| 00:02.02 | mgeary | CentOS > RHEL |
| 00:04.23 | herlo | mgeary: for the most part, sure. But it really depends on the software you are using... |
| 00:04.46 | herlo | certain applications will not give you support if you aren't running RHEL... |
| 00:09.41 | influx | woohoo |
| 00:13.05 | influx | http://www.hellofount.com/temp/Resume-Martin_Moreno-18_01_2010.pdf |
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| 00:41.37 | thinbegin | oi vey! does anyone know of a way to trck down the insecure elements of a web page that is being served over https, but getting one of those "there are insecure elements on this page..." warnings? |
| 00:42.15 | thinbegin | seems like there should be a nifty firefox plugin for that :) |
| 00:42.48 | fungus | Ctrl-Shift-I in Chrome |
| 00:45.19 | thinbegin | fungus: chrome isn't even showing hte warning message |
| 00:48.28 | SunSparc | Night all. |
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| 00:50.51 | SunSparc | Oh, thinbegin, do a search in the rendered source (including js files) for "http:". Which will be a hard coded reference to an insecure element. Links do not count. Only elements that are being included, like images, etc. |
| 00:50.54 | SunSparc | hth |
| 00:52.25 | fungus | thinbegin, in Chrome, Ctrl-Shift-I (Resouces) it shows the absolute URL of every resource, check for non https |
| 00:52.56 | fungus | in Firefox, you can look at Page Info (Media) it is not ultimately complete, but probably has your problem resource. |
| 00:54.00 | thinbegin | sunsparc: nopers. i tried that, with no luck [was my first thought too] :) |
| 00:54.37 | thinbegin | fungus: in chrome, if i press ctrl+shit+i, i get no love of any sort... chrome just sits there silent and polite :) |
| 00:55.02 | fungus | Then access the Developer tools from the menus |
| 00:55.20 | thinbegin | ooops ;) i menat: ctrl+shiFt+i ;) |
| 00:55.36 | fungus | lol, i didn't even catch that... very funny |
| 00:55.50 | fungus | Freudian slip? |
| 00:56.04 | thinbegin | developer tools gives me 3 options, none of 'em being what you said :/ |
| 00:56.18 | thinbegin | maybe my chrome build is old? |
| 00:56.43 | fungus | I doubt it. did it open the developer tools window? |
| 00:57.02 | thinbegin | nope |
| 00:57.24 | thinbegin | ok, got it open |
| 00:57.26 | thinbegin | duh |
| 00:57.29 | fungus | heh |
| 00:57.35 | thinbegin | had to select avascript or sumsuch |
| 00:57.45 | thinbegin | not exactly intuitive :) |
| 00:59.20 | fungus | ever since I switched to chrome I almost never look back. Luvin' every minute of it |
| 00:59.57 | thinbegin | it is nice, but a bit of a memory hog O_o |
| 01:00.10 | thinbegin | pretent i didn't say that! [NO FLAME WAR INTENDED}!!! |
| 01:00.55 | fungus | ? really? I find it's much nicer on memory than Firefox's balloning memory footprint overtime issues. |
| 01:00.56 | thinbegin | fungus: so, i have the resources open, but they all show https. would you mind pulling up the page in question and telling me otherwise? |
| 01:01.04 | fungus | sure |
| 01:01.31 | thinbegin | what's nice about chrome's memory, is that it is separate processes, so you can kill 'em one at a time... |
| 01:01.54 | fungus | especially when flash goes awry. I can kill just flash. I love that part. |
| 01:02.02 | thinbegin | but if you tally up all the processes that chrome is using, then the total > firefox's single chunk |
| 01:02.24 | thinbegin | https://www.woogiworld.com/login/ |
| 01:02.27 | fungus | maybe not at first, but firefox balloons very large after a while. |
| 01:02.34 | thinbegin | that's the page throwing me the warning |
| 01:03.16 | DexterTheDragon | I only got a bad cert warning |
| 01:03.16 | fungus | thinbegin, tried in both firefox and chrome, no resources that are not secured. |
| 01:03.23 | thinbegin | can you see a non-ssl resource? |
| 01:03.29 | thinbegin | wtf then :) |
| 01:03.32 | fungus | I got a good cert. |
| 01:03.43 | fungus | expires in june |
| 01:04.01 | thinbegin | maybe it's specifically the way i.e. is handling some of the resourceds? [the warning was noticed in i.e.] |
| 01:04.09 | thinbegin | stoopid ie |
| 01:04.30 | thinbegin | is there an equivalent tool for i.e. [heheh, cough, choke, laugh, whateva] |
| 01:04.58 | fungus | how about my favorite tool... Wireshark. |
| 01:05.02 | fungus | only half kidding. |
| 01:05.40 | DexterTheDragon | whats weird is loading the page gives me a cert that expired yesterday. but once its loaded and I look at the cert it shows it as expiring in june |
| 01:06.37 | thinbegin | @dexter - are you talking about the woogiworld cert [or something else]? |
| 01:06.56 | thinbegin | @fungus: installing the "IEDevToolBarSetup.msi" - heh |
| 01:07.04 | thinbegin | stoopid windows |
| 01:07.12 | DexterTheDragon | thinbegin: yeah |
| 01:07.33 | thinbegin | really? cert expiration yesterday? |
| 01:07.37 | thinbegin | that IS weird |
| 01:08.59 | DexterTheDragon | actually it was for this https://cetrk.com/pages/scripts/0007/1782.js |
| 01:09.20 | DexterTheDragon | so your cert is ok. theirs isn't |
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| 01:10.55 | fungus | "//Over monthly limit. Consider upgrading your plan - Crazy Egg |
| 01:11.45 | fungus | perhaps that expired cert is your problem thinbegin |
| 01:14.53 | fungus | wow, it's getting late. cya |
| 01:18.16 | thinbegin | thnx! |
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| 03:04.01 | mindjuju | 01anybody mathwise around? |
