| 00:36.45 | thebigdog | reading apache log files can be boring at times |
| 00:36.56 | wps | at times? |
| 00:37.01 | wps | when is it exciting? |
| 00:38.10 | thebigdog | when i am trying to track down specific ip addresses and 404 errors |
| 00:38.29 | thebigdog | other than that i am pretty cool with it |
| 01:34.00 | jtsnow | jsmith: what are you trying to do in Drupal? |
| 01:34.14 | jsmith | Wrap my head around the Domains module |
| 01:34.31 | jsmith | So I've got two domains running off the same set of tables, as I want them to share some of their content |
| 01:34.40 | jtsnow | yep |
| 01:34.47 | jsmith | For certain custom node types, it's working splendidly |
| 01:35.08 | jsmith | For others, it's only showing a small minority of the nodes on the second (non-default) site |
| 01:35.18 | jsmith | Problem is, I can't figure out what's different between the two |
| 01:35.46 | jsmith | It appears that Domain Access is assigning them different grant ids in the node access table, but I don't understand why |
| 01:35.53 | jtsnow | hmmm |
| 01:36.00 | jsmith | I've wasted entirely too much time on this now, and it's driving me mad |
| 01:36.03 | jtsnow | have you rebuilt the node grants? |
| 01:36.12 | jsmith | That's what screwed things up in the first place. |
| 01:36.19 | jsmith | I'm tempted to try again, though. |
| 01:36.35 | jsmith | (Everything *was* working until my wife accidentally rebuilt the node grants) |
| 01:37.13 | jtsnow | rebuilding again, in theory, shouldn't break anything |
| 01:37.21 | jsmith | Let's give it a shot! |
| 01:37.34 | jtsnow | actually... Domain Access doesn't use node grants :P |
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| 01:38.10 | jtsnow | I think it uses hook_db_rewrite_sql |
| 01:38.28 | mindjuju | not meaning to distract anybody from working, i won't mention his name, but i think that's awesomely cool that his wife was working with the site admin |
| 01:40.29 | jtsnow | nevermind my last comment... that is only if you're using Domain Access Advanced module as well |
| 01:40.33 | jsmith | mindjuju: She does a bit of coding, and a lot of the admin. I do a lot of the coding, and a bit of the admin. |
| 01:40.48 | mindjuju | that's too cool jsmith |
| 01:40.59 | jsmith | jtsnow: Mind explaining to me the difference... my brain is mush, and I'm having a hard time understanding the concept of node grants |
| 01:41.17 | jsmith | jtsnow: I know it's rewriting the queries to join the node table to the node_access table |
| 01:41.52 | jsmith | mindjuju: Anybody that can do HTML and PHP and still make a mean catfish and gumbo meal is alright in my book :-) |
| 01:42.43 | jsmith | jtsnow: (I really appreciate you helping me out... just having someone to bounce ideas off of will do wonders for my sanity) |
| 01:43.15 | jtsnow | jsmith: do you have devel module installed? |
| 01:43.35 | jsmith | I have it installed, but not enabled |
| 01:43.39 | jsmith | Let me turn it on |
| 01:44.10 | jsmith | (as soon as the node access permissions finish rebuilding... this site has a metric ton of nodes) |
| 01:44.44 | jtsnow | devel provides a block that will display the node access permissions for whatever node you are viewing |
| 01:47.34 | jtsnow | jsmith: this is Drupal 6, right? |
| 01:48.21 | jsmith | jtsnow: Correct... up to date version of Drupal 6 |
| 01:48.32 | jsmith | (95% done rebuilding permissions) |
| 01:50.04 | jtsnow | actually for that block, you'll have to enable 'Devel node access' module. Comes with devel |
| 01:51.40 | jsmith | Yeah, just turned it on as well. |
| 01:53.17 | jsmith | Ugh... when I log into the site as the admin, everything shows up |
| 01:53.45 | jsmith | When I log out, I only get a very small subset :-/ |
| 01:54.07 | jsmith | But I can only see the node access block when I'm logged in, right? |
| 01:56.36 | jtsnow | most likely |
| 01:57.24 | jtsnow | go to a node that is giving you problems and take a look at the node access block |
| 01:57.41 | jtsnow | are you using any other modules that deal with node access? |
