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17:10.18blendmaster1024hello all. i need to ask a php question in #php, but they block webchat, so i'll ask it here.
17:10.59blendmaster1024i need the/a function to find out the ip of the client that requested the current page.
17:20.16fungusit's in the $_SERVER array
17:20.30fungusdon't remember the exact variable though
17:20.42_psychic_REMOTE_ADDR or something like that?
17:21.23_psychic_yeah
17:21.33_psychic_http://us3.php.net/reserved.variables.server
17:21.46blendmaster1024ok then how do i use it? forgive me, i'm a little bitty new to php :)
17:22.02blendmaster1024$_SERVER[REMOTE_ADDR]?
17:22.18_psychic_$_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'];
17:22.23_psychic_(quotes)
17:22.54blendmaster1024oky-dokey, and then to make that into .... it'd be echo($_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR']); ?
17:23.16blendmaster1024haha, yep :)
17:24.04_psychic_magic
17:26.00blendmaster1024http://blendmaster1024.comoj.com/
17:26.10blendmaster1024the home page there, i'm testing this
17:29.23blendmaster1024is this channel publicly logged? i assume that since it doesn't say it is in the topic...?
17:30.30fungusfree web hosting?  how does that work?
17:31.40*** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org
17:32.07herlomindjuju: ping
17:32.10DexterTheDragon~threestooges mindjuju
17:32.22herloooh, that'd be funny
17:32.30mindjujuthere is a threestooges one
17:32.34mindjujui can't remember...
17:32.36mindjujuoh wait
17:32.44mindjuju~nyuk DextertheDragon
17:32.45ibotACTION grabs DextertheDragon nose and hammers it with his other hand!
17:32.57mindjujulove it
17:33.03mindjuju~nyuk herlo
17:33.04ibotACTION grabs herlo nose and hammers it with his other hand!
17:33.04fungusI knew the hosting industry is very cutthroat, but free hosting?  wow.  and $4.84/mo for premium.  
17:33.27mindjuju~nyuk fungus
17:33.28ibotACTION grabs fungus nose and hammers it with his other hand!
17:33.47DexterTheDragonwhere's the eye poking
17:33.57fungus~listvalues poke
17:34.21fungus~listvalues poke eyes
17:34.21mindjuju~wiseguy DextertheDragon
17:34.22ibotACTION runs up to DextertheDragon and pokes DextertheDragon in the eyes!
17:34.32mindjujulove it
17:35.08DexterTheDragonmindjuju: http://djyura.com/
17:35.34mindjujuZoinks!
17:35.41mindjujuthat's cool DtD
17:35.50DexterTheDragonits good stuff
17:39.42blendmaster1024fungus: well, yeah, i need free :S
17:40.16herloDexterTheDragon: yeah, not bad
17:41.47blendmaster1024ok, i need filesystem I/O to write out to IP address to a file. i found http://www.php.net/manual/en/book.filesystem.php, but i don't know how to use the extension. which of http://www.php.net/manual/en/ will tell me how to use it?
17:44.51herlofopen and fwrite blendmaster1024 ??
17:45.19blendmaster1024yeah those. how do i use them? just plain? or do i need to instantiate a class or something?
17:45.52mindjujublendmaster1024 - i'm just curious as to why you'd be logging IPs of your visitors ?
17:46.16fungus:)
17:46.21mindjujusame
17:46.28mindjujunot trying to be rude, but...
17:47.17herloblendmaster1024: there's examples at the bottom of the pages on php.net.  However, I agree with the others, why are you recording IPs?
17:47.31fungusblendmaster1024, file_put_contents is the easiest way to write to a file.
17:48.12blendmaster1024mindjuju: i'm not exactly. i'm writing a bounce server.
17:48.33mindjuju~wiki bounce server
17:48.42fungusbouncing what?  
17:48.44mindjujuoh good, it's not just me
17:49.00DexterTheDragonmindjuju: its like a bounce house right?
