IRC log for #uphpu on 20091118

00:28.47thebigdogthey're my primary slaves
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00:47.14mindjuju1~apb dexterthedragon
00:47.15ibotACTION hires Tim to spray mace at dexterthedragon
00:47.49mindjuju1hi fungus
00:47.55fungusmornin'
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00:48.27mgearyanyone here ever worked with the Google Maps api?
00:48.43mindjuju1yes
00:48.48mindjuju1now let me think who it was
00:48.59mindjuju1i want to say it was dataw0lf that did
00:49.04mindjuju1err, stderr
00:49.18fungusI started to, but stopped as the project took another direction.
00:49.22mindjuju1i remember the app, something with flags marking locations
00:49.27jtsnowI have done some work with it
00:49.29mindjuju1and there was something special about the flags
00:49.39mindjuju1good to know jtsnow
00:50.35mgearyso, i need to pull from google a numeric equivalent to the on-graphic scale
00:51.03mgearyfor example, if the on-screen scale says one inch equals 200 feet, i want some sort of numeric version of that
00:51.15mgearysomething a computer can read. a computer can't read/interpret that on-screen scale :(
00:51.33jtsnowah
00:52.11mgearyone particular problem is that different geographic areas have different image data available, so you cannot make assumptions based on the current zoom level
00:53.04jtsnowI was about to say... zoom level is the closest thing I know of
00:53.06fungusmgeary, you may be able to calculate it with getBounds() and getSize() or getZoom()
00:54.15mgearymaybe
00:54.42mgearyif i knew that the image was X-degrees latitude across, and the image was 500 pixels wide...
00:54.54mgearyanyone know how to convert latitude degrees into feet?
00:55.20mgearyhttp://bytes.com/topic/visual-basic-net/answers/368097-distance-formula-long-lat-coord
00:58.58Utah_Dave1Has anybody noticed that Google Voice has an option to add your Google Talk account as a phone?
00:59.07Utah_Dave1I added mine, but I can't get it to verify
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01:04.12thebigdogmgeary: what are you trying to do with lat/lon?
01:04.39mgearyi'm importing a google map image into an app, and i need to scale the imported image properly relative to other items on screen
01:06.25thebigdogin feet?
01:06.29mgearysure
01:06.36mgearyi just need a relative value
01:06.49mgearyso if the other items on screen are at one screen inch = 100 feet
01:07.01mgearyi'd need to scale the google map image appropriately
01:08.02thebigdogso what numbers do you have to work with
01:08.28mgearywhatever google will give me
01:08.30mgearywhich appears to just be the latitude distances, but that should do it
01:08.35mgearyi've got to go, but i think i found some conversions that should make it work
01:08.42thebigdogok
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01:24.11DexterTheDragon~bdhit mindjuju1
01:24.12ibotACTION gives mindjuju1 the Priest Flip of the Blessed Foulness
01:30.18Utah_Dave~whaleslap mindjuju1
01:30.19ibotACTION beats mindjuju1 upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh
01:31.11mindjuju1all this anger and hostility !
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01:34.04beandogI just noticed I have some Google voice invites if someone wants one
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02:01.51Utah_DaveThis regex site is really helpful:  http://www.txt2re.com/
02:05.49DexterTheDragonUtah_Dave: saw that today. they need a better interface
02:07.43Utah_DaveYeah, it's not the prettiest
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05:02.49justincarmonyWhile I love my macbook..... I Don't think I'm going to get another macbook again :P
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07:08.45mgearyanyone around
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15:09.36utahconso not right... vending machines are out of all caffeinated beverages.
15:13.31herlohaha
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15:35.20stderrAnyone see the meteor explosion last night?
15:37.31orsonjnope
15:49.35utahcon~fart herlo
15:49.36ibotACTION farts in herlo's general direction
15:49.48utahconIt was so bad I had to run to McDonalds for a fix.
15:49.53utahconmmmm caffeine!
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16:14.12thebigdogmgeary did you get your lat/lon stuff working
16:14.23mgearythebigdog: no, need to do that today
16:14.43thebigdoglet me know if you need help
16:19.31mgearythanks
16:37.21utahconDexterTheDragon: fish stores? you looking for something special?