| 01:57.57 | jsmith | I'm not sure |
| 01:58.01 | jsmith | I'm not aware of any |
| 01:58.17 | jsmith | I'm mostly using CCK, views, path_redirect, and pathauto |
| 01:58.22 | jsmith | Oh, and ubercart |
| 02:00.14 | jsmith | What other modules might deal with node access? |
| 02:00.53 | jtsnow | organic groups, content access |
| 02:01.29 | jtsnow | anything that implements hook_node_grants |
| 02:02.06 | jtsnow | what does the node access block tell you? |
| 02:04.10 | jsmith | Well, I'm sheepishly wondering what I have to do to get that block to appear |
| 02:04.30 | jtsnow | Administer > Site Building > Blocks |
| 02:04.31 | jsmith | It's been so long since I used the devel module, that I don't remember how to turn on the devel blocks |
| 02:06.48 | jsmith | OK, adding that block now, and setting it so that it's only visible for administrators |
| 02:11.49 | jsmith | Hmmmn... still not getting the block to show |
| 02:11.55 | jsmith | So, here's the other weird thing. |
| 02:12.29 | jsmith | What I have is a page (let's call it "the list page"), that shows a bunch of taxonomy terms based on a node's content type. |
| 02:13.07 | jsmith | So I might have a list page for images, a list page for documents, let's say |
| 02:13.24 | jsmith | So the list page for images might look something like: |
| 02:13.32 | jsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.39 | jsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.57 | jsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.59 | jsmith | etc. |
| 02:14.24 | jsmith | And when you click on that, it goes to a view that shows just the images that have that taxonomy term. |
| 02:14.25 | jsmith | Now, here's where things get interesting. |
| 02:18.31 | jsmith | If I go edit one of those nodes, it has a section called "Domain Access Options" |
| 02:18.47 | jsmith | And there are two sections of checkboxes |
| 02:19.13 | jsmith | The first says "Publishing options: Send to all affiliates" and says that it will override anything in the section below |
| 02:19.35 | jsmith | I have that checked, as I want this node to show up on all domains |
| 02:20.27 | jsmith | Underneath that is a list of all my domains. Currently, on the primary domain is checked. If I check the other domain, the associated term shows up in the image list page, which links to this node. |
| 02:20.28 | jtsnow | right |
| 02:20.39 | jsmith | It's like the "Send to all affiliates" checkbox isn't working. |
| 02:21.12 | jsmith | So, the question is, why does it do it this way for this content type, but not for my other content type? |
| 02:21.44 | jsmith | (and if I can't figure that out, is there an easy way to batch update all the nodes of this content type, short of writing directly to the database) |
| 02:22.32 | jtsnow | did you give anonymous users permission to see devel information? |
| 02:22.54 | jsmith | Probably not... I won't worry about that now |
| 02:23.26 | jsmith | When I'm logged in, I can see the node_access information... and I have two browsers up -- one with me logged in as an admin, and the other as an anonymous user, so it's not that big of a deal. |
| 02:24.02 | jsmith | (Wow, the devel stuff really appears to be slowing down the site) |
| 02:24.13 | jsmith | (Now I remember why I turned it off in the first place!) |
| 02:24.26 | jtsnow | yeah, it shouldn't be used in production |
| 02:26.14 | jsmith | So, once I checked my other domain in the edit form and saved the node, I get an additional row in the node_access table (and hence in the block) |
| 02:26.31 | jsmith | Now I have two rows with realm set to "domain_id", and one set to "domain_site" |
| 02:28.04 | jsmith | Am I to infer that the "domain_id" rows grant permission for a particular domain, and that the "domain_site" rows allow access to all domains? |
| 02:28.16 | jtsnow | I believe so |
| 02:28.28 | jtsnow | I have realms "domain_all" and "domain_id" |
| 02:29.04 | jsmith | drupal6=# select realm, count(*) from node_access group by realm; |