17:49.01fungusredirection?  like tinyurl?
17:49.02blendmaster1024so that i can find the IP of a computer i'm not at. i write a script to connect and tell the php what the ip is, then i can request the file that has the ip stored.
17:49.18blendmaster1024fungus: more like dyndns, minus the DNS. just the dyn.
17:50.51herloblendmaster1024: whatismyip.com doesn't work for you?
17:51.00blendmaster1024uh
17:51.04blendmaster1024what is that? lol
17:51.32fungusherlo, he wants an automated process at home to continually keep reporting it's address to a remote server.
17:51.32blendmaster1024i'd like to do my own anyway, it's somewhat easier than mucking around in someone else's, as well as it being more fun.
17:51.44blendmaster1024yeah.
17:51.51blendmaster1024you got it.
17:51.57blendmaster1024and you said it better than me.
17:51.57herlok, sure
17:52.14fungusIMHO, DRY, and get dyndns
17:52.29blendmaster1024i can't afford a name just for this.
17:52.33blendmaster1024i don
17:52.40herloblendmaster1024: btw, you missed a good presentation yesterday at SLLUG daytime
17:52.41fungusdyndns.org is free
17:53.05blendmaster1024<enter too soon>'t want to rent a dns name jsut for this. i know that dyndns is free.
17:53.20blendmaster1024herlo: i couldn't come, my mom couldn't take me. :(
17:54.46blendmaster1024i'll be there next wednesday though most likely.
17:55.02mindjujuwhat's next wednesday?
17:55.26blendmaster1024it *should* be the sllug evening meeting, unless i am mistaken.
17:55.39mindjujuah
17:56.37mindjujuI
17:56.39mindjujuwant
17:56.41mindjujupie
17:57.01mindjujuand an icy cold glass of milk
17:57.14blendmaster1024lolol
17:57.48fungusinteresting, but i'm in the mood for a spinach salad.
17:59.01fungusany kind of chocolate
17:59.31mindjujumgeary was telling me choco pecan was good, i might have to see about getting one for turkey day
17:59.42mgearyit's totally tasty
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17:59.51mgearythe chocolate makes it not quite so "nutty"
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18:00.17fungusooh, that does sound good
18:00.28herloblendmaster1024: okay...
18:00.42funguspie is always good after salad
18:00.56herloblendmaster1024: do you live close to trax?  You should get a train and bus pass.  I hear they are free for students :)
18:01.00mindjujupie is always good after everything, even pie
18:01.02blendmaster1024aha!! it worked!! :) now i just need to figure out mcrypt.
18:01.18blendmaster1024herlo: uh..... no idea.
18:01.19fungusmindjuju, lol
18:01.30blendmaster1024mindjuju: then give me pie.
18:01.43herloblendmaster1024: no idea about what?  the pass or near traxx?
18:01.48blendmaster1024near
18:01.59mindjuju~give blendmaster1024 a pumpkin pie
18:02.00ibotACTION gives a pumpkin pie to blendmaster1024
18:02.06blendmaster1024oooh yummy
18:02.09herlowell, trax runs from 10000 S to downtown about state street
18:02.27blendmaster1024xD
18:02.28_psychic_does it run to San Franciso? ;)
18:11.50fungusWhere's the human version?  http://pootrapusa.com/
18:12.24mindjujuwarning on the link, it has auto play music
18:14.53herlowow, that's just bad!
18:14.57herlopoor doggies
18:18.56mindjujuHOW in the world did I miss this pixar short?  i thought i'd seen them all
18:18.57mindjujuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg-TtadSSls&feature=related
18:20.44herlomindjuju: seriously?  It's at the beginning of UP
18:21.44mindjujui've seen up
18:21.46mindjujudon't remember it
18:22.13DexterTheDragonactually presto was done with wall-e
18:23.21mindjujuthat i didn't see
18:23.31mindjujuwas going to say, with UP, i think it was Clouds
18:23.41mindjujuor something to do with clouds and storks
18:25.37utahconanyone Google Wave-less? I have 18 invites to give away
18:26.08mgeary~admire utahcon
18:26.08ibotACTION secretly and androgynously wishes it were just like utahcon
18:27.12utahconmgeary: does this mean you wants one/
18:27.17mgearyi've got one
18:27.25herloutahcon: do you really use google wave?
