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14:55.00optikalWe're looking to hire a swing-shift systems administrator, if you know anyone, here's the listing: http://tbe.taleo.net/NA8/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=INTERBANK&cws=1&rid=62
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15:05.57Utah_Davedang, brasto just left. He's looking for a systems administrator job
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15:26.59fungus_erg, someone tried to take my nick
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15:35.41thebigdogmorning all
15:40.49mgearyso, out of sheer desperation, i installed dd-wrt on my (apparently) POS Linksys router last night
15:41.30mgearyworked like a charm, and afterwards my xmission speedtest results were the highest i've ever recorded. Range and reliability also improved dramatically
15:42.05jsmithmgeary: w00t!
15:42.13mgearyyeah, big relief
15:42.34jsmithmgeary: I upgraded DD-WRT on my handy-dandy travel router as well last night
15:42.56mgearynice
15:52.19itimberanyone have a favorite VNC server software for windows?
15:53.20optikalHaven't used VNC in years, but I preferred TightVNC.
15:53.21justincarmonylet me think
15:53.44justincarmonyultra vnc is another
15:54.41itimberthx
15:55.42mgearyhey, jsmith
15:56.07jsmithmgeary: Yes?
15:56.41mgearyhow big a deal would it be to set up a voip deal where users could call a toll-free number, get a recording prompting them to leave a message, and then take that message recording and do some stuff to it?
15:57.56thebigdogitimber: i am a big fan of tightvnc as well...i have always had great success with it
15:58.33mindjujuwow, disney is buying marvel -- http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090831/ap_on_bi_ge/us_disney_marvel_entertainment
15:59.00mindjujui guess that means wolverine and other icons will be copyrighted indefinitely too
15:59.20itimbercool..... sourceforge shows 22.5 million downloads for TightVNC.... can't be that bad
16:00.34jsmithmgeary: Really easy
16:02.03thebigdogmindjuju: i guess more comic book movies will be coming out then
16:02.24mgearyjsmith: tell me more. how much infrastructure is needed?
16:03.16jsmithmgeary: A PC (or virtual machine), and internet connection, and an account with an Internet Telephony Service Provider (VoIP provider)
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16:08.08mgearyjsmith: is this something i can easily add to a CentOS colo machine at Fibernet?
16:08.15mgeary(the VOIP account)
16:10.15jsmithmgeary: Absolutely!
16:10.15mgearyjsmith: how much would that generally cost?
16:10.22mgearytrying to feel out a build versus buy scenario
16:10.46jsmithmgeary: Depending on the provider... probably somewhere around 5 cents a minute for toll-free, plus maybe five or ten a month
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16:27.01PoeticIntensity$180.00 2TB Seagate Drive on sale at newegg
16:27.32PoeticIntensityhrm....
16:27.33PoeticIntensityliars.
16:27.34PoeticIntensityhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148413&cm_mmc=SNC-Facebook-_-NA-_-NA-_-NA
16:28.22mindjujuwho was lying?
16:29.17PoeticIntensitythe facebook newegg group posting...
16:29.19DexterTheDragonthe sale is from 1pm - 12pm ET
16:29.24PoeticIntensityah
16:29.26tierrait's a shell shocker deal... it's only on that deal from 1PM PST to midnight
16:29.28PoeticIntensityI guess I'm lying... :)
16:29.39PoeticIntensityposted too soon
16:30.46mindjuju~lart poeticintensity for posting too soon!
16:30.46ibottakes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in poeticintensity's direction, hitting poeticintensity and sending poeticintensity flying into the closet for posting too soon!
16:31.03PoeticIntensitythank you... thank you...
16:33.23mindjujui'm sleepy
16:35.43mgeary~wake mindjuju
16:35.44ibotACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on mindjuju and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"
16:36.23mindjuju3 hrs of sleep is no way to start a monday
16:37.21mgeary~stopWoW mindjuju
16:37.36mindjujunever actually played
16:37.47mindjujuthough i did look over somebody's shoulder once while they played
16:38.17mgeary~stopEcstasy mindjuju
16:38.34mgeary;)
16:38.39mgeary~rib mindjuju
16:38.40ibotACTION sharpens her elbows and jabs them playfully into mindjuju's ribs, "i'm just sayin'!"
16:38.51mindjujuheh
16:51.02mgearyso, why DID you only get 3 hours sleep?