| 02:29.04 | jsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.04 | jsmith | -------------+------- |
| 02:29.04 | jsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.04 | jsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.06 | jsmith | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.08 | jsmith | (3 rows) |
| 02:33.14 | jtsnow | domain access module is up to date? |
| 02:35.38 | jsmith | Ugh... looks like there's an update |
| 02:35.49 | jsmith | Let me try applying the update first, and see if that fixes it |
| 02:41.12 | jsmith | OK, just did the update... now looking at the results |
| 02:43.59 | jsmith | Well what do you know... the update fixed it |
| 02:44.13 | jsmith | I've just wasted four hours for nothing :-p |
| 02:44.34 | jsmith | jtsnow: I really appreciate your patience with me while I worked through this, and I'm sorry I didn't catch the update sooner |
| 02:44.49 | jsmith | jtsnow: I swear I looked for an update a few days ago, but I must have missed it |
| 03:07.19 | jsmith-away | jtsnow: I owe you one! |
| 03:12.56 | wps | thanks, jsmith-away, too bad I can't email you one |
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| 03:48.38 | supernovia-afk | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:48.45 | supernovia-afk | oops. |
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| 04:17.37 | justincarmony | ping mindjuju :P |
| 04:24.40 | beandog | http://comicsidontunderstand.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/sentry.png |
| 04:24.49 | beandog | lol |
| 04:25.11 | DexterTheDragon | nice one beandog |
| 04:25.21 | supernovia | I'd save you guys :) |
| 04:31.02 | supernovia | has anyone ever done a "live interactive video" class? I don't even know what that is supposed to mean. |
| 04:32.25 | DexterTheDragon | aren't those like the ones where your in a room with a prejector and a video camera |
| 04:32.39 | DexterTheDragon | and the presenter is somewhere else and shown on the projector |
| 04:32.50 | DexterTheDragon | and you can ask questions on the video camera |
| 04:32.54 | supernovia | Is it? I really have no idea. |
| 04:33.00 | supernovia | I guess that would make sense though |
| 04:33.17 | supernovia | Ooh. |
| 04:33.43 | supernovia | that'd be why these buildings say HS on them.. gah! Could I go to school with people literally half my age? |
| 04:56.38 | jtsnow | jsmith-away: nice! I'm glad that worked |
| 05:02.32 | justincarmony | grrrr arg I hate Mac Sometimes :P |
| 05:03.07 | supernovia | With a capital S? |
| 05:03.37 | wps | newbold or intosh? |
| 05:04.45 | supernovia | lol wps. But really with the Sometimes being capitalized like that does it mean you really love it other times... or mostly hate it? I saw your tweets.. |
| 05:05.17 | justincarmony | lol |
| 05:05.26 | justincarmony | intosh :P |
| 05:05.40 | justincarmony | I'm soooo close |
| 05:05.44 | justincarmony | to having my awesome syncing |
| 05:06.04 | justincarmony | however, for some reason, iSync thinks it should use MobileMe too |
| 05:06.07 | justincarmony | which it shouldn't |
| 05:06.20 | justincarmony | but it throws an err every 30 mins |
| 05:06.52 | wps | oh, no⦠you read my tweets???? |
| 05:09.04 | supernovia | actually I don't think I do - are you on twitter wps? |
| 05:09.16 | wps | :) |
| 05:09.33 | wps | at least you're not blogstalking me |
| 05:09.40 | wps | twitter.com/wadeshearer |
| 05:10.36 | supernovia | you mean like adding your blog to my reader? :-p |
| 05:12.54 | beandog | http://xkcd.com/674/ |
| 05:12.57 | beandog | lol |
| 05:13.09 | beandog | oh man, Ive been reading comics for wayyyyyyyyy too long tonight |
| 05:13.10 | beandog | someone stop me! |
| 05:13.22 | supernovia | heheh, nice |
| 05:14.51 | beandog | oy |
| 05:14.55 | beandog | too early to go to bed |
| 05:14.58 | beandog | too late to start something new |
| 05:14.59 | beandog | Hmmm |
| 05:15.08 | beandog | This calls for ......... ginger snaps! |
| 05:15.21 | supernovia | ginger snaps? |