18:27.27mgearynot that i really have anything to do with it
18:27.32herloI haven't found a good reason for it yet
18:27.45utahconherlo: nope!
18:27.52herlohrm, yeah
18:28.11utahconI think it's current version is nothing more than email + im + wiki + ICQ :D
18:28.34herloutahcon: this sums it up for me as of this point: http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/11/11/google-wave-observations/
18:29.56utahconquestion... is there a way to get details on a link in my FS?
18:30.08utahconI have a link, not sure if it is a symbolic link etc.
18:30.48herloutahcon: yes
18:31.02herloif it has an l when you do ls -l, it's a symbolic link
18:31.15herlohard links appear to just be files, but have a 2 in the column next to the perms
18:31.32dezertolthat's funny
18:31.37herlo-rwxr-xr-x 1 root mailman  7616 May 24  2008 add_members <-- file (no hard links)
18:31.41dezertolI got into the sandbox for google wave
18:31.53dezertoland plaied with it for a couple days.. and havn't been back to it
18:31.58herlorwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 11 Nov 12 11:31 test -> add_members <-- symbolic link
18:31.58utahconwhat is the first part of the perms shows a an l ?
18:32.05utahconlrwxr-xr-x ?
18:32.06herlolrwxrwxrwx 1 root mailman 11 Nov 12 11:31 test -> add_members <-- symbolic link (oops, paste cut off)
18:32.10dezertoltried to log into the other day.. but i think my account is expired or something
18:32.16utahconsweet thanks
18:32.40herlo-rwxr-xr-x 2 root mailman 7616 May 24  2008 add_members <-- hard link (see the 2)
18:33.15herloutahcon: hard links can only exist on the same filesystem since they use the same inode
18:33.27herlols -li test add_members
18:33.27herlo902976 -rwxr-xr-x 2 root mailman 7616 May 24  2008 add_members
18:33.27herlo902976 -rwxr-xr-x 2 root mailman 7616 May 24  2008 test
18:33.33herlo<PROTECTED>
18:33.38herlosame inode :)
18:33.52herlosymbolic links can cross filesystem boundaries
18:40.27utahconawesome thanks herlo
18:41.06utahconif I were to create a VPN at home... come to work and connect to it, does it work backwards too?
18:41.24utahconie... if connected could I leech files from my work box to my home box?
18:42.12dezertolseems like a lot of trouble.. can't you just scp them?
18:42.22mgearyhis work box prolly doesn't have a public IP
18:42.31dezertolbut if his box at home does
18:42.37mgearybut if he's at home...
18:42.47mgearyutahcon: more details, please
18:42.47dezertolhe's talking about connecting from work to his hom box
18:43.00fungus:)
18:43.26fungusutahcon, depends on how you setup the vpn
18:43.33herloutahcon: no
18:43.44herloutahcon: well, most of the time, no
18:44.18fungusit is certainly possible to have a two way vpn
18:44.34mgearybut what do you really want to do, utahcon? just push files back & forth?
18:44.37fungusit is also possible to bridge the two networks with your vpn
18:44.45fungusthat would be a very bad thing.
18:53.52utahconI have a sum of large files on my work machine that I would like to eventually get to my home machine.
18:54.14utahconwas hoping to have a way to connect and do an rsync if possible.
18:54.29utahconI guess I could expose my box at home, sshfs it and then rsync... no?
18:54.56herloyou don't need both sshfs and rsync imo
18:55.04herlorsync can use ssh with -e ssh switch
18:55.21utahconoh
18:55.38utahconso exposed the box and rsync with -e ssh ...