17:04.00DexterTheDragonSo I slapped ubuntu on a comp for my brother and gave him the Python: How to Think Like a Computer Scientist book to teach him some programming
17:05.06DexterTheDragonanybody know a good free kinda short guide that goes over the basics of linux, like the filesystem and using the shell and whatnot?
17:14.42croDexterTheDragon: what about the ubuntu docs?
17:14.52crohttps://help.ubuntu.com/9.04
17:16.41DexterTheDragonthat might work
17:51.59PoeticIntensitya good friend of mine wrote this:
17:52.02PoeticIntensityhttp://www.letslearnlinux.com/suseblog/easiest_linux_guide_ever.pdf
17:52.12PoeticIntensityit lays out Linux pretty well...
17:52.54PoeticIntensityyou can read about it here
17:52.55PoeticIntensityhttp://www.suseblog.com/my-book-the-easiest-linux-guide-youll-ever-read-an-introduction-to-linux-for-windows-users
17:54.34DexterTheDragonwas looking for that one, thanks PoeticIntensity
18:12.27PoeticIntensitysure thing
18:36.43stderrI must be getting old, my back is killing me
19:41.40macnewbold~yow
20:05.20fungus~translate es en tirar basura orinar o defecar
20:09.00mgeary~translate de en mein Hut, der hat drei Ecken
20:09.11mgearybah
20:09.31funguswtf
20:10.20mgearyshould be, "My hat, it has three corners"
20:10.20mgearyit's a song
20:10.29fungus~translate en de My hat, it has three corners
20:10.40mgeary~translate de en mein Hut, der hat drei Ecken. Drei Ecken hat mein Hut. Und wenn er nicht drei Ecken hätt, dann wär' er nicht mein Hut!
20:10.51mgearyhahaha
20:12.07mgearythat's lame that ibot's translator doesn't know the gender of "Hut"
20:12.23mgearyi mean, idioms i'll grant it, but that's just a straight lookup
20:12.34DexterTheDragonmust not be using google
20:12.48mgeary~literal translate
20:12.49ibot"translate" is "<REPLY> babelfish. only support French, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, and English infobot's babelfish module only supports to and from english translation"
20:13.19fungusnope, ibot uses babelfish.yahoo.com
20:13.46mgearyah
20:13.51mgearygoogle does much, much better:
20:13.56mgearyMy hat has three corners. Three corners has my hat. And if he would not have had three corners, then 'he is not my hat!
20:14.11mgearyacceptably close
20:15.17DexterTheDragonquick switch ibot to google
20:15.54fungushttp://sourceforge.net/projects/infobot/develop
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20:52.33stderrtwo... more... weeks...
21:01.44mgeary...until...what...?
21:05.05mgearyso, i'm just curious. What do folks more on the right-edge of the spectrum think about information like this: http://www.newsweek.com/id/214254/output/print
21:05.31mgearydo you/they think it's all part of the liberal media spin?
21:05.51mgearyor that the folks spreading this info are fringe outliers?
21:06.16mgearyor...? I'm just wondering if my biases are tainting my perceptions
21:06.22DexterTheDragonwhat sides the right-edge?
21:06.31stderrmgeary: til football season
21:06.41mgearybah. football
21:06.46mgearyhumbuh
21:06.53mgearys/uh/ug/
21:06.55DexterTheDragonwoooo football
21:10.14stderrI <3 football.  Greatest game ever.
21:14.49_psychic_you mean handegg?
21:15.17mgeary~soccerSnob _psychic_
21:15.18mgeary;)
21:15.21_psychic_:)
21:15.37_psychic_we're a minority, so we need to be extra loud.
21:16.27mgearybut then, i categorically don't watch tv
21:18.27mgearyi just don't see how people with kids have time for tv
21:18.50_psychic_yeah no TV for me either
21:18.53_psychic_it's not so much a time thing
21:18.58_psychic_it's that I hate broadcast media
21:19.09_psychic_or buying something that people advertise to me over
21:22.31stderroh yea, soccer fans are a minority ^_^
21:22.38_psychic_(in the U.S.)
21:24.09stderronly Europeans would get insanely rabid about a sport that's less exciting to watch than watching paint dry
21:27.28fungusmgeary: I don't think anyone here is on the right-edge.  now, #utah on the other hand...
