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| 15:49.25 | supernovia | http://www.korthalsaltes.com/model.php?name_en=great%20stellated%20dodecahedron <- way cool Christmas project for the kids :) |
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| 16:39.29 | SunSparc | ~good morning everyone |
| 16:39.29 | ibot | Good morning everyone, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
| 16:39.38 | supernovia | Hi :-) |
| 16:39.55 | SunSparc | Hey, supernovia is on today! Welcome. |
| 16:40.10 | supernovia | Thanks :) |
| 16:40.20 | supernovia | I get to have more fun on breaks :-) |
| 16:40.31 | supernovia | What are you up to? |
| 16:41.20 | SunSparc | Just working it up before the Christmas break. |
| 16:41.22 | supernovia | We're just gluing together a paper star here |
| 16:41.30 | SunSparc | Sweet. |
| 16:41.35 | supernovia | Good times :o) |
| 16:41.39 | SunSparc | You done with school for the semester? |
| 16:41.43 | supernovia | Yup! |
| 16:41.54 | SunSparc | Woot! |
| 16:42.11 | SunSparc | How do you feel you did? |
| 16:42.24 | supernovia | Happy day, huh? I don't know how I did in two classes, but I've got BAA so far.. even though the B frustrated me it sounds good for Christmas, right? |
| 16:42.49 | SunSparc | lol |
| 16:42.50 | supernovia | and it really was my fault - that was an online class and I had put it off because I was overwhelmed with the others |
| 16:42.52 | SunSparc | Awesome! |
| 16:43.16 | supernovia | as for the other two .. I honestly dont' know. I think I did as well as anyone in those classes |
| 16:43.18 | SunSparc | So you had 5 classes? |
| 16:43.20 | supernovia | Yup |
| 16:43.24 | SunSparc | Cool |
| 16:43.44 | supernovia | My c# test has yet to be graded..that one was scary, since we basically had to program on paper |
| 16:44.03 | supernovia | with a pencil. no compiler crutch |
| 16:44.08 | SunSparc | Oh yeah, paper programming is no fun. |
| 16:44.25 | SunSparc | Yep, no markup, no code completion, etc. :) |
| 16:44.48 | supernovia | I didn't finish it in time so I -know- I didn't get 100% and I'm guessing I may not have gotten an A, because I wasn't quite grasping the OOP we were thrown in the end |
| 16:45.06 | supernovia | should be OK though. I hope |
| 16:45.15 | SunSparc | Yeah, good luck! |
| 16:45.28 | SunSparc | That is cool that you decided to go back to school. |
| 16:45.30 | supernovia | and then that last class was really random, kinda subjective really so I have no idea what I'll get there |
| 16:45.49 | supernovia | Yeah, well, if all goes well I will officially be a sophmore in a day or two |
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| 16:46.11 | supernovia | the 31 year old freshman doesn't sound so good |
| 16:46.28 | supernovia | but I guess it's better than nothing eh? |
| 16:47.11 | SunSparc | It rocks! |
| 16:47.11 | supernovia | Well, not that not going to school is horrible or anything, but I really have ALWAYS wanted to go.. nice to finally have the freedom to do so! |
| 16:47.55 | mgeary | hey, in my college we had a 58 year old freshman |
| 16:47.58 | mgeary | she was awesome |
| 16:48.06 | supernovia | that is cool |
| 16:48.27 | SunSparc | Totally. I hope to go back someday and get a couple more degrees in subjects that I just find interesting and fun. Like astrophysics and electrical engineering. |
| 16:48.39 | supernovia | those would both be awesome |
| 16:48.47 | SunSparc | Totally! |
| 16:48.48 | supernovia | that's why I'm doing integrated studies though - gives me more electives |
| 16:49.02 | SunSparc | integrated? |
| 16:49.03 | supernovia | I seem to do best in my science and art classes |
| 16:49.36 | SunSparc | Science and art are like Yin and Yang. |
| 16:49.51 | supernovia | Yeah.. essentially you pick two minors as a major (more or less..) and I'm also picking a minor in addition to that. They also have "core" classes you take that are really random interesting topics |
| 16:50.11 | SunSparc | Nice. |
| 16:50.20 | supernovia | They are awesome for me. Writing and Math ... I'm ok I guess but I have to try really hard to get an A in those |
| 16:50.30 | SunSparc | I am happy for you. I am glad to see you are enjoying it. :) |
| 16:50.35 | supernovia | Thanks :-) |
| 16:51.05 | SunSparc | How are E and M handling things? |
