| 00:00.12 | super_no_via | it was only 1.5 miles but I was so slow. I'll get better though |
| 00:00.59 | mindjuju | i'm thinking of doing that UVU wellness program with the podometer |
| 00:01.16 | mindjuju | pedometer ? |
| 00:01.37 | super_no_via | pedometer - yeah - hadn't heard of that program |
| 00:01.56 | super_no_via | I do know I'm clocking at least 2 miles per day just for classes though |
| 00:02.08 | mindjuju | how many classes you takning? |
| 00:02.14 | super_no_via | since I got the middle-of-nowhere parking lot |
| 00:02.17 | super_no_via | 5 |
| 00:02.34 | mindjuju | yeah, was going to say |
| 00:02.39 | mindjuju | seems like you mentioned it before |
| 00:02.56 | mindjuju | what are you going to do when it snows? |
| 00:02.58 | super_no_via | I think it's .8 miles to the CS building |
| 00:03.18 | super_no_via | hopefully ride UTA. my sad lil' car doesn't do well in the snow anyway |
| 00:03.26 | super_no_via | that or buy myself some heavy duty boots |
| 00:03.52 | super_no_via | they do have shuttle too but my timing's always off |
| 00:04.06 | mindjuju | yeah, i need to cut back on fuel |
| 00:04.10 | mindjuju | trying to figure out what to do |
| 00:04.26 | super_no_via | $20 uta pass might help |
| 00:04.40 | mindjuju | yup, got it |
| 00:05.04 | mindjuju | so your car no worky in the snow? |
| 00:05.25 | super_no_via | it works, I've just been stuck @ the bottom of the dip by the kids school a few too many times |
| 00:05.36 | mindjuju | ah |
| 00:06.01 | super_no_via | if I can keep up my speed I do OK. if someone in front of me stops, I'm toast (and there's a stoplight at the top of the lesser dip) |
| 00:06.16 | mindjuju | ah yes, i know what you mean |
| 00:06.28 | mindjuju | i like my jeep, but i need something for the summer |
| 00:06.54 | super_no_via | jeeps are not for summer? |
| 00:07.58 | mindjuju | well they are, but i need something that gets more MPG |
| 00:08.05 | mindjuju | i drive 50 miles a day |
| 00:08.23 | mindjuju | that, plus school, plus food, plus plus plus |
| 00:08.35 | mindjuju | money is a bit pinchy at our house |
| 00:08.47 | mindjuju | i wish i still had my hyndai |
| 00:08.51 | super_no_via | 50 miles per day . ouch |
| 00:08.55 | mindjuju | now THERE was a vehicle |
| 00:09.04 | mindjuju | it got just under 30 miles a gallon |
| 00:09.07 | super_no_via | money is pinchy here too but the corolla helps - usually |
| 00:09.23 | super_no_via | oh my corolla, I am such a stingy driver .. I get 45ish |
| 00:09.33 | mindjuju | YOUR KIDDING |
| 00:09.36 | super_no_via | Nope |
| 00:09.45 | mindjuju | NO WAY |
| 00:09.53 | mindjuju | really? |
| 00:09.54 | super_no_via | It's normally about 38-40 anyway |
| 00:10.04 | mindjuju | wow, that's what i need |
| 00:10.13 | mindjuju | this is the bondo car were talking aobut? |
| 00:10.21 | super_no_via | I think the new passat gets 50 something |
| 00:10.30 | super_no_via | Yeah, the bondo (now sparkely) car |
| 00:10.52 | mindjuju | i've got to get one of those |
| 00:10.58 | super_no_via | You should. |
| 00:11.13 | super_no_via | KBB says my car is only worth about 2K |
| 00:11.26 | mindjuju | ouchy |
| 00:11.27 | super_no_via | (given its history of being a dodge ram magnet) |
| 00:11.46 | mindjuju | i'm sure it's worth it, but that's out of our budget by like |
| 00:11.50 | mindjuju | $2000 |
| 00:11.52 | mindjuju | :) |
| 00:11.54 | super_no_via | heheh |
| 00:12.03 | super_no_via | I should name my car James Bondo |
| 00:12.10 | mindjuju | :) |
| 00:12.15 | mindjuju | would be way cool |
| 00:12.34 | super_no_via | and install some cool gadgets and stuff. Like... an over-the-seat crayon holder.. |
| 00:12.48 | mindjuju | http://provo.craigslist.org/cto/1355629359.html |
| 00:12.52 | super_no_via | (for the twistables since they don't melt in the car) |
| 00:14.32 | mindjuju | what a bunch of DOGS!!! - http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/ctd/1351747039.html |