| 05:17.01 | beandog | yah, that was a bit personal, wasn't it. |
| 05:17.08 | beandog | nom nom nom |
| 05:17.39 | beandog | I'm a bit loopy tonight, even by my standards. |
| 05:18.00 | supernovia | did you make the ginger snaps? :) |
| 05:18.19 | beandog | store bought |
| 05:18.35 | beandog | wps: youre on twitter? |
| 05:18.36 | beandog | man |
| 05:18.46 | beandog | I thought you'd be like .... mr. anti-twitter himself |
| 05:19.10 | wps | I have been |
| 05:19.27 | beandog | 104 tweets? You noob. :) |
| 05:19.31 | beandog | ;) |
| 05:19.31 | beandog | j/k |
| 05:19.35 | wps | decided I shouldn't knock it 'til I rocked it |
| 05:19.35 | beandog | wps: cool man |
| 05:19.41 | beandog | lol |
| 05:19.54 | wps | giving it a whirl |
| 05:21.13 | wps | held out as long as I could :) |
| 05:21.32 | supernovia | Twitter rocks my non life. |
| 05:21.54 | beandog | The inconsistency between PHP functions that return the result and modify the subject is annoyingâstandardize or use a modifier (like Ruby) |
| 05:21.57 | beandog | wps: like what? |
| 05:22.00 | beandog | supernovia: heh, well said. |
| 05:22.28 | wps | I mostly knocked it because of it's uselessness, but then I realized how much worthless chatter I participate in on IRC :) |
| 05:22.36 | wps | like sort() |
| 05:22.38 | supernovia | lol |
| 05:23.12 | beandog | sort returns bool I thought |
| 05:23.20 | beandog | wps: or am I not following |
| 05:23.29 | beandog | wps: I gotta say, I actually like your tweets, tbh. |
| 05:23.43 | beandog | You certainly put a lot more thought into yours than I do mine |
| 05:23.49 | beandog | Of course, that's what makes mine so entertaining, too |
| 05:23.51 | beandog | :) |
| 05:23.58 | beandog | Or at least, to me |
| 05:24.05 | wps | thanksâ¦Â tried to make it worthwhile |
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| 05:25.13 | beandog | supernovia: how come youre never on IRC? |
| 05:25.29 | beandog | wps: I live for the worthless chatter on IRC |
| 05:25.30 | beandog | its great |
| 05:25.34 | supernovia | well, I've been on it lots this week. Usually b/c I am at school though. |
| 05:25.36 | beandog | its so ... something. |
| 05:25.36 | wps | same |
| 05:25.46 | beandog | reliable. :) |
| 05:25.49 | supernovia | and before that... top secret. |
| 05:25.53 | wps | I'm haven't been around as much due to my current job, but I'm a big IRC junky |
| 05:26.17 | wps | and I really miss jbot |
| 05:26.22 | wps | :( |
| 05:26.33 | supernovia | 10 years ago I was on it all the time :-p |
| 05:26.53 | beandog | man |
| 05:27.01 | beandog | how long have I been on IRC? |
| 05:27.09 | beandog | wow, like 15 years |
| 05:27.10 | beandog | freek |
| 05:27.31 | beandog | well, I *started* about 15 years ago |
| 05:27.34 | beandog | I gave it up for about 8 years |
| 05:27.36 | beandog | ~boring |
| 05:27.37 | ibot | yes, you are beandog |
| 05:28.25 | beandog | Oy |
| 05:28.26 | supernovia | I think I started on it at 18 or so, then stopped rather abruptly. |
| 05:28.29 | beandog | I really do need something to do .......... |
| 05:28.30 | wps | what does your IRC client look like? |
| 05:28.33 | beandog | obviously |
| 05:28.41 | beandog | I used to use mIRC |
| 05:28.44 | beandog | that thing was great. |
| 05:28.47 | wps | http://screencast.com/t/N2E4MTA3YT |
| 05:28.48 | supernovia | yeah it was! :-D |
| 05:28.51 | beandog | used to code in it, too |
| 05:29.06 | beandog | wps: wow, that is sexy nice |
| 05:29.56 | supernovia | I haven't really settled back in to a client yet. |
| 05:30.35 | beandog | meh |
| 05:30.36 | beandog | too much work |
| 05:30.42 | beandog | wps: mine is xchat. pretty simple |
| 05:30.46 | beandog | its gray on gray |
| 05:30.51 | beandog | for color scheme |
| 05:30.53 | beandog | easy on the eyes |
| 05:30.53 | supernovia | yeah I'm on pidgin for now. xchat earlier |
| 05:31.20 | beandog | pidgin would drive me mad |
| 05:31.33 | beandog | well, it does drive me mad |
| 05:31.34 | beandog | Okay |
| 05:31.38 | supernovia | it does drive me mad too. |