| 16:51.11 | supernovia | last semester I had two science classes and one art class.. I am sure that's why I did well. |
| 16:51.25 | supernovia | They are doing just fine. thrilled out of their socks to have two sets of Christmas traditions now |
| 16:51.33 | SunSparc | lol |
| 16:51.41 | SunSparc | Good positive way to look at it. |
| 16:51.57 | supernovia | They will be gone late Christmas Eve to Christmas afternoon |
| 16:52.45 | supernovia | and then again for several days after that (boo) but we are living it up for now. Gluing together a stelated dodecahedron for our serendipitous tree as we speak! |
| 16:53.08 | SunSparc | HAH, awesome! |
| 16:53.23 | supernovia | It's going to rock :) |
| 16:54.17 | supernovia | I feel bad we haven't been doing our advent thing so much though - these arm and neck spasms only seem to lift for a few hours at a time and it makes doing everything else a bit rough |
| 16:54.22 | supernovia | still they are happy |
| 16:55.02 | SunSparc | No fun. Sorry you are having those. Hopefully they stop. |
| 16:56.24 | supernovia | I hope so too. I am thinking a lack of homework for a few days will help |
| 16:56.43 | SunSparc | Less stress. That will probably help. |
| 16:56.45 | SunSparc | :) |
| 16:56.49 | supernovia | yup |
| 16:59.14 | supernovia | Coolio |
| 16:59.50 | SunSparc | Yeah. Moving away from MySQL. |
| 17:00.15 | supernovia | I can certainly understand why |
| 17:00.47 | SunSparc | utahcon: do you have kids? |
| 17:00.51 | supernovia | merry Christmas utahcon |
| 17:00.52 | utahcon | 2 |
| 17:01.22 | supernovia | but we've had a paper tree up since the 1st or so |
| 17:01.29 | SunSparc | One year, my parents just decided we would decorate the coffee table and call that our Christmas Table/Tree. |
| 17:01.44 | utahcon | SunSparc: LOL - That is about where I am at |
| 17:01.47 | supernovia | heheh, your parents are awesome, SunSparc |
| 17:01.48 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:02.05 | utahcon | probably break out the christmas decorations tonight ... try to save my arse from the wife kicking it for being so late |
| 17:02.09 | SunSparc | Yeah, they are. But if you think about it, the table used to be a tree. |
| 17:02.15 | utahcon | she asked me to do it weeks ago and I didn't :( |
| 17:02.53 | SunSparc | ibot, help utahcon setup his Christmas tree |
| 17:03.10 | mindjuju | ~seen lone_Wanderer |
| 17:03.12 | ibot | lone_wanderer <n=Dan@c-98-202-123-90.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 18d 19h 25m 15s ago, saying: 'I just thought that getting a rocket propelled grenade as alimony was really bizarre.'. |
| 17:03.17 | supernovia | You should get it done.. your kiddos will love it and your wife will too :) |
| 17:03.33 | mindjuju | hmmm |
| 17:03.40 | supernovia | hi mindjuju! Enjoying your break? from school that is |
| 17:04.00 | mindjuju | yes and no; the anticpation of what I got on my math test is killing |
| 17:04.20 | mindjuju | in the past, i've thought i've done well and didn't doing quite as well as i thought |
| 17:04.26 | mindjuju | and the test i thought i bombed i did well on |
| 17:04.28 | mindjuju | so.... |
| 17:04.31 | mindjuju | who know what i got? |
| 17:04.46 | mindjuju | how are you doing? |
| 17:04.46 | supernovia | I hear you. I'm a bit anxious about my programming test for the same reason |
| 17:04.59 | supernovia | I am so hoping for an A in that class and I don't know whether I cut it |
| 17:05.54 | mindjuju | i am also thinking of cutting back in next semester's schedule to 2 easy 2 hard |
| 17:05.56 | supernovia | Things are going well.. just enjoying some kirigami with the kiddos! |
| 17:06.08 | supernovia | that is a good idea. |
| 17:06.20 | supernovia | I am taking 1 easy... still have to figure out what my 4th class will be |
| 17:06.50 | supernovia | I have to talk to some counselors and get them to let me take more art classes.. thinking the IS in GD and business with a minor in IT should fit |
| 17:06.59 | mindjuju | at least i'm banking on CS1400 being easy |
| 17:07.20 | supernovia | I wonder if you could use my boo |
| 17:07.25 | supernovia | book, that is |
| 17:07.54 | mindjuju | prolly |
| 17:07.58 | mindjuju | what did you pay for it? |
| 17:08.09 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: http://www.sense.fm/192k-high.m3u |
