justincarmony | lol, supernothere ? :P |
| 16:51.20 | utahcon | justincarmony: she is super not here |
| 16:52.30 | justincarmony | lol |
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| 17:07.43 | influx | Thanks for the books! |
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| 17:13.24 | macnewbold | ~lart fungus_ |
| 17:13.24 | ibot | takes a big bite out of fungus_'s jugular vein |
| 17:13.28 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 17:13.30 | fungus_ | lol, That'll teach me |
| 17:13.34 | macnewbold | sorry |
| 17:13.42 | macnewbold | i was switching nicks around to stake my claim a little better |
| 17:13.46 | fungus | hehe, it's funny. |
| 17:14.04 | macnewbold | i've now got at least 6 variations attached to my registered account |
| 17:23.01 | utahcon | fungus: is there a way to know if keys are enabled on a table? |
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| 17:23.38 | fungus | describe table shows what keys exist. |
| 17:23.56 | fungus | explain <query> will tell you what indexes a query is using. |
| 17:24.28 | utahcon | fungus: well for our update we use DISABLE KEYS and then ENABLE KEYS. Last night I think it failed before running ENABLE. Any way to check that? |
| 17:25.27 | fungus | not sure |
| 17:26.20 | utahcon | ok |
| 17:26.22 | utahcon | thanks |
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| 18:18.18 | mindjuju | it's weird what your brain thinks about when you're doing something tedious, for some reason while filing out this online form, i started to think about flying the Minerva map in Descent |
| 18:20.03 | justincarmony | lol |
| 18:20.22 | mindjuju | justincarmony, i'm eating me some FINE popeye's chicken right now |
| 18:20.24 | mindjuju | thx! |
| 18:20.27 | justincarmony | haha |
| 18:20.31 | justincarmony | is it yummy? |
| 18:20.36 | mindjuju | way good |
| 18:20.47 | mindjuju | here is a vid if you've forgotten descent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W6BMPiuGr0 |
| 18:20.48 | jsmith | mindjuju: Seriously? |
| 18:20.57 | mindjuju | yeah jsmith, no thanks to you |
| 18:21.08 | jsmith | :-p |
| 18:21.13 | mindjuju | justincarmony infiltrated the base, got the chicken and escaped |
| 18:21.20 | mindjuju | and then brought it to the uphpu meeting |
| 18:21.29 | jsmith | mindjuju: Beauty, eh? |
| 18:21.35 | mindjuju | by the way, supposedly, they are going to make a new Descent |
| 18:22.01 | justincarmony | lol |
| 18:22.05 | justincarmony | I remember decent |
| 18:22.09 | justincarmony | I always got turned around |
| 18:23.29 | mindjuju | i wonder if kali.net is still up |
| 18:23.33 | mindjuju | then we could play it online |
| 18:23.44 | SunSparc | heh, I wonder if my subscription is still valid... |
| 18:24.15 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Did you see that PM the other day? |
| 18:24.26 | mindjuju | i did |
| 18:24.34 | SunSparc | So you got the info? |
| 18:24.36 | mindjuju | thx for your help on that |
| 18:24.39 | mindjuju | yup! |
| 18:24.39 | SunSparc | np |
| 18:24.48 | SunSparc | How was the meeting last night? |
| 18:24.57 | mindjuju | packed |
| 18:25.04 | mindjuju | and after hours party was a blast |
| 18:25.08 | SunSparc | Really? How many showed up? |
| 18:25.11 | mindjuju | largest we've ever had, prolly 20 there |
| 18:25.18 | SunSparc | Nice |
| 18:25.59 | mindjuju | next time, i'll have to give applebees a warning that we're coming with a group that big, they were disorganized last night having 20 people party show up at 9p |
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| 18:27.25 | SunSparc | That would be cool if they started to expect it every month and gave the group some special privileges. |
