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00:00.09justincarmonyhow much?
00:00.22mgearyone MILLION dollars
00:01.30herlolol
00:02.28justincarmonymacnewbold: now much?
00:03.58herlo$3
00:04.05PoeticIntensitymgeary, yeah... I've had the grandpa of that model now for 5 years running 24/7, and its just now starting to show signs of age.
00:04.43mgearythough i have to confess that i haven't yet put dd-wrt on mine
00:29.26macnewbolddoh, missed carmony
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00:33.07beandogYo ho
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02:06.24macnewboldjustincarmony: I think it was about $50 if I remember right
02:07.40macnewboldi've used it enough to verify it works, but that's it. we never put it into use for real.
02:08.38justincarmonymacnewbold: ok, I'm going to see if I could fix mine
02:08.44justincarmonyif not, I'll buy it from ya :)
02:08.54macnewboldcool, i didn't know they were fixable - is it a hardware problem or software?
02:14.35justincarmonyI'm not sure, I'm hoping software
02:14.40justincarmonybut I think it might be hardware :(
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15:49.13jsmithAnybody happen to have an older version of IE (5, 5.5, 6) that wouldn't mind testing my wife's website for me?  
15:49.46jsmithShe's getting complaints that it isn't working for some people, and my only guess at this point is that it may be "old IE is evil" rendering problem
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16:08.10macnewboldjsmith: i don't know the details, but our guys use some IE Tester thingy that lets them test IE 6, 7, and 8 all in the same app, opening each new tab with whichever of the 3 versions they choose
16:08.29macnewboldand chances are good that IE6 is broken for any modern website that is built to standards
16:09.38jsmithmacnewbold: We tried one of those testers, but it didn't reveal any problems
16:09.46macnewboldhm
16:09.49macnewboldcould be dumb users
16:13.23jsmithI never try to underestimate them
16:13.37jsmithThat being said... my wife has had enough separate complaints that it makes me worry
16:15.23utahconsome days I hate ssh and its complexities for RSA key login
16:16.23utahcon3 out of 4 servers... worked fine... 4th doesnt want to play along
16:18.11jsmithutahcon: What, you haven't found the joys of "ssh-copy-id" yet?
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16:22.48utahconjsmith: apparently not
16:23.17utahconI have always just added my keys to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys set authorized_keys to 500 and things worked.
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16:35.36utahconstupid permissions
16:35.43utahcon.ssh has a group write... argh
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18:26.10beandogis there a meeting tonight?
18:33.53justincarmonywhy would there be one tonight? :P
18:35.14beandogits thursday
18:35.34DexterTheDragonis there a meeting every thursday?
18:35.36beandogarent they always on thursdays?
18:35.41beandogDexterTheDragon, beats me
18:35.43beandogI never know when they are
18:35.52beandogand nobody ever posts em in the topic *cough* mindjuju
18:36.00beandogso I figured I'd ask. :)
18:43.03beandogso
18:43.06beandogwhen is the next meeting?
18:46.00mgearyssshhh. no one tell him
18:46.10mgeary~keepinthedark beandog
18:46.50beandoghttp://www.engadget.com/2009/11/05/netflix-shipping-out-ps3-instant-streaming-discs/
18:54.16justincarmonylol
18:54.18justincarmonyI think the 19ths
18:54.35DexterTheDragon~lart justincarmony
18:54.35ibotholds justincarmony to the floor and spanks him with a cat-o-nine-tails
18:54.44justincarmonyGah!
18:54.49justincarmony~lart DexterTheDragon
18:54.49ibotdrops a truckload of VAXen on DexterTheDragon
18:54.53DexterTheDragonway to keep a secret
18:56.30funguswoot, gotta buy a PS3 now.  Games + Bluray + Netflix = almost perfect
18:56.53beandogfungus, don't forget free online access
18:57.07beandogdont have to pay ... like that *other* console.
18:57.09beandog;)
18:57.37fungusnice
18:57.43justincarmonyis the netflix for ps3 released?
18:58.00beandog^^
18:58.07beandog~reading comprehension justincarmony
18:58.44fungusso I can replace my wii, dvd, and roku with one device.
18:58.55fungusyay.
18:59.01beandogfungus, if youre getting rid of your roku, Ill buy it from yah
18:59.12funguslol, no thanks.  gotta move it downstairs.
18:59.19beandogdoh
18:59.21beandogI love the Rokus
18:59.25fungusme too.
18:59.26beandogThey are a-mazing.
19:00.07fungushow well does a ps3 do media streaming from a network?  can I replace my apple tv too
19:00.35mgearybeandog: i was totally craving cinnamon bears just minutes ago
19:00.48beandogfungus, it's codec / container support is kinda crappy, from what I hear, it works good with 3rd party software PlayOn(?) I think
19:00.52beandogis one of em
19:00.53beandogmgeary, heh
19:00.57beandog~mgeary++
19:01.18beandog"If you have a PLAYSTATION 3, Xbox 360, Nintendo Wii, Moxi HD DVR, NETGEAR EVA2000, HP MediaSmart TV, or other DLNA-compliant device, PlayOn lets you watch Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, CBS, YouTube, CNN, ESPN and more on your TV."
19:01.39fungushrm, I guess i'll keep my appletv then.  but still, I'll actually have free hdmi ports.  woo
19:02.04beandog$40?!
19:02.06beandogeeeeeeeeeek
19:02.55DexterTheDragonbut does it work on linux
19:03.02beandogit does?