| 17:08.12 | supernovia | I can't remember. Too much and it can't be resold though |
| 17:08.33 | supernovia | Are you taking it in person? |
| 17:08.42 | mindjuju | online |
| 17:09.08 | supernovia | It actual wasn't so bad in person really.. gave me an hour to work on other stuff when it was easy :-D |
| 17:09.11 | supernovia | hehe, OK |
| 17:09.22 | supernovia | Well let me know what book you need if they require one |
| 17:09.33 | mindjuju | k |
| 17:11.06 | mindjuju | sometimes i think that the whole university + publisher thing is a monopoly |
| 17:11.12 | supernovia | yeah it is |
| 17:11.19 | supernovia | and kids schools too |
| 17:11.24 | supernovia | my polisci book was the worst! |
| 17:11.25 | mindjuju | you HAVE to use this book, THIS edition and we change it EVERY year |
| 17:12.05 | supernovia | prof Cold was pretty awesome.. we were working in sles9 for that class. Old book. Saved a little $ |
| 17:13.48 | mindjuju | today is the day i'm cleaning out everything for next semester |
| 17:14.00 | mindjuju | throwing away old papers, emails, cleaning out google docs |
| 17:14.05 | supernovia | good for you |
| 17:14.07 | mindjuju | straightening the office |
| 17:14.07 | supernovia | I haven't done that |
| 17:14.21 | supernovia | I am lolling around making paper polyhedra |
| 17:14.32 | supernovia | and I typically keep my books and some of my papers... |
| 17:14.55 | supernovia | I will probably have to clean off the computer though - somehow my left hinge got all cracked so I'm going to have to send it in |
| 17:15.34 | mindjuju | bummer! |
| 17:16.10 | supernovia | yeah I'll wait till the kids are gone for a while so I can use their laptop (which is really just my old laptop) |
| 17:17.56 | SunSparc | supernovia: You could take it over to my house and hang out with Mrs. SunSparc. |
| 17:18.26 | supernovia | I could. It's getting it up the stairs with my lame arm that's messing me up. But my rad little brother will probably rescue me if I ask. |
| 17:18.40 | SunSparc | That helps. :) |
| 17:19.05 | supernovia | It'd be fun to hang out with Mrs. SunSparc though... she is awesome :-) |
| 17:19.16 | SunSparc | hehe, I agree. |
| 17:19.28 | supernovia | you're luck you get to hang out with her every day :-) |
| 17:19.32 | supernovia | lucky even. |
| 17:19.47 | SunSparc | So true, if only I could hang out with her ALL day. :) |
| 17:20.03 | supernovia | Absence makes the heart grow fonder |
| 17:20.17 | SunSparc | So they say. |
| 17:20.26 | supernovia | as long as it's not too long, right? |
| 17:20.37 | SunSparc | Right :) |
| 17:20.39 | supernovia | speaking of which, I probably ought to tidy myself up before my VT gets here :-D |
| 17:21.01 | supernovia | See you guys in a while! |
| 17:21.05 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 17:29.48 | Dezertol | is there a good clean way of using one gmail account and pulling in email that's going to a google apps business email account? |
| 17:30.16 | Dezertol | looks like I can pop it in if I wan't but it just seems like they would have thought of a better way |
| 17:30.55 | mindjuju | pop is the only way i know of |
| 17:31.05 | SunSparc | yep |
| 17:31.07 | SunSparc | pop |
| 17:31.31 | SunSparc | Unless you set your business account to forward. |
| 17:31.32 | Dezertol | kk |
| 17:32.02 | SunSparc | You can setup your gmail account to send email as any address you want in the settings. That account just has to be able to forward to your gmail account. |
| 17:32.22 | SunSparc | Cool feature, but forwarding can sometimes have issues. |
| 17:35.38 | Dezertol | well.. my boss is freaking out about it |
| 17:35.45 | mindjuju | anybody here using Picasa? |
| 17:35.48 | Dezertol | he sends me the.. "get google apps setup right now" |
| 17:35.56 | Dezertol | and then.. freaks out cuz I changed the mx record |
| 17:36.17 | Dezertol | he of course has no idea what it means to change the mx |
| 17:36.23 | SunSparc | I use Picasa. |
| 17:36.34 | mindjuju | how does picasa compare to flickr? |
| 17:36.49 | mindjuju | do you get to store high res images? |
| 17:36.49 | SunSparc | Picasa is a different model |
| 17:36.52 | mindjuju | flickr was always compressing my images |
| 17:36.55 | SunSparc | Yes, you can store full size. |
| 17:36.57 | mindjuju | NOT pleased |
| 17:37.00 | SunSparc | on Picasa. |
| 17:37.00 | mindjuju | ah cool! |