| 03:04.36 | _psychic_ | don't ask to ask, just ask ;) |
| 03:05.35 | mindjuju | A = P(1+nr), i need to solve for r01 |
| 03:05.47 | mindjuju | i've been hammering on this for like 20 minutes but can't seem to get it |
| 03:05.51 | mindjuju | looking for an idea |
| 03:07.35 | _psychic_ | r = (a/p - 1)/n |
| 03:08.07 | mindjuju | curiously, that's exactly what I got, but that's not a listed answer |
| 03:08.22 | mindjuju | here are available answers, though truth told, i'd like to understand why |
| 03:09.18 | mindjuju | r = A-P/Pn or r = Pn/a-p or r = A/n or r = P-A / Pn |
| 03:10.55 | _psychic_ | I'm sure what I have is equivalent to one of those |
| 03:10.58 | _psychic_ | I don't have paper handy |
| 03:11.05 | _psychic_ | but if you divide in the n |
| 03:11.10 | _psychic_ | you're close, I bet |
| 03:27.30 | eggyknap | mindjuju: r = (a-P)/Pn |
| 03:27.34 | blendmaster1024 | anyone know smcquay's email address? |
| 03:27.42 | eggyknap | or rather (A-P)/Pn |
| 03:34.00 | mindjuju | ~eggyknap++ |
| 03:34.08 | mindjuju | ~_psychic_++ |
| 03:34.14 | wps | ever heard of Fordlândia? |
| 03:34.16 | wps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fordlândia |
| 03:34.29 | herlo | wps: yeah, there was a thing on npr the other day about it |
| 03:34.43 | wps | ahâ¦Â my brother just tweeted about it |
| 03:34.51 | herlo | wps: yeah, in Brazil |
| 03:34.52 | herlo | iirc |
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| 03:45.19 | supernovia | are you taking math again this semester mindjuju? |
| 03:45.32 | supernovia | (well, not taking it AGAIN but you know, taking another math class) |
| 03:46.27 | mindjuju | yup |
| 03:46.36 | mindjuju | more math |
| 03:46.48 | supernovia | good times |
| 03:47.14 | supernovia | I probably SHOULD take a math class or three |
| 03:47.27 | eggyknap | Listening to a stanford video lecture series on fourier transforms has occasionally been surprisingly refreshing. |
| 03:47.51 | supernovia | math is my weakest subject :( |
| 03:47.55 | mindjuju | math and I will have to find an agreement before I'd be inclined to take a math class |
| 03:50.12 | mindjuju | :) |
| 03:50.48 | supernovia | my little brother swears that once I take calculus, everything else will work for me |
| 03:50.59 | supernovia | and that it will make me so happy |
| 03:51.17 | eggyknap | Calculus is awesome. So is linear algebra, for that matter. |
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| 04:22.09 | supernovia | thanks - you too. Good night all! |
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| 04:23.02 | DexterTheDragon | ah crap. exercise. I knew there was something I forgot |
| 04:23.12 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: what? |
| 04:23.36 | DexterTheDragon | forgot to exercise today |
| 04:24.07 | beandog | hmm |
| 04:24.18 | beandog | I can still remember the last time I exercised |
| 04:24.21 | beandog | that's gotta count for something |
| 04:28.46 | mindjuju | k, twitter account now branded with smoking hawt avatar |
| 04:29.20 | DexterTheDragon | now to post stuff |
| 04:29.35 | mindjuju | :) |
| 04:30.38 | influx | @mindjuju ? |
| 04:31.06 | influx | Hah. Nice avatar. |
| 04:32.15 | mindjuju | k, math all done, now I have to read my CS book, night gentlemen |
| 04:32.33 | beandog | nn |
| 04:32.43 | influx | ciao |
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| 05:00.44 | wTrevyn | Hi, anyone want to read something and give me feedback? |
| 05:01.18 | wTrevyn | its an attempt to sell clients on an agile process rather than the typical process. |
| 05:05.05 | beandog | argh. |
| 05:05.14 | beandog | why did I think linode would be a good idea for heavy disk i/o |
| 05:09.22 | herlo | well.... yeah |
| 05:10.32 | beandog | okay, its not *that* heavy |
| 05:10.33 | beandog | but still |
| 05:10.34 | herlo | :P |
| 05:10.36 | beandog | :) |
| 05:10.39 | beandog | hows it going herlo |
| 05:10.49 | herlo | beandog: well, just kicking it here at home |
| 05:10.55 | beandog | herlo: right on |
| 05:11.01 | herlo | about to retire for the evening soon |
| 05:11.01 | beandog | herlo: Im trying to find a good place for my site |
| 05:11.15 | beandog | herlo: I wish I knew someone who would let me plug my box into their fast network. |
| 05:12.12 | DexterTheDragon | beandog: did you look into that prgmr.com at all? |
| 05:12.25 | beandog | DexterTheDragon: yah, but VPS's generally don't work out |
| 05:12.36 | herlo | beandog: what do you need physical hardware fore? |
| 05:12.37 | beandog | This site pounds on the DB and the disk a bit |
| 05:12.41 | herlo | s/ore/or/ |
| 05:12.45 | beandog | every hour, in fact |
| 05:13.12 | herlo | beandog: don't do that :) |
| 05:13.16 | beandog | herlo: virtual / shared stuff just isn't cutting it |
| 05:13.19 | beandog | herlo: yah, no choice. |
| 05:13.37 | herlo | hrmmm |
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| 05:14.04 | beandog | even if I moved the disk stuff offsite, I *still* have some intensive postgres queries |
| 05:15.06 | beandog | The Linode can't even run my hourly cron job. *sigh* |
| 05:15.12 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 05:15.13 | ibot | chops justincarmony in half with a free AOL CD |
| 05:16.07 | herlo | beandog: well, colo with x-helion maybe? http://x-helion.com/colocation.html |
| 05:17.04 | beandog | "Call today for a free estimate" == spendy |
| 05:17.05 | beandog | :T |
| 05:17.08 | beandog | herlo: yah |
| 05:17.10 | justincarmony | ~lart mgeary |
