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14:19.31Utah_DaveHmm. I'm drooling over this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167016&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-Solid+State+Disk-_-Intel-_-20167016
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14:38.32influxG'day.
14:39.57influxI'm creating a few classes that will interact with a mysql database and I'm wondering if it would make sense to leave any creation/dissolvement of a mysql connection outside of the class definition.
14:40.53influxThereby leaving only mysql-related code that deals with manipulating data within a database or table
14:40.56influx.
14:57.09mgearyare you already using an ActiveRecord paradigm/model?
14:57.33influxNo sir.
14:57.42mgearywell that's your first issue... ;)
14:57.50influxHeh.
15:00.13influxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveRecord ??
15:00.19influxerr
15:00.20influxhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_record_pattern
15:03.16fungusinflux: generally all your classes in your app should share a single database connection.
15:03.39fungusSo having a separate db connection class that the data models use is quite common.
15:13.06influxThanks. :)
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16:17.10fungusheh, me?  leader?  naw.  
16:17.18fungusI just read documentation.
16:17.29utahconif I have a url like server.com/controllerValue/?args=values and I want it to redirect as server.com/index.php?controller=controllerValue&args=values how would I do that?
16:17.41DexterTheDragonutahcon: yeah he RTFM'd
16:18.10utahconDexterTheDragon: so did I, but it didn't seem to help
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16:18.36fungusyou would match on /(.*)
16:18.51fungusand rewrite it to /index.php?controller=$1
16:19.01fungusand I think there is a flag to append qsa args
16:19.38mindjujudefinitely tech demi-god
16:20.35utahconqsappend ;)
16:24.49mindjujunext to winamp 5, jw player is my FAV piece of software i own a license for
16:24.50fungusutahcon: you can make your urls even prettier than that
16:25.35beandogwinamp 5?
16:25.46fungusRewriteRule /(.*)/(.*) /index.php?controller=$1&action=$2
16:25.57utahconfungus: I could but I don't need to
16:25.57utahcon:d
16:26.02mindjujui personally own winamp 5, jw player is something i told the company to buy
16:26.11utahconworked > RewriteRule ^(.*)/(.*)$ index.php?controller=$1 [L,QSA]
16:26.12mindjujuand the dude keeps writing upgrades and patches
16:26.15fungusaww, but pretty urls are so much prettier
16:26.30mindjujuso i've been well pleased with jw player, and version 5 is suppoed to have tons more stuff
16:27.12DexterTheDragonthis ad brought to you by mindjuju
16:27.18beandogheh
16:27.42mindjuju:)
16:28.07fungusor keep your rules simple and rewrite all URLs to /index.php and use PHP to parse out the PATH_INFO
16:28.19mindjujuwhen in the market for a killer flash video player, I always choose JW Player from longtail.  It loads quick, has a millions points of articulation and its secure
16:31.03beandogwhen I'm in the market for a flash player, I realize that something at work has gone truly wrong.
16:32.16mindjuju:)
16:59.46mindjuju@beandog - http://www.eatnineghost.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/01.gif
17:00.06mindjujudad hadouken's son! http://www.eatnineghost.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/01.gif
17:00.12beandogheh
17:00.16beandognice
17:12.38mindjujui wonder if there is any chance half-life 3 will come out before Christmas
17:13.59jsmithmindjuju: Even if it did, you wouldn't have time to play it :-)
17:14.17mindjujui would over Christmas break!
17:14.32mindjujuno school and work slows down a little bit
17:14.41mindjujujust my luck, they'll release it right over mid-terms in march
17:14.44mindjuju:(
17:14.52stderrepisode 3, you mean?
17:15.13mindjujuyup, sorry, hl2 - ep 3
17:15.55mindjujui'd get L4D, but i'm afraid of the time commitment
17:16.01mindjujui barely have time to play TF2 these days
17:16.36stderrMy girlfriend despises Uncharted 2 already.
17:16.44mindjujuwhat's uncharted 2?
17:17.19mindjujuah
17:17.32stderrgreatest game ever made.
17:17.32mindjujuhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted_2
17:17.32stderrhttp://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-uncharted-2/50366
17:20.57mindjujustderr - looks awesome
17:21.04mindjujukinda tomb raider-esque?
17:21.17stderryea, it's amazing.  The competitive multiplayer is some of the best multiplayer I've ever played.
17:21.22stderryea, tomb raider-esque.
17:21.38stderrbut with cinematic quality writing and graphics
17:22.47mindjujuone of these days i'm going to have to get an xbox 360
17:29.13mindjujuso when verifying browser compatiblity, is anybody going back to FF 2 and prior versions, and if so how?
17:31.10stderrNope. I just verify the latest versions of Firefox/Safari.
17:31.44fungusI don't do that kind of verification, but the how part can be done with virtualization
17:31.57fungus~virtualization++
17:40.41justincarmonyok, oh shell masters in the channel... how could I craft a command to delete all sub directories in a directory, but not the files in the directory?
17:41.39DexterTheDragonjustincarmony: just one level?
17:42.18crodeleting all the subdirs will by design delete everything underneath.
17:42.22justincarmonyyeah
17:42.25crofind . -type d exec rm {} \;
17:42.43crooh
17:42.43DexterTheDragonyep what he said
17:42.43croI mean
17:42.49crofind . -type d -exec rm -rf {} \;
17:42.55DexterTheDragonrmdir would probably be safer
17:42.56crotest with caution :-D
17:43.15justincarmonyso I want to delete all the sub directories and the files within them, but not the files inside the main directory
17:43.16justincarmonyyeah
17:43.24DexterTheDragonthat will find hidden folders too
17:43.39crormdir won't work, will it?  it fails if there are files in the subdir.