19:03.13beandogI didnt see that
19:03.28DexterTheDragonno it only works on windows
19:03.41beandogpoo.
19:03.45DexterTheDragon~dyslexic beandog
19:03.55beandog:(
19:04.16beandogDexterTheDragon, is that the one where you toss your cookies after eating too much cake?
19:04.52DexterTheDragonbeandog: I think mindjuju would say pie
19:05.30beandogmm, pie
19:05.34jtsnowI hear this works well: http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/
19:06.06beandogthe *real* problem, Ive noticed, is that the PS3's interface for browsing video is just crappy
19:06.11beandogYou don't have a lot of options.
19:06.35beandogthe best you can really do is have folders, but still, that's kinda sub-optimal.
19:06.42beandognavigating a tree
19:07.09DexterTheDragon~cdc mindjuju
19:07.22mindjujui personally don't have swine flu
19:07.23DexterTheDragon~quarantine mindjuju
19:07.26mindjujuJust Tiff and Corban
19:07.32mindjujubut yes, i have been quarantined
19:07.43mindjujuschool and work from home
19:09.33beandogDexterTheDragon, its easier to just sun bathe naked
19:10.23justincarmonylol, my wife and I are listening to the Glee soundtrack :P
19:11.22DexterTheDragonthat is lol
19:14.00beandogOkay so I have a DB question
19:14.21justincarmonyDROP tablename; that'll do it :)
19:14.33beandogI have this massive table that is constantly written to that has millions of records.  It has one column that I need to get out of it when displaying reports
19:14.34justincarmonyor DROP DATABASE dbname;
19:14.55beandogI already have a view that pulls out everything I need.  I could extend the view to do a JOIN on the big table, but that'd mean it's hitting it more than it needs to
19:15.20beandogSo I'm thinking of just running a separate query on the reports to hit that big table only then, so it minimizes the load a bit.
19:15.36beandogAm I just being too anal here, or would putting it in the view be a better idea
19:15.49beandogThe view would get hit a lot more than the big table would
19:16.30beandogSo Im just looking for the best way to avoid any unnecessary calls.  Dunno if a views optimization would make it effecient enough though that its a non-issue
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19:28.08fungusIIRC views don't optimize anything.  they just make the queries easer to deal with.
19:28.37fungusthat is.. unless you are using materialized views, which are painful are rarely supported.
19:29.10fungusso to keep your query simple probably stick to the bigtable
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20:14.58beandogok
20:15.02beandogthx fungus
20:23.15beandoghttp://consumerist.com/5397955/ford-announces-solution-to-americas-car-woes-the-1993-taurus
20:23.16beandoglol
20:23.26beandogonion++
20:25.52beandogoh boy what in the world??
20:25.56beandogmindjuju, ping
20:26.02beandoghttp://jaroo.com/watch/pole-position/episode/1
20:26.09beandogyou ever seen this?
20:26.23beandogwoah this looks awesome
20:26.40beandogoh wow
20:26.45beandogthis theme song is amazing
20:27.14beandogman I think I actually remember this
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21:05.03DexterTheDragonhey swb
21:05.15swbhiya
21:05.36DexterTheDragonhow goes moving?
21:05.54swb*mostly* moved in ;)
21:19.31herloswb: nice
21:19.50beandoganyone ever used any wb green drives?
21:40.32SunSparcNever heard of them
21:40.52SunSparcmindjuju: You probably know the group Tycho.  Yes?
21:42.26beandogSunSparc, mindjuju is at home
21:42.31beandoghe's got avian bird flu
21:42.55SunSparc"avian" "bird" flu...  :)  heh
21:43.09SunSparcThat's like saying swine pig flu
21:43.25SunSparcHe probably has avian swine flu.
21:43.32SunSparclol
21:43.44SunSparcHow is he doing?
21:44.19beandogHe needs a burrito, stat!
21:44.26SunSparcLOL
21:44.32SunSparcBeans, the cure all.
21:45.21beandogbeans beans the magic froot
21:45.29BeanSparcSo true
21:46.22beandogwhich reminds me
21:46.34beandoghorde
21:46.35beandogwhatever.
21:48.35SunSparc:)
21:50.09fungushoard refers to things
21:50.14fungushorde refers to people
21:51.40beandogthanks fungus
21:52.07SunSparc~school beandog
21:52.08ibotACTION slaps beandog around, robs'm, then reminds'm to be thankfully for the education.
21:52.17beandoglol, wtc?
21:52.45SunSparcbeandog: Just trying to help you stay smart.
21:53.01SunSparcfungus: So true, he who has Google is a genius.
21:53.40fungusif they are at least smart enough to search intelligently and interpret the data properly
21:54.00beandogthanks SunSparc
21:54.04beandog~SunSparc++
21:54.07SunSparc:)
21:54.09SunSparclol
21:54.12beandogYou get a karma
21:54.22SunSparcWoot!
21:54.27SunSparcTake that IE!!
21:54.32SunSparc~karma ie
21:54.32ibotie has karma of -666
21:54.39beandogheh
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22:58.10beandogwoo hoo!
22:58.13beandog"Your free instant streaming disc for PS3 should arrive by Friday, Nov 06, 2009."
22:59.50beandog:D
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23:04.17mgearystale gummi bears are way better than fresh
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23:04.53mgearyscared him off
23:07.26jsmithmgeary: You're right... until they get too hard to chew
23:07.46mgearyyeah
23:08.18jsmithTime to wander off and leave the interwebs for another day

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