| 05:17.10 | ibot | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags mgeary into court suing for $200 million |
| 05:17.27 | mgeary | heh. that'd be a fast lawsuit |
| 05:17.37 | herlo | beandog: actually |
| 05:17.38 | beandog | mgeary has tons of moolahs |
| 05:17.48 | beandog | I saw him eating at In N Out |
| 05:17.52 | mgeary | psh |
| 05:17.55 | mgeary | you never did |
| 05:18.03 | beandog | mgeary: I'll see you in court! |
| 05:18.05 | herlo | beandog: Backcountry found them to be the lowest cost in the state for its dr |
| 05:18.19 | beandog | herlo: oh yah? about how much? if I can ask |
| 05:18.20 | mgeary | i've only eaten at an In N Out once, about 19 years ago, in California |
| 05:18.31 | mgeary | back when beandog was 3 years old |
| 05:19.00 | beandog | actually I woulda been |
| 05:19.02 | beandog | well, lets not go there. |
| 05:19.13 | beandog | a teenager :) |
| 05:19.19 | mgeary | a punk |
| 05:19.25 | mgeary | some things never change |
| 05:19.31 | mgeary | ;) |
| 05:19.37 | beandog | they just improve with age :D |
| 05:19.39 | herlo | beandog: I didn't actually do the quote myself, but my boss got about 10 different quotes around town. They were like 1/2 of XM iirc |
| 05:20.13 | mgeary | we colo at FiberNet, fwiw |
| 05:21.06 | herlo | we used to use ViaWest, but talk about $$ |
| 05:21.14 | justincarmony | I colo at AOL |
| 05:21.18 | justincarmony | .......... |
| 05:21.19 | herlo | heh |
| 05:21.20 | justincarmony | jk :P |
| 05:21.36 | beandog | herlo: hmm |
| 05:21.43 | beandog | herlo: Im on a shoestring budget |
| 05:23.15 | mgeary | beandog: is this a personal project? |
| 05:23.21 | beandog | mgeary: yah |
| 05:23.25 | beandog | mgeary: znurt.org |
| 05:23.36 | mgeary | was gonna guess that |
| 05:23.43 | beandog | My old amd64 at home works great |
| 05:23.48 | mgeary | what's so DB-intensive about it? |
| 05:23.56 | beandog | but the traffic absolutely destroyed my comcast connection. |
| 05:24.14 | mgeary | what kind of traffic do you get? |
| 05:24.17 | beandog | mgeary: there's some pretty funky queries |
| 05:24.27 | mgeary | explored running ads to offset your bandwidth costs? |
| 05:24.46 | beandog | mgeary: dunno, haven't setup webstats yet, but I was getting something like 8k hits/day when I first launched it, I think |
| 05:24.50 | beandog | or it was 24k |
| 05:24.51 | beandog | I dont remember. |
| 05:24.58 | beandog | which doesnt seem like a lot. |
| 05:24.59 | mgeary | that's gotta be worth something to someone |
| 05:25.09 | mgeary | 24k hits a day is a lot, imnsio |
| 05:25.16 | mgeary | (not-so-informed-opinion) |
| 05:25.24 | beandog | I think it was 24k |
| 05:25.36 | beandog | I dont remember. |
| 05:25.38 | beandog | anyway. |
| 05:25.56 | beandog | mgeary: the database isn't actually *that* intensive |
| 05:26.05 | beandog | well, I dunno |
| 05:26.06 | beandog | maybe it is. |
| 05:29.22 | beandog | I should probably get some metrics going here. |
| 05:29.33 | beandog | Hmm |
| 05:29.38 | beandog | 158k hits in about ... uh |
| 05:29.55 | beandog | since the 8th |
| 05:53.56 | justincarmony | I'd say when you start hitting 1-2 Million a month is decent :) |
| 05:55.58 | mgeary | justincarmony: i would think a site could earn some cash in ad revenue at far below that threshold |
| 05:56.18 | mgeary | beandog: is that visits, page requests, or apache requests? |
| 05:56.34 | justincarmony | you're right, you could :P |
| 05:56.51 | beandog | mgeary: page requests |
| 05:57.00 | beandog | mgeary: wait, no, 3rd one |
| 05:57.05 | beandog | I think. |
| 05:57.46 | mgeary | so the highest possible number |
| 05:57.52 | beandog | yah |
| 05:58.24 | mgeary | i'd think the monetizable number would be quite a bit lower. In many contexts you get paid per thousand impressions, which would correspond to page requests |
| 05:58.55 | mgeary | so, filter your log by requests for just the html/php page, and then you might have something interesting |
| 05:59.09 | mgeary | disclaimer: i've never earned a penny from ads... yet. |
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| 06:01.35 | beandog | 9.5k of those are people hitting the RSS/Atom feed |
| 06:01.37 | beandog | those would be page specific, I imagine. |
| 06:01.41 | beandog | since its' just one static file |
| 06:03.49 | mgeary | yeah |
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| 15:46.19 | nathandelane | I'm trying to wrap my head around sessions. On a previous project, in every module I wanted to access the current session I placed session_start(). Is this how it must be done? |
| 15:46.34 | beandog | yes |
| 15:46.47 | nathandelane | Alright. Thanks |
| 15:55.56 | macnewbold | ~apb beandog |
| 15:55.57 | ibot | ACTION calls Dog the Bounty Hunter to stake out beandog |
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| 17:06.26 | justincarmony | morning |
| 17:07.03 | justincarmony | an ogden/layton peeps want to do lunch today? :P |
| 17:07.04 | justincarmony | any* |
| 17:15.03 | SunSparc | mindjuju: ping |
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| 17:29.09 | DexterTheDragon | utahcon: ping |
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| 17:40.47 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon: yo |
| 17:41.11 | DexterTheDragon | utahcon: gonna be at the meeting thurs? |
| 17:41.24 | utahcon | good question. let me check with the wifey |
| 17:44.58 | stderr | anyone seen any user group promo codes for MWRC yet? |
| 17:45.30 | utahcon | MWRC? |
| 17:45.53 | stderr | MountainWest Ruby Conference |