| 18:27.39 | mindjuju | they do |
| 18:27.49 | SunSparc | Free ice cream? |
| 18:27.50 | mindjuju | we're there past their close time by 30 minutes |
| 18:27.58 | SunSparc | Nice |
| 18:28.02 | mindjuju | they gave us coupons for free appetizers time before last |
| 18:28.43 | SunSparc | It has been so long since I have been to a meeting. Seems like so many activities are vying for my Thursday evenings. |
| 18:28.58 | mindjuju | true that |
| 18:29.12 | mindjuju | but there is only one uphpu after hours party |
| 18:31.32 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:39.58 | utahcon | wishes they would tour the US... would attend. |
| 18:47.59 | PoeticIntensity | might wanna change the topic... |
| 18:48.12 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, macnewbold, thebigdog, wps.... ^^^ |
| 18:48.34 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org |
| 18:49.25 | wps | I think the liquid cooling in my mac has broken |
| 18:49.35 | wps | I'm hearing liquid sounds |
| 18:49.42 | wps | :( |
| 18:50.26 | influx | Bummer. |
| 18:50.31 | SunSparc | Probably just the nature sounds CD. |
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| 19:18.21 | SunSparc | Where in Utah Valley can I go to try out some excellent headphones? |
| 19:18.44 | SunSparc | Seems like there are not good audiophiles stores around here. |
| 19:19.29 | mgeary | no idea |
| 19:21.37 | SunSparc | Anybody? Anybody? |
| 19:22.11 | PoeticIntensity | Best headphones I've ever heard needed to be bought online... |
| 19:22.22 | PoeticIntensity | Grado's SR225 |
| 19:22.37 | PoeticIntensity | bought em' 5 years ago, and still use em' almost every day. |
| 19:22.56 | SunSparc | I am looking at these: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001RCD2DW |
| 19:23.06 | PoeticIntensity | what ya gonna use em' for? |
| 19:23.06 | SunSparc | But I have heard good things about Grado's |
| 19:23.14 | PoeticIntensity | just general music listening? |
| 19:23.21 | SunSparc | Music while programming |
| 19:23.52 | thebigdog | SunSparc: i use skullcandy headphones that are pretty good |
| 19:23.56 | mgeary | if i were crazy enough to spend >200 on headphones, i think i'd get those Bose QC ones, but that may just be effective marketing |
| 19:24.19 | PoeticIntensity | dang.... $200+ for general music listening.... dang... |
| 19:24.36 | mgeary | yeah, my philosophy is a bit different |
| 19:24.36 | PoeticIntensity | Bose (IMO) sucks rocks. |
| 19:24.44 | thebigdog | like these http://tinyurl.com/yb3zjes |
| 19:24.46 | SunSparc | I have tried the QC 15's. Impressive. I just do not like the fact that it requires batteries in order to listen to anything. |
| 19:24.54 | mgeary | SunSparc: strongly agreed |
| 19:25.21 | SunSparc | thebigdog: Those would be nice for MW2; |
| 19:25.24 | SunSparc | With the mic |
| 19:25.29 | mgeary | i have 3 ~$20 sets of Koss headphones. They have a lifetime warranty, and each one breaks after about 12-18 months of use, but then i just ship them back, pay $6 for handling, and get a replacement |
| 19:25.39 | PoeticIntensity | SunSparc, I'm just curious... why you willing to pay so much for some cans? |
| 19:25.42 | thebigdog | SunSparc: yeah that are pretty nice |
| 19:25.56 | thebigdog | i have another pair of sony ones that have lasted for like 4yrs that are nice i use @ work |
| 19:25.57 | wps | heyâ¦Â it's ray |
| 19:25.59 | mgeary | with 3 of them, i always have at least one backup, and it'll be a long time before i get up to the $200 range in handling costs |
| 19:26.03 | wps | what's up, thebigdog? |
| 19:26.09 | thebigdog | wps: not much |
| 19:26.11 | wps | uhâ¦Â that sounds wrong |
