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| 00:15.30 | Utah_Dave | Hmm. Gotta finish up my Christmas list |
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| 01:37.16 | sontek | Hey, any of you guys know any graphic designers that might be willing to trade some backend code work for some frontend design? :) |
| 01:37.51 | sontek | I need some graphics done (I can write the html/css) and willing to help the designer with his own projects in return |
| 02:17.22 | wps | I wouldn't be interested in trade, sontek, but I might be interested in some design work if you wanted to work the price into your bill |
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| 02:47.55 | nvrpunk | does anyone know of a good pre-existing function to re-encode and entire XML file before parsing it? |
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| 04:03.44 | nvrpunk | ugh |
| 04:03.55 | nvrpunk | does anyone know how to get special characters to display right? |
| 04:04.12 | nvrpunk | i have an xml i am parsing and I am set to UTF-8 with BOM |
| 04:04.25 | nvrpunk | but I cannot get any of the special characters to display |
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| 15:39.42 | mindjuju | ~lart utah_dave and his banker hours |
| 15:39.42 | ibot | rm -rf's utah_dave and his banker hours |
| 15:53.35 | orsonj | two good things I found over the weekend: |
| 15:53.37 | orsonj | http://www.gizmag.com/rollator-treadmill-wheels/13567/ |
| 15:53.50 | orsonj | http://twitter.com/newlywedsontjob |
| 15:59.09 | swb | heh, now that's a use of twitter I hadn't thought of |
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| 16:09.38 | mindjuju | that's funny orsonj |
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| 16:10.01 | mgeary | hey folks |
| 16:10.25 | mindjuju | hi mgeary |
| 16:11.18 | sontek | :) hello there |
| 16:15.06 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: I am wearing a hawaiian shirt! How'd you know? |
| 16:15.37 | Utah_Dave | Just found out that our new DS3 has been approved. |
| 16:15.54 | mindjuju | just imagining what life must be like for utah_Dave |
| 16:16.00 | mindjuju | fast lane / gravy train |
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| 16:46.27 | mgeary | anyone here own an ATV? |
| 16:46.58 | mindjuju | i wish |
| 16:47.15 | mindjuju | i haven't really driven one, but i hear they are great for plowing snow |
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| 17:12.27 | swb | need small tractor for plowing snow |
| 17:12.47 | swb | currently have large snow blower, but small tractor sounds like way more fun :) |
| 17:15.41 | justincarmony | haha |
| 17:15.43 | justincarmony | I want one two |
| 17:15.56 | justincarmony | although my tiny strip of driveway would take 4 seconds with it |
| 17:16.11 | utahcon | justincarmony: that means you don't need a coat! |
| 17:16.24 | justincarmony | lol, true |
| 17:16.40 | justincarmony | man, I spent 20 minutes yesterday shoveling *heavy* snow |
| 17:16.45 | justincarmony | I was tired after that |
| 17:16.59 | mgeary | yeah, that was some way heavy snow |
| 17:17.04 | mgeary | my snow blower couldn't move it |
| 17:17.22 | justincarmony | I seriously spent the next few hours on thinking of ways to prevent snow from sticking to my driveway |
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| 17:18.33 | justincarmony | like having a metal driveway that can run warm water through tubes inside of it |
| 17:18.48 | mindjuju | show off |
| 17:19.12 | mindjuju | they just redid my drive way like 6 months before i bought it, that would have been the perfect time to run those pipes |
| 17:19.22 | mindjuju | but alas, they were short sighted |
| 17:20.16 | beandog | mindjuju: pingeh |
| 17:20.18 | beandog | pm? |
| 17:20.57 | mindjuju | sure |
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| 17:22.57 | mindjuju | i could really be Mr. Plow! - http://www.rocky-road.com/grandsnowplow.html |
| 17:24.21 | DexterTheDragon | Call Mr. Plow, That's my name, That name again Is Mr. Plow. |
| 17:24.51 | mindjuju | DtD - you rock! |
| 17:24.56 | mindjuju | ~DtD++ |