| 17:47.15 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon: Looks like a yes. |
| 17:47.37 | utahcon | stderr: http://mtnwestrubyconf.org/2010/ |
| 17:47.54 | utahcon | oh you want codes... my bad |
| 17:52.10 | DexterTheDragon | utahcon: cool |
| 18:03.39 | fungus | stderr, answered in #urug |
| 18:03.41 | fungus | <blowmage> whiteinge: no discounts |
| 18:03.41 | fungus | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:03.41 | fungus | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.24 | utahcon | $100 is steep for by the people :D |
| 18:05.23 | SunSparc | ~grammarcheck utahcon |
| 18:05.38 | utahcon | $100 is steep for "by the people" :D |
| 18:05.47 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:06.34 | SunSparc | Perhaps the $100 is for the pizza and the grand prize raffle. |
| 18:10.48 | justincarmony | The $100 is to help cover the costs of running Ruby on their servers. :P (just kidding, want to ensure that I don't get burned alive for saying it :P) |
| 18:11.04 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:11.20 | fungus | ~burninate justincarmony |
| 18:11.21 | ibot | ACTION burninates justincarmony and thrashes him soundly with Trogdor's meat arm. |
| 18:11.43 | utahcon | wait |
| 18:12.01 | utahcon | we just punished a PHP lover for hating on Ruby in the _PHP_ channel? |
| 18:12.06 | utahcon | I can't be part of this |
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| 18:12.24 | utahcon | oh who am I kidding... |
| 18:14.53 | fungus | heh, i actually think the number of php lovers in this chan are fewer than half of the total of all users |
| 18:15.05 | utahcon | fungus: you are prob right |
| 18:15.17 | utahcon | myself I am a PHP user... not so much a lover any more |
| 18:15.22 | utahcon | not since PHP cheated on me |
| 18:15.32 | fungus | and those that are php lovers, just haven't used anything else yet... :) |
| 18:15.36 | fungus | lol |
| 18:15.52 | DexterTheDragon | its more like a rehab channel |
| 18:16.05 | utahcon | and the meetings? |
| 18:16.15 | fungus | excuse for applebees |
| 18:16.20 | utahcon | lol |
| 18:17.05 | SunSparc | ~lart Windows |
| 18:17.05 | ibot | stabs Windows |
| 18:18.07 | macnewbold | ~lart SunSparc |
| 18:18.07 | ibot | holds SunSparc to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails |
| 18:18.20 | macnewbold | that'll teach him not to mention DOS... |
| 18:18.24 | SunSparc | ~mgeary macnewbold |
| 18:18.25 | ibot | go do something useful |
| 18:18.28 | SunSparc | lol |
| 18:18.29 | macnewbold | now i'll need an extra visit to the therapist this week |
| 18:19.05 | SunSparc | ~macnewbold mgeary |
| 18:19.06 | ibot | ACTION wallops mgeary with a flip-flop |
| 18:19.09 | utahcon | I am fairly certain I just got an email about TPS reports |
| 18:19.29 | fungus | lol |
| 18:19.31 | fungus | I did too |
| 18:19.41 | SunSparc | utahcon: Do you still have your stapler? |
| 18:21.01 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 18:21.02 | ibot | whips out his power stapler and staples SunSparc's foot to the floor |
| 18:21.22 | fungus | nope, ibot has it |
| 18:21.35 | SunSparc | Ouch! |
| 18:22.10 | justincarmony | utahcon: how did PHP cheat on you? :P |
| 18:23.13 | mgeary | justincarmony: namespaces. need i say more? |
| 18:24.13 | DexterTheDragon | mgeary: goto? |
| 18:24.26 | mgeary | hah |
| 18:24.30 | SunSparc | Oh yeah. The best function evar. |
| 18:33.40 | utahcon | SunSparc: My if they move my desk one more time... I'm gonna burn down the building |
| 18:33.48 | utahcon | justincarmony: PHP allowed windows installs :D |
| 18:34.01 | utahcon | justincarmony: IDK, was just saying it... jeez! |
| 18:34.01 | SunSparc | :) |
| 18:40.31 | justincarmony | heh |
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| 19:57.26 | utahcon | If there is one task I can never get enough of, it is mapping out PDFs for dynamic printing. </sarcasm> |
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| 20:37.04 | mgeary | utahcon: ...? |
| 20:39.55 | utahcon | mgeary: |
| 20:40.18 | mgeary | just trying to clear up what "mapping out PDFs for dynamic printing" means |
| 20:40.42 | stderr | I presume he means "creating a PDF on the fly with dynamic data" |
| 20:40.45 | mgeary | do you mean algorithmically defining PDFs to be generated by code? |
| 20:40.49 | mgeary | yeah |
| 20:40.58 | utahcon | mgeary: yes and no |
| 20:41.31 | utahcon | I wrote some nice wrappers to the PDF hanlders in FPDI (etc) and set them up to use XML files to dictate the printing options |
| 20:41.35 | utahcon | of which there are many |
| 20:41.37 | Lone_Wanderer | I thought this was a cruel, cruel lie, but putting a little bit of cayenne pepper in hot chocolate really is delicious. |
| 20:41.51 | Lone_Wanderer | (Apropos of nothing.) |
| 20:42.04 | utahcon | anyways everytime my document team puts their heads together I have to take the newly generated PDF and map out where my content gets written on top of the PDF |
| 20:42.09 | utahcon | it is quite time consuming. |
| 20:42.53 | utahcon | Lone_Wanderer: That is because our simple human brains love the trick played on the tongue when it meets sweet and hot at the same time. |
| 20:43.12 | Lone_Wanderer | You can't even really taste it. |
| 20:43.25 | utahcon | Put more in. |
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| 20:43.32 | utahcon | hey SunSparc |
| 20:43.34 | utahcon | oops |
| 20:43.36 | Lone_Wanderer | But yes, I'm sure it's the little bit of zap that makes it good. |