| 19:26.26 | wps | thebigdog, what's up? |
| 19:26.30 | wps | that's better |
| 19:26.35 | thebigdog | haha...just home for the day |
| 19:26.36 | mgeary | thebigdog: kk |
| 19:26.50 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: I really want to hear the music and have an amazing listening experience. ;) |
| 19:27.06 | PoeticIntensity | cool.... |
| 19:27.11 | PoeticIntensity | I'd recommend www.headphone.com |
| 19:27.18 | utahcon | SunSparc: Headphones TV Specialist in SLC... call them if they don't have, they will know who would. |
| 19:27.22 | thebigdog | i needed to change my bank account |
| 19:27.28 | thebigdog | my bank went out of business |
| 19:27.29 | PoeticIntensity | they have some pretty useful "best cans for the price-point" charts... |
| 19:27.32 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: Yeah, I have played on that site for a while. |
| 19:27.43 | mgeary | thebigdog: Barnes? |
| 19:27.47 | thebigdog | yep |
| 19:27.54 | mgeary | thebigdog: what was the fallout for you on that? |
| 19:28.02 | thebigdog | nothing really |
| 19:28.06 | mgeary | i mean, the FDIC only insures 250k, so you probably lost a ton of cash |
| 19:28.11 | thebigdog | haha |
| 19:28.21 | thebigdog | no i lost tons last year with the stock market tanking |
| 19:28.24 | brasto2 | I need to configure smb to be a dhc after all. There are 5 servers. I thought I could log in to each of them and see which ones have Samba installed. Unfortunately all of them have it. I checked the config files next to see which one might be set as a master. They all seem to have the same config, too. Is there a way to see which one(s) are in charge other than what I've been trying? |
| 19:28.38 | thebigdog | btw i think it will drop more again in the new few months |
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| 19:29.29 | thebigdog | wow PoeticIntensity that website had some crazy stuff on it |
| 19:29.50 | thebigdog | custom ear pieces for $1k that is crazy |
| 19:29.55 | PoeticIntensity | thebigdog, yeah... I was researching reference headphones with which to mix and master music. |
| 19:30.00 | PoeticIntensity | heh... check this out... |
| 19:30.01 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.headphone.com/selection-guide/top-picks/sennheiser-hd-800.php |
| 19:30.09 | PoeticIntensity | 1400.00 for headphones. |
| 19:30.37 | PoeticIntensity | I ended up with my beloved Grados... |
| 19:31.04 | thebigdog | yeah i was looking at those |
| 19:31.19 | thebigdog | i dont think i will ever pay over $50 for head phones |
| 19:31.25 | PoeticIntensity | http://www.gradolabs.com/product_pages/sr225.htm |
| 19:31.42 | PoeticIntensity | heh.... Have you ever heard any other type? |
| 19:32.04 | PoeticIntensity | A few people have bet me they couldn't tell the difference between their Wal-mart brand and mine.... |
| 19:32.10 | PoeticIntensity | They all were pretty much blown away.. |
| 19:32.31 | SunSparc | There really is a difference in headphones. |
| 19:32.34 | unum | I bet I couldn't |
| 19:32.38 | PoeticIntensity | So, yeah... It's a pretty penny for headphones, but if ya use em' as much as I do, it's totally worth it. |
| 19:32.41 | unum | but I'm pretty sure I'm partially deaf |
| 19:32.45 | PoeticIntensity | doesn't matter. |
| 19:32.54 | PoeticIntensity | the difference is fairly evident. |
| 19:33.54 | PoeticIntensity | just because you're partially deaf doesn't mean you can't discern audio quality. |
| 19:34.12 | PoeticIntensity | just means we'll have to pump up the volume a bit... ;-) |
| 19:35.21 | PoeticIntensity | anyway... I tend just a bit towards being an audiophile, so.... grain-o-salt might be a good idea. |
