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00:00.35mindjujustderr -- that is amazing
01:40.18Utah_DaveOff to the beach!
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13:53.43*** topic/#UPHPU by mindjuju -> Happy Veteran's Day | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org
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14:41.35utahcongonna be one of those days
14:53.13mindjujuutahcon - this will cheer you up
14:53.14mindjujuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JHtX2JwZAY
14:56.01utahcondamn
14:56.09utahconwish I had the time and budget to screw around like that
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15:56.52mindjujufor those of us having a hard time getting your brain past POST, take 2 of these and calling after you've started coding ::  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy4FXhkm6Nw , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4D1HSL7P98 , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwQbPgouUYo , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5rRZdiu1UE
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16:06.57josephscotthappy birthday carmony
16:07.05justincarmonyheh, thanks josephscott :)
16:08.15mindjuju~spank justincarmony
16:08.16ibotACTION bends justincarmony over his knee and tatoos 'ibot' on justincarmony's pasty white buttocks.
16:08.20justincarmony26 :P
16:08.32mindjujutwas close
16:08.34mindjuju:)
16:09.17mindjujusup josephscott
16:09.55josephscottjust the regular stuff, was going to head up to SLC for the SLLUG meeting at beta loft
16:12.53justincarmonyI need to go to one of those SLLUG meetings one of these times
16:13.16mindjujui need to get to the ubuntu ones
16:13.22mindjujubut they are all the way down at U of U
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17:24.02Lone_Wanderermindjuju, are you here too?  or, also?
17:24.14mindjujui'm everywhere
17:24.19Lone_Wandererk cool, let's talk here instead
17:24.24Lone_Wandererthe facebook chat messes with my browser
17:24.37mindjujucuriously, i route all my chats through pidgin
17:24.46Lone_Wandereryeah that's what I'm using too
17:24.49mindjujuso my facebook page isn't up, but i still get to facebook chat
17:25.02Lone_WandererOh sweet, I didn't know Pidgin worked with FB.
17:25.17mindjujuyup
17:25.23mindjujuthey need to work on a twitter account
17:25.29mindjujuthe plugins i find don't work well for long
17:25.47Lone_WandererOkay, so, about Texas
17:26.08Lone_Wandererwhen I was inprocessing at Ft. Huachuca the colonel who briefed us asked where people were from
17:26.33mindjujulet me guess, that quote from Full Metal Jacket?
17:26.34Lone_Wandererwhen he got to Texas he stopped and said "I got so (expletive) sick of hearing about Texas this and Texas that
17:26.55Lone_Wandererthat I finally found a way to shut all you Texans up for good.  If you're from Texas, stand up."
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17:26.59Lone_Wandererand a bunch of people stood up
17:27.18Lone_Wandererthen he said "Now, if you can tell me the date of Texas's independence, keep standing."  Everyone sat down.
17:27.51mindjujupoor guys!
17:28.17Lone_WandererYeah, but at least we didn't have to endure impromptu speeches about how Texas is the best state in the nation :p
17:28.36mindjujui actually did one of the Texas sesquicentennial moments
17:28.51Lone_WandererWhat did that involve?
17:29.21mindjujureciting a fact about Texas on the PA system when I was in 7th grade
17:29.31Lone_Wandererahh cool
17:30.45Lone_Wandererhaha awesome
17:30.47Lone_Wandererit figures :p
17:30.58Lone_WandererSo, what *is* Texas's independence day?
17:31.00Lone_WandererNo fair using Google.
17:31.37mindjujureally depends on what exactly you're in refernce to, are you asking what day did we beat the Mexican Army or what day did we join the union?
17:32.15Lone_WandererI believe he meant the day that you won independence from Mexico
17:32.23mindjujuunion date is around christmas in 1845
17:32.29mindjujui don't remember the exactly exact date
17:32.45Lone_Wandererk
17:32.52DexterTheDragonmindjuju: thats not what wikipedia says
17:33.04mindjujudag!  i sux
17:33.07DexterTheDragonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Independence_Day
17:33.07mindjujuwhat does wiki say?