| 00:14.44 | mindjuju | it says $100 but when you click on it, it says 5k |
| 00:15.01 | super_no_via | What~! |
| 00:15.03 | super_no_via | Jerks. |
| 00:16.04 | mindjuju | i think you're right, i need to find a corolla and fast |
| 00:16.18 | mindjuju | that would double and some my current gas |
| 00:16.30 | super_no_via | They're good little cars. |
| 00:17.11 | super_no_via | Mine is a 2003, about 127K miles, never needed anything but oil/filter changes and new tires |
| 00:17.17 | mindjuju | fortunately, i don't care what the car looks like |
| 00:17.24 | mindjuju | but it MUST have a decent sound system |
| 00:17.36 | super_no_via | (and occasionally some dent repair ;-)) |
| 00:17.42 | mindjuju | and by decent, at least a home speaker rigged into the radio to work |
| 00:17.50 | super_no_via | heheh |
| 00:17.59 | mindjuju | and must be loud to sound out any engiine noises |
| 00:20.45 | super_no_via | mine just have to be loud enough to drown out my own voice as I sing along -) |
| 00:21.44 | mindjuju | k, i'm done shopping for cars, but I know what I need to do |
| 00:21.49 | mindjuju | get money and buy corolla |
| 00:21.54 | mindjuju | now back to UTOS promo |
| 00:22.03 | mindjuju | (and a quick bite of food!) |
| 00:22.20 | super_no_via | seriously a good car. check the MPG first though (maybe 2003 was a special year or something) |
| 00:22.36 | mindjuju | i saw a 1997 on craigslist that said 35 |
| 00:22.38 | super_no_via | oh I've had my thursday night granola. Have a good dinner! |
| 00:22.42 | mindjuju | that's pleanty better for me |
| 00:22.43 | super_no_via | nice! |
| 00:23.04 | mindjuju | thursday night granola ? |
| 00:23.21 | super_no_via | yeah I don't feel like cooking on thursdays |
| 00:24.16 | super_no_via | so I had granola (stocked up from when it was <$2/lb at sunflower) + some berries my neighbor gave me |
| 00:24.42 | mindjuju | sunflower rocks |
| 00:25.10 | mindjuju | what do the kids eat on Thursday? |
| 00:27.11 | super_no_via | whatever their dad gives em |
| 00:27.56 | mindjuju | ah, it's his night |
| 00:28.00 | super_no_via | yeah |
| 00:28.13 | mindjuju | well, in that case you should be making Tuscan Chicken on rice pilaf |
| 00:28.19 | super_no_via | heheh |
| 00:28.54 | mindjuju | and then watches an X file while eating |
| 00:30.16 | super_no_via | heheh, that's awesome |
| 00:30.16 | mindjuju | hey DtD, how is the new homestead? |
| 00:31.03 | mindjuju | dexterthedragon ^^ |
| 00:31.07 | super_no_via | I think he's outside |
| 00:31.19 | mindjuju | ah |
| 00:34.10 | super_no_via | Well, hmm. No luck in my search for the perfect font. |
| 00:34.16 | super_no_via | yet. |
| 00:34.52 | mindjuju | what kind of font |
| 00:34.59 | mindjuju | what you using it for? |
| 00:35.13 | mindjuju | where you looking? |
| 00:35.22 | super_no_via | extrablack, linear, gpl-ish |
| 00:35.35 | super_no_via | it's for that UTOS logo |
| 00:35.45 | mindjuju | does it HAVE to be GPL? |
| 00:36.08 | super_no_via | I don't know really |
| 00:36.17 | mindjuju | font factory has some stuff |
| 00:36.23 | mindjuju | and the one from adobe is pretty good |
| 00:36.33 | super_no_via | whether it -has- to be but ideally it probably should be |
| 00:36.44 | herlo | ofl, gpl |
| 00:36.50 | herlo | but it's not a hard requirement |
| 00:36.55 | herlo | just looking to see if we can find one |
| 00:36.59 | mindjuju | ~wtf ofl |
| 00:37.03 | super_no_via | hehe |
| 00:37.05 | herlo | open font license |
| 00:37.19 | herlo | ibot: ofl is open font license |
| 00:37.19 | ibot | herlo: okay |
| 00:37.26 | herlo | ~wtf ofl |
| 00:37.37 | herlo | ~wiki ofl |
| 00:37.49 | herlo | :) |
| 00:38.04 | super_no_via | hehe |
| 00:38.25 | herlo | thanks for trying super_no_via, glad you humored me |
| 00:38.36 | herlo | enjoy the meeting at yer kids school |