16:37.46DexterTheDragonutahcon: no just a local fish store
16:37.51_psychic_there's a pretty good sushi place I know of here in AF
16:37.53utahconwhat you've learned and
16:38.12utahconhttp://lmgtfy.com/?q=fish+stores+in+utah
16:38.36utahcon;)
16:39.07DexterTheDragonand you will see those are all in the salt lake area
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16:42.05utahconyour fault you aren't really "local"
16:56.10herlo~simpsons utahcon
16:56.10ibotACTION sends utahcon chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!"
16:56.19utahconlove that episode
16:56.42herlowasn't it the movie?
16:58.43utahconI don't recall that gag in the movie.
16:58.53utahconSadly I thought the movie was lame.
17:00.52mgearythebigdog: so did you see that what i saw last night was a meteor?
17:01.37thebigdogno i did not
17:01.43mgearyhttp://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=8714738
17:01.47thebigdogthat is awesome
17:02.10mgearyit was crazy
17:05.13utahconwhoa
17:06.23mgearyutahcon: you snooze, you lose, dude
17:06.36utahconexplains why the son woke up
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17:40.38Lone_Wanderermindjuju1: I registered upmp.org - Utah Programmer Mentoring Project
17:53.18mgearyU-pimp?
17:53.36Lone_Wanderer>.> you found my hidden message!
17:55.19unummake sure you put "under construction"
17:55.40Lone_WandererOh yeah.  With a little animated image of a guy digging.
17:55.50unumthat will make it stand out
18:02.35utahconLone_Wanderer: what project?
18:03.23mindjuju1Lone_Wanderer - just saw your email
18:03.40mindjuju1did you know that macnewbold, mgeary are busienss owners
18:03.45mindjuju1business even
18:04.20mindjuju1macnewbold you knew, but didn't know if you knew mgeary
18:04.26mindjuju1let's see, o
18:04.29mindjuju1itimber is
18:04.39Lone_Wandererutahcon: Utah Programmer Mentoring Project.  We've got a really good community of programmers in Utah, and I figure some of them would be willing to volunteer to mentor new programmers.
18:04.44Lone_Wandererdidn't know about mgeary
18:04.44mindjuju1bigdog_ut was, don't know if he still is
18:04.57mindjuju1on mentoring project, that's awesome!
18:05.11Lone_WandererYeah, your book collection thing reminded me of it.
18:05.37mindjuju1carmony i think has a private consulting firm, i don't know if it qualifies as big enough
18:05.50utahconLone_Wanderer: url?
18:06.16Lone_Wandererstill setting up the web site, but the url is upmp.org
18:06.22Lone_Wandererthere's nothing there right now
18:07.02utahconLone_Wanderer: where you planning to host the site?
18:07.45Lone_Wandereron my linode server
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18:08.20unumlinode++
18:08.38SunSparcaws++
18:09.02Lone_Wandererokay, why can't I change my nameservers?  I hate GoDaddy.
18:09.16SunSparc~GoDaddy--
18:09.33fungusmy fan on my server at home is making lots of noise.  Makes me want to re-evaluate the whole self-hosting idea.
18:10.01SunSparcI have changed nameservers on GoDaddy hosted names.
18:10.17SunSparcLone_Wanderer: What is the problem you are having?
18:10.49SunSparcfungus: a noisy fan is enough to drive one mad.
18:10.52fungusespecially since the power costs alone are about as much as a linode
18:11.03utahcondo it fungus !
18:11.06utahconget a linode!
18:11.09Lone_WandererTrying to set the nameserver to linode's but the field where it lists the nameservers can't be edited
18:11.21Lone_Wandererit looks like a normal text field but you can't change it =(
18:11.47fungusEC2 is too pricey for my needs, and way over powered.
18:12.08SunSparcYeah, that could be.
18:12.29SunSparcWhat are your needs?  Perhaps you only need a VPS.
18:13.25fungusmy needs are just for my own experiments.  nothing big at all.
18:13.34fungusoh, and my custom mail solution.
18:13.56mgearyfungus: just get a Mac Mini
18:14.00utahconcustom mail solution?
18:14.01mgearythey're great home servers
18:14.04utahconwhat are you doing?
18:14.09SunSparcMac Mini++
18:14.26fungusI have a databased backed virtual alias list for a domain.
18:14.32utahconSunSparc: why not a Dell Zino HD, you can put Linux on it :D
18:14.37funguseach alias I create has a self expiry timer.
18:14.57SunSparcutahcon: Heh, you can put Linux on anything.