17:33.54mindjujuDtD, that is true, but Texas was its own country for a while
17:34.11mindjujuThe union date is the day we were officially accepted into the US
17:34.14mindjujuas a state
17:35.01mindjujuthat day is what was celebrated back in 1985 as a 150 anniversary (sesquensential)
17:35.16DexterTheDragonAdmission to Union  December 29, 1845
17:35.42mindjujui like that day better, cause it's like the day Peanut butter and Jelly were discovered to be ultra awesome together
17:35.54mindjujuUS + Texas = ultra awesome
17:36.11mindjujuwhere just US by itself was pretty meh
17:36.22mindjujuROFL
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17:49.21Lone_WandererSo is the US the peanut butter, or the jelly?
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17:55.48justincarmonylol josephscott: http://ocaoimh.ie/php-is_numeric-vs-is_int/
17:57.01josephscottimportant to know if you want to check the type or the value :-)
17:57.08justincarmonyfunny I stumbled upon your comment :P
17:57.52DexterTheDragonjustincarmony: ugh I hate people who think implicit type casting is a nice feature of php
17:58.09DexterTheDragon"The problem is that is_int() thinks a string of numbers is a string"
17:58.11fungus'12345' != 12345
17:58.25DexterTheDragona string of numbers *is a string*
17:58.28josephscottI don't think this a language issue, as much as it is subtle naming issue of the functions
17:58.36fungusit's both
17:59.00fungusvery subtle naming issue, but the language issue causes a culture of expected implicit type casting
17:59.19josephscottI can see how looking at the two function names it isn't immediately obvious that they do two different things
18:00.02josephscottfor instance is_int_type() and is_numeric_value() would make it much more obvious what's it is doing.  Not that people won't still be able to get them confused of course :-)
18:01.00josephscottgotta run, heading to betaloft in SLC for the daytime SLLUG meeting
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19:02.35justincarmonywtf?
19:02.44justincarmonyany CSS gurus here?
19:04.11mindjujuask your question, somebody may know
19:04.37stderrhttp://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=9
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19:24.28justincarmonywhy in the world is the text in the "Leaders Board" area all big?
19:24.30justincarmonyhttp://www.cevo.com/
19:28.54mindjujuwhere is it?
19:29.20justincarmonyscroll down
19:29.29justincarmonyLayered X Leaderboards
19:30.06jtsnowhmmm... FireBug says font size should be 12px for text in that table
19:33.21jtsnowtable layout... gross ;)
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19:49.21mindjujujustincarmony -- still looking
19:51.03mindjujui've seen one other page like this where firebug couldn't track all the CSS classes affecting something
19:51.29mindjujuthe place i'm getting caught at is that you've got tons of CSS right in the middle of the web page AND the css stylesheet
19:52.02mindjujui think the style that you should look at is
19:52.19mindjujutext-title or the related classes
19:52.30mindjujutext-title-blue, red, etc
19:52.54mindjujuiwell, it's prolly the blue one
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20:17.27mindjujujustincarmony, you still there?
20:17.35justincarmonysup
20:17.47mindjujugo to line 19 in your file style.css
20:17.55mindjujuadd font-size: 12px there
20:18.27mindjujuit should be the CSS that affects a, a:link, a:visited
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21:16.31unumso I'm designing a database where I have inventory coming in and out
21:16.54unumthe inventory can come in from a person or organization or go out to a person or organization
21:17.41unumshould I create one table that can be either a person or organization
21:31.29mgearyhow similar is the data you're tracking for them?
21:33.19unumI think the only real difference is the organizaton will need to have a contact name
21:41.41unumI could have two different tables and then have a donor/receiver type field
21:41.47unumso I know which table to look at
21:41.56unumthat would be hard on a large join....
21:44.12mgearysounds to me like you've got a decent chance of success with just one table
21:45.29unumI think so
21:45.46unumI asked other people involved we'll see what they say
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21:46.00unumI'll probably send it out to the udbug list before I implement it
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22:29.12mgearyokay, this is really weird
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22:29.42mgearyi'm using a Prototype+Autocomplete library and it works great, but on Firefox, it only works when Firebug is enabled. Turn Firebug off, and the autocomplete does nothing
22:29.47mgearyin Safari it works fine
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23:04.02DexterTheDragon~lart mindjuju
23:04.02ibotsmacks mindjuju up side the head with a clue-by-4

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