| 20:43.36 | utahcon | hey supernovia |
| 20:43.41 | Lone_Wanderer | hello super |
| 20:43.49 | supernovia | Hey guys! How's it going? |
| 20:44.12 | Lone_Wanderer | I am enjoying delicious hot chocolate. How are you? |
| 20:44.16 | utahcon | if you ask me again around 4 I will be more inclined to say something happy |
| 20:44.25 | supernovia | Mm, a little bit of zap. Makes me think of buffalo wings! |
| 20:44.35 | supernovia | hehe I hear ya utahcon |
| 20:45.03 | supernovia | although 4 is more of my 'hurry up and get your homework done' loop time |
| 20:45.29 | supernovia | Mmm, hot chocolate is awesome, but my kids pointed out to me that I don't look like I used to |
| 20:45.39 | supernovia | but I am enjoying a fabulous apple! |
| 20:46.08 | supernovia | sorry, that wasn't clear. That facebook throwback thing? They didn't even recognize me. :-o |
| 20:46.49 | supernovia | in my old picture - nevermind, I'm just not clear at all today. But yeah I am going to give weightloss another honest go |
| 20:47.43 | utahcon | supernovia: I am on the same band wagon... but the devil lives on my counter now... in the form of a deep fryer. |
| 20:47.49 | supernovia | Oh no! |
| 20:47.51 | utahcon | I love fried foods |
| 20:47.55 | utahcon | <3 |
| 20:47.58 | justincarmony | lol |
| 20:48.10 | justincarmony | I'm just proud I've cut out my coke so far :P |
| 20:48.27 | utahcon | I have almost eliminated calories from my soda intake :D |
| 20:48.28 | supernovia | I totally love fried foods too. |
| 20:49.00 | utahcon | supernovia: fried is the bomb! |
| 20:49.24 | supernovia | but .. *sigh* .. while I realize looking like I'm 18 again is not realistic, dropping the 25 I've put on since then would probably work wonders for me |
| 20:49.49 | utahcon | lol |
| 20:50.00 | utahcon | I have gained 110+ lbs since 18 |
| 20:50.23 | utahcon | and with my fryer I don't expect to be $myWeightNew - 110lbs anytime soon |
| 20:50.31 | supernovia | heheh |
| 20:50.44 | utahcon | errr. New = Now... stupid brain |
| 20:51.43 | supernovia | I have been trying to lose weight for years, but I think now I might actually be able to pull it off. We'll see :) |
| 20:51.51 | supernovia | swb is inspiring me :-) |
| 20:52.00 | utahcon | well supernovia I will cheer you on! |
| 20:52.05 | supernovia | Awesome! |
| 20:52.24 | supernovia | hehehe |
| 20:52.30 | fungus | I will too, while eating ice cream and pie. |
| 20:52.46 | utahcon | fungus: If you ever crack the 100lbs mark I will be impressed. |
| 20:52.49 | swb | yay!!! (to supernovia) |
| 20:52.55 | supernovia | I have got to say though, I am still going to allow myself to eat buffalo wings |
| 20:53.05 | utahcon | buffalo wings are good for you |
| 20:53.13 | utahcon | especially from Applebees on Thursday night :D |
| 20:53.13 | supernovia | Yeah they are! :-D |
| 20:53.18 | supernovia | Exactly. hehe |
| 20:53.30 | fungus | coke run, brb |
| 20:53.34 | fungus | heh, wrong chan. |
| 20:53.44 | utahcon | fungus: was that a coke fail? |
| 20:53.47 | supernovia | hehe |
| 20:55.04 | stderr | you guys have a drug problem. |
| 20:59.53 | supernovia | oh man, that was the best apple ever... |
| 21:00.09 | utahcon | supernovia: it was fried? |
| 21:00.29 | supernovia | No, but I'm seriously considering putting the other with crackers and icecream... |
| 21:00.34 | utahcon | lol |
| 21:00.42 | supernovia | My mom brought it over yesterday and I think it must be a honeycrisp |
| 21:00.46 | Lone_Wanderer | supernovia: try CrossFit |
| 21:00.56 | supernovia | CrossFit? |
| 21:00.59 | Lone_Wanderer | yes |
| 21:01.09 | Lone_Wanderer | Where in SLC do you live again? |
| 21:01.28 | supernovia | (btw utahcon, ritz crackers make a great piecrust sub) |
| 21:01.33 | supernovia | I'm in Highland, actually |
| 21:02.09 | Lone_Wanderer | I have no idea where that is. One sec while I google map. |
| 21:02.22 | supernovia | Oh, sorry. By American Fork - utah county |
| 21:02.28 | Lone_Wanderer | ah I see |
| 21:02.58 | supernovia | and I go to UVU |
| 21:03.11 | supernovia | so usually if I'm venturing out I'm headed toward Orem |
| 21:03.28 | Lone_Wanderer | http://www.vikingcrossfit.com/ - this is probably the closest one to you |
| 21:04.45 | Lone_Wanderer | Regarding the question "Is CrossFit hard" - http://www.motorcitycrossfit.com/?p=1812 |
| 21:06.16 | Lone_Wanderer | I hate websites that don't change the URL in your address bar when you click on a link. |
| 21:06.23 | Lone_Wanderer | 1799 North State Street, Orem, Utah |
| 21:06.52 | supernovia | Ah, thanks |
| 21:07.12 | supernovia | Mmm, would put a dampener on my slick little bus schedule |
| 21:07.22 | supernovia | but it's .. weight lifting? |
| 21:08.29 | supernovia | yeah framed redirects = not the bomb |
| 21:08.45 | Lone_Wanderer | weight lifting is part of it, yes |
| 21:08.46 | Lone_Wanderer | why? |
| 21:08.59 | supernovia | framed redirects? |
| 21:09.30 | supernovia | was the why for that or for the weight lifting? |
| 21:09.38 | Lone_Wanderer | for the weight lifting |
| 21:09.51 | supernovia | oh just wondering if it's something I could manage here |
| 21:10.02 | supernovia | my landlord has a ton of equipment in her garage and doesn't mind if I use it |
| 21:10.07 | Lone_Wanderer | ahh |
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| 21:10.13 | supernovia | but I guess I'd need a spotter at least. |
| 21:10.27 | Lone_Wanderer | you'd need to learn how to do the movement correctly |
| 21:10.31 | Lone_Wanderer | movements* |