| 17:37.11 | SunSparc | The Picasa application is amazing. |
| 17:37.16 | mindjuju | does it have public share with rights / permissions? |
| 17:37.23 | SunSparc | Yep |
| 17:37.26 | mindjuju | oh awesome |
| 17:37.35 | SunSparc | You can have private and public stuff. |
| 17:37.57 | mindjuju | but can you say, joe can see this folder, mary can see that and both can see this one? |
| 17:38.20 | SunSparc | Flickr is cool for sharing photos with the public and all, but Picasa is a better all around place for storing, managing, and sharing. |
| 17:38.52 | SunSparc | Yes, can make an album private and only share with certain people. |
| 17:39.15 | SunSparc | You will like it. |
| 17:39.45 | mindjuju | navigating family politics with file access permissions FTW! |
| 17:40.33 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:46.08 | mindjuju | AHHHH!!! stop scanning my hdd! |
| 17:46.29 | SunSparc | heh |
| 17:46.35 | SunSparc | Yeah, it does that. |
| 17:46.44 | SunSparc | But it is not going to move the files. |
| 17:46.57 | mindjuju | k, that's a major usability issue, only giving somebody the choice to scan my documents or their entire hdd |
| 17:47.10 | mindjuju | it needs to have a 3rd option for people who no want that |
| 17:47.30 | SunSparc | :) |
| 17:53.46 | mindjuju | i've got to stop this, its scanning everything, i dont' want to organize everythign in this way |
| 17:54.21 | mgeary | ~run amok on mindjuju's drive |
| 17:54.26 | mindjuju | i only need somethings organized, other things already have an organization |
| 17:54.34 | mindjuju | is there a way to specifiy where and what it scans? |
| 17:54.59 | DexterTheDragon | I've noticed that with photo software, they always want to scan my entire drive, when I only want them playing in my pictures folder |
| 17:55.11 | mindjuju | EXACTLY |
| 17:55.29 | SunSparc | mindjuju: There are some settings you can play with. |
| 17:56.08 | DexterTheDragon | but you have to let it scan for 15 minutes before the program opens for you to mess with settings |
| 18:03.09 | SunSparc | mindjuju: If you don't want to manage your photos, you can just use the web interface. |
| 18:04.46 | SunSparc | There is a Folder Manager that lets you tell Picasa which folders to watch and manage and which you do not want Picasa to have anything to do with. |
| 18:04.52 | Dezertol | ok.. officially... the ssh shell client for the Droid is both cool and awsome but.. trying to code php on it.. isn't much fun |
| 18:08.50 | SunSparc | vim |
| 18:09.02 | SunSparc | ibot, give Dezertol some vim |
| 18:09.02 | ibot | ACTION gives some vim to Dezertol |
| 18:09.12 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: got any christmas techno? |
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| 18:09.56 | Dezertol | lol ya vim is great.. but use the () and ; and && === and stuff get's abit hard on the thumbs |
| 18:10.07 | Dezertol | with a mini key board |
| 18:11.19 | SunSparc | hehe, yeah |
| 18:11.58 | SunSparc | I only do emergency programming or quick fix programming on the iPhone. |
| 18:18.45 | Dezertol | it's nice that I can tether to it.. so.. as long as I got my laptop i'm gtg |
| 18:20.20 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon: Still too early for Christmas techno |
| 18:21.02 | DexterTheDragon | I've been rather humbug so I was like I need some christmas music to get me in the mood |
| 18:21.13 | DexterTheDragon | but then I was like I also need techno |
| 18:21.20 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon: if you find some really good christmas techno let me know |
| 18:21.36 | DexterTheDragon | got some stuff downloading we'll see how it is |
| 18:22.12 | Dezertol | i'm a fan of the somafm.com streams |
| 18:22.24 | Dezertol | they have 2 xmas ones that aren't bad but there not techno |
| 18:22.55 | utahcon | Dezertol: I have a stronger hate for christmas music than I do for... windows... well anything. |
| 18:23.05 | Dezertol | lol |
| 18:23.37 | utahcon | the only exception to that is Josh Groban... I really really really hate that guy. |
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| 19:25.21 | brasto | # /etc/init.d/bind9 restart |
| 19:25.21 | brasto | Stopping domain name service...: bind9rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused |
| 19:25.36 | mgeary | you didn't say please |