18:14.57fungusSo I can create one off email addresses on the fly
18:16.56mindjuju1have y'all seen al fraken draw the US?  i thought he was a bit goofy on SNL, but this is pretty cool - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0-FYyuvrRk
18:18.13SunSparcWTH!  How did he do that?
18:18.21mgearypsh. his New Mexico sucks
18:18.24mgeary;)
18:18.29SunSparclol
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18:18.35mgearyand his Alaska is totally not to scale
18:18.40mindjuju1:)
18:19.36SunSparc:)
18:19.37mindjuju1:)
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18:32.38utahconfungus: I use gmail to make 1 off email addresses on the fly
18:32.59fungushow do you do that?  API?
18:33.13mindjuju1i think you just add a +
18:33.24mindjuju1or was it a period ?
18:36.29DexterTheDragonits a plus
18:37.07DexterTheDragonunfortionately there's a lot of website "validations" out there that don't accept + as valid in an email
18:42.48mgearyyeah. i use an underscore
18:44.29fungustoo bad the free Google Apps doesn't support the provisioning API.  That would be a handy way to do that.
18:48.45mindjuju1DtD - the mario is ok, but Half-Life 2 NES Castlevannia mod is awesome - http://kotaku.com/5406072/look-out-hes-got-a-piece--half+life-2-mods-mario-castlevania
18:51.27utahconfungus: I use a normal Gmail account for it...
18:51.36utahconalthough I think Apps accounts include the same + hack
18:51.38utahconlet me test it
18:51.48fungusyes the + hack works
18:51.57utahconwell then there you go
18:52.33fungusthat could work for me...
18:52.55Lone_WandererI recommend them.
18:53.02unumso do I
18:53.04Lone_WandererThey've got a good community and an irc support channel.
18:53.13mindjuju1all the cool kids have linode
18:53.15utahconof course if you are the only one on the domain you could also setup company@yourdomain.com and have it all collect in your catch asll
18:53.23utahcons/asll/all/
18:53.25unum$20 a month for a remote server
18:53.45unumhow can you not want that
18:53.49Lone_WandererI wish gmail could handle multiple gmail accounts without logging out and in.
18:54.02Lone_Wanderer'cause I've got dcrookston.com's mail going to gmail's servers but I never check it
18:54.12Lone_Wandererand I want to do the same thing with upmp's mail
18:54.31unumI should set up the catch all on one of my domains so I can give out unique emails when it's convenient
18:54.37fungusI use multiple gmail accounts w/o problem
18:54.44fungusI got two open right now.
18:55.09unumone on his android an the other on his iphone
18:55.27Lone_WandererTwo tabs, fungus?
18:55.30fungusyup
18:55.35Lone_WandererI meant on the same window but that works too.
18:55.48fungusahh.  I like to keep them separate.
18:55.52Lone_WandererBut when I open a new tab and go to gmail, I get the same account I'm already on.
18:55.53fungusWork vs. personal
18:56.12fungusoh, they are both Google Apps, not @gmail.com
18:56.23fungustwo gmail.com accounts won't work
18:56.24Lone_Wandererahh ok
18:56.39Lone_Wandererwell the other one is google apps so
18:56.45Lone_Wandererit should work alongside my gmail account
18:56.49fungusyup
18:56.52Lone_Wandererdon't remember how to get to it though >.>
18:57.01fungusjust log in normally
18:57.11Lone_Wandererright but I mean
18:57.19Lone_WandererI don't remember how to get to the login page
18:57.31fungushttps://mail.google.com/a/sosstaffing.com/
18:57.41funguswell, replace your domain name obviously
18:57.45Lone_Wandereryeah
18:57.47Lone_Wanderercool thanks :)
18:58.14Lone_Wandererwhee, it works
18:58.57fungusyou can also setup shortcut URLs on your domain that point to these.
18:59.17fungusSee the "Change URL" for each app in the management interface
18:59.27Lone_Wandererk
19:00.08funguseg. gmail.sosstaffing.com
19:07.37fungusanyone have a linode referral code for me to use?
19:08.42utahconfungus: of course
19:09.03dezertolc72cd2a5f477e2c18bea8e5965d8362eed2995ac
19:09.07dezertollol that's mine ;-)
19:09.18utahconfungus: f1e89a2a5a7e6c6372241010c3711ba8a846022d
19:09.18utahcon:D
19:09.55fungusthanks
19:10.25dezertoli'm not sure which one of you guys turned me onto linode but it's save me a lot of time and headaches so far
19:10.28dezertolit's been great
19:15.08utahconagreed
19:15.11Lone_Wandereranyone here in Utah Valley?