| 21:10.36 | supernovia | plus after my awesome month-o-dead-arm I'm trying to be really careful |
| 21:11.30 | Lone_Wanderer | what happened to your arm? |
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| 21:12.13 | supernovia | Long story |
| 21:12.35 | supernovia | I could msg you if you want but I think everyone here's heard it |
| 21:12.48 | supernovia | anyway it's way better now |
| 21:13.35 | Lone_Wanderer | if you've got an old injury, then doing things properly is even more important |
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| 21:15.05 | SunSparc | ~apb mindjuju |
| 21:15.06 | ibot | ACTION summons Leland to stake out mindjuju |
| 21:35.27 | supernovia | goodness. Somehow I misread that and was thinking mindjuju was summoned for steak |
| 21:36.47 | supernovia | that's what thursday is for |
| 21:37.13 | SunSparc | Mmmmm... steak |
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| 21:37.46 | supernovia | Mmmhmm |
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| 21:39.59 | romanovic | mgeary: ping |
| 21:49.18 | Lone_Wanderer | hmmm |
| 21:49.30 | Lone_Wanderer | I need a mini-fridge down here. |
| 21:49.49 | Lone_Wanderer | With bawlz and root beer (or maybe just root beer flavored bawls) and an automatic tea maker. |
| 21:50.08 | Lone_Wanderer | On second thought a caffeine IV might do the trick. stderr, do you have access to any IV equipment these days? |
| 21:50.12 | SunSparc | ibot, give Lone_Wanderer a mini-fridge full of root beer |
| 21:50.14 | ibot | ACTION gives a mini-fridge full of root beer to Lone_Wanderer |
| 21:50.47 | Lone_Wanderer | I can get a sterile solution of caffeine. |
| 21:51.17 | Lone_Wanderer | oh man |
| 21:51.24 | Lone_Wanderer | you're 31 and you haven't even lived yet |
| 21:51.27 | supernovia | ah, google to the rescue |
| 21:51.32 | Lone_Wanderer | my mistake, bawls |
| 21:51.33 | Lone_Wanderer | http://www.bawls.com/ |
| 21:52.21 | romanovic | haha |
| 21:52.50 | supernovia | Ah, I've had this: http://www.guaranaantarctica.com.br/default.aspx - similar? |
| 21:53.32 | Lone_Wanderer | Possibly. |
| 21:53.51 | supernovia | One of these days I'll get a life ;-) |
| 21:54.05 | supernovia | hehe. For the moment though I gotta go get those kids :) brb |
| 21:54.09 | Lone_Wanderer | One day when I was checking out at the grocery store the guy at the counter had obviously been to south america on his mission because he was all "Guarana! That's good stuff!" |
| 21:54.21 | Lone_Wanderer | (Pronouncing it with a Portugese accent) |
| 21:54.28 | romanovic | they wont let us have minifridges at work :( |
| 21:54.36 | stderr | Lone_Wanderer: my first aid kit at home has some saline iv bags |
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| 21:54.51 | Lone_Wanderer | and I was like "You know that stuff is just highly concentrated caffeine, right?" |
| 21:54.59 | Lone_Wanderer | He was mortified. |
| 21:55.13 | Lone_Wanderer | "I don't drink caffeine! I go to BYU!" "Okay, fine. But look up guarana on wikipedia when you get home." |
| 21:55.34 | stderr | how can someone not know that guarana contains caffeine |
| 21:55.57 | Lone_Wanderer | Go on a mission to Brazil? |
| 21:56.33 | Lone_Wanderer | The locals aren't going to tell you, just like in Italy they're not going to say "Want some coffee? It's LOADED with caffeine!" |
| 21:56.51 | stderr | I mean, how do you drink it and not know it has caffeine in it |
| 21:57.06 | Lone_Wanderer | I think he thought it was some kind of non-caffeine stimulant. |
| 21:57.15 | Lone_Wanderer | Which, according to BYU logic, makes it totally okay. |
| 21:57.31 | stderr | mmm exploitation of religious loopholes |
| 21:57.34 | Lone_Wanderer | Just like ecstasy used to be totally fine because it wasn't alcohol or tobacco and it wasn't illegal. |
| 21:57.56 | Lone_Wanderer | so, I've always wanted to try a caffeine IV, just because people always joke about it |
| 21:58.00 | Lone_Wanderer | but I'm worried that it might burn |
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| 21:58.31 | SunSparc | That's all you are worried about? lol |
| 21:59.08 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah, I've checked everything else and you can inject it without complications |
| 21:59.18 | Lone_Wanderer | like, it doesn't get changed chemically in the digestive process or anything |
| 21:59.26 | SunSparc | Have you checked into dosage? |
| 21:59.39 | stderr | they actually will prescribe caffeine IVs for some things |
| 21:59.48 | stderr | (usually caffeine withdrawal after a long surgery) |
| 22:00.27 | stderr | but, hey, if you want me to stick you with some caffeine powder in saline, I'm down |
| 22:00.47 | SunSparc | lol |
| 22:01.04 | stderr | don't expect me to try it, I can't stand caffeine |
| 22:02.02 | SunSparc | Caffeine makes me sleepy. |
| 22:03.04 | justincarmony | lol, thats funny about the BYU student & guarana :P |
| 22:03.56 | Lone_Wanderer | holy crap |
| 22:04.11 | Lone_Wanderer | I just barley touched a piece on our water heater |
| 22:04.15 | Lone_Wanderer | and it cut me good |
| 22:04.40 | justincarmony | ouch! |
| 22:05.04 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah, not sure why it has to be so sharp |
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| 22:06.42 | Lone_Wanderer | the really weird thing though is that when I got cut, I tasted the cut. Never really had synesthesia like that before. |
| 22:14.30 | SunSparc | Off to try some sledding with the youth of our ward. Laterz all. |