| 19:25.42 | mgeary | ~manners brasto |
| 19:25.58 | brasto | when I google for that error, I get a bunch of pages that seem to think the file ownership is wrong |
| 19:26.06 | brasto | oh... ahem... please |
| 19:26.07 | brasto | lol |
| 19:26.46 | brasto | but if I set the file ownership the way the installer wants it (for rndc.key) or for the way the search results say, I get the same error |
| 19:26.49 | brasto | any ideas? |
| 19:27.50 | mgeary | i ran into that once recently as well. i didn't really *fix* the problem, but i shut down bind completely, waited a minute, and then it seems like i was able to start it up again |
| 19:27.57 | mgeary | i was on OS X, so ymmv |
| 19:29.09 | brasto | this server is a Debian server |
| 19:29.26 | brasto | so if you shut it down, it auto starts up in a minute? |
| 19:29.29 | mgeary | no |
| 19:29.32 | mgeary | i started it manually |
| 19:29.34 | mgeary | again, on os x |
| 19:29.34 | brasto | ok |
| 19:30.06 | brasto | well, I'll give that a shot... it's not so complicated a solution if that works... |
| 19:33.15 | mgeary | no guarantees here :) |
| 19:33.31 | mgeary | when it worked for me, it was more voodoo than logic |
| 19:33.41 | mgeary | so, make sure you turn around twice and spit over your left shoulder |
| 19:35.31 | SunSparc | brasto: You running your own bind service? |
| 19:36.46 | brasto | SunSparc: RidgeCrest Herbals is. I'm not for my domains. Too much hassle to me for my domains. |
| 19:37.50 | brasto | well, mgeary I tried the turn around twice and spit over shoulder, and a running man dance (or is it rain man dance?) but no go... |
| 19:38.04 | mgeary | probably didn't have enough saline in your spit |
| 19:38.06 | SunSparc | Ah. They should outsource it. I have been using DNS Made Easy .com for several month now and it make managing DNS a breeze. |
| 19:38.08 | brasto | maybe I'll pat my belly and rub my head when restarting it next time... |
| 19:38.45 | SunSparc | When running my own DNS servers though, I run TinyDNS (aka DJBDNS) |
| 19:40.25 | brasto | SunSparc: they have their domains registered with GoDaddy, and I'd just as soon use their name servers and just point at the servers, but he wants his own. What's odd is it's working fine, I just want to find what the cause of that error is |
| 19:41.50 | SunSparc | Ah |
| 19:42.19 | SunSparc | I second mgeary's advice to ask fungus. |
| 19:43.05 | brasto | fungus is the man, I agree |
| 19:43.28 | brasto | oh, he's totally absent... |
| 19:43.45 | brasto | anyone seen Avatar yet? |
| 19:44.07 | mindjuju | haven't |
| 19:44.23 | mindjuju | i know people who have and say it IS all that and a bag of cips |
| 19:44.31 | mindjuju | chips too |
| 19:44.34 | SunSparc | I have not yet, but everyone I hear who have seen it loved it. |
| 19:44.44 | mindjuju | salt & vinegar chips even |
| 19:44.46 | mgeary | hey |
| 19:44.49 | mgeary | let's not go there |
| 19:44.50 | SunSparc | Mmm..... |
| 19:45.01 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:45.05 | SunSparc | And dill pickle chips too |
| 19:45.16 | mindjuju | dill is good too |
| 19:45.24 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:45.27 | brasto | I've lost 20 pounds... staying away from chips for now is probably a good idea... |
| 19:45.49 | SunSparc | Moderation in all things friend, moderation in all things. |
| 19:46.00 | brasto | s/hungrilly/hungrily/ |
| 19:46.17 | brasto | yes, moderation... I can have one or two chips... lol |
| 19:46.19 | mindjuju | moderation in all thing except celery |
| 19:46.27 | mindjuju | go nuts onthe celery |
| 19:46.28 | SunSparc | lol |
| 19:46.28 | itimber | w/ PB |
| 19:46.36 | mindjuju | nope, no PB |
| 19:46.38 | mindjuju | just celery |
| 19:46.40 | SunSparc | ranch? |
| 19:46.41 | itimber | Peanut Butter ++ |
| 19:46.47 | brasto | and water.... one can drink lots of water... |
| 19:46.55 | mindjuju | i hear you expend more calories consuming and process celery than you get from teh celery |
| 19:47.01 | SunSparc | moderation is different for each thing |
| 19:47.10 | itimber | tis true mindjuju |
| 19:47.56 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:48.16 | brasto | I had a high metabolism until early 30s. Even then I only gained a few pounds each year, so it was slow and snuck up on me until I started seeing pictures of myself a few months ago, and I realized, holy cow... I'm getting pretty fat! |