| 19:35.45 | mindjuju | oh i don't know about ahtt |
| 19:35.54 | mindjuju | you are the #uphpu resident sound engineer |
| 19:36.07 | PoeticIntensity | tee hee... |
| 19:36.13 | PoeticIntensity | I've been mixing music like a mad-man. |
| 19:36.36 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: you an audiophile, and you scoff at $200+ for general music enjoyment? |
| 19:37.20 | PoeticIntensity | yeah. |
| 19:37.21 | mindjuju | d00d! PI got served! |
| 19:37.27 | orsonj | heh, I listen to mp3s on a $20 mp3 player with $10 headphones |
| 19:37.30 | PoeticIntensity | if I didn't mix music, I would have never bought em'. |
| 19:37.48 | PoeticIntensity | the problem is - with a good EQ, I can make my $10.00 wal-mart brands sound almost identical... |
| 19:37.54 | mindjuju | though i do side with sunsparc on this topic |
| 19:38.05 | mindjuju | i have a computer that does NOTHING other than feed music to my brain |
| 19:38.08 | PoeticIntensity | with mixing music, I *need* to hear what the music is telling me. |
| 19:38.11 | mindjuju | and handle visualizations |
| 19:38.23 | mindjuju | it's my life support |
| 19:38.34 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, you can't tell me that an EQ can't reproduce what good cans can... |
| 19:38.58 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: Then maybe I should be shopping for a good EQ that makes my white earbuds sound better. |
| 19:39.00 | mindjuju | oh, i'm not saying that, but i am saying sometimes a person has to spend a penny to feed the brain |
| 19:39.24 | SunSparc | Get what you pay for? |
| 19:39.35 | PoeticIntensity | SunSparc, use audacious or xmms, or some windows equivalent... (winamp?) ... they all have EQs with 10-30 bands... |
| 19:40.00 | mindjuju | the music supplied from the computer is sent to a mixer that mixes it with the audio from my work desktop where my softphone resides, all this so, when you call me on my office line, i'm STILL listening to techno |
| 19:40.01 | PoeticIntensity | with a few hours of tinkering, you'll have a preset that'll save you $200.00 |
| 19:40.21 | PoeticIntensity | mindjuju, *THAT* is awesome! |
| 19:40.29 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:40.50 | PoeticIntensity | heh..... SunSparc pay me $200.00, and I'll come make your current headphones sounds AMAZING... ;-) |
| 19:40.57 | PoeticIntensity | sounds = sound |
| 19:41.15 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: lol |
| 19:41.25 | SunSparc | iTunes has has 10 bands. |
| 19:41.27 | PoeticIntensity | FWIW, I use $9.00 headphones at work, and they sound pretty much the same as my grados at home. |
| 19:41.36 | PoeticIntensity | 10 bands is plenty. |
| 19:42.38 | brasto | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5osJ8-NttnU |
| 19:42.55 | brasto | Can I still dunk? Are you stupid? |
| 19:42.58 | brasto | I love that line |
| 19:45.40 | mindjuju | i can honestly say i never saw an eisode of leno, i don't remember what it was he did, but he did some program that I didn't like and didn't make an effort to see any of his shows |
| 19:47.14 | macnewbold | for me, the only good part of his show I recall was jaywalking |
| 19:51.25 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: I would probably use whatever cans I got for gaming also. :) |
| 19:51.41 | brasto | I don't think I've ever seen one of his shows entirely through either |
| 19:52.05 | PoeticIntensity | however, I once used my grados for Unreal Tournament, and I was very surprised at the audio quality of the game... |
| 19:52.14 | SunSparc | I have tried Leno, but he usually is too unfunny or too crass. |
| 19:52.20 | brasto | each time I've seen parts of his show, he's had crass humor |