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| 22:27.38 | supernovia | this is such a perfect day for sledding!! |
| 22:27.59 | PoeticIntensity | is it snowing where you are? |
| 22:28.07 | supernovia | No |
| 22:28.17 | herlo | not here either :) |
| 22:28.21 | supernovia | but it's sunny and warm and there's plenty of snow left |
| 22:28.25 | PoeticIntensity | yeah... There's very little snow left here... and it's sunny. |
| 22:28.33 | herlo | PoeticIntensity: where are you? |
| 22:28.37 | supernovia | I still have a good 6" or so here in Highland |
| 22:28.42 | supernovia | well, in the backyard anyway |
| 22:28.43 | PoeticIntensity | ah... that's the issue... |
| 22:29.39 | stderr | I'd just like to thank the gods for saving my poor respiratory system |
| 22:29.47 | stderr | the inversion nearly killed me |
| 22:29.50 | Lone_Wanderer | the air quality was giving you trouble? |
| 22:30.38 | supernovia | not only did the air quality suck, I missed my mountains |
| 22:30.53 | supernovia | and the sunshine and blue skies and warm (ish? 46 degree?) air |
| 22:31.00 | herlo | stderr: me too! |
| 22:31.07 | supernovia | so warm in fact my daughter's insisting I go outside and share some icecream with her :-p |
| 22:31.21 | stderr | Lone_Wanderer: yes, I got a bacterial sinus infection from it |
| 22:31.27 | Lone_Wanderer | oh man, that sucks |
| 22:31.31 | supernovia | I totally got nastyville asthma from it |
| 22:31.57 | Lone_Wanderer | man |
| 22:31.58 | herlo | all cleared up yesterday... |
| 22:32.12 | stderr | thankfully, the Colts winning cleared up the infection, and then the lil storm helped out my future |
| 22:32.14 | Lone_Wanderer | so glad I don't live up there |
| 22:32.27 | herlo | stderr: haha |
| 22:32.53 | stderr | seriously, the Colts won on Saturday, I was dying. Sunday morning, I felt brand spanking new. |
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| 22:34.11 | utahcon | blendmaster1024!!!! |
| 22:36.03 | blendmaster1024 | hello |
| 22:36.17 | jtsnow | my wife and I beat bowser and started on world 9... then, two days later, turned on the wii and it said the file had been corrupted! :P |
| 22:37.29 | blendmaster1024 | and i just set up nvidia's CUDA to use it for GPGPU stuff |
| 22:41.40 | utahcon | jtsnow: that is called "replay value" |
| 22:41.58 | jtsnow | heh... yup... already started over |
| 22:44.04 | utahcon | blendmaster1024: what you doing with GPGPU? |
| 22:44.15 | utahcon | or what are you planning to do? |
| 22:44.15 | blendmaster1024 | whatever i feel like |
| 22:44.26 | utahcon | have fun supernovia |
| 22:44.38 | blendmaster1024 | it's just really cool to have a graphics card capable of 23 gflops |
| 22:44.48 | supernovia | thanks. We decided it'd be better to eat the icecream in the car then run around outside |
| 22:45.00 | supernovia | so I'm off to do that with the kiddos. Yay! see ya |
| 22:45.48 | utahcon | blendmaster1024: you should get fancy with it and then share your findings. |
| 22:46.23 | blendmaster1024 | utahcon, well i think if i get to understand it well enough that it would be fun, i'll try to recode the blender raytracer to run on a gpu |
| 22:46.32 | blendmaster1024 | (with cuda, so ati users can go die) |
| 22:46.49 | utahcon | blendmaster1024: now that isn't nice. |
| 22:46.52 | mgeary | romanovic: pong |
| 22:47.26 | blendmaster1024 | of course, ati sucks. |
| 22:47.30 | blendmaster1024 | >:) |
| 22:47.45 | herlo | utahcon: you owe me a presentation for SLLUG daytime in February |
| 22:48.09 | herlo | just a reminder :) ^^ |
| 22:51.33 | Lone_Wanderer | okay, too much cayenne pepper in this one |
| 22:51.34 | mindjuju | #uphpu has a strict age limit, you have to be at least 16 yrs old, who let in blendmaster1024? |
| 22:51.49 | blendmaster1024 | i'm 512 years old |
| 22:51.52 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 23:25.58 | Lone_Wanderer | man, EVE Online really gets under your skin. |
| 23:27.20 | justincarmony | lol |
| 23:28.17 | mindjuju | if i had time, i'd like to sample Eve, but alas, no time |
| 23:28.21 | Lone_Wanderer | www.eveonline.com |
| 23:28.33 | Lone_Wanderer | It's one of the time-friendlier MMOs out there |
| 23:28.52 | mindjuju | not sure what you meant thoguh, by gets under your skin |
| 23:30.38 | stderr | Lone_Wanderer: get somebody to recruit you into GoonFleet |
| 23:31.27 | wps | if you're redirecting to a different server, is there something more appropriate to use than a rewriterule? |
| 23:31.55 | wps | I have a vague memory about a redirect command or something |
| 23:32.17 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm working on it, stderr |
| 23:32.33 | Lone_Wanderer | trying to get in via Merch Industries, since I'm a PA Enforcer |
| 23:32.46 | stderr | pretty sure synic is still a member |
| 23:32.48 | Lone_Wanderer | mindjuju: I mean I keep thinking about it even when I'm not playing. |
| 23:32.51 | Lone_Wanderer | sweet |
| 23:32.53 | mindjuju | utahcon, looks like conan does get $40mil to walk away |
| 23:32.54 | mindjuju | http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704541004575011482898148788.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read |
| 23:33.04 | mindjuju | provided, he stops talking bad about NBC |
| 23:33.36 | mindjuju | maybe its me and my short sightedness, but if it were me, I'd take the $40 mil, not worry about another show and call it a life |
| 23:33.40 | mindjuju | and just chill from then on |