21:27.41mgearyheh
21:28.18mgearynot looking for extremists. I just have a very high opinion of FactCheck.org, and wonder if a lot of others just consider them part of the conspiracy
21:35.43mgearybecause my perception is that a lot more misinformation is coming from the right-wing lately than the left
21:37.02unumsnopes backs that claim
21:37.57mgearybut surely they're just part of the conspiracy
21:37.58mgeary;)
21:38.58unumtrue
21:39.16mgearythe vast, well-coordinated left-wing media conspiracy.
21:39.40stderrreality does have a well-known liberal bias
21:39.41mgearyyou know, you'd think with their ability to control the media so well, they'd be complete geniuses at managing something simple like healthcare
21:40.28stderrI've been watching a lot of FNC lately, it's better than Comedy Central
21:41.05unumFNC?
21:41.11_psychic_I think it's past the point
21:41.19unumI've recently been introduced to bill maher
21:41.22_psychic_some things are funny because they're stupid, I think FNC is past that.
21:41.26_psychic_Kinda like Transformers 2.
21:42.03stderrunum: fox news channel.
21:42.12stderr_psychic_: sometimes it becomes painful, too true
21:43.31stderrbut Glenn Beck obliviously promoting Thomas Paine and butchering Paine's philosophy is like watching a train wreck in slow motion, I just can't stop looking
21:43.44unumstderr: ah ya, I think that's half the material on the daily show and corbert report now
21:44.04unumjust show clips from fnc
21:47.41stderrheh, that's been their material for the past 3 or 4 years, really.
21:49.19stderrI just wish the Tea Party Express was coming through Salt Lake
21:52.34mgearywhy would they bother? ;)
21:53.21stderrto get more than 20 people in attendance?
21:58.06_psychic_nah just announce it in church
21:59.04mgearyhey fungus
21:59.19fungushey mgeary
21:59.42mgearyon my dns server, i've got 3-4 common dns configs. If i want to change a domain from config A to config B, do i need to bump the version on that config file, or is it enough to just change the "file" directive in named.conf?
21:59.47mgeary(and restart the dns service)
22:00.16funguschange the serial number or the slaves will ignore the changes
22:00.24mgearythat's what i thought. okay, thanks
22:00.47itimberI'm out... later guys
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22:30.28beandogmon'in
22:30.38mgeary~beat beandog
22:30.39ibotACTION beats beandog with a very wet, sticky noodle
22:30.52beandog~thank mgeary
22:30.52ibotbeandog: pas de quoi
22:31.41beandogwhat does that mean
22:31.49beandogpass the croissants?
22:36.55mgeary<random>you know, it *really* irritates me how many people think that Mary Magdelene was a prostitute</random>
22:37.27beandogThat was random.
22:37.39mgearywas just listening to a song that implied it
22:37.57beandogOnly prostitutes listen to music.
22:38.36beandogmgeary, what music? s ome christian rock or something
22:38.47mgearyno
22:39.11mgearyhttp://www.mp3lyrics.org/c/chris-de-burgh/just-another-poor-boy/
22:39.28mgearyjust a random song
22:39.37beandogwow, annoying ad
22:39.44mgearysorry. first google hit
22:39.50beandogoh okay
22:39.53mgearyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Magdelene#Misidentification_as_a_prostitute
22:40.04beandogmgeary, I never hear that much
22:40.17mgearynow that i've mentioned it to you,  you will. just watch
22:40.23beandogseems like it'd be a stretch
22:40.32beandogmgeary, well, I mean, Ive heard it before, but just not much.
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23:04.22beandog~tired
23:04.23ibottired is, like, a state of consciousness between soda and coffee.
23:04.27beandogheh
23:04.48redroyHey Everyone! Just wanted to say hi.
23:05.29beandogheyo
23:07.25mgeary~greet redroy
23:07.26ibotACTION dumps a bucket of cold oatmeal on redroy
23:09.30redroyLooks like I missed August's get together !@#@
23:09.43redroyI'm making Sept. if it kills me
23:33.21mgearyi need to get around to emailing the jobs list
23:33.40stderranyone want to grab beers downtown?  me and a couple other geeks are~
23:35.19herlostderr: where?
23:35.38stderrherlo: Juniors
23:35.48herlooh, I've never been there.  When are you heading there?
23:35.51stderr30 E Broadway, directly south of Gallivan
23:35.57stderrI'm probably gonna head there soonish
23:35.59herlohrm...
23:36.06stderrveruus will be there at 6ish he said
23:36.16herloI'm on call is the only thing.  I'll chat with him about it
23:36.26stderraight
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23:44.17herlostderr: I'm there

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