| 19:52.25 | brasto | yea, exactly SunSparc |
| 19:52.26 | PoeticIntensity | that's an old game, too... So today's games probably offer much higher fidelity... |
| 19:52.48 | SunSparc | PoeticIntensity: Yeah, I have read that from other people also. |
| 19:53.02 | brasto | I think a person who can be funny without being crass shows greater tallent. Anyone can crack a fart or a sex joke. |
| 19:53.14 | SunSparc | Probably scare me out of my socks playing Half-Life 2. |
| 19:53.15 | PoeticIntensity | "Toilets are FUNNY!" |
| 19:53.21 | PoeticIntensity | SunSparc, yeah... no doubt... |
| 19:53.36 | brasto | I liked the Michael Jordan segment for Michael more than Jay |
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| 20:22.45 | utahcon | anyone here uber familiar with VirtualBox? |
| 20:27.09 | mindjuju | i have a couple VMs running through virtualbox, but i won't say uber familiar |
| 20:27.30 | mindjuju | though, from what i've seen, there isn't that much to it, command line console and then gui console |
| 20:27.48 | utahcon | Well I was wondering if there was anyway to tell the guest OS that host is running 64-bit when it is actually running 32-bit, even though the hardware is actually 64-bit |
| 20:28.00 | utahcon | (don't ask why I am running 32 on 64 I don't know) |
| 20:28.48 | utahcon | furthermore fungus no 64-bit version on your local box... why? |
| 20:29.58 | fungus | on my box? not running 64 due to problems with some third party apps. |
| 20:30.43 | fungus | Don't remember which one for sure anymore. |
| 20:31.29 | fungus | I'm thinking either chrome, oracle client, or something like that. |
| 20:34.45 | utahcon | hmm |
| 20:34.49 | utahcon | that sucks |
| 20:34.56 | utahcon | probably why xeen suggested I not do it |
| 20:34.57 | utahcon | dag |
| 20:38.45 | fungus | I'm thinking of trying out 64bit again in April for Lucid. |
| 20:44.12 | utahcon | April... I can't wait that long :D |
| 20:44.13 | justincarmony | man, I wish my design skills were a little better :P |
| 20:44.24 | utahcon | justincarmony: we all do |
| 20:44.36 | justincarmony | I do just about everything |
| 20:44.39 | justincarmony | except logo design |
| 20:44.44 | justincarmony | I struggle a lot |
| 20:44.46 | utahcon | logo design is easy |
| 20:45.06 | utahcon | you just make a box... stick the company name in it, and charge them $5000 |
| 20:45.11 | justincarmony | LOL |
| 20:45.15 | utahcon | they think because you charge so much it is good |
| 20:45.26 | utahcon | I often user Comic Sans when doing that technique |
| 20:45.28 | utahcon | they love it |
| 20:45.53 | utahcon | disclaimer: Utahcon has never, and will never actually design. He sucks at it. |
| 20:46.10 | utahcon | s/will never/will likely never/ |
| 20:47.10 | utahcon | wtf... snow... it's coming in horizontal |
| 20:47.46 | mgeary | yeah we had crazy wind last night |
| 20:47.51 | mgeary | *crazy* wind |
| 20:47.55 | mgeary | especially for winter |
| 20:48.50 | utahcon | learning to use the ?advanced? features of 1,0irrsi |
| 20:49.00 | utahcon | freak yeah |
| 20:49.32 | DexterTheDragon | this isn't the internet! |
| 20:49.33 | utahcon | 3FooBarr |
| 20:50.15 | mgeary | catfight |
| 20:50.28 | DexterTheDragon | ~dtdhit utahcon |
| 20:50.29 | ibot | ACTION stikes at utahcon with the evil rooster chop causing a very bad flesh wound! |
| 20:50.29 | utahcon | ~dtdhit mgeary |
| 20:50.30 | ibot | ACTION stikes at mgeary with the evil rooster chop knocking off an appendage! |
| 20:50.42 | utahcon | ~lart DexterTheDragon |
| 20:50.42 | ibot | pushes the wall down onto DexterTheDragon whilst whistling innocently |
| 20:50.48 | utahcon | ~rlart mgeary |
