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00:15.46PoeticIntensity*yawn*
00:17.43Lone_WandererHello.
00:17.46Lone_WandererGo home, you lazy programmer.
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03:10.01JacolyteEvening, gentlemen.
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03:36.12*** topic/#uphpu is UTOS Conference Volunteers needed - http://tinyurl.com/UTOSvol | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org
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05:21.16supernoviacan I just say this is the coolest group? There, I said it.
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15:59.05thebigdogtop o' the morning
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16:11.13redroyMorning
16:12.16mgearymornin'
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16:35.59redroyI'm hoping to help out at the conference... I sent an email.
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17:26.25Jacob_KerrHey I have an htaccess question. I am using the following mod_rewrite and would like to put an array of REQUEST_URI on the same line at the top that match up to an array of RewrieRules at the bottom is this possible?
17:26.27Jacob_Kerrhttp://pastebin.com/d6aafbf58
17:31.18macnewboldi don't think you can use arrays in htaccess files
17:31.34macnewboldyou could potentially use a script to regenerate your htaccess though, whenever you change your URI list
17:32.05Jacob_Kerrbut it would need to copy all that for each URI huh..
17:32.56Jacob_KerrK, thanx man :)
17:39.07fungusJacob_Kerr: why bother with that first RewriteCond, the first param to RewriteRule is already matching against that.
17:39.58fungusRewriteRule /(.*) http://www.interbent.com/$1 [R=301,L]
17:40.22Jacob_KerrHmmm..
17:40.52Jacob_KerrThe htaccess I have not works well I just want to be able to does this to a list of URI that match up to a list of redirects.
17:40.59Jacob_Kerrnow*
17:41.15Jacob_KerrLOL typos do*
17:42.43fungusYou only want to redirect specific urls?
17:42.53Jacob_KerrYeah.
17:43.31Jacob_Kerrso if the user REQUEST_URI blah check all reffers and REDIRECT to blah you know..
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17:43.53fungusThere is still no need to check REQUEST_URI
17:43.59fungusdo that in the RewriteRule
17:44.19Jacob_Kerrawsome so how would I do that?
17:44.45fungusthe first param to RewriteRule is the matching on the URI
17:44.53Jacob_KerrI want a specific list of URI im not trying to modify URLs but redirect specific traffic
17:45.06fungusRewriteRule regextomatchuri newuri/url
17:45.45Jacob_KerrSo could i put a list of rules after the conditions and they will all work?
17:45.59fungusno
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17:46.12fungusonce you specify a rule, it resets the conditions
17:46.25Jacob_Kerrdamn.
17:46.47Jacob_KerrSo this tip just reduces one line of code in what I have eh.
17:46.59fungusThere is another ugly way to handle multiple uris
17:47.07Jacob_Kerrdoes not allow me to do a list without having to repeat all the conditions
17:47.26Jacob_KerrWhat's that.
17:47.29fungusRewriteRule /(uri1|uri2|uri3) http://www.interbent.com/$1 [R=301,L]
17:48.06Jacob_Kerrbut those will redirect all to the same place right?
17:48.14fungusif you are using mod_rewrite, you should take advantage of the fact that you are using regex for matching
17:48.28fungus$1 refers to whatever is in the parentheses
17:49.53fungusoh, duh.  your usage of mod_rewrite is exactly what RewriteMap was made for.
17:50.18Jacob_KerrHmmm RewriteMap maybe that's what I need eh :)
17:50.45DexterTheDragonhttp://www.linux-mag.com/id/7480/2/ <-- RewriteMap info
17:51.15Jacob_KerrThanx man
17:52.02PoeticIntensityyo, Jacob_Kerr...  You still working for Steve?
17:52.12Jacob_KerrNo I am doing freelance.
17:52.17PoeticIntensityawesome...
17:52.21PoeticIntensityglad to hear it...
17:52.25PoeticIntensitymissed ya at the last LAN party.
17:52.31Jacob_KerrSorry dude :)
17:52.34PoeticIntensityit's all good.
17:52.49PoeticIntensityjust happy to reconnect...
17:52.57PoeticIntensityfreelance going good?