| 19:48.26 | SunSparc | mgeary: exercise every day and it will stay forever. |
| 19:48.45 | SunSparc | hah |
| 19:48.46 | mgeary | the rest of me is a bit neglected |
| 19:48.46 | brasto | lol |
| 19:48.52 | itimber | haha... fo sho |
| 19:48.53 | SunSparc | fingers of steel!!! |
| 19:49.08 | SunSparc | Taking the mouse for a walk... |
| 19:49.16 | mgeary | however, i'll be 39 next week, and i'm still within 5 pounds of when i was 19 |
| 19:49.37 | SunSparc | Nice |
| 19:49.37 | mindjuju | you're going to be 39? |
| 19:49.39 | mgeary | week from today |
| 19:49.41 | mindjuju | i thought i was oldest |
| 19:49.42 | mindjuju | oh good |
| 19:49.50 | mindjuju | i'm a whipper snapper compared to you |
| 19:49.54 | mgeary | yep |
| 19:50.21 | mindjuju | course i'm not wearing gucci shoes nor driving a BMW and don't run no business |
| 19:50.24 | mindjuju | ...sigh... |
| 19:50.26 | mindjuju | i sux |
| 19:50.30 | brasto | I turned 37 in July |
| 19:50.31 | mgeary | well, i'm 1 out of 3... |
| 19:50.42 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:51.17 | brasto | I touched a BMW once. |
| 19:51.34 | SunSparc | That counts |
| 19:51.34 | mindjuju | i'm not much on name brands, but i hear the BMW maintainence records are great |
| 19:52.02 | mgeary | i'm totally going to get a BMW as my next car... in about 7 years |
| 19:52.29 | mgeary | jeeze |
| 19:52.35 | mgeary | you aim high, doncha SunSparc |
| 19:52.47 | SunSparc | mgeary: High is the only way to aim. |
| 19:53.07 | SunSparc | Why settle for less than you want. :) |
| 19:53.08 | mgeary | i'd love a 3-series convertible, but they don't make a convertible with xDrive, afaik |
| 19:53.20 | mgeary | and you should see the hill i live on |
| 19:53.45 | mgeary | but i'm going to do the whole "go to germany and pick it up" thing... so maybe i can special order it |
| 19:53.56 | mindjuju | that would be awesome |
| 19:54.03 | SunSparc | I took my truck up a hill of ice the other day. Took forever of slipping and sliding. Ridiculous. |
| 19:54.13 | SunSparc | mgeary: That would be awesome. |
| 19:54.23 | SunSparc | I suggested that to my wife while we were there this summer. |
| 19:54.41 | SunSparc | She was not on board. |
| 19:54.42 | SunSparc | heh |
| 19:55.02 | mgeary | you have to order it ~3 months in advance, and then after you've dropped the car off at a shipping point, it takes another 6+ weeks to get back to you |
| 19:55.07 | mgeary | so you need to have some patience... |
| 19:55.18 | mgeary | but i'm totally going to do it |
| 19:58.35 | SunSparc | Sweet |
| 19:58.45 | SunSparc | I hear it is a tad bit cheaper going that route. |
| 19:58.59 | mgeary | it's a lot cheaper |
| 19:59.15 | mgeary | on a ~35k car, you save something like 6k |
| 19:59.17 | mindjuju | heated steering wheel? |
| 19:59.20 | mindjuju | WOW |
| 19:59.26 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:59.41 | SunSparc | Talking brain Jell-O anyone? http://j.mp/5i3Sww |
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| 20:18.05 | SunSparc | Anyone here know of anyone in the Foreign Service? |
| 20:21.33 | mgeary | i do, but they might now be retired |
| 20:21.41 | mgeary | and we haven't spoken for a long time |
| 20:22.08 | SunSparc | It sounds like an interesting line of work. |
| 20:22.18 | mgeary | indeed |
| 20:22.27 | mgeary | i seriously considered it for a time |
| 20:22.36 | mgeary | but i think it could be very hard on your kids |
| 20:22.50 | mgeary | and when you don't have seniority, you get crappy assignments |
| 20:22.53 | SunSparc | I grew up an Army brat so I know how that is true. |
| 20:23.11 | mgeary | granted, the kids of the family i knew were great kids |
| 20:23.16 | SunSparc | I know someone who just joined and I have been reading about it. |
| 20:23.54 | SunSparc | Yeah, it is a hard life, but those difficulties can be amazing growth and educational experiences. |
| 20:24.14 | mgeary | probably forces your family to be close and (hopefully) strong |
| 20:24.26 | SunSparc | I often said I did not want my kids to have the life I had growing up, but I am reconsidering that. |
| 20:24.41 | SunSparc | Yeah, my family members are some of my best friends, because we had to be. |