18:55.38herlo:)
18:55.43herloyup
18:56.35fungusyou don't even need -e ssh
18:56.59fungusrsync -av homemachine:/path/to/folder/ /path/to/local/folder/
18:57.11fungusssh is the default transport
18:57.23herloit is?
18:57.29herloI thought it was rsync
18:57.52fungusif you use two colons it's rsync
18:58.01fungusone colon is ssh
18:58.31utahconneat
18:58.31utahconthanks
18:58.32fungusyou would use "-e rsh" to make the one colon transport over rsh
18:58.35fungusbut don't do that
18:58.36herlofungus: oh, well that's not common knowledge, thank you
18:58.42fungusnp.  
18:58.48herlofungus: yeah, don't do rsh
18:58.54utahconwhat is rsh/
18:58.55utahcon?
18:59.02fungusrsh is non-secure ssh
18:59.05herloremote shell, insecure parent of ssh
18:59.07fungusvery old school
18:59.16utahconwhy would you do that?
18:59.22herlobefore ssh, you would
18:59.24herlonot now
18:59.30fungusexactly
18:59.37herlobut rsh still exists for some reason
18:59.40herloprobably legacy apps
18:59.44utahconawesome, i <3 #uphpu so much goo information in here :D
18:59.51fungusi think rsh used to be the default, and you had to specify "-e ssh"
18:59.56utahcons/goo/good/
18:59.56fungusbut that changed long ago
19:09.22DexterTheDragonI didn't realize we were like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ
19:11.36mindjujuhey, i'm c00l!
19:11.40mindjujui'm on IRC
19:13.43DexterTheDragonLUCKILY, I speak leet.
19:15.28mindjujuah, of course the chan the hackers are speaking on, is none other than
19:15.31DexterTheDragonthere's that hacker chat
19:15.32mindjuju#channel
19:16.27fungusthey called IRC primitive?
19:16.30fungusWTF?
19:17.02utahconI love how hard she acted to get a screen shot of their chat
19:17.08fungusall other chat systems I have seen, are far more primitive
19:17.29utahconIRC is old, but it is still very userful
19:17.44fungusyes, old, but still far more advanced than other systems.
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19:18.24mindjujuinteresting
19:18.30optikalAt least they're using irssi
19:18.39utahconis it normal for Xorg to use 50% of my memory?
19:18.41mindjujuwhen looking at the video v closely i find they connect to server IRC
19:18.49mindjujuthey are connecting using telnet
19:19.11mindjujuyou can see this on 1.09 of the show
19:19.55utahconon #channel
19:19.56utahcon:d
19:19.59DexterTheDragonlet back hack em
19:20.18DexterTheDragons/let/lets/
19:20.39fungusutahcon, no, that's not normal, unless you have no swap and very little RAM
19:20.45mindjujuDexterTheDragon - i'm out, i don't have a righteous gibson to hack 'em with
19:21.26utahconfungus: how could I tell what my swap is?
19:21.49utahconSwap:  9060620k total,  1728472k used,  7332148k free,   792576k cached
19:22.24fungus9G swap?  wow.
19:23.03fungustop shows VIRT, RES, and SHR for memory of a process
19:23.06utahconhigh / low ?
19:23.13fungus9G is a ton.
19:23.44utahconfungus: would it make a difference if I am running compiz, or should 50% still be too much?
19:24.13fungusthat's still too much
19:24.36utahconhmm
19:24.54utahconwell... guess I should look into it :)
19:25.45utahconis the best course of action restarting X ?
19:26.03fungusyeah, a simple log out and back in will do that.
19:26.34utahconfungus: is it normal for Xorg to get greedy over time? or is this a sign of another problem?
19:26.57fungusnah, i've been logged in for days and only at 1.2%
19:27.11fungusfor Xorg that is.