17:53.15Jacob_KerrAlright I'm looking for something full time inhouse now.
17:53.21PoeticIntensityI see...
17:53.24fungusJacob_Kerr: FYI if your intent is to redirect high traffic to another host, you should probably think about redirecting supporting URIs as well.  CSS, JS, images, etc
17:54.05PoeticIntensityif you're not signed up for the UPHPU-jobs list, you should be...  Lots of good opps coming through.
17:54.17Jacob_KerrSweet I will look into that.
17:56.24Jacob_KerrAwsome Rewritemap is exactly what I need thanx guys :)
17:59.01mgearyJacob_Kerr: you're looking for FT work?
17:59.06fungusJust be careful not to abuse it.  Think about limits and when to move in a different direction
17:59.13Jacob_KerrYeah
18:11.19wpsthanks for that ten things about Apache link, DexterTheDragon
18:11.21wpsgood stuff in there
18:16.27DexterTheDragonwps: yeah I think Utah_Dave originally posted that in here
18:16.39wpsI'll let you have the credit
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18:55.14Jacob_KerrEverytime i slip this into my htaccess i get the good old 500 RewriteMap urimap txt:/var/www/vhosts/interbent.com/httpdocs/urimap.txt
19:02.42utahconDexterTheDragon: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html
19:02.52utahconmy Aunt's rocket being tested live right now
19:03.00DexterTheDragonyeah watching
19:03.09utahconmy Aunt designed that one
19:03.15DexterTheDragonreally wish I could have gone up
19:05.06DexterTheDragonwould really love to get back up there again and watch one
19:05.51DexterTheDragonbeen an awesome day on nasatv today
19:11.00DexterTheDragonutahcon: my mom can see the cloud from her house
19:11.12utahconNice.
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21:21.23orsonjhttp://www.grc.com/dev/dnsbench.exe <-- How good are your dns servers
21:22.37orsonj(works fine in wine)
21:22.39SunSparcorsonj: Good enough not to need a Windows executable.
21:22.45SunSparc;)
21:24.05SunSparcWhat does that app test?
21:24.19DexterTheDragondns servers?
21:24.26SunSparcheh
21:24.38orsonjIt is a dns speed benchmark. It comes with a list of publicly available dns servers and compares yours with those on the list.
21:24.39SunSparcI mean, what about the dns servers?
21:24.58SunSparcAh, nice.
21:26.09orsonjhttp://orson.tetratech.info/oj_dns.png
21:26.40orsonjAs I said, it works fine in wine. Steve Gibson (the author) took some extra time to make sure it worked in wine.
21:27.17orsonjred is cached speed, green is uncached and blue is root server lookups.
21:27.36DexterTheDragonmaybe he shoulda just coded it cross platform
21:27.50orsonjhe works in assembly, not exactly easy
21:27.51fungusHe doesn't know how.
21:28.06fungusHe's a windows guy
21:28.35orsonjright, but he was nice enough to work out bugs that happened in wine, so cross platform enough.
21:31.49orsonjIt also checks to see if your dns servers do the opendns thing where non registered dns names go to a "helpful search page"
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22:10.09mindjuju~apb dexterthedragon
22:10.10ibotACTION summons Dog the Bounty Hunter to spray mace at dexterthedragon
22:10.19DexterTheDragon~dtdhit mindjuju
22:10.20ibotACTION stikes at mindjuju with the fire of the cat seizure causing a very bad flesh wound!
22:10.24mindjujuyipes!
22:10.33DexterTheDragonUtah_Dave: ping
22:10.48Utah_DaveDexterTheDragon: pong!
22:11.00DexterTheDragonUtah_Dave: going to the python meeting tonight?
22:12.02Utah_DaveI really want to. It's so close. I'm trying to find a babysitter. My wife's out of town
22:12.18Utah_DaveHow about you?
22:12.31DexterTheDragonyeep
22:13.04Utah_Davecool.
22:13.27Utah_DaveShould be good.
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23:05.10redroy_nick redroy
23:05.32mgeary~taunt redroy_
23:05.33ibotACTION taunts redroy_ a second time
23:05.34redroy_lol
23:05.40redroy_forgot the slash
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23:06.33redroy_So, I'm listening to Muse's new album right now.. pretty cool.