| 00:38.38 | super_no_via | want to keep trying? |
| 00:38.52 | super_no_via | well, I mean so we can keep the new logo - I really like it... |
| 00:46.46 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: its good. lots of work |
| 00:47.20 | super_no_via | time to go. Let me know if you find one that fits that. Maybe beteckna could be used and tweaked manually |
| 00:47.29 | super_no_via | see ya guys |
| 00:48.11 | mindjuju | just got back from microwave |
| 00:48.12 | mindjuju | cya |
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| 01:59.45 | herlo | the logo can stay either way |
| 01:59.50 | herlo | mindjuju: ^^ |
| 02:00.04 | herlo | tell super_no_via that, next time you see her |
| 02:00.12 | mindjuju | k |
| 02:00.35 | mindjuju | what up with that other font she was wanting to use? |
| 02:01.14 | DexterTheDragon | herlo: she is on twitter |
| 02:04.20 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: I know |
| 02:04.29 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: she's also on facebook |
| 02:04.38 | herlo | but I like having live conversations |
| 02:05.24 | DexterTheDragon | except for the fact that you were leaving a message through mindjuju :P |
| 02:07.53 | mindjuju | man, what is up with people playing crap tonight |
| 02:08.59 | DexterTheDragon | I think the broncos are playing pretty well right now... |
| 02:09.32 | mindjuju | oh, i meant music |
| 02:09.35 | mindjuju | i'm not near a TV |
| 02:11.38 | mindjuju | k, this is getting serious |
| 02:11.55 | DexterTheDragon | yeah it is, they just got another turnover |
| 02:11.57 | DexterTheDragon | :) |
| 02:12.03 | mindjuju | who did? |
| 02:12.10 | DexterTheDragon | the broncos |
| 02:12.36 | mindjuju | oh a 3! I'm momentarily distracted by my plight |
| 02:15.00 | herlo | lol |
| 02:16.11 | mindjuju | it's my fault really, i've taken home my music server for the "Great Synchronization" |
| 02:16.22 | mindjuju | with the mother server at home |
| 02:17.16 | DexterTheDragon | heh |
| 02:20.29 | mindjuju | ~apb herlo |
| 02:20.30 | ibot | ACTION calls Duane Lee to find herlo |
| 02:20.40 | mindjuju | oh wait, i know how to find it |
| 02:22.07 | herlo | mindjuju: hi |
| 02:22.16 | herlo | I ponged anyway :) |
| 02:22.33 | mindjuju | who gets top billing on keynotes? |
| 02:22.36 | mindjuju | stormy? |
| 02:23.55 | herlo | dunno, why? |
| 02:24.05 | herlo | I think it depends on our focus? |
| 02:24.42 | mindjuju | on the promo |
| 02:24.49 | mindjuju | in a box called Conference Highlights |
| 02:24.52 | herlo | we have the theme with Stormy, but we have Reliability with Adobe... |
| 02:25.04 | mindjuju | here, go to quick grab |
| 02:25.07 | herlo | yeah, keynotes are important, hrm... |
| 02:25.09 | herlo | kk |
| 02:25.11 | mindjuju | i'll have it there in a sec with geek |
| 02:25.20 | herlo | np, I have to start dropbox anyways |
| 02:25.52 | mindjuju | k, it's there now, let me know |
| 02:25.57 | mindjuju | she's first, dave is sec |
| 02:26.04 | mindjuju | darren is third |
| 02:26.07 | herlo | daren |
| 02:26.17 | herlo | 0:) |
| 02:26.23 | mindjuju | specialized track isn't finsihed |
| 02:26.29 | herlo | looking |
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| 13:56.03 | herlo | unum: ping |
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| 14:50.09 | unum | herlo: pong |
| 14:52.29 | herlo | unum: hi |
| 14:52.40 | herlo | you already replied to my email... |
| 14:52.52 | herlo | guess I should pick a communication medium and stick to it :) |
| 14:54.17 | unum | I don't know any U students |
| 14:54.24 | herlo | nw |
| 14:54.40 | unum | I know some former USU students still kicking around as staff |
| 14:54.45 | herlo | I thought I had one but I don't either... |
| 14:55.09 | herlo | unum: I might be able to use that.. though I think I have a guy at USU that can help canvass. Maybe it's good to double up |
| 14:55.36 | herlo | time to get ready for VeloSLC though, bbl |