19:15.21Lone_Wandererlooks like there's going to be a pho lunch in a bit here
19:15.22mindjuju1y
19:15.34mgearyLone_Wanderer: i am, and that's just down the street from me
19:15.42mgearybut, ick. Thai food... :P
19:15.45Lone_Wanderersweet, you want to join us?
19:15.48Lone_Wanderercome on man, it's PHO
19:15.55mgearyick
19:15.59Lone_Wanderer:'(
19:16.03jsmith-teachingMmmmmmn.... foooooood
19:16.07Lone_WandererOh well.
19:16.22SunSparcPho is a bit far.
19:16.38mgearySunSparc: shouldn'ta moved
19:16.45mindjuju1shush you jsmith-teaching, and your fancy virginia cookin'
19:16.45SunSparc:(
19:17.26justincarmonySunSparc: you play mw2 yet?
19:17.27funguserg.  who in their right mind would make a space an illegal character in a password?
19:18.24mindjuju1got to admit, didn't know spaces were allowed
19:18.56fungusof course spaces should be allowed in passwords
19:19.14DexterTheDragonfungus: the same people who don't allow quotes
19:19.29fungusthat makes sense, because they don't know how to escape properly
19:19.34fungusbut spaces??
19:19.36funguswtf!
19:19.38jsmith-teachingmindjuju1: I'm in Maryland this week, enjoying crab cakes :-p
19:20.08mindjuju1lucky dog
19:20.25mindjuju1maryland is some real pretty country, but i like virginia best
19:20.34jsmith-teachingmindjuju1: Amen, brother!
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19:21.13Lone_WandererI liked what I saw of Virginia
19:42.24mgearywhy would my svn not be seeing changed files?
19:42.33mgearyi do "svn st" on a particular project, and it comes back with nothing
19:42.37mgearyit does it very quickly too
19:42.40mgearytoo quickly
19:42.50mgearyother projects in the same repo server behave fine
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21:05.04Utah_DaveSo did anyone see that meteor last night?
21:06.58DexterTheDragonUtah_Dave: I saw my window light up and wondered what the crap
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21:12.36macnewbolda bunch of the guys here saw the light, but not the meteor
21:12.42macnewboldthen the rest of us slept through it
21:17.41Lone_WandererI heard about it
21:18.01Lone_WandererI got a text from a girl I know saying "Did you see the light last night?" and for a minute I thought she'd turned born-again on me.
21:18.51Lone_Wandererkind of disappointed I didn't see it
21:36.39dezertoljust about time to add xsnow & to my .xinitrc.. couple more days ;-)
21:39.48Lone_Wandereroh man, bluemars is playing a mix of Mongolian throat singing and Gregorian-type chants
21:40.07Lone_Wandererwell, they were, now it's just European stuff, but that was amazing
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21:54.16utahconfungus: is s12 having problems?
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21:56.58utahconfungus: nm
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22:38.23DexterTheDragonbeandog: just the person I was looking for
22:38.29DexterTheDragonbeandog: http://www.woot.com/Blog/ViewEntry.aspx?Id=10050
22:38.30beandogDexterTheDragon, whats up
22:38.48beandogThere was a Karate Kid cartoon??
22:39.08beandogI dont watch enough TV
22:39.46beandogoh dude
22:39.50beandogSuper Mario Bros one was awesome
22:41.14Lone_Wandererheya beandog
22:41.25beandogLone_Wanderer, ey man
22:41.26beandoghows things
22:41.33Lone_WandererI'm back in Utah.  Don't remember if I told you or not.
22:41.42beandogLone_Wanderer, no, was wondering
22:41.46beandogLone_Wanderer, back for good?
22:41.49Lone_WandererGetting better.  They sucked pretty bad the first week I was here.
22:41.59Lone_WandererWell, "for good" is relative, since I'm still in the military.
22:42.06Lone_WandererBut yeah, for a while.
22:42.22Lone_WandererWhere you working these days?
22:42.33beandogcalled Clearlink
22:42.36beandogout by the airport
22:42.41Lone_Wanderercool
22:42.45beandogyah
22:42.47beandoggood solid job
22:42.48Lone_WandererI wish I were working AT the airport.
22:42.57beandoglots to do
22:43.23beandogLone_Wanderer, so what you gonna do now?