| 05:31.38 | beandog | I really need to watch a movie .............................. |
| 05:31.45 | beandog | Im in the mood for a weird one. |
| 05:31.45 | supernovia | OH |
| 05:31.53 | supernovia | how did you like sherlock btw? |
| 05:31.57 | beandog | I didnt watch it |
| 05:32.01 | beandog | I know Im not gonna likei t |
| 05:32.06 | supernovia | I was so in the mood for a crazy movie the other night. |
| 05:32.06 | beandog | I'm a real Holmes fan |
| 05:32.12 | supernovia | Ah. |
| 05:32.24 | wps | big holmes fan here |
| 05:32.24 | beandog | I have all the Basil Rathbone movies |
| 05:32.30 | beandog | and almost all the radio dramas |
| 05:32.34 | beandog | I *loooooooooooooooves* them |
| 05:32.57 | beandog | Petri Wine brings you ... Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce! |
| 05:33.11 | beandog | in the New Adventures of Sherlock Holmes! |
| 05:33.13 | supernovia | I haven't seen any of them. not that it's terribly surprising |
| 05:33.17 | beandog | ~circa 1930s |
| 05:33.33 | beandog | The Petri family, the family that took time to bring you good wine |
| 05:33.44 | beandog | invites you to another something something thrilling mystery |
| 05:33.51 | beandog | starring something something, Sherlock Holmes! |
| 05:34.03 | beandog | I even remember the jingle |
| 05:34.08 | beandog | Oh, the Petri family took the time |
| 05:34.11 | beandog | to bring you such good wine |
| 05:34.14 | beandog | so when you eat, |
| 05:34.16 | beandog | and when you drink |
| 05:34.20 | beandog | remember Petri wine! |
| 05:34.38 | beandog | Remember -- to make good food taste better! |
| 05:34.46 | beandog | pet, pet, petriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine |
| 05:34.56 | supernovia | lol - trying to find it on youtube |
| 05:34.57 | beandog | :) |
| 05:35.09 | beandog | look for mp3s |
| 05:35.15 | beandog | ~google otr holmes mp3 |
| 05:35.46 | beandog | supernovia: they are ADDICTIVELY good |
| 05:35.48 | supernovia | Ahhhhh |
| 05:35.51 | beandog | dont say I didnt warn you |
| 05:36.09 | beandog | Old Time Radio is a whole nother entertainment industry |
| 05:36.14 | beandog | Dead now *sniff* |
| 05:36.16 | supernovia | this is perfect actually. I so prefer listening to watching. |
| 05:36.18 | beandog | But the quality level was amazing. |
| 05:36.35 | supernovia | and I do prefer reading to listening but that's hard to do while doing other things |
| 05:36.39 | beandog | Think of it as a Hollywood where 85% of the stuff was *really good* |
| 05:37.05 | beandog | supernovia: poke me next meeting and I can load you up on some stuff that's public domain |
| 05:37.13 | supernovia | Sweeeet. |
| 05:37.30 | supernovia | I need to download some of this now. This is the boringest.. week.. ever |
| 05:37.57 | beandog | supernovia: if you want some GOOD stuff |
| 05:38.19 | beandog | Look for: Dimension X, X Minus One, Family Theater, Jonny Dollar |
| 05:38.22 | supernovia | gimme some o that good stuff (singing it) |
| 05:38.26 | beandog | and personally, I like The Third Man |
| 05:38.49 | beandog | Orson Welles |
| 05:38.49 | beandog | he's so amazing. |
| 05:38.56 | beandog | supernovia: did you find some? |
| 05:39.31 | supernovia | not of the 3rd man yet |
| 05:39.41 | beandog | supernovia: those are hard to find. |
| 05:41.58 | beandog | Okies |
| 05:42.08 | beandog | I think imma bed and watch tng |
| 05:45.53 | beandog | g'nite guys |
| 05:49.03 | supernovia | I'm going to have to get an ipod. :) |
| 05:54.23 | wps | interesting |
| 05:54.27 | wps | and the rumors churn⦠|
| 05:54.43 | wps | ex-google exec that claims to have inside knowledge on the upcoming Apple tablet says it'll have a front-side camera |
| 05:57.23 | supernovia | think it'll be any good? |
| 05:57.54 | wps | I think soâ¦Â think of what can be done with apps |
| 05:57.56 | supernovia | the camera, I mean... sure the tablet will be the best thing ever (at least for mac fans :)) |
| 05:58.00 | wps | it's a blank canvas |