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23:11.33Jacob_Kerranyone know what i can use to open a 600 MB error log LOL
23:11.54wpsvi
23:11.55mindjuju~apb dexterthedragon
23:11.56ibotACTION hires Beth to spray mace at dexterthedragon
23:12.05SunSparcvim++
23:12.05DexterTheDragonmindjuju: yes?
23:12.13fungusgrep
23:12.14DexterTheDragon~vim++
23:12.23Jacob_KerrK
23:12.26SunSparcMS Word
23:12.28SunSparclol
23:12.31wpsha ha hah a ha ha
23:12.31fungusmysql load data infile
23:12.39SunSparcLOL
23:13.03Jacob_KerrYeah damn idiots let their log get to 600 MB LOL..
23:13.28SunSparcI say, let THEM open it.
23:13.32Jacob_KerrLOL
23:13.52Jacob_KerrYet rigth MS Word.. I tried it ;)
23:13.52SunSparcThat'll learn em.
23:13.56Jacob_KerrYeah.
23:14.20SunSparcvi, less, tail
23:14.23SunSparcLater all
23:14.42Jacob_Kerrbb
23:14.55fungusawstats, webalizer, ....
23:15.07DexterTheDragoncat
23:15.26fungushttp://sial.org/howto/shell/useless-cat/
23:15.48DexterTheDragonI enjoy useless uses of cat
23:16.20DexterTheDragonextra process spawning ftw
23:16.30fungus~shame DexterTheDragon
23:16.31ibotShame on you DexterTheDragon!
23:19.09Jacob_KerrLOL
23:19.52fungus~dance
23:19.53ibot<(*.*<) <(*.*)> \(*.*)/ (>*.*)>
23:19.53mindjuju~apb utah_Dave
23:19.54ibotACTION hires Dog the Bounty Hunter to spray mace at utah_Dave
23:20.30Utah_DaveSweet! I got Dog and not his little helper!
23:20.39mindjujuwhen ibot is facing you, it kinda looks like rosy the robot from jetsons <(*.*)>
23:24.19Jacob_KerrHey guys I'm doing a rewritemap in htaccess (mod_rewrite stuff) and I get this error what do you think it is? /var/www/vhosts/interbent.com/httpdocs/.htaccess: RewriteMap not allowed here
23:24.59fungusrewritemap isn't allowed in a .htaccess file
23:25.20fungusonly in the main config or vhost
23:25.31Jacob_KerrHmmm.. So where would one put it?
23:25.36fungusvhost
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23:26.22Jacob_Kerrcrap I do not think I have access to that :(
23:27.07fungusdoh
23:28.39Jacob_KerrI do not get why it is not allowed in the htaccess :(. Should be I think. Damn...
23:29.16fungusApache opens the map file, or starts the program at start, and keeps it open constantly.
23:29.30fungus.htaccess files are read per request, not at startup
23:30.19Jacob_KerrI c.
23:32.16mindjujuk, am i nuts, or is this guy?
23:32.17mindjujuhttp://www.ksl.com/index.php?sid=733005&nid=443&tab=images/view&ad=1523161
23:32.24mindjuju$750 for his car
23:32.30mindjujudon't forget to click on picture 3
23:33.18fungusouch
23:33.40fungusbut $750 isn't nuts.  there's valuable parts still.
23:33.58mindjujulike the door handles?
23:33.58fungusMost of the value is in the front anyway
23:34.02fungusengine
23:34.04fungusseats
23:34.08fungusdashboard
23:34.12fungusradio
23:34.14fungus...
23:34.14mindjujuyeah, but for $725?
23:34.17fungusyup
23:34.26mindjujuyou're car would have to be the exact opposite for this to be of value
23:34.40fungusIf you sold the parts you'd make at least 1k, perhaps 2
23:34.42tierrayou could easily get $750 worth of parts out of that
23:36.13fungusmindjuju: may of the engine parts will fit a lot of cars, not to mention that the Toyota Corolla was very popular
23:37.26mindjujuyeah, i'm looking to buy one since supernovia gets 35+ mpg
23:37.35mindjujui travel fiddy miles a day
23:37.38mindjuju...sigh...