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| 15:41.51 | DexterTheDragon | so sad that Utah Code Camp is nothing but windows stuff |
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| 15:54.25 | orsonj | http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/ |
| 15:54.43 | orsonj | How many petabytes of storage do you think you can get for a million dollars |
| 15:55.21 | DexterTheDragon | saw that yesterday. that is the sexiest piece of hardware |
| 15:56.48 | supernovia | it's even red. Rawr. |
| 15:59.54 | orsonj | 67TB server for under $8000 |
| 16:00.19 | DexterTheDragon | if I could get my hands on their case I would totally do it |
| 16:00.39 | supernovia | lol |
| 16:01.22 | orsonj | It's small enough you could stick it behind a similarly priced tv |
| 16:01.51 | supernovia | definitely cool |
| 16:05.17 | supernovia | rubber bands - who knew |
| 16:07.08 | supernovia | this is why industrial designers who tweak products (like server cases) are just rad. |
| 16:10.39 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, that would be sweet if you could call up their case manufacturer and order that exact case. |
| 16:12.46 | fungus | other than the Sun Fire X4500 series, it's the only time i've seen hard drives oriented that way. |
| 16:13.19 | Utah_Dave | I bet that sucker is really heavy when it's loaded with all the drives. |
| 16:14.08 | fungus | hell yeah. My X4500 was way heavy, the manual said it required a lift to be installed with the hard drives installed. |
| 16:14.25 | fungus | I cheated... removed the drives, mounted server, installed the drives |
| 16:14.50 | supernovia | yeah that'd be the way to go |
| 16:15.05 | supernovia | would kinda suck to have a stack of those things and have to get in and replace bad drives every now and then |
| 16:15.33 | fungus | not really, the server can just pull out like a drawer on it's rails |
| 16:15.34 | Utah_Dave | Huh, they do provide the 3D model for their enclosure. I wonder how much it would cost to have just one made |
| 16:16.17 | fungus | If you cable it well, it's super simple to open the "drawer", pop out a bad drive, and put in a new one. |
| 16:16.25 | supernovia | $758 if you find the right place, apparently |
| 16:17.09 | supernovia | they'd be some heavy drawers though |
| 16:17.38 | fungus | yeah, but with good rails it's still not a problem. |
| 16:19.10 | supernovia | ah is that what that is in the photo? (I've mainly worked with remote DCs.. and the only one I ever worked inside was pretty . um, yeah. Not like that.) |
| 16:19.59 | supernovia | all random boxes and postit notes |
| 16:24.04 | mindjuju | ~apb supernovia |
| 16:24.05 | ibot | ACTION calls Leland to stake out supernovia |
| 16:24.24 | supernovia | Leland? |
| 16:24.43 | mindjuju | that's a guy from Dog the bounty hunter |
| 16:24.53 | mindjuju | any ways, herlo said this for you yesterday |
| 16:24.55 | mindjuju | (7:59:36 PM) herlo: the logo can stay either way |
| 16:24.59 | supernovia | holla |
| 16:25.08 | mindjuju | como estas? |
| 16:25.33 | supernovia | bien! Only I don't know how to spell it. |
| 16:25.37 | supernovia | I am glad to hear that. |
| 16:26.16 | supernovia | I looked for fonts for about another hour last night after I got back from that school meeting |
| 16:26.24 | supernovia | (which ended at like, midnight) |
| 16:26.57 | mindjuju | which school meeting? |
| 16:26.59 | mindjuju | UVU? |
| 16:26.59 | supernovia | and was starting to feel like it was all in vain |
| 16:27.04 | supernovia | No this was for my kids school |
| 16:27.11 | supernovia | and it was a bit of a fiasco really |
| 16:27.22 | mindjuju | ah |