| 05:58.07 | wps | ohâ¦Â the camera |
| 05:58.30 | wps | I can't see why it wouldn't be at least as good as the cameras in the current macbooks |
| 05:59.52 | supernovia | I am so behind on mac technology. |
| 06:01.37 | supernovia | Well. I have been super chatty today.. I think I'm going to back away from the computer at this point. Have a good night! |
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| 15:28.56 | jsmith | jtsnow: If you have a minute or two today, mind if I ping you again re: the Drupal problem I mentioned yesterday? It was working last night, but now it's not working again :-( |
| 15:29.27 | jtsnow | jsmith: yeah, go for it |
| 15:30.01 | jsmith | jtsnow: Any ideas why it would have gone back to being broken this morning? Does cron play into this somehow? |
| 15:33.23 | jtsnow | I've never seen that problem with the domain module |
| 15:33.50 | jtsnow | I don't think cron would have an affect |
| 15:36.39 | jtsnow | jsmith: If you haven't already, I would try: 1) Clearing all caches 2) Rebuilding node grants |
| 15:36.47 | jtsnow | then you may try this module: http://drupal.org/project/domain_adv |
| 15:39.01 | jsmith | jtsnow: Looks like it may have been cron related... I changed my cron to reference the new domain, and that seemed to fix it |
| 15:39.14 | jtsnow | cool |
| 15:39.38 | jsmith | Changed from wget -O - -q http://localhost/drupal/cron.php to two entries |
| 15:39.45 | jsmith | both of which referenced the specific site names |
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| 16:40.01 | wps | it's amazing how many accounts UPHPU's mailman server has been approved for at the Viagra online store |
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| 16:55.36 | mindjuju | tasers! - http://gizmodo.com/5437088/cop-tasers-unconscious-diabetic-11-times?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gizmodo%2Ffull+%28Gizmodo%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher |
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| 17:14.05 | justincarmony | hola :P |
| 17:14.09 | justincarmony | anyone here this last day of the year? |
| 17:14.44 | mindjuju | no, its just you |
| 17:15.41 | justincarmony | omg a mindjuju :P |
| 17:15.46 | justincarmony | lets see if this works... |
| 17:15.48 | justincarmony | ping: mindjuju |
| 17:16.07 | DexterTheDragon | too late |
| 17:16.48 | justincarmony | lol |
| 17:19.09 | mindjuju | ~apb justincarmony |
| 17:19.10 | ibot | ACTION summons Dog the Bounty Hunter to stake out justincarmony |
| 17:19.37 | mindjuju | did you get your stuff figured out jsmith? |
| 17:19.37 | mindjuju | seems like somebody here does drupal |
| 17:20.19 | jsmith | mindjuju: I got it figured out (I hope!), but it took hours to debug and diagnose |
| 17:20.22 | justincarmony | mindjuju: pm |
| 17:20.47 | mindjuju | if its about money, i'm broke |
| 17:20.48 | mindjuju | sorry |
| 17:20.52 | mindjuju | :) |
| 17:41.23 | mindjuju | ~apb wps |
| 17:41.23 | ibot | ACTION summons Beth to spray mace at wps |
| 17:41.28 | wps | hey now |
| 17:42.09 | mindjuju | wps - pm |
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| 17:42.57 | mindjuju | ah beandog, what up bro |
| 17:44.10 | beandog | eyo |
| 17:45.21 | wps | Altec Lansing customer support is a failure |
| 17:45.26 | wps | I have been on hold for half an hour |
| 17:45.30 | wps | ~lart altec |
| 17:45.30 | ibot | whips out his power stapler and staples altec's foot to the floor |
| 17:45.37 | wps | weak |
| 17:45.37 | mindjuju | don't those guys make speakers or something? |
| 17:45.50 | wps | yeah |
| 17:45.55 | mindjuju | speakerphone for tech support calls FTW |
| 17:46.11 | wps | yeahâ¦Â on speakerphone :) |
| 17:46.23 | mindjuju | though i've been on hold for so long that i've moved on past 10 other tasks and forgotten who i was holding for |
| 17:48.54 | jsmith | Can't be as slow as mine |
| 18:08.32 | macnewbold | there must be pillows in your tubez |
| 18:09.01 | beandog | my internet is so slow, I just saw your message |
