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14:53.23DexterTheDragon~thursday
14:53.23ibot"This must be Thursday.  I could never get the hang of Thursdays." (Arthur Dent)
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15:37.20mgearyhi folks
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15:40.59beandogmonin'
15:41.09beandogis it time for lunch yet
15:41.28mgearyhey, anyone here put openWrt on their home router?
15:41.37beandogmgeary, oh yah, Im running it on two at home
15:41.45mgearybeandog: and...?
15:42.29mgearyi've got a relatively new Linksys that is giving me grief (as you'll soon see). I get a strong signal for about 15 minutes, and then it dies until i reboot the device
15:42.36beandogand it replaces crappy linksys firmware that goes down randomly with something that is totally rock solid and I can completely forget about for years
15:42.40mgearyhahaahah
15:42.45mgearyZACTLY
15:42.55mgearyokay, so can i do this in 15 minutes or less?
15:42.58beandogI love it
15:43.02beandogmgeary, not properly, no
15:43.06mgearyhow long?
15:43.20mgearykeep in mind that i have to also set up some port mapping
15:43.22beandogmgeary, well, its not that it takes long ... its that its a delicate process, and you don't wanna skimp
15:44.07beandogits pretty simple to brick your router (ask me how!)
15:44.17beandogso, good idea to read up and understand what you're doing
15:44.35beandogfor the record, I recommend X-WRT.  It's OpenWRT with a really nice web interface that makes everything oh-so-simpler.
15:44.46beandoghttp://x-wrt.org/
15:45.03mgearyokay
15:45.14mgearywhat's the high-level flow? How do i get the firmware from my Mac onto the device?
15:45.28beandogmgeary, depends on your model
15:45.38beandogSome of them you can do firmware upgrade through the linksys webpage
15:45.44beandogsome of them you can TFTP into it
15:46.00beandogthe openwrt wiki will have details on your specific model, assuming it supports it.
15:46.32mgeary"Kamikaze" or "White Russian" ?
15:46.46beandogwhichever is newer
15:46.49beandogI can't remember which one is
15:46.53beandogI think Kamikaze is
15:47.12jsmithKamikaze is newer, but I haven't had good luck w/ it
15:47.15jsmith(at least on my travel router)
15:48.11beandogI like both of em
15:48.18beandogIm running a different one on each router
15:48.18crodon't like DD-WRT?
15:48.22beandogblah
15:48.30beandognot really
15:51.34mgearyhttp://wiki.openwrt.org/oldwiki/openwrtdocs/hardware/linksys/wrt54g
15:51.37mgearyso that's my device
15:52.07mgearywait
15:52.13mgearyso, help me understand
15:52.59mgearythe "model number" on my device is WRT54G2, which *isn't* listed. However, WRT54G2 *is* listed, so i thought maybe the 2 is just the version #. However, i see on the router that it's actually V1
15:53.22mgearyhttp://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRT54G2
15:53.27mgearythat's my actual device
15:58.18mgearyany thoughts, beandog ?
15:58.35croThe G2s need special help
15:58.39mgearybah
15:58.44mgearyhow so?
15:58.58croThey are different from the WRT54G and GS devices
15:59.01crosmaller flash
15:59.22mgearyso i should have bought a better router
15:59.30crowell, um...yeah :
15:59.31cro:-)
15:59.42crobut I got a couple of those refurbed for like $29
15:59.50mgearyi paid like $50
15:59.54croand put dd-wrt on them, they work pretty well for what they are
16:00.32mgearyso the deal is that is doesn't really have enough memory for openwrt to perform (well) ?
16:01.13crowell, I'm not an openwrt user, but for dd-wrt there is a special stripped firmware build (called the "micro" build") that will fit in the flash on those devices
16:02.01beandogyah
16:02.06beandogdon't install it if its not listed as supported
16:02.06mgearybah
16:02.10beandogor, insta-brick
16:02.11mgearythat sounds like work and risk
16:02.13mgearyyeah
16:02.19beandogIf you do buy a new router
16:02.26beandogLinksys makes some made especially to flash
16:02.28beandogthats what I bought
16:02.32croreally?  What model#?
16:02.34mgearywhere?
16:02.35beandogWRT54GL, I think
16:02.38beandogIt even has a USB port on it
16:02.39beandog:D
16:02.59beandogThe Linux-based Wireless-G Linux Broadband Router was created specially for hobbyists and wireless aficionados.
16:03.02beandogstraight from the product page
16:03.03beandog:D
16:03.06beandoghttp://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRT54GL
16:04.14crohm
16:04.14croonly $80
16:04.30crohey!
