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| 03:19.17 | ubergoober | good evening. was wondering if anyone could tell me in what situation would using suphp be a necessity. I've got a server with one domain on it and there will only ever be one domain on it. Was wondering if I should still bother to use it or just install the suhosin patch? |
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| 05:38.14 | ggundy_ | Anyone have a min to give pointers to a non-PHP sysadmin? |
| 05:43.24 | herlo | ggundy_: whatcha need? |
| 05:43.52 | ggundy_ | herlo: Thanks! |
| 05:44.09 | herlo | sure |
| 05:44.24 | ggundy_ | So, it's apache and mod_php on ubuntu LTS and everything is mostly stock. |
| 05:44.53 | ggundy_ | they are someone elses sites and I've never poked at the code (and hope not to). |
| 05:45.02 | herlo | fun |
| 05:45.56 | ggundy_ | I put in a test php file and I get the info page -- you know the one you see as the universal php setup test. |
| 05:46.20 | herlo | right |
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| 05:46.51 | ggundy_ | So, that works, but when I expect the page to get served up (hitting index and not test url), I get a blank page. |
| 05:47.20 | herlo | anything in the logs? I'm sure you've looked there |
| 05:47.29 | ggundy_ | I know it being "found" because a non-php url (/fake-index.php) returns a 404. |
| 05:47.51 | ggundy_ | Yeah - logging is all the way up and I don't see anything - it's really, really strange. |
| 05:48.32 | herlo | yeah, you are missing a ; or something like that |
| 05:48.37 | herlo | can you pastebin your code... |
| 05:48.42 | herlo | or something? |
| 05:48.42 | ggundy_ | I haven't touched the php.ini as it's long and full of things that seem to be best left alone. |
| 05:49.14 | herlo | it's not your code is it? |
| 05:49.22 | ggundy_ | Well, the code works on another box. I've just rsynced it and chowned it. |
| 05:49.34 | ggundy_ | So, I just get a blank page. |
| 05:49.36 | herlo | ahh |
| 05:49.43 | ggundy_ | empty - nothing. |
| 05:49.55 | herlo | php versions maybe? |
| 05:50.34 | ggundy_ | So, I was hoping someone would just go, "oh yeah, that's common, just flip this bit." :) |
| 05:50.55 | ggundy_ | I was hoping not to go into that - they are the same major versions. |
| 05:51.03 | ggundy_ | I'll have to get more details... |
| 05:51.07 | ggundy_ | hold on.. |
| 05:52.37 | herlo | yeah, so far Ican't see why it would be like that |
| 05:52.51 | herlo | it's going to be something simple probably, but it'll take digging my guess |
| 05:53.16 | ggundy_ | both PHP 5.2.4 |
| 05:53.30 | ggundy_ | sucky |
| 05:54.11 | ggundy_ | We'll it good to talk to someone about it. Gets the juices going again. |
| 05:54.54 | herlo | yeah, good luck my man |
| 05:55.56 | ggundy_ | Any pointers on debugging? Something like pythons pdb? |
| 05:57.42 | herlo | oh, there is something. |
| 06:03.23 | ggundy_ | got a keyword for google to get me started in the right direction? |
| 06:04.48 | herlo | hang on |
| 06:04.53 | herlo | I'll ask another fellow to help |
| 06:05.39 | ggundy_ | herlo: thanks! |
| 06:05.49 | herlo | ggundy_: nw, sorry I didn't reply faster |
| 06:06.33 | herlo | 00:05 <@herlo> hey, you do php at work righ tnow right? |
| 06:06.33 | herlo | 00:05 <@herlo> is there a good php debugger? |
| 06:06.33 | herlo | 00:05 <@herlo> justincarmony: ^^ |
| 06:06.33 | herlo | 00:05 < justincarmony> Well, for the money Zend Studio + Zend Debugger rules |
| 06:06.33 | herlo | 00:06 <@herlo> well, it's not for me |
| 06:06.35 | herlo | 00:06 < justincarmony> Eclipse PDT or NetBeans also work well with xdebug |
| 06:06.36 | ggundy_ | no biggie |
| 06:06.38 | herlo | 00:06 < justincarmony> ^^ are free |
| 06:06.40 | herlo | ggundy_: hope that helps |
| 06:06.58 | herlo | I honestly don't do much with debuggers in php |
| 06:07.01 | herlo | and I love pdb |
| 06:07.06 | ggundy_ | print() ? |
| 06:07.08 | ggundy_ | ;) |
| 06:07.36 | ggundy_ | cool - well I have fresh courage. Thanks. |
| 06:07.42 | justincarmony | ggundy_: do you want to step through the code line by line with an IDE debugger? |
| 06:07.50 | justincarmony | or just spew info out on a page |
| 06:07.50 | ggundy_ | I'll bug you about utosc once I get this off my back. |
| 06:08.15 | ggundy_ | pref step on the console |
| 06:08.28 | ggundy_ | but spew to stdout works |
| 06:08.33 | herlo | ggundy_: cool, utosc needs some rocking people to attend :) |
| 06:08.37 | justincarmony | hrm, check out xdebug for php |
| 06:09.06 | ggundy_ | justincarmony: Cool - thanks! |
| 06:09.06 | justincarmony | I think that is what you're looking for |
| 06:09.12 | justincarmony | np :) |
| 06:16.13 | ggundy_ | I'm not entirely sure the apache config is guiltless. |
| 06:16.19 | ggundy_ | It's big and ugly. |
| 06:16.44 | ggundy_ | And not very well organized. |
| 06:26.57 | ggundy_ | Now we're getting somewhere... "...phps not found or unable to stat." |
| 06:28.51 | herlo | good |
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| 07:27.33 | ggundy_ | I quit. |
| 07:27.56 | ggundy_ | I'll humble myself and ask for help tomorrow. |
| 07:28.07 | ggundy_ | good night and thanks! |