22:43.36Lone_WandererLooking for a job, actually.  I'm working with esourcehome now.
22:43.39Lone_WandererBut I'd prefer something full time.
22:44.00beandogyah?
22:44.20beandogI know we're not  hiring right now, unless you wanted a job on the phones doing sales
22:44.57Lone_WandererIs it like, a serious sales position, or just a mass-dialing phone slave job?
22:47.12Lone_Wandereralso, $count = count($_POST['foo']) == 0 - this is valid and will do what I expect, right?
22:49.54beandogLone_Wanderer, incoming calls sales; but yah, its a call center
22:50.18beandogGranted, we have the nicest call center I've ever seen in my life
22:50.41Lone_Wandererincoming is better than outgoing
22:50.49beandogNormally that's not saying much, but this place is top o the line
22:51.11Lone_Wandererand I have been wanting to move into sales.  do they have any kind of account management positions, that deal with customers after they've decided to use you guys?
22:51.18beandoghttp://www.flickr.com/photos/clearlink/4035023470/
22:51.20beandogthars a pic
22:51.32beandoghttp://www.flickr.com/photos/clearlink
22:51.33Lone_Wandererholy crap
22:51.54Lone_WandererThat's like, from the future.
22:51.57beandogLone_Wanderer, they have all kinds of stuff.  I dont really know, though, I don't deal with them
22:52.05Lone_Wandererk
22:52.14beandogI mean, aside from build reports for em
22:52.26Lone_Wanderercool
22:52.46Lone_Wanderer"technology-driven customer acquisitions through buzzword BS"
22:53.53beandogYah
22:54.00beandogI couldnt accurately explain what we do, either.
22:54.01beandog:)
22:54.02Lone_WandererWhat do they really do?
22:54.04Lone_Wandererlol okay
22:54.33beandogI think we have a website just for jobs
22:54.36beandogI cant remember what it is though
22:54.47Lone_Wandereryeah, I found it
22:54.59beandogObviously I'm a huge fount of resources.
22:55.50Lone_Wandererwait, they've got a "Positive Vibe Technician"?
22:56.02Lone_WandererI'm not going to have to sit in a circle and hold hands, am I?
22:56.12beandogwe do?
22:56.30beandogmaybe that's the name they give the massage chair in the den
22:57.23Lone_Wandererno, apparently it's someone whose job is to make sure the company boat, wave runners, snow mobiles and cars are ready for outings
22:57.41beandogoh, okay
22:57.42Lone_WandererI'm sure they make all of those available to every employee.
22:57.55Lone_WandererThey wouldn't dream of restricting them to upper management.
22:58.10beandogI dunno, they have some really cool programs going on
22:58.28beandogI know they just started a thing where they bought a Porsche and they let the top sales agents drive it for a week
22:58.37Lone_Wanderer........
22:58.40Lone_Wandererokay that's cool
22:58.44beandogIts a nice little black one too
22:58.53Lone_WandererI'm trying to hold onto some cynicism here man
22:58.58jtsnowheh... Positive Vibe Technician
22:59.04jtsnowhttps://tbe.taleo.net/NA9/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=CLEARLINK&cws=1&rid=55
22:59.15Lone_Wandereryeah
22:59.30beandogyah
22:59.32jtsnowah... I was late
22:59.34beandogwe have someone doing that right now
22:59.37jtsnowdoh
22:59.46beandogI guess theyre looking to get someone else
22:59.51Lone_Wandererhmm, I'm almost out of seeds
22:59.58Lone_WandererMaybe he's not positive enough.
23:00.01beandog"Accompanying company executives on trips and outings with employees"
23:00.12beandogThey just had a huge Vegas party two months ago
23:00.16Lone_WandererOr maybe his vibes don't have enough wattage so they need another one.
23:00.31beandoganyway
23:00.33beandoginteresting company
23:00.45beandogand I can't get this stupid AJAX to work, rawr.
23:00.47Lone_WandererThat's cool.
23:00.54Lone_WandererBeat it with a jQuery.
23:01.01beandogPrototype, baby.
23:02.36beandogsome guys use jquery tho
23:02.54Lone_WandererAll the cool kids use jquery.
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23:04.10beandogDexterTheDragon, wtc?  Ive never seen Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors either
23:04.23beandogit looks like I really missed out
23:04.26beandogoh my hair
23:04.43beandogoh my hat
23:05.09beandogwhy does he have a 4-wheeler when his ring can do so much better?
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