| 17:26.34 | justincarmony | http://www.warmyourfloor.com/Promelt.aspx |
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| 17:30.03 | mindjuju | this is sad on so many levels |
| 17:30.03 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OU4K_JAkC30&NR=1&feature=fvwp |
| 17:30.38 | DexterTheDragon | pffft |
| 17:30.54 | DexterTheDragon | I retrofited a lawnmower to blow snow once |
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| 17:31.54 | mindjuju | lawn mower or leaf blower? |
| 17:32.13 | DexterTheDragon | lawn mower |
| 17:32.58 | mindjuju | DtD - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebnFLEea9SE&feature=related |
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| 17:44.45 | brasto | hey guys, I'm trying to figure out a dns issue. We had sbrx.com working, and made some changes for mail delivery. When I run whois, I get the right authoritative name servers. When I dig the primary name server (dig @rc4.sbrx.com sbrx.com), I get what I'm expecting: 30 rc4.sbrx.com, 40 ns1.sbrx.com, and 50 ns2.sbrx.com. However, after a few days, I ran dig mx sbrx.com on my web server, and it still didn't have the right dns info, though the ttl is far les |
| 17:45.28 | brasto | When I dig @ns1.google.com -t mx sbrx.com, it does not have the dns info for mx records. |
| 17:45.35 | brasto | and it's now been a week. |
| 17:46.02 | brasto | Why would some name servers have the correct info, and some not across the web? |
| 17:47.06 | macnewbold | brasto: it may be that one of the auth. name servers didn't get updated, |
| 17:47.18 | macnewbold | or it could be that some other server closer to your web server thinks it is authoritative |
| 17:47.43 | macnewbold | or that there are /etc/hosts entries messing things up, or a machine that thinks it is receiving mail for the domain |
| 17:51.36 | fungus | brasto, you have several problems |
| 17:51.53 | fungus | 1. ns1 and ns2 fail to respond to queries. (SERVFAIL) |
| 17:52.21 | fungus | Whois shows your 3rd nameserver to be rc1.sbrx.com |
| 17:52.37 | fungus | 2. Name servers reported by rc1 do not match whois |
| 17:53.17 | fungus | 3. Authority records returned do not match whois. |
| 17:54.13 | brasto | ah, I queried rc4 when I meant to query rc1, too... |
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| 17:55.30 | fungus | brasto, only the nameservers mentioned in whois should return authoritative records. |
| 17:56.04 | brasto | recursion requested but not available... that's the warning on the ns1 and ns2 sbrx servers. Should I google that error? |
| 17:56.05 | fungus | meaning RC4 should *not* have a zone for sbrx.com |
| 17:56.10 | macnewbold | brasto: it can be really useful to try http://squish.net/dnscheck/ |
| 17:56.45 | fungus | brasto, NS1 and NS2 are broken |
| 17:56.48 | brasto | i'll check that tool out, remove the zone info from rc4 and find out what's going on with ns1 and ns2 |
| 17:57.43 | brasto | however, if one zone of the 3 authoritative name servers returns what it should, shouldn't other name servers pick up what's on the one working name server? I |
| 17:57.54 | brasto | Isn't that the point of having multiple name servers? |
| 17:58.15 | fungus | Yes, but it's returning goofy results too |
| 17:58.30 | mgeary | ~poison brasto's DNS cache |
| 17:58.31 | ibot | ACTION brews up the best industrial metal cleaner and injects a precise measure into brasto's DNS cache |
| 17:59.05 | brasto | lol, well at least I can claim that I didn't do the zone files. |
| 17:59.18 | brasto | alright, looks like I'm on track. Thanks guys. |
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| 19:12.58 | jsmith | ~literal buy |
| 19:13.42 | jsmith | ~rlart |
| 19:13.43 | ibot | gets a hotmal account and SPAMs DexterTheDragon |
| 19:14.09 | DexterTheDragon | ~dtdhit jsmith |
| 19:14.10 | ibot | ACTION stikes at jsmith with the evil rooster chop causing a very bad flesh wound! |
| 19:15.30 | jsmith | Sorry DexterTheDragon... I was just trying to make sure ibot was alive |