19:43.33DexterTheDragonutahcon: http://bit.ly/1I7oFx
19:49.19mindjujui don't know about that turbaconducken
19:49.25mindjujui think it's over the top
19:51.15mindjujuplus they cheated
19:51.33mindjujuthe used a cut up chicken into a duck
19:51.34DexterTheDragonmindjuju: that top pic looks like a headcrab
19:51.43mindjujuit does, doesn't i1
19:54.30wpsI can't believe that there is a website entirely about bacon
19:55.27mindjujuDextertheDragon, it appears we're late to the party
19:55.33mindjujulook at this
19:55.34wpsdon't get me wrong… I loooooove bacon… pork is my meat of choice… but an entire website?
19:55.34mindjujuhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turducken
19:55.43mindjujulook at variations
19:56.00mindjujuthere was a meal in the 19th century that had 17 birds stufffed
19:56.13mindjujuThe largest recorded nested bird roast is 17 birds, attributed to a royal feast in France in the early 19th century (originally called a Rôti Sans Pareil, or "Roast without equal") - a bustard stuffed with a turkey, a goose, a pheasant, a chicken, a duck, a guinea fowl, a teal, a woodcock, a partridge, a plover, a lapwing, a quail, a thrush, a lark, an Ortolan Bunting and a Garden Warbler.[2]
19:57.05DexterTheDragon"This dish could not be legally recreated in the modern era as many of the listed birds are now protected species."
19:57.08DexterTheDragonlame
19:57.17herlohaha
19:57.22mindjujuyou know though
19:57.25mindjujui'm having an idea
19:57.29mindjujua POWERFUL idea
19:57.38herloGeek Thanksgiving?
19:57.46mindjujuno no,BIGGER
19:57.49herlolol
19:58.14mindjujuwe'll MAKE a chicken from different places.  2 chicken breast from Popeyes, 2 chicken legs from KFC
19:58.19mindjuju,etc, etc, etc
19:58.53wpsFrankensgiving
19:58.58mindjuju:)
19:59.08herloit shoudl be turkey though :(
19:59.31blendmaster1024utahcon: you still here? i'd likie an invite :)
20:00.50mindjujuDtD - these guys, according to the wiki article are thought to be the first to make turduken - http://www.hebertsmeats.com/asccustompages/products.asp?cartID=&affID=&categoryid=2&navParent=15
20:00.53mindjujuand they ship 'em
20:00.58mindjujui might have to think about this
20:06.27blendmaster1024i can has another problem :S
20:06.36blendmaster1024i need assymetric encryption from php.
20:07.13herlomindjuju: DtD??
20:07.22blendmaster1024and... well... i can't find it.
20:07.40blendmaster1024if mcrypt can do it i can't figure out how.
20:07.42mindjujuDtD = DexterTheDragon
20:08.05herloahha
20:08.21herloDex<tab>
20:08.23herloDexterTheDragon:  :)
20:08.23mgearyblendmaster1024: by asymmetric do you mean "one-way" ?
20:08.31blendmaster1024nope. i mean gpg.
20:08.36mindjujuyeah, but Dex<tab> is 4 keys
20:08.40mindjujuDtD is 3
20:08.48mindjujudtd is simpler
20:08.51DexterTheDragonI have dtd set to hilight
20:08.55blendmaster1024i can type De<tab>
20:09.03blendmaster1024oh you do? lol
20:09.08herlomindjuju: I can type D<tab>
20:09.14deathToToastersnow you can't ;)
20:09.23blendmaster1024deathToToasters: :S lol
20:09.31herlodeathToToasters: now it's d<tab><tab>
20:09.35herlostill the same
20:09.36blendmaster1024yeah
20:09.42blendmaster1024he's right
20:09.56mindjujuawesome
20:10.05herloseems we do things to make life simpler that make things harder actually
20:10.24mindjujui want pie
20:10.32DexterTheDragonyou always want pie
20:10.45herlopie is good
20:10.58mindjujuyup
20:11.01mindjujupai
20:11.13mindjujupi
20:12.06mgearyπ
20:12.20DexterTheDragonπ
20:12.23DexterTheDragondoh
20:12.34mgeary~daylateanddollarshort DexterTheDragon
20:12.40wpsthat looks like the little table that holds the lid up off the pizza
20:12.43blendmaster1024ahhh well :S
20:12.50blendmaster1024nobody is going to ddos us
20:13.15blendmaster1024and we have dang good encryption in the way of other attacks... we're small and unimportant, i'll take the risk.