| 19:25.59 | Zelut | I'm thinking about adding a login requirement to the contact list app I hacked together yesterday. |
| 19:26.15 | Zelut | should I be looking at cookies or sessions to handle that? |
| 19:50.27 | romanovic | anyone know why code called by onChange() (for form validation) only works like once out of 100 field changes? |
| 19:53.58 | romanovic | oh wait... i see what its doing, it is only calling it once there is a change AND the field loses focus... |
| 19:56.05 | mindjuju | if you have validation on many fields in a form you may want to use onsubmit="return validate()" |
| 19:59.40 | romanovic | onkeyup() is probably the event handler i'm looking for. |
| 20:00.34 | DexterTheDragon | if you want to validate on the fly your best bet would be to set a timer after keypresses. so that it waits a second or two for the typing to stop |
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| 20:25.03 | romanovic | DexterTheDragon: thanks, yeah, it might be a little bit annoying. all it really does is waits for a valid email to be typed, then enables a submit button |
| 20:33.35 | Zelut | I'm doing some reading on SQL injection, and trying to write appropriate code. can anyone comment on the validity of this approach? |
| 20:33.45 | Zelut | http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mysql-real-escape-string.php#92649 |
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| 20:55.02 | Zelut | well I'll keep reading up on things. I did just manage to require login for my contact list page(s) though. |
| 20:55.23 | Zelut | added a table, defining username and password. then a login page to pass the values to an auth query, and if matches it creates the session and displays the index page. |
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| 20:55.25 | Zelut | not sure if I did it "right", but its working and I feel like I'm making progress :) |
| 20:59.23 | Zelut | ohh, can I use "{$_POST['foo']}" instead of '".$_POST['foo']."' ? |
| 21:03.54 | jsmith | Yes, you can |
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| 21:18.04 | beandog | or ${var} |
| 21:18.05 | beandog | works |
| 21:21.24 | Zelut | is it valid to use && in an isset? ie; if isset[foo] && isset[bar] { // baz } |
| 21:21.46 | beandog | You can |
| 21:21.51 | beandog | but PHP freaks out in some instances |
| 21:21.57 | beandog | I've learned not to do it |
| 21:22.07 | beandog | oh, wait |
| 21:22.10 | beandog | I totally read that wrong |
| 21:22.12 | beandog | strike that. |
| 21:22.19 | jsmith | Make sure your two conditions are inside of parentheses |
| 21:22.27 | Zelut | what I'm trying to do is allow an admin to create new login credentials, which require a username && password. |
| 21:22.34 | jsmith | if (isset(foo) && isset(bar)) |
| 21:22.43 | Zelut | so, if(isset username && password) { create new account in Db } else { try again }. |
| 21:22.49 | jsmith | Otherwise, order of operations can bite you |
| 21:22.56 | beandog | if(isset($u) && isset($p)) |
| 21:23.05 | beandog | or just |
| 21:23.08 | beandog | if($u && $p) |
| 21:23.34 | beandog | unset = null = returns false on if |
| 21:23.46 | Zelut | if (isset($_POST['username']) && isset($_POST['password'])) |
| 21:23.58 | jtsnow | though removing the isset can cause warnings in php strict mode... if you care about that |
| 21:24.28 | beandog | Zelut: thats inaccurate, if they post the form, theyre going to be set |
| 21:24.31 | beandog | you wanna see if they are populated |
| 21:25.03 | Zelut | beandog: ohh, good point. |
| 21:25.47 | Zelut | beandog: so how should I verify it is populated? |
| 21:26.01 | beandog | if($var) |
| 21:26.07 | beandog | will return false if its unset or empty |
| 21:26.16 | beandog | or null |
| 21:26.22 | beandog | however, trim it first |
| 21:26.31 | beandog | because if(" ") returns true |
| 21:26.53 | beandog | if("") would be false |
| 21:26.57 | Zelut | ok. i haven't learned trim yet either :) |
| 21:28.21 | Zelut | $username = trim($_POST['username']; ? |
| 21:28.49 | beandog | that'll work |