| 23:33.46 | mindjuju | no more work, just fun |
| 23:34.34 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah, I think that's pretty much what I'd do. |
| 23:34.44 | Lone_Wanderer | If I could get even 10 million I'd be set for life. |
| 23:35.38 | fungus | wps, using RewriteRule for redirects generates the same output as using Redirect or RedirectMatch directives, RewriteRule just gives you rewrite flexibility |
| 23:35.49 | stderr | I don't think Conan took over the Tonight Show for _money_. |
| 23:35.51 | mindjuju | imagining that there is no interest accruing, 5 million over 40 yrs is 125000k a year |
| 23:36.01 | wps | thanks, fungus |
| 23:36.17 | mindjuju | i could live on that |
| 23:36.58 | Lone_Wanderer | Did you mean 125k? |
| 23:37.06 | Lone_Wanderer | 'cause 125,000k is a lot more than 125k ;) |
| 23:37.32 | fungus | wps, however if your redirect is truly a permanent redirect, you can add a parameter to your RewriteRule to return a 304 instead of the default 302 for temporary redirects |
| 23:37.35 | mindjuju | :) yup, meant 125k |
| 23:37.45 | fungus | pretty much just semantics though. |
| 23:37.53 | wps | what's 304? |
| 23:38.02 | wps | don't I want 301 (permanent)? |
| 23:38.32 | fungus | yeah, that's what I meant |
| 23:38.40 | wps | k⦠cool⦠thanks |
| 23:40.05 | fungus | mindjuju, and add interest into that, and you can have almost that much every year without reducing your original principal *ever* |
| 23:40.19 | mindjuju | yup, i was just going to say that :) |
| 23:40.22 | mindjuju | http://www.calcudora.com/regular-savings-calculator.php |
| 23:40.35 | mindjuju | $150k a year if you leave that as seed money |
| 23:41.22 | fungus | sad part is, most people die before they ever even reach $5mil |
| 23:42.08 | mindjuju | now at 3% interest, if he dumps the 40 mil in there, he'll get 1.2 million a year in interest |
| 23:42.18 | DexterTheDragon | you'd be set with 1mil gaining interest |
| 23:42.46 | mindjuju | that's 100,000 a month to live on |
| 23:42.51 | mindjuju | seems pretty tight to me |
| 23:43.07 | stderr | I <3 that my family guarantees me financial security for the rest of my life, even though I do save quite a bit. |
| 23:43.41 | mindjuju | i could prolly count on my family for $5 at any one time |
| 23:43.43 | mindjuju | but that is about it |
| 23:44.16 | redroy | Just curious... I'm revamping a framework of mine and tempted to use InnoDB. I've done my homework and I feel I understand the pro's and con's, but I'm used to MyISAM. Does anyone here use and prefer InnoDB? |
| 23:44.55 | justincarmony | redroy: I use InnoDB every day :) |
| 23:45.08 | mgeary | stderr: trust fund baby? |
| 23:45.54 | _psychic_ | live at home 35yo? |
| 23:45.59 | mgeary | hahahah |
| 23:46.07 | stderr | mgeary: yes, plus 2 houses or so per kid, plus all of their actual monetary assets |
| 23:46.08 | _psychic_ | ;) |
| 23:46.14 | mgeary | woot |
| 23:46.52 | mgeary | well, if i was killed in an accident today, my family would be set for a very long time, but barring that, we've got to do it oldschool |
| 23:46.56 | stderr | pretty good when you were raised on food stamps and worked as a landscaper after high school class to keep the family afloat. |
| 23:47.10 | mgeary | stderr: totally, that's awesome |
| 23:47.36 | fungus | I think I can count on my fam to take me in if I was homeless. I'd do it for any of them. |
| 23:48.25 | fungus | nothing fancy, but a very nice safety net. |
| 23:48.37 | mindjuju | yeah, true that, my in laws would take us in |
| 23:48.46 | mindjuju | err, inlaw |
| 23:48.55 | redroy | justincarmony, thanks! Does the relational abilities change how you query a lot? I tend to use joins etc. all the time |
| 23:49.33 | Lone_Wanderer | what exactly is a trust fund? |
| 23:49.48 | justincarmony | redroy: I don't use the forgeign key constrants offered by InnoDB, I just use normal indexes and such |
| 23:49.51 | Lone_Wanderer | my inlaws might not take me in but I'm sure a homeless shelter would. |
| 23:50.07 | fungus | redroy, from an admin perspective innodb merges all tables/databases into a single set of files, not very friendly for backups, maintenance, etc. |
| 23:50.20 | stderr | Lone_Wanderer: essentially, for each child in our family, my parents have 250,000 they manage for us at their discretion |
| 23:50.21 | fungus | from a programmer perspective innodb gives you real transactions! |
| 23:50.41 | Lone_Wanderer | ah ok |
| 23:50.42 | justincarmony | InnoDB also doesn't have table lock issues like MyISQM |
| 23:50.52 | justincarmony | it has page locks instead of table logs |
| 23:50.54 | justincarmony | locks* |
| 23:51.11 | fungus | ah yes, that too. InnoDB is really cool. |
| 23:53.59 | redroy | justincarmony, so you would prefer InnoDB just on the efficiency advantages... fungus, good to know thank you |
| 23:54.56 | justincarmony | hrm... http://screencast.com/t/YjczMGI1 |
| 23:55.50 | fungus | justincarmony, http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/shouldersurgery/a/shoulderpain.htm |
| 23:56.20 | fungus | is it worth it? :) |
| 23:56.53 | justincarmony | lol, I have a backpack :P |
| 23:57.11 | justincarmony | I've learned first hand shoulder bags suck to carry around |
| 23:57.30 | redroy | Got to run, thanks for the insight |
| 23:57.32 | fungus | even a backpack sucks with a laptop that huge and heavy |
| 23:58.36 | mindjuju | wow, is that somebody's laptop screen? |
| 23:59.46 | justincarmony | oh, Its 1920 not 1900, but it shows the idea :P |