23:39.01tierrabut I also carpool to work with one other coworker...
23:39.15mindjuju~lart fungus for his earth saving 11 miles commute
23:39.15ibotpulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps fungus for his earth saving 11 miles commute
23:39.45mindjujuand you just traded your clunker, so now your mpg is prolly super good too!
23:40.35fungus36mpg so far
23:41.05mindjujuso guys, i've foobed on something and need some help
23:41.14fungus~foobar mindjuju
23:41.15ibotfungus: mindjuju
23:41.15mindjujutotally blind sided by this
23:42.25mindjujuso, I schedule our presentations months in advance, into my personal google calendar, then a week out, I contact the person and start to ask them for bio / presentation info /etc  And, it's a system that's worked well for years until today, when to my horror, i realized back in March, i planned out all the way to August
23:42.31mindjujubut there is no september
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23:42.43Jacob_KerrA question I asked earlier and since I can not do rewritemap I'm asking again: :(
23:42.44Jacob_KerrHey I have an htaccess question. I am using the following mod_rewrite and would like to put an array of REQUEST_URI on the same line at the top that match up to an array of RewrieRules at the bottom is this possible? http://pastebin.com/d6aafbf58
23:42.52mindjujuie, i need to plan out the rest of the year
23:43.01mindjujubut i've got 1 week to the next meeting
23:43.09mindjujusooooo.....
23:43.19mindjujuwho here would like to present on a topic of their choice?
23:43.32mindjuju<crickets>Any one?</crickets>
23:43.44Jacob_Kerrlol
23:43.45mindjuju...crickets...
23:44.08mindjuju...crickets...
23:44.21mindjujucome on tierra!  you know you want to!
23:44.32fungusJacob_Kerr: no, it's not possible to do it that way.
23:44.34mindjujuyour last presentation on mediawiki was a success!
23:44.50mindjujuor was that the time before yoru last?
23:44.55Jacob_KerrYeah I'm going to have to copy the lines over again for each one eh..
23:45.10fungusor have a really long regex in your RewriteRule
23:45.27fungushow many URLs are you trying to rewrite?
23:45.49Jacob_KerrCould end up being like 100 max
23:45.53mindjujucourse fungus's presentation on SSL certs was LEGEND
23:45.57Jacob_Kerrprob as less as 20
23:45.59tierraI was debating a talk on MediaWiki/MWP or SVN last time, and it ended up being SVN, and yeah, I had way more material than we had time to cover
23:46.21mindjujunot only that, but it prompted me to launch a mediawiki server
23:46.28tierraheh
23:46.29mindjujuwhich is in heavy internal use to this day!
23:46.34tierranice
23:46.48Jacob_KerrI just do not get how I could do it with a regex would you be willing to show me an example? You would be a life saver dude..
23:47.20tierramy brother is flying in from New York to visit next week, I don't think I'll even be able to show up to the meeting
23:47.22fungusJacob_Kerr: ditch line 2, and change line 21 to "RewriteRule /(URI1|URI2|URI3|etc) http://www.interbent.com/$1 ...
23:47.36mindjujudag!
23:47.43Jacob_Kerrwhat is the redirect is to another server?
23:48.43Jacob_Kerror domain i mean.
23:50.02fungusI don't understand your q?
23:51.07fungushttp://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html#rewriterule
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23:51.20tierrawow, that SVN presentation was way back in October, 2007
23:51.26tierraI didn't think it was that long ago
23:51.36fungusRewriteRule _Pattern_ _Substitution_ [_options_]
23:51.45mindjujutierra, actually, i think that was the very first after hours party
23:51.52Jacob_KerrSo what you sent will check if a user wants to go to a directory named "URI1" and if so redirect them to "URI1-Redirect" and if they go to "URI2" redirect them to "URI2_Redirect"
23:51.58mindjujuremember we went to Betos?
23:52.04mindjujustayed till like 11p or so?
23:52.25tierrahaha, oh yeah
23:52.52Jacob_KerrK I will read through this stuff. Thanx :)
23:53.10tierraoh yeah, way past time to leave
23:53.12tierraheh
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