20:13.52mgearyblendmaster1024: http://devzone.zend.com/article/1265
20:14.22blendmaster1024bookmarked. now i can implement encryption later. in the mean time, i need to get this to work...
20:14.36mindjujui feel like getting a whopper
20:14.44mindjujuand an apple pie
20:14.48DexterTheDragonmindjuju: get me one too
20:14.53mindjujuand pie?
20:15.11DexterTheDragononly if its good pie
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20:23.40mindjujuwps, you around?
20:23.46wpsyeah
20:24.02mindjujuseems like you said once you were thinking of building a firepit in your backyard
20:24.04mindjujudid you ever?
20:24.30wpstwo neighbors I share a fence with have them, but no, not me
20:24.43mindjujuah
20:24.59mindjujui've got turkey on the brain, was thinking of smoking a turkey outside, hence the firepit
20:25.07mindjujui've wanted one, this might be a good reason
20:25.08wpsanyone want to move to Lehi?
20:25.10wpsmy house is for sale
20:25.17blendmaster1024LOL!!!
20:25.25wpsI'll promise to build a firepit in my new backyard if you buy my current house
20:25.26mindjujui thought you just moved in like 2 yrs ago?
20:25.36herlomindjuju: the best turkey is in a turkey fryer imo
20:25.42wps3.45 years ago
20:26.54mgearywps: why the move?
20:27.19wpsseveral thinks I want different
20:27.21wpsoops
20:27.21wpsthings
20:27.42blendmaster1024who is several?
20:28.30utahconI am several pounds
20:28.39wpsmgeary: I'd like some more space
20:29.20mgearywps: so have you already found a new place?
20:29.32wpsgoing to build
20:29.40wpslocation found, yes
20:29.50mgearyaha
20:29.52mgearycool
20:29.55mindjujuwhere at?
20:29.57wpsso I might need to crash on your coach for a couple months
20:30.03wpsa block from my current house
20:30.08mindjujuah
20:30.21wpss/coach/couch/
20:30.26mindjujuseems like everytime i hear somebody say they want more space, they head to payson
20:30.51wpspersonally, I'd like to be on 20 acres somewhere but my wife and my job prevent that
20:31.13utahconpayson?
20:31.14utahconwtf
20:32.09utahconTX is nothing more than Little Mexico :D
20:32.32mindjujujust remember, Utah was part of Mexico too, once upon a time
20:32.34wpssome browser defaults boggle my mind
20:32.40wpswhy would a fieldset have a 2px margin?
20:32.41utahconwas... still is
20:34.25utahconwps, why do forms have margins?
20:34.32wpsno kidding
20:34.48utahconand as far as I know they all fall under that one
20:34.59utahconI think it is because they all set HTML/BODY to have margins
20:42.50stderrhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_x5IziyOcAg
20:44.21mindjujujust like Dr Horrible!
20:53.17mgearyi always do "<form style='display:inline;'... > "
20:53.28DexterTheDragon0.o
20:53.29mgearyor set it in the css
21:12.16utahcon~whale DexterTheDragon
21:12.23utahcondamn
21:12.27utahcon~lart DexterTheDragon
21:12.27ibotpries DexterTheDragon's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to DexterTheDragon
21:13.33DexterTheDragon~bdhit utahcon
21:13.34ibotACTION and dexterthedragon demonstrates the Iron Two Killers Hand on utahcon's forehead
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21:48.36mindjuju~fart paypal
21:48.37ibotACTION farts in paypal's general direction
21:48.39utahconthey jsut sent me an email... open a student account (sub account) get $10... up to 4 times.