| 20:50.53 | utahcon | fail |
| 20:50.55 | utahcon | :( |
| 20:50.56 | PoeticIntensity | ~rlart |
| 20:50.57 | ibot | urinates on brasto |
| 20:50.59 | mgeary | ~mock utahcon |
| 20:51.00 | ibot | ACTION pulls utahcon's pants down and shows the world utahcon's pink spotted underwear |
| 20:51.08 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 20:51.13 | utahcon | ~timebomb mgeary |
| 20:51.19 | mgeary | ~melvinoops utahcon |
| 20:51.20 | ibot | ACTION reaches into utahcon's pants to grab the waistband of utahcon's Fruit of the Looms, but quickly withdraws it's hand, "ugh, hey everyone utahcon is going commando today!" |
| 20:51.26 | utahcon | why doesn't our bot play timebomb mindjuju ? |
| 20:51.54 | DexterTheDragon | ~roulette utahcon |
| 20:51.55 | ibot | ACTION watches utahcon pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 20:52.11 | fungus | ~roulette DexterTheDragon |
| 20:52.12 | ibot | ACTION watches DexterTheDragon pull the trigger: BANG! |
| 20:52.13 | utahcon | sure... it plays with guns but not bombs... |
| 20:52.19 | utahcon | that kind of world are we living in? |
| 21:02.04 | PoeticIntensity | Love their greatest hits, though. |
| 21:02.11 | mgeary | PSB peaked early in their career |
| 21:02.19 | wps | unfamiliar with PSB, /me cues it up on iTunes |
| 21:02.23 | wps | yuck |
| 21:03.05 | wps | ha ha |
| 21:03.23 | PoeticIntensity | heh.... |
| 21:03.35 | PoeticIntensity | "What Have I Done To Deserve This" was a great one. |
| 21:03.45 | PoeticIntensity | "Always On My Mind", too... |
| 21:04.13 | PoeticIntensity | West End Girls (not sure if that's the name or not)... Yeah... |
| 21:04.19 | mgeary | yeah, those were glory days |
| 21:04.19 | PoeticIntensity | I really liked PSB back in the day. |
| 21:07.15 | mgeary | ironically framed photo: http://www.rawstory.com/images/new/mitchmcconnell.jpg |
| 21:07.33 | wps | nice |
| 21:13.51 | mgeary | hey, in svn, how can i tell it to recursively ignore everything inside a given directory? |
| 21:18.06 | wps | mgeary: http://www.petefreitag.com/item/662.cfm |
| 21:18.30 | wps | it supports a wildcard |
| 21:18.49 | PoeticIntensity | Yup.... I'm now going through PSB : Greatest Hits... Haven't listened to this stuff in years. |
| 21:18.56 | mgeary | wps: but that doesn't work recursively |
| 21:19.02 | mgeary | or else i'm doing something wrong |
| 21:19.12 | wps | I'm pretty sure that it should |
| 21:19.56 | SunSparc | mgeary: http://bluesunhosting.com/wiki/index.php/Subversion#Ignore |
| 21:20.41 | mgeary | aha, so you do have to set a recursive flag, it appears. that's retarded |
| 21:21.04 | wps | that is lame |
| 21:21.06 | mgeary | that means any time you make a new directory inside your top-level directory to ignore, you have to re-ignore |
| 21:21.12 | mgeary | SunSparc: convince me |
| 21:21.30 | wps | but at soon as you learns git, there will be some other new hotness to move to |
| 21:21.41 | SunSparc | mgeary: Give me a couple more weeks. I am just getting into it but we are moving to it as a company. |
| 21:21.42 | wps | s/you/he/ |
| 21:22.08 | SunSparc | wps: of course, that is the curse of being on the cutting edge of technology. |
| 21:22.30 | SunSparc | cvs, svn, git, [next]... |
| 21:22.44 | wps | I'm not for or againstâ¦Â I don't use version control enough for it to be an issue |
| 21:28.30 | mgeary | bah |
| 21:28.37 | mgeary | truly, that's the only option |
| 21:28.39 | mgeary | what a pain |
| 21:31.41 | mgeary | how much better is NuSOAP than the standard PHP SOAP? |
| 21:32.36 | PoeticIntensity | When I needed to create a simple SOAP client, I just used PHP5's soapclient... |
| 21:32.39 | jsmith-away | mgeary: I would say it's worse |