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| 20:24.54 | SunSparc | Sometimes we were all we had. |
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| 20:40.13 | mindjuju | got this from Jayce^ -- how VERY true -- http://www.sheldoncomics.com/archive/041220.html |
| 20:40.23 | mindjuju | i know people who drink the stuff, it's gross |
| 20:41.13 | wps | I haven't had much of a desire for it lately, but I consumed by the gallon as a youth |
| 20:41.58 | stderr | rum eggnog <3 |
| 20:43.54 | SunSparc | I can only imagine that would taste good. |
| 20:44.27 | brasto | One of my best friends is in the foreign service. |
| 20:44.35 | mgeary | just stick some butter rum lifesavers in your next cup of fum |
| 20:44.44 | SunSparc | brasto: Yes? How do they like it? |
| 20:44.56 | wps | mgeary: fum? |
| 20:44.57 | brasto | When we were in high school, my dad was my bishop, and his dad was the stake president. |
| 20:45.03 | brasto | he loves it |
| 20:45.04 | mgeary | hahahah |
| 20:45.12 | brasto | and his children seem to be doing really well. |
| 20:45.13 | mgeary | fum == eggnog, apparently |
| 20:45.46 | SunSparc | brasto: Do you know what he does for the Foreign Service? What his actual job is? |
| 20:46.59 | brasto | it has to do with computers. He worked in Jerusalem for some time. Now he's somewhere else... I forget where. |
| 20:47.34 | brasto | They flew from half way around the world (he and his family) to see me during my wife's funeral. How's that for friendship! |
| 20:47.40 | mindjuju | hmm, wonder what this guy is smiling about? http://i.imgur.com/6MX70.jpg |
| 20:47.59 | SunSparc | brasto: That is awesome. |
| 20:48.31 | mindjuju | i guess i should post a pNSFW warning on that last link in the same way NatGeo could have an image that could be construed as questionable |
| 20:49.40 | brasto | lol, mindjuju. it didn't show anything, but the guy on the bike sure saw something... |
| 20:49.48 | mindjuju | yup |
| 20:49.55 | mindjuju | he's got that goofy grin on |
| 20:51.08 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Perhaps the person he past made a funny face. |
| 20:58.13 | mgeary | anyone here use MediaTemple or know anything about "privvmpages" ? |
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| 21:00.33 | mgeary | it appears my client is hitting some sort of memory/resource barrier |
| 21:13.39 | justincarmony | hola hola |
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| 21:34.29 | DexterTheDragon | why it's better to pretend you don't know anything about computers http://theoatmeal.com/comics/computers |
| 21:40.23 | SunSparc | lol, too true |
| 21:51.55 | redroy | DexterTheDragon: awesome |
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| 22:22.36 | SunSparc | justincarmony: We used to use Trac, but we have completely switched over to Unfuddle and love it. |
| 22:23.29 | mgeary | hrm |
| 22:23.34 | mgeary | SunSparc: tell us more |
| 22:24.22 | SunSparc | More |
| 22:24.33 | SunSparc | :) |
| 22:24.39 | SunSparc | What would you like to know? |
| 22:24.46 | SunSparc | Unfuddle is a hosted solution. |
| 22:25.24 | SunSparc | After hosting all our own stuff and managing it all we have moved as many solutions out of house as possible so we can focus on our specialties. |
| 22:25.50 | mgeary | well, for example, i get 320 gigs of svn hosting at dreamhost for $99/year. doesn't look like that's even possible with unfuddle, at any price |
| 22:25.53 | SunSparc | Unfuddle does svn and git repo hosting but also includes time and ticket tracking with customer access. |
| 22:26.09 | mgeary | so the svn hosting clearly isn't where the value lies |
| 22:26.16 | mgeary | maybe it's different with git, dunno |
| 22:26.17 | SunSparc | Absolutely it is. |
| 22:26.31 | justincarmony | hrm |
| 22:26.34 | mgeary | so is the primary value the issue tracking & customer access? |
| 22:26.36 | SunSparc | What are you checking into your repos? Movies, TIFF, and PDF files? |
| 22:27.03 | SunSparc | The primary value is that we do not manage the service. |
| 22:27.29 | SunSparc | We do not worry about the machines the service is on, the versions of the software, etc. |
| 22:27.32 | SunSparc | We just use it. |
| 22:27.35 | SunSparc | Ahhhhh |
| 22:28.44 | SunSparc | At one point we were running out of space and realized that people were checking media into the repo's. We put a stop to that. No need for it. |