21:48.49utahconand done
21:48.50utahconL:d
21:49.01mindjujuwait wait, do what with what?
21:49.31utahconPayPal email says... Open PayPal Student account, and they will put $10 in it.
21:49.50utahconFine print: up to $40 per parent account ( 4 student accounts )
21:50.31utahconstudent accounts cost nothing to open, have, or close.
21:50.36utahconI just made $40 ;)
21:51.28utahconwell... except they deposit the money some time between now and Dec 18th...
21:51.35utahconeither way... free $40 :D
21:51.41herlohaha, nice
21:52.04mindjujuforty dollars would be nice but a double whopper would be better
21:52.16utahcon~whopper mindjuju
21:52.21utahconsad
21:52.27DexterTheDragonwith fries and a shake
21:52.53mindjujuDtD, that would definitely make it better than $40
21:57.12utahconDtD?
21:57.22utahconnm
21:57.26beandog~cluebat utahcon
21:57.26ibotACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps utahcon.
21:57.26utahcon<-- retarded
21:57.41mgearygee, if only we'd JUST HAD THAT DISCUSSION
21:57.46DexterTheDragonwow this has been the who the crap is DtD day
21:58.02beandogDan the Dentist
21:58.31DexterTheDragonit stands for Document Type Definition, sheesh
21:59.15herlomindjuju: see, just confuse the entire channel while you are at it :)
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22:07.18mgearycan i just say this is a super cool command: svn st | grep ! | cut -c 9- | xargs svn rm
22:09.49redroywhat does it do?
22:10.34mgearyit does a "svn rm" on all files that you've removed from your directories manually
22:10.54redroyoooh... nice
22:11.06beandogwhy not just do rm && svn del ?
22:11.19beandogor svn del
22:11.19beandogor
22:11.20beandogwhatever
22:11.21beandogn/m
22:20.21beandogokay, well
22:20.29beandogapparently eating a snickers *doesn't* make everything all better.
22:20.38beandogmy arm still hurts.
22:20.45DexterTheDragonbeandog: thats a twix
22:20.52beandogoh is it?  figures.
22:31.59dezertoldeep fried?...
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23:04.55PoeticIntensity~ping _psychic_
23:04.56ibotpong _psychic_
23:05.22PoeticIntensitygot a cake question for anyone with a spare moment...
23:13.00_psychic_sup
23:13.33_psychic_PoeticIntensity: ^
23:14.05PoeticIntensityalready almost have it....  I'll let ya know if it fails, though...
23:14.11PoeticIntensityI always ask prematurely...
23:14.13PoeticIntensity:-(
23:20.05stderrthere other things far worse to be premature at.
23:20.07stderr>_>
23:20.08stderr<_<
23:20.51stderrdunno if I pasted this in here, my implementation for Rubyish mixins in Python, for the Pythonistas here: http://pastie.org/693721
23:23.50romanovicanyone can suggest a good technique for implementing a webapp with server push?
23:24.29fungusyou either need fast polling, or a constant connection open
23:24.32romanovici keep reading about comet and long polling with ajax, but never done it
23:24.46fungusyeah, comet, that's what it was
23:31.06_psychic_Flash + JS
23:38.21romanovici've never done flash. wouldn't mind playing around with it some weekend though
23:46.40mindjujuDtD - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH-0s0pRleg
23:52.44DexterTheDragonmindjuju: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5585590460724266855&ei=tJ_8StGuGZ7cqALdz6HcDg&q=daft+punk+interstella+5555&hl=en&view=2#
23:55.31DexterTheDragonwhole thing
23:56.07mindjujuwell, i'll be here until the python meeting; then the python meeting

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