| 19:18.28 | macnewbold | anyone in here happen to use CakePHP? I've got a Media view that is handing off ZIP files, but when windows clients download them, they often come out different than the original file, and I have no idea why. |
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| 19:24.25 | beandog | macnewbold: pm |
| 19:24.35 | macnewbold | beandog: sure |
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| 19:32.52 | henny19 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:34.48 | macnewbold | henny19: wordpress |
| 19:35.14 | jsmith | henny19: Wordpress, Drupal, and Joomla are probably the most common |
| 19:36.20 | henny19 | i often use joolmal but i was thinking its a bit over the top and i dont want to use templates as such just make some bits editable |
| 19:36.39 | jtsnow | Drupal++ |
| 19:36.55 | brasto | $du -sh .thunderbird/ |
| 19:36.55 | brasto | 7.9G .thunderbird/ |
| 19:37.11 | brasto | how's that possible when: 1) I use IMAP |
| 19:37.27 | brasto | and 2) grand total of folders on server is just over 100 megs... |
| 19:37.55 | brasto | IMAP should save space since it leaves it on the server |
| 19:38.31 | SunSparc | brasto: IMAP saves it in both places |
| 19:39.29 | brasto | That seems to defeat the purpose of IMAP. The whole point of IMAP for me was that I wanted it saved on the server. |
| 19:41.03 | brasto | I also have it set to use only up to 50 MB for cache. |
| 19:42.19 | SunSparc | The purpose of IMAP is to make it more efficient to access your mail with multiple clients. |
| 19:42.44 | SunSparc | You want to save it all on the server, logged onto the server via CLI and type pine. |
| 19:42.45 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:43.25 | macnewbold | brasto: I think imap caches locally |
| 19:43.32 | macnewbold | for performance purposes |
| 19:43.43 | macnewbold | in any case, 7.9G is a whole lotta email |
| 19:44.13 | brasto | yea, especially considering I only have 100 megs of email, not 7.9 gigs |
| 19:44.17 | SunSparc | Yeah, sounds like that mailbox is being used for more than just email. You doing FTP transactions with that? |
| 19:44.46 | SunSparc | Large PDF and PSD file attachements? |
| 19:45.14 | macnewbold | or ZIPs? |
| 19:45.26 | brasto | the thing I'm really annoyed with is that I moved 35 gigs of music off my hard drive to a remote drive to make space and spent hours telling Banshee the new location of all the data and making sure it had the ratings carried over, only to find out that I could have kept it all on my hard drive if I'd have found out Thunderbird was using so much space. |
| 19:45.41 | brasto | nope, no ftp transactions |
| 19:45.46 | brasto | I only use thunderbird for email |
| 19:45.56 | brasto | I'm using the 3.0 beta though. |
| 19:46.44 | macnewbold | i'd look at the full output of du -ck .thunderbird/ | sort -n and start deleting the biggest offenders |
| 19:47.23 | macnewbold | in my (old) .thunderbird there are files in .thunderbird/<randomcrap>.default/ImapMail/<servername> |
| 19:47.34 | macnewbold | you could probably nuke some of that and be fine |
| 19:47.42 | macnewbold | it might whine a bit when you first boot back up |
| 19:47.52 | macnewbold | or rather, when you restart thunderbird |
| 19:51.00 | brasto | yea, clearing the cache does nothing. |
| 19:55.14 | beandog | anyone know a way to test RSS locally |
| 19:55.22 | beandog | or just validate the feeds |
| 19:55.48 | mindjuju | beandog - i use http://validator.w3.org/feed/ |
| 19:55.59 | beandog | right, I need something on my box though |
| 19:56.05 | beandog | the feed isn't accessible online |
| 19:56.07 | mindjuju | ohhhh |
| 19:56.17 | mindjuju | isn't there a tab on there though |
| 19:56.40 | mindjuju | the one that says direct input |
| 19:57.01 | mindjuju | not-withstanding-that, i also have xmlspy |
| 20:03.06 | SunSparc | Mmmmmm, smores |
| 20:03.26 | utahcon | WIN!!! Core Fusion Technology http://www.microsmores.com/how.html |
| 20:05.34 | romanovic | Haha. In 20 years, we will tell our children stories about how Core Fusion Technology did not exist when we were growing up |
| 20:08.33 | romanovic | with such primitive microwave oven technology |