| 22:29.07 | mgeary | yes, but you should never use the "we'll never need that much space" argument in a case like this |
| 22:29.14 | mgeary | we all know how that will eventually end |
| 22:29.37 | mgeary | you can argue convenience, or even 'good enough for us', but not, 'psh. that's silly, we'll never need that much space' |
| 22:29.39 | SunSparc | Oh, we ran out of space and upgraded. Unfuddle was very accommodating. |
| 22:30.23 | mgeary | i'd think, though, that svn hosting would essentially be a loss-leading freebie, though, for a provider like unfuddle |
| 22:31.05 | SunSparc | Could be. I am not sure if they do anything else or are part of any large organization. |
| 22:40.51 | mindjuju | sunsparc - soccer miss - http://www.break.com/index/worst-soccer-shot-miss-of-all-time.html |
| 22:41.37 | SunSparc | heh, yeah, I have seen that. Poor guy. He is actually really good. |
| 22:41.57 | mindjuju | further in the video, there is a clip of him making a cool shot |
| 22:42.09 | SunSparc | Yeah |
| 22:54.32 | whiteinge | Is jsdoc the defacto way to document your JavaScript? |
| 22:55.27 | whiteinge | I see jsdoc-looking markup in a wide variety of libraries, I just don't know if there are competing standards. |
| 22:57.21 | DexterTheDragon | whiteinge: I've never seen any standards for documenting js |
| 23:02.38 | mindjuju | i can't believe he did this on $300 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dadPWhEhVk&feature=player_embedded |
| 23:04.00 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: it took $300 to shoot the live action, it took a year and thousands of dollars of software to do the VFX |
| 23:04.31 | mindjuju | that sounds more believable |
| 23:04.42 | mindjuju | where'd you read that at? |
| 23:04.55 | DexterTheDragon | http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=154&t=822329&highlight=big+robots |
| 23:05.41 | DexterTheDragon | I also think the VFX is kinda meh, their good but could be composited better |
| 23:05.55 | DexterTheDragon | but I do want to get the $30 mil contract he got |
| 23:06.46 | mindjuju | 30 mil would be awesome, or even just an email from Sam Ramai saying i had mad skillz |
| 23:07.00 | mindjuju | ooo, i misspelled that |
| 23:08.27 | mindjuju | DtD - did you see this? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0434020/ |
| 23:08.52 | DexterTheDragon | yeah there was talks of remaking it |
| 23:09.03 | mindjuju | scary |
| 23:09.16 | DexterTheDragon | last I'd heard they got such an uproar from fans that they had gone back to wanting to do a 4th one |
| 23:09.27 | DexterTheDragon | but thats been delayed by Sam working on spiderman |
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| 23:37.57 | redroy | Did anyone see Avatar...? I thought it was awesome |
| 23:40.12 | jtsnow | Avatar was really good |
| 23:40.25 | stderr | going on Wednesday |
| 23:40.27 | jtsnow | predictable, but good |
| 23:40.42 | stderr | company sponsored movies in the early afternoon \m/ |
| 23:41.36 | redroy | I was pretty surprised at how much I liked it... had no expectations. My daughter wanted to see it so we went. |
| 23:42.34 | mgeary | ~kk |
| 23:42.35 | ibot | it has been said that kk is mgeary's favorite saying, or for thebigdog's benefit |
| 23:42.45 | mindjuju | url as in "earl"? |
| 23:42.49 | mgeary | yeah |
| 23:43.06 | mindjuju | i think they need a kick in the crouch |
| 23:43.15 | mgeary | like people who pronounce "mysql" as "my sequel" instead of "my S-Q-L" |
| 23:44.02 | mindjuju | i used to do that a long time ago only because ms sql wants to be sequel |
| 23:44.11 | mgeary | yeah |
| 23:44.14 | mindjuju | and didn't realize mySQL wanted to be S Q L |
| 23:44.22 | mindjuju | but after i got that squared away, i'm good |
| 23:44.28 | mgeary | it doesn't *really* bother me, i'm just grumping |
| 23:44.44 | mindjuju | your age is showing |
| 23:44.45 | mindjuju | hehe |
| 23:44.55 | mgeary | ~curmudgeon mgeary |
| 23:45.18 | mindjuju | we'll have to throw you a 40th next year |
| 23:45.36 | mgeary | groan |
| 23:50.08 | mindjuju | based on the several occassions we have met, i can't imagine you getting too agnry or mad |
| 23:50.24 | mindjuju | ah, too funny |
| 23:52.26 | mindjuju | sunsparc, you around? |
| 23:53.02 | mindjuju | sunsparc -> PM |