| 16:27.35 | tierra | someone did a very detailed analysis of the backblaze custom case making some very good points about how you get what you pay for since in this case, they're using port multipliers that are overloading the 3.0Gbps SATA channels, and then tossing those on a PCIe bridge that constricts the bandwidth even more, and if either of the power supplies go out, the whole system is screwed, and to top it all off, the case isn't designed well to handle drive/fan ... |
| 16:27.36 | supernovia | apparently there was a bit of an unfortunate budget cut |
| 16:27.41 | tierra | ... vibrations, and the desktop drives used aren't designed to be running at the much higher temperature that they would be in that case |
| 16:27.48 | Utah_Dave | Oh, cool! the readme in the 3d model download says that www.protocase.com will produce the case in quantities as low as one |
| 16:28.35 | supernovia | and so there were rumors saying show up for this board meeting. Only it was a work session |
| 16:28.58 | supernovia | and they said there was no public comment and since the issue wasn't on the agenda they weren't going to address it |
| 16:29.04 | supernovia | which did not go over well as you might imagine |
| 16:29.09 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 16:29.17 | mindjuju | you don't want to upset the local tax payers |
| 16:29.23 | supernovia | right |
| 16:29.25 | fungus | tierra: good points, but backblaze uses these as redundant nodes in their cloud, so those are not big problems to them. |
| 16:30.00 | mindjuju | having worked with school boards before (press), i've learned when you piss off the local citizenery like this by not adjusting the agenda |
| 16:30.04 | supernovia | next weeks board meeting aint gonna be pretty I am sure |
| 16:30.14 | mindjuju | you have parents that become super pissed and come back organized |
| 16:30.21 | mindjuju | with tons of parents |
| 16:30.41 | tierra | fungus: wish I could find that write up again... |
| 16:31.02 | supernovia | well, I could see whre they were coming from, they didn't realize it was going to bring people in and they weren't really prepared to discuss it |
| 16:31.47 | mindjuju | i can empathize |
| 16:31.56 | supernovia | so they stuck to the 'not on the agenda' bit saying they had to by law. I know all the people on the board except one though and yeah, I wouldn't want to be in their shoes either |
| 16:32.23 | supernovia | hopefully they'll sort it all out |
| 16:33.02 | mindjuju | ugh, i'm doing some grunt tech support at the moment, monitoring a chatroom where our clients talk during a radio broadcast |
| 16:33.19 | mindjuju | and one guy who has been trying to dial in, and who was becoming quite angry just got on the conference line |
| 16:33.21 | mindjuju | his problem?? |
| 16:33.27 | supernovia | ? |
| 16:33.34 | mindjuju | "Â Â Â didnt realize that you needed to dial the 1 before the area code. i am now connected by phone " |
| 16:33.41 | supernovia | bwhaha |
| 16:33.48 | mindjuju | that's just scary |
| 16:33.59 | mindjuju | and that is quote unquote verbatim |
| 16:34.11 | supernovia | only it probably isnt that funny if you've been dealing with him for more than a few minutes on this |
| 16:34.41 | mindjuju | it's not to bad, i'm just chillin', eating a pear and reading and helping |
| 16:34.46 | mindjuju | could be worse |
| 16:34.50 | mindjuju | i could be running laps |
| 16:35.27 | supernovia | yeah right around three gymns |
| 16:40.42 | herlo | supernovia: we loves you! |
| 16:41.14 | supernovia | Awe, thanks. I needed that. |
| 16:42.04 | herlo | supernovia: I know I'm a hardass about open source sometimes, but I really, really appreciate the effort and willingness to work with me :) |
| 16:42.40 | herlo | It's not because I want ot hurt projects, I think free and open source software has better solutions in many many ways, that's all. Sometimes, I am wrong. |
| 16:42.58 | supernovia | Fonts are tricky |
| 16:43.27 | herlo | I know. But then again, we did find a ton of good *free* fonts, didn't we? :) |
| 16:43.54 | supernovia | Tons of free fonts for certain and a few really good ones |