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| 20:10.37 | SunSparc | Sweet! I need to get me some Core Fusion Technology |
| 20:16.51 | mindjuju | i'd rather have an easy bake oven |
| 20:19.18 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:19.22 | mindjuju | ~apb tierra |
| 20:19.23 | ibot | ACTION hires Leland to spray mace at tierra |
| 20:19.23 | SunSparc | Who wouldn't |
| 20:21.49 | SunSparc | I never really found a good Music app that I really like on Linux. |
| 20:22.16 | SunSparc | Most unfortunate. |
| 20:22.19 | mindjuju | wine + winamp? |
| 20:22.39 | SunSparc | Winamp was alright, but it bugged me. |
| 20:23.01 | utahcon | winamp died in my eyes years ago |
| 20:23.07 | utahcon | iTunes is not Linux friendly |
| 20:23.11 | mindjuju | and replaced with what? |
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| 20:23.39 | mindjuju | and really, how can it die? what did you want music player to do? your laundry? |
| 20:23.55 | mindjuju | play music, play vids, its great! |
| 20:24.10 | utahcon | mindjuju: when it left the 3.x versions |
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| 20:25.09 | SunSparc | On Windows I really liked Sonique ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonique_(media_player) ), but it died. |
| 20:26.28 | utahcon | although I didn't care for either of them last I tried them |
| 20:26.53 | mindjuju | anybody know if there are any problems with doing multiple instances of mediawiki using the same source? |
| 20:27.11 | mindjuju | i've loaded it up twice on a server before, now i want to consolidate if it doesn't impact negatively |
| 20:27.39 | utahcon | mindjuju: ask in #mediawiki |
| 20:31.57 | tierra | mindjuju: sup? |
| 20:36.53 | mindjuju | hey tierra, i was wondering about running multiple instances of mediawiki on a server, but somebody in #mediawiki pointed me to this |
| 20:36.53 | mindjuju | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Wiki_family |
| 20:37.22 | mindjuju | now we're all speculating on why it is google doesn't give mediawiki good love since this didn't come up when i quried, and others there noticed the same thing on other issues |
| 20:37.57 | mindjuju | all that to say, i think im fine now |
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| 20:57.26 | tierra | well, the page isn't exactly SEO friendly, heh |
| 20:57.33 | tierra | er, page title |
| 20:58.29 | tierra | I do run multiple wikis on the same server, but it's only two of them, and I don't do anything special other than different DB prefixes |
| 21:06.03 | tierra | I wish MediaWiki had a maintenance script for cleaning up registered users... one wiki of mine has 5,000+ registered users, but only about 1,500 of those are actual real registrations, the rest are all obviously spambot accounts |
| 21:06.26 | mgeary | yeah, that's why i stopped using MW |
| 21:06.47 | SunSparc | mgeary: You should use MW2 |
| 21:06.50 | tierra | I have my own custom spam filtering technique that works amazingly well |
| 21:06.56 | mgeary | i stopped needing to use a wiki :) |
| 21:07.11 | SunSparc | MW2 is not a wiki. |
| 21:07.19 | tierra | but it doesn't stop bots from registering users (even though my wiki is open to anonymous edits), it just stops them from editing pages |
| 21:16.57 | SunSparc | Would you like to play a game? |
| 21:17.02 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 21:34.53 | Utah_Dave | utahcon: I use Songbird quite a bit. It's pretty good, although not the music listening nirvana I'm looking for. |
| 21:36.22 | romanovic | mgeary: examine the templates yet? |
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| 21:50.43 | mgeary | romanovic: yep |
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| 23:27.16 | beandog | hokie day |
| 23:27.19 | beandog | I'm done for the day |
| 23:27.32 | beandog | Anyone wanna do a test run on my new site? :D |
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| 23:30.02 | stderr | beandog: soitenly. |
| 23:30.21 | beandog | stderr: k, pm |
| 23:30.39 | stderr | waiting for my awesome ActiveResource hack to prove it's worth, may as well fill the time with a lil browsing. |