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04:25.48jgiboneyanyone know about cpu registers?
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16:23.52beandogquick!  someone entertain me
16:24.02beandog~ondemand beandog
16:24.09herlono
16:24.27herlolol
16:33.27mgeary~dazzle beandog
16:41.06beandog~wow
16:54.05beandoghttp://www.flickr.com/photos/st3f4n/sets/72157616350171741/show/
16:55.26beandogthat is awesome :D
16:57.42DexterTheDragonbeandog: those are funny
16:57.53beandogbe careful, very addictive
16:57.58beandogthere are a ton of shots too
16:58.04beandogall really, really well done
17:04.35mgearyhey, so who here has already upgraded to Snow Leopard?
17:06.12mgearyand?
17:06.15mgearyanything break?
17:06.21mgearyesp. things like python scripts...?
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17:09.50itimberhey guys
17:13.33beandogheyo
17:27.23fungusI upgraded to Snow Leopard, no problems, but haven't tested in depth
17:28.16funguswell.. on one machine it reset some system preferences.
17:29.33fungushaven't dared upgrade my main WoW/DVD ripping iMac yet.
17:29.35mgearyi know it nukes a QT Pro install
17:29.40mgearybut you can apparently re-install that
17:30.01mgearyand i've read that some python CoreGraphics stuff has changed
17:31.18fungusI thought QT X replaced the need for Pro
17:31.25mgearynot sure
17:31.37mgearydoes it have the basic editing features?
17:34.54_psychic_I think so
17:35.44_psychic_http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/
18:21.33mgeary_psychic_: ""Unfortunately, the list of things you can't do with the new QuickTime Player is quite long. You can't cut, copy, and paste arbitrary portions of a movie (trimming only affects the ends); you can't extract or delete individual tracks or overlay one track onto another (optionally scaling to fit); you can't export a movie by choosing from the full set of available QuickTime audio and video codecs. All of these things were possible with the old QuickT
18:21.33mgearyPlayer—if, that is, you paid the $30 for a QuickTime Pro license. In the past, I've described this extra fee as "criminally stupid", but the features it enabled in QuickTime Player were really useful.""
18:23.50_psychic_I'm pretty sure it doesn't make donuts, either.
18:24.23_psychic_I'm not really a QT guy, so I don't really know about the changes, I just remember seeing a screenshot of some sort of editing interface.
18:58.31DexterTheDragonhttp://snowleopard.wikidot.com/
19:02.08funguseww, what a horrible listing.  It goes on for miles with useless OK entries
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19:47.57thebigdogmgeary: i have snow coming this week and will do the upgrade
19:48.49stderrI'm waitin
19:49.10herloahh, gmail is on the fritz
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19:53.50DexterTheDragonthere's that wonderful cloud technology at work
19:54.27herloheh
19:54.50herloand you are going to tell me that it's more stable off the cloud :)
19:57.02orsonjnow, if gmail was the only email provider on the internet, I'd be worried, but it isn't and I'm not.
19:58.15orsonjI think I liked peer-to-peer client-server systems the best
19:58.39DexterTheDragonwell the imap's still working so I'm not too concerned
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20:22.34stderrhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drapetomania
20:25.09herlostderr: after you left, veruus and I hung out for a while longer.  
20:25.18herlohe got me pretty drunk, but we had a good time
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20:25.46stderrherlo: nice.  I had to go feed my pets or I would've stayed longer.
20:25.58herloya, I remember that now
20:26.13herloguess you could've come back.  We were there until 11ish
20:26.26stderrdamn
20:26.37stderrhad to watch new eps of Entourage and True Blood too
20:26.42stderr\m/
20:26.46herlo*had* :)
20:27.26stderrindeed.  if I don't get my True Blood within 24 hours of it coming out, I break out in pepperoni-sized boils.
20:28.13herlolol
20:28.15herlosure you do
20:29.12stderr;P
20:29.24stderrI'm always down to drink so we can always do it again
20:29.32stderror you could check out the new place sometime
20:30.13herloyeah, that'd be cool too
20:30.15herloeither way
20:31.07fungusgeez, it's amazing how cranky people get when they don't get their gmail fix.
20:31.25herloare you watching twitter or something?
20:31.39fungusNo, all the people here.
20:31.53herloorly?  I think I'm the only one who said anything
20:32.02fungusour entire IS dept and about 20% of the rest of our employees are on Google Apps
20:32.07herloahh, there!
20:32.09herloat SOS
20:32.16fungusyup
20:32.21herlotell utahcon to quit his bitching and use his phone
20:33.06utahconI don't talk to anyone
20:33.21utahcon99% of all my email use is incoming or me bitching about fungus to HR
20:33.22utahcon:D
20:33.35funguslol
20:34.10utahcontwitter search is a fail for me :(
20:35.00fungusMozila Weave?
20:35.14stderrthink he meant Wave
20:35.41fungusahh
20:36.00herlogoogle wave?
20:36.29herlocome on to the next wave, google wave! gah!
20:37.04utahconnope
20:37.05utahconweave
20:37.21utahconxmarks from mozilla... basically
20:37.37utahconallows for custom server use
20:37.39fungusyeah Weave is pretty cool, a bit buggy last I tried it out though.
20:37.42utahconand you can write your own addons
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20:37.47utahconso it will sync anything you want
20:37.57utahconin theory... still in Labs
20:40.43fungusMaybe I should try it again.  It's probably a lot better
20:40.58utahconfungus
20:41.01utahconit is still pretty basic
20:41.12utahconbut the potential is awesome
20:42.10fungusit does bookmarks and passwords.  that is what I need.
20:42.38fungusThough Xmarks does it now, but having my control the storage and transfer methods is very nice.