| 21:30.34 | Zelut | can you suggest how I can add the populated check into what I have here: http://pastebin.com/db008313 |
| 21:30.56 | beandog | kill the first line |
| 21:31.00 | beandog | just set them |
| 21:31.03 | beandog | then just do |
| 21:31.07 | beandog | if($username && $password) |
| 21:31.11 | beandog | and then the query |
| 21:31.27 | beandog | and of course you are missing ) on lines 2 and 3 |
| 21:32.25 | Zelut | that code is above my HTML form. Don't I need the if(isset()) so it doesn't run until/unless its supposed to? |
| 21:32.37 | beandog | just ignore it |
| 21:32.51 | beandog | trim will turn it into a string |
| 21:32.54 | beandog | even if its null / not set |
| 21:32.59 | beandog | so trim(null) returns "" |
| 21:33.08 | beandog | So, just set em |
| 21:33.22 | beandog | Either way, you're going to check if the input is valid |
| 21:33.28 | beandog | do 1 check instead of 2 |
| 21:33.56 | Zelut | I think you lost me. can you put an example in that pastebin? |
| 21:34.11 | beandog | Well, dont do isset() |
| 21:34.15 | beandog | just trim the input variables |
| 21:34.18 | beandog | *then* check them |
| 21:34.27 | beandog | instead of (check 1) see if they are set (check 2) see if the input is valid |
| 21:34.32 | beandog | just do (check 1) input is valid |
| 21:35.43 | Zelut | like so? http://pastebin.com/d6be5176c |
| 21:36.06 | beandog | right |
| 22:04.28 | Zelut | ok. let me think this outloud to see if I'm doing it right.. |
| 22:05.04 | Zelut | I'm expanding the previous function to update passwords for existing users, as opposed to inserting new entries. |
| 22:05.15 | beandog | ugh ... select distinct order by will be the death of me yet |
| 22:05.34 | Zelut | I found that if I enter an existing username with a new password, I get a new entry in the database, based on my query. |
| 22:06.17 | Zelut | so, I was thinking I'd add an additional if statement to query the database and if a row is returned for username, use an UPDATE query. |
| 22:06.24 | Zelut | else, run the insert query.. |
| 22:16.50 | justincarmony | hehehehehehehehehehehehehe.... |
| 22:16.52 | justincarmony | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 22:17.04 | herlo | justincarmony: hi |
| 22:17.11 | justincarmony | hey herlo |
| 22:17.34 | herlo | justincarmony: that's just crazy! the XKCD |
| 22:17.40 | herlo | lol |
| 22:19.25 | justincarmony | how was your christmas herlo ? :) |
| 22:19.37 | herlo | justincarmony: great! |
| 22:19.55 | herlo | justincarmony: I just sent my boy home today with all of the other people crazy enough to fly on new year's eve |
| 22:20.09 | herlo | but we got a $400 voucher for future flights out of the deal |
| 22:20.11 | justincarmony | herlo: rofl, yeah, the airport was a mess yesterday |
| 22:20.14 | justincarmony | nice |
| 22:20.21 | herlo | justincarmony: yeah, we were there yesterday too |
| 22:20.24 | herlo | came back today |
| 22:21.44 | justincarmony | I get sooo mad with people who don't know how to use the Park & Wait |
| 22:22.17 | herlo | lol |
| 22:22.29 | herlo | why for? Do they just sit in there to have their party? |
| 22:22.40 | herlo | I've seen people in there just hanging out to hang out |
| 22:22.51 | herlo | justincarmony: http://xkcd.com/677/ <-- this one is funny too |
| 22:23.14 | justincarmony | lol :P |
| 22:23.31 | herlo | the tooltip text is the best |
| 22:23.37 | herlo | I would totally do that |
| 22:26.10 | justincarmony | no, its people who don't use the park & Wait, and then just park their cars where you pick people up |
| 22:26.19 | justincarmony | making it super congested |
| 22:29.09 | herlo | heh, they should and will get towed eventually |
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| 23:50.09 | justincarmony | man |
| 23:50.14 | justincarmony | I'm tired :P |
| 23:50.25 | supernovia | Did you get your sync thing working? |
| 23:50.28 | justincarmony | no |
| 23:50.35 | justincarmony | think its a bug w/ the mac |
| 23:50.46 | supernovia | ah |