| 16:44.08 | herlo | okay |
| 16:44.12 | herlo | fair enough... |
| 16:44.27 | supernovia | not to be a font snob or anything ;) |
| 16:44.31 | stderr_ | whooo campin tonight |
| 16:44.57 | herlo | stderr: nice |
| 16:45.14 | stderr | sup herlo |
| 16:45.47 | stderr | you guys need any more volunteers for UTOSC? me and the gf could probably do whatevs. |
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| 16:47.18 | herlo | stderr: yeah, send an email, we can use many |
| 16:47.26 | herlo | volunteer@utos.org |
| 16:47.46 | mgeary | thebigdog: ping |
| 16:49.05 | stderr | herlo: fo sho |
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| 16:54.56 | herlo | great! |
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| 18:01.21 | thebigdog | quiet today |
| 18:01.28 | thebigdog | man i am ready for some luch |
| 18:01.48 | thebigdog | s/luch/lunch |
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| 18:06.44 | macnewbold1 | ~zippy |
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| 19:42.42 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 19:42.43 | ibot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, undertakingyou!" and lops off undertakingyou's head |
| 19:50.36 | mindjuju | ~lart macnewbold |
| 19:50.36 | ibot | beats macnewbold severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken |
| 19:50.50 | supernovia | Ouch |
| 19:51.09 | mindjuju | hey, your back supernovia |
| 19:51.14 | mindjuju | do you like galaxy quest? |
| 19:51.20 | supernovia | For a bit |
| 19:51.21 | supernovia | Me? |
| 19:51.25 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 19:52.38 | supernovia | I've never watched much TV |
| 19:52.46 | supernovia | I remember the movie though. it was pretty funny |
| 19:52.58 | mindjuju | yeah, that's what i was meaning |
| 19:53.14 | mindjuju | a good movie |
| 19:53.28 | supernovia | I saw it at Movies 8 when it was there.. that was the last time |
| 19:53.38 | supernovia | I am seriously such a loser when it comes to movies and tv |
| 19:54.14 | mindjuju | supernovia has ED-209 as an IRC bot sentry |
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| 20:22.24 | mgeary | ~wake thebigdog |
| 20:22.25 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on thebigdog and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
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| 21:38.38 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 21:38.39 | ibot | calls cro on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 21:39.57 | cro | ~rlart |
| 21:39.57 | ibot | judo chops supernovia_away_ |
| 21:40.22 | cro | it's an ~rlart party! |
| 21:40.27 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 21:40.28 | ibot | beats fungus to within 2.54cm of his life |
| 21:40.53 | fungus | ~lart mgeary |
| 21:40.53 | ibot | decapitates mgeary conan the destroyer style |
| 21:50.09 | wps | is there a javascript equivalent to floor()? |
| 21:50.24 | wps | Math.round rounds up or down (depending on which is closest |
| 21:50.27 | wps | I want to always round down |
| 21:51.47 | wps | ha ha |
| 21:51.49 | wps | look at that |
| 21:51.54 | wps | Math.floor() |
| 21:51.55 | wps | :) |
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| 22:42.13 | DexterTheDragon | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8237558.stm hehehehehe |
| 23:11.10 | _psychic_ | reminds me of the DHMO website. |
| 23:11.21 | _psychic_ | Though you really ought to know the Onion. |
| 23:11.36 | wps | Firefox's add-on search is great |
| 23:12.17 | wps | searching for "fire" nor "bug" returned "firebug" |
| 23:12.30 | wps | only "firebug" returned "firebug" |
| 23:12.44 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 23:13.03 | thebigdog | pretty good song - http://www.last.fm/music/Patrick+Park/_/Take+it+Back |
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