20:47.28mindjujuugh, what a day... get to sit for 5 minutes then off again
20:47.53mindjujubut here is video of WoW addiction at its finest
20:47.54mindjujuhttp://revision3.com/diggreel/shatner/#seek=36:211
20:49.35mindjujusorry, didn't get to see the whole thing before posting, but there is some language at the end
20:51.59funguslol
20:52.59funguslikely to be fake
20:53.27fungusespecially when he tried to shove a remote up his ass
20:58.02stderrhmmm, can anyone recommend any Democratic politicians in the Salt Lake area that are gearing up to run next year?  The gf needs an internship
21:01.52PoeticIntensityanyone here use codeigniter enough to help me with a basic question?
21:02.37stderrPoeticIntensity: I haven't used it in ages, but I might be able to help
21:03.34PoeticIntensityI'm just trying to wrap my head around the basic concept...  I'm trying to create a global header, and it seems that (according to the vague usage guidelines) I have to include some sort of a header function in each controller....
21:04.15PoeticIntensityisn't there a way to call a class or function each time the site is hit, regardless of where it's hit in the site?
21:04.18PoeticIntensity(hope that made sense)
21:04.21PoeticIntensity(I'm kinda tired today)
21:05.05PoeticIntensitylike "I don't care where in the site the user is.  I still want this header loaded."
21:05.18PoeticIntensityWithout having to include some function in each controller...
21:05.56PoeticIntensitythere's the "autoload.php" thing, but is that where it would go?
21:06.47fungusLast time I played with it, I just wrote my own helper to load a template file, and insert the view inside.
21:07.10PoeticIntensityright...  I thought of that, but where did you put the code to load the helper?
21:07.13PoeticIntensitydirectly in the index.php file?
21:07.37PoeticIntensityit seems there isn't a "global" controller that is loaded each time the domain is hit...
21:07.38fungusCan't remember, and that code has since vanished
21:07.51fungusoh that.
21:08.12fungusYou need to call a view in every single controller function
21:08.22PoeticIntensityheh... *sigh*
21:08.38fungusI just made that call my own helper function that did my own simple template stuff
21:08.45stderrwell, what I would do is create a Rails-esque layout view
21:08.51PoeticIntensityyes...
21:08.52stderrwhich calls all those views inside of it
21:08.54PoeticIntensityZend does that.
21:09.00PoeticIntensitythat's the way my brain works.
21:09.18PoeticIntensityseems like codeigniter takes the "let's build the whole site with a bunch of views aggregated" approach.
21:09.49PoeticIntensitybut then, doesn't provide (at least AFAIK) a way to load em' all with the same code throughout the site.
21:09.56PoeticIntensitygotta copy and paste into each controller.
21:10.00stderr>_<
21:10.03stderrdude, listen to me.
21:10.06PoeticIntensityugh... sorry.
21:10.09stderrone sec, I'll pastebin.
21:10.45PoeticIntensitygotta rant...
21:11.00PoeticIntensityI only vaguely understand the necessity for these frameworks...
21:11.36PoeticIntensityif the point is to "be fast" (which is only one of the benefits), it stands to reason that a reasonably seasoned programmer would already have his tools that make him fast...
21:12.19PoeticIntensityseems like every employer looking for a senior engineer wants a cookie-cutter OOP MVC approach engrained into his soul - through either Zend, Cake, or Codeigniter.
21:12.50PoeticIntensityyes, there are pretty big benefits..... but man, there are drawbacks as well.
21:12.54PoeticIntensity</rant>
21:13.13stderrtry this: http://pastebin.com/m44949c0b
21:13.17PoeticIntensityk
21:13.22PoeticIntensity*click*
21:13.48PoeticIntensitybingo
21:13.51PoeticIntensitythanks, stderr.
21:13.55stderrnp
21:14.04PoeticIntensitystill bothers me I have to load that in each and every controller hit.
21:14.16stderrI'd extract it out into a helper function
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21:14.48PoeticIntensityand put it in ....... the index.php file?
21:15.06PoeticIntensityI'm grasping at straws trying to find .......... maybe in the autoload.php ?
21:15.15PoeticIntensitysomething that is globally loaded.
21:15.16stderryea, autoload.php
21:15.18PoeticIntensityk
21:15.25PoeticIntensityI'll give that a whirl... thanks for your time, stderr.
21:15.41stderryou could even extract the name of the calling function (controller function) so you wouldn't have to pass arguments
21:15.58stderrso you'd just call it like, say, render();
21:16.11PoeticIntensityheh... even better.
21:16.15stderrand it'd determine from the call stack and scope what the function name is and dynamically generate the view name
21:16.27stderrgots to get back to work though, good luck
21:16.28PoeticIntensityI hear ya...
21:16.31PoeticIntensitythank you.
21:23.58Utah_DavePoeticIntensity: You call load one view in each controller method. Then in that view you can include a header and / or footer
21:24.08Utah_DaveI think that's what stderr was pointing out to you
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21:26.52PoeticIntensityyeah... I'm workin' on it now...
21:26.58PoeticIntensityseems to make sense.
21:32.18PoeticIntensityworks like a charm.  Thanks stderr (and Utah_Dave )
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21:38.38itimberwhat's the syntax for gzip'ng a dir?
21:38.54itimberso that it's all 1 compressed file
21:39.02itimberdo I need to tar it first?
21:39.43DexterTheDragonitimber: yes
21:39.47itimberoh.... I can just add -j to the tar options, and it'll compress, eh?
21:39.55orsonjyep
21:39.56itimberor -z
21:40.00itimberk, thx
22:16.11itimberk, I'm out... later guys
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