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18:16.53DexterTheDragonmindjuju: http://www.di.fm/mp3/vocaltrance.pls
18:21.14mindjujuDexterTheDragon - this is good stuff
18:21.42DexterTheDragonyeah, its their new release
18:21.45mindjujuso the AMD Duron = Intel P3(light), yes?
18:21.54mindjujulike the duron was the cheap version of the athlon wasn't it?
18:22.06DexterTheDragonI have a bunch of other GT vs Project C, really like em
18:23.48DexterTheDragonmindjuju: http://generationtrance.com/mixes.php
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19:14.38utahconShop Smart... Shop S Mart
19:14.54mindjuju~boomstick utahcon
19:15.10mindjujuman, that needs to be remedied post haste
19:18.33jsmith~cluebat Utah_Dave
19:18.34ibotACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps Utah_Dave.
19:18.41jsmithAt least the cluebat still works
19:19.02jsmith~clue-by-four utahcon
19:19.07mindjujunah, utah_dave deserves 'em
19:19.25mindjuju~nosepick utah_dave
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19:20.00Utah_Dave:(
19:20.06Utah_Dave~tunafart mindjuju
19:20.07ibotACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip.
19:20.49jsmithmindjuju: You forget how far away I am... that's just gonna make the stink linger over... say... Nebraska?
19:21.36mindjujunow that you mention it, the probability of it making it over the rockies is v low
19:21.43utahconI thought we sold Nebraska?
19:22.05mindjujudoes anybody even live in nebraska?
19:22.21utahconIsn't it home to the russians?
19:23.43jsmithutahcon: No, that was North Dakota... we sold it to Canadia for a decent hockey team
19:24.09utahconjsmith: you lie
19:24.15utahconthat or we got rooked
19:49.40Utah_DaveAh, finally got my fon router flashed with dd-wrt
19:49.48Utah_Davemuch mo betta
19:50.14jsmithUtah_Dave: Which version of the fon?  The original fonera?
19:50.27Utah_Davethe small 2100
19:50.51Utah_DaveIt's great for traveling when my hotel only has a wired internet connection
19:52.07Utah_Daveit's not the original linksys hardware
19:57.02Utah_DaveAnyway, dd-wrt is really sweet.
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20:42.57cycokilraw yeah
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21:10.10tierrawhat type of db field do you guys usually use to store a percentage (between 0% and 100%)
21:16.38stderrdecimal to whatever precision you need.
21:17.15tierraso, DECIMAL(2,2) then?
21:17.46tierraor would that have to be DECIMAL(3,2) to account for 1.00?
21:20.41cycokilrfloat
21:20.44cycokilronly whole numbers
21:21.12stderrdon't use floats in databases unless there is a compelling reason to do so in the business logic.
21:21.18stderrwhich there isn't.
21:21.24stderrdecimal(3, 2) should be right, tierra.
21:22.56cycokilrthere's nothing wrong with using float if i need no decimal precision..
21:23.03cycokilrfag
21:23.46DexterTheDragonwhy use a float for whole numbers? why not use int?
21:24.05cycokilryeah that would work too
21:24.06stderr^- Exactly.
21:24.16stderrif he doesn't need precision, he can use an integer.
21:24.26stderrif he does need precision, he uses a decimal.
21:24.37cycokilryeah i learned from synic
21:24.46stderrThere's no excuse to use a float in this situation unless he has a _compelling_ reason to do so.  Which he doesn't, so far.
21:25.26croin fact, it can skew your math in some cases
21:25.44cycokilryeah if used incorrectly, of course.
21:25.57crodepending on context, int + float will generate a float, might not be what you want.
21:33.20tierrawell, in this case, it's being used as a discount percentage, which is never going to need more than 1% precision
21:33.53tierraI'm aware of all the types, I was just curious what everyone preferred... either using an int from 1 to 100, or decimal
21:35.11DexterTheDragontierra: I usually use an int
21:36.21tierrawhat makes this is a little more interesting is whether I'd be doing the actual monetary calculations in the DB... decimal(X,2) * decimal(3,2) = discount (but is that resulting decimal(x,2) rounded? cuz it shouldn't be, it needs to be CEIL())
21:37.21tierrathe DB manual isn't really clear on that...
21:38.49tierrain fact, I'm not even really sure that the result is in fact a DECIMAL(X,2)...
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22:25.56mindjujui want a hot pecan pie and some icy cold milk
22:30.27beandogpumpkin > pecan
22:30.37mindjujui'm 6s on it
22:30.45mindjujusome days i'd agree, others i'd disagree
22:30.51mindjujuright now, i'm just hungry for pie
22:45.30unumdon't talk about pie!!!!
22:45.33unumgreat now I want pie
22:45.36unumjerks
22:52.55tierrawell, DECIMAL(X,2) * DECIMAL(3,2) does not return DECIMAL(X,2)...
22:53.22tierrathat's helpful actually
23:04.02cycokilrwhatever mathies
23:07.36fungusmmm, I'd like some "special" brownies tonight.  :)
23:08.13beandogok
23:08.16beandogIm going home
23:08.20beandogI think
23:08.27beandogseeya guys
23:22.57mindjujuwhere can i go to get some great fresh pie
23:24.30herlomindjuju: not in utah :)
23:24.34herlounless it's homemade
23:24.51herloalbeit, Marie Callendars has some good pie!
23:40.11fungus~wiki pi
23:44.16mindjujubbl

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