| 21:32.55 | PoeticIntensity | It was quick and dirty, but....... seemed like soapclient did just fine. |
| 21:33.14 | mgeary | jsmith: any particulars? |
| 21:33.40 | jsmith | mgeary: I just find it's much easier to debug with the PHP SOAP calls, once you wrap your head around them |
| 21:53.18 | macnewbold | mgeary: FWIW, I'm with jsmith and PoeticIntensity - the PHP5 soap works great for me |
| 21:53.26 | macnewbold | well, as great as SOAP can work anyway... |
| 21:54.13 | macnewbold | the biggest issues I've had are dumb microsoft servers that have crap enabled that isn't as standard as they want you to think. But there are decent workarounds through extending the base classes yourself. |
| 21:54.24 | macnewbold | and plenty of free code to download |
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| 21:56.26 | supernovia | howdy swb |
| 22:01.05 | wps | I just received an email from someone named Soy Sauce Sam |
| 22:01.32 | jsmith | wps: The low sodium variety? The gluten-free variety? |
| 22:01.33 | supernovia | Wowsers |
| 22:01.39 | wps | not sure |
| 22:01.42 | wps | someone interested in my house |
| 22:02.51 | wps | although I'd love to join jsmith at the sushi shop for a teriyaki bowl and smother it with sam's sauce |
| 22:03.22 | wps | bleckâ¦Â time for semiannual performance reviews at work |
| 22:03.28 | wps | didn't we just do those?? |
| 22:07.28 | _psychic_ | in AF? |
| 22:08.47 | swb | supernovia: hi |
| 22:09.06 | supernovia | Yeah I like them :) Only been there a few times though |
| 22:09.17 | supernovia | it's too much food to eat by myself and my kids aren't into it |
| 22:09.27 | wps | supernovia: you find your phone? |
| 22:09.37 | supernovia | I did. It was under a seat in my car |
| 22:09.43 | supernovia | so that was good. |
| 22:09.44 | wps | that's good |
| 22:10.09 | wps | my wife complains a lot about carrying a phone as a woman |
| 22:10.21 | wps | she doesn't carry a purse and the pockets in her pants are too small for it |
| 22:10.23 | supernovia | So true. |
| 22:10.24 | _psychic_ | supernovia: pretty cheap too (but still good) |
| 22:10.47 | supernovia | exactly _psychic_ -- and it's just nicer feeling |
| 22:11.01 | _psychic_ | sushi house is just down the road... |
| 22:11.24 | supernovia | I'm not much of seafood person |
| 22:11.55 | supernovia | and most of the sushi's got fish in it |
| 22:12.03 | _psychic_ | or crab |
| 22:12.19 | supernovia | well, it's the shellfish I can't eat |
| 22:12.57 | wps | seafood is for sea creatures |
| 22:13.01 | supernovia | regular fish don't make my face go numb, but I just don't like it that much |
| 22:13.01 | wps | land food is for land creatures |
| 22:13.33 | supernovia | regular fishes don't, I guess? That sounded weird. but yeah. |
| 22:13.42 | wps | I guess bears eat trout |
| 22:13.43 | wps | hmm |
| 22:13.51 | wps | glad I'm not a bear |
| 22:14.25 | supernovia | I like trout |
| 22:16.11 | _psychic_ | people food is for people |
| 22:16.15 | _psychic_ | and sushi == people food |
| 22:16.36 | jsmith | One man's cuisine is another man's bait |
| 22:16.41 | wps | indeed |
| 22:17.21 | jsmith | And let me tell you ... some of this bait is delicious! |
| 22:17.26 | _psychic_ | hear hear |
| 22:18.14 | wps | ha ha |
| 22:26.57 | PoeticIntensity | awww yeah |
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| 22:31.14 | supernovia | Ahhhh that reminds me of the good old days |
| 22:31.49 | supernovia | (the Muad`Dib nick) |
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| 22:36.13 | herlo | mindjuju: ping |
| 22:37.09 | SunSparc | Ah yes |
| 22:37.37 | Muad`Dib | Too bad this one is registered to someone else. |
| 22:37.43 | Muad`Dib | I prefer it. |
| 22:38.29 | supernovia | heheh |
| 22:38.47 | supernovia | beandog could be Muad`Dibb |
| 22:39.21 | supernovia | but yeah that -is- too bad it's taken |
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| 22:49.18 | fungus | Muad`Dib, you could probably get the nick if you ask a FreeNode staffer. |
| 22:49.31 | fungus | It hasn't been used by the owner since September. |
| 22:51.17 | Muad`Dib | fungus: Hmmm, your idea is tempting... |
| 22:51.33 | mgeary | anyone here use trac? |
| 22:52.19 | Muad`Dib | But I think we have had this conversation before. |
| 22:52.25 | mgeary | Muad`Dib: do you know how to check out the files in a trac project from svn? |
| 22:53.08 | mgeary | i tried what seemed the most logical, but got this: "svn: The OPTIONS response did not include the requested activity-collection-set; this often means that the URL is not WebDAV-enabled" |
| 22:53.11 | Muad`Dib | Now you are taxing my memory. Should be the same as with any svn repo. You just need the repo address. |
| 22:53.50 | Muad`Dib | Ah, well, that could be. Perhaps that repo can only be accessed via ssh. |
| 22:54.13 | mgeary | maybe so. how does one formulate that? i've only ever used svn with http |
| 22:54.17 | Muad`Dib | webdav is only one connection method for svn |
| 22:54.59 | Muad`Dib | svn+ssh:// |
| 22:55.09 | Muad`Dib | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.0/ch06s03.html |
| 22:55.33 | mgeary | yeah, but where do you put the user? |
| 22:55.56 | mgeary | after the //, it seems |
| 22:56.01 | Muad`Dib | users file |
| 22:56.15 | Muad`Dib | unless you can do the protocol://user@address method... |
| 22:56.22 | mgeary | yeah |
| 22:56.24 | mgeary | that worked |
| 22:56.29 | Muad`Dib | cool |
| 22:56.33 | mgeary | though my user is "locked out", apparently |
| 22:56.54 | Muad`Dib | Nice |
| 23:11.33 | romanovic | our trac is so convoluted though |
| 23:18.21 | mgeary | beware of kangaroo mice extending invitations |
| 23:18.33 | Muad`Dib | lol |
| 23:22.28 | thebigdog | mgeary: i use trac |
| 23:22.31 | thebigdog | you having some issues |
| 23:22.41 | mgeary | no |
| 23:22.51 | mgeary | i just was trying to figure out how to check code out of a trac project |
| 23:23.00 | thebigdog | you dont |
| 23:23.02 | mgeary | i think i found the way, but my user doesn't appear to have that permission |
| 23:23.04 | thebigdog | it is only for browsing |
| 23:23.09 | mgeary | hrm |
| 23:23.12 | mgeary | okay... |
| 23:23.21 | thebigdog | you have to access it via the svn client |
| 23:23.27 | mgeary | well yeah |
| 23:23.34 | mgeary | but via the trac url, yes? |
| 23:23.45 | thebigdog | nope |
| 23:24.02 | mgeary | so i need the url to be given to me? it has no relationship to the url for browsing in trac? |
| 23:24.08 | thebigdog | trac accesses it locally |
| 23:24.20 | thebigdog | mgeary: that is correct |
| 23:24.24 | mgeary | k, thanks |
| 23:24.36 | thebigdog | trac is however they set it up via apache or which web server |
| 23:24.43 | thebigdog | trac access svn locally |
| 23:24.49 | thebigdog | it requires it like that by default |
| 23:25.19 | thebigdog | for example i have mine setup with apache |
| 23:25.32 | thebigdog | but it does not use apache it just know where on the filesystem to find it |
| 23:25.38 | thebigdog | so it just runs the commands locally |
| 23:25.48 | mgeary | ok |
| 23:26.56 | thebigdog | i actually really like trac |
| 23:27.03 | thebigdog | it is a pretty decent project |
| 23:38.29 | wps | holy cow |
| 23:38.33 | wps | someone left a comment on uphpu.org |
| 23:38.38 | wps | it's not dead! |
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