16:04.35cro$47.69 at Amazon today
16:04.39beandogwow that is CHEAP
16:04.42beandogI paid $100 for mine
16:04.42mgearyhey hey
16:04.46mgearynow that i might do
16:05.19mgearyconfirmed
16:05.31mgearyi'm a-gonna buy that right now
16:06.07mgearyboom. with free 5-9 day shipping
16:06.10beandogyay
16:06.17beandogamazon prime++
16:09.56mgearyhe's short, so i bought him some size 8 jeans at CostCo yesterday
16:10.10mgearythey swamp him
16:10.17mgearyso i'm off to exchange them for size 7s
16:14.01beandoghttp://www.engadget.com/2009/08/27/playstation-3-slim-review/
16:14.45beandogIm soooooooooooo tempted to buy one
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17:49.31beandogman, it feels like a Friday
17:50.57PoeticIntensitydon't say that, beandog
17:50.59PoeticIntensityI've gotta work
17:51.11beandogtoo late
17:51.15beandogIm watching stupid movie trailers
17:52.12beandoghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TANs96lF3GU
17:52.26PoeticIntensitynoooooo
17:52.40beandogPoeticIntensity, that will definately put you back
17:52.58beandogon track
17:54.35mgearybeandog: i agree
18:02.02beandogwow
18:02.04beandogthis is awesome
18:02.08beandogmindjuju, DexterTheDragon gotta see:
18:02.11beandoghttp://saturdaymorningcentral.com/toys/custom-arcade-cabinets-for-your-gi-joes/
18:04.15mindjujuk, that's awesome
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19:15.42DexterTheDragonrocket test on nasatv
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21:37.41beandog~quiet
21:37.42ibotACTION ok, ok, I will be quiet. When you start making sense, that is.
21:48.29beandogman
21:48.38beandogI thought my eye was acting up, it was just an LED from the computer.
21:48.57beandogfail la la.
21:58.34beandogmindjuju, wouldnt that make it harder to see?
21:59.06mindjujui am at one with the computer, the keyboard and hands are combined!
21:59.15mindjujuthe monitor in my head shows what I type!
22:00.00croIt is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
22:00.09mindjujuawesome!
22:00.13mindjujui love that movie
22:00.27beandogwhat movie?
22:00.42mindjujui know that you're prolly going to rip a corner off my geek card, but i actually haven't read that book cro
22:00.45mindjujuor series, rather
22:00.50mindjujubeandog - Dune
22:00.53stderrbeandog: *book* Dune
22:01.08beandogman, I havent seen that in years
22:01.10mindjujui should read it though
22:01.21cromindjuju: Oh man, your cred just got nuked. :-)
22:01.36mindjujui know, like i say, a whole corner ripped off my geek card
22:01.57croI first read it in junior high school
22:02.04crojust devoured it, couldn't put it down
22:02.25crothen when I realized there were SEQUELS, I was so excited
22:02.26mindjujucourse, i didn't read hobbit or LOTR until i was like 22
22:02.44croReading Hobbit out loud to my 8 year old right now
22:02.57mindjujubut i did read raymond e fiest and piers anthony in high school
22:03.03mindjujuand Anne Rice
22:03.12mindjujuand stephen king,
22:03.36DexterTheDragonraymond fiest ftw!
22:03.43fungusAnne Rice is DIRTY!
22:03.50mindjujudirty?
22:03.50fungusI love it.  :)
22:04.02mindjujuoh, yeah, her vampire stuff is definently a lot more sexual
22:04.23fungushehe
22:04.24mindjujucourse, i haven't really read other vampire stuff,
22:04.38mindjujuand of course, I was listening to the Cure while reading Vamp Chronicles
22:04.40fungusI actually just started listening to Dune a few days ago.  loving it so far
22:05.50funguswow, mindjuju was an OG (original goth)
22:06.05mindjujunah, i was a poser
22:06.11mindjujui wasn't full goth
22:06.16fungushehe
22:06.25mindjujuwas a thespian, listened to the cure
22:06.34mindjujubut didn't wear all black nor black fingernails
22:07.03mindjujubut i did like sampling all kinds of groups
22:07.17mindjujuheadbangers, goth, debaters
22:07.28mindjujui never really skated, i suck at balancing
22:07.28fungusthat's cool.  I was boring old-style math nerd
22:07.42mindjujubut i had several several friends that were skaters
22:08.13mindjujuyeah?
22:08.16beandogno.
22:08.25fungus:(
22:09.39beandogoh gosh, I was anything but a preppie
22:09.52mindjujucome on, you had penny loafers
22:09.55beandogoO
22:09.56mindjujuadmit it
22:09.58beandogoh man
22:10.03beandogI get ill when I have to wear a polo
22:10.14beandogI was one of the outcasts
22:10.19mindjujumac i can REALLY see as a prep
22:10.24mindjujumacnewbold that is
22:11.35beandogyah
22:11.39beandogdangit
22:11.44beandognow I want to find that one image
22:11.45macnewbold~nosepick mindjuju
22:11.46ibotACTION plucks mindjuju out of the nose of humanity and flicks him out the window!
22:12.04mindjujumacnewbold, were you a prep in high school?
22:12.14macnewboldeh
22:12.19beandogwe found macnewbold
22:12.21beandoghttp://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3699/coolmodivatepg0.jpg
22:12.24mindjujuheh
22:12.31macnewboldnot in the "Come on Buffy, let's go play tennis at the Country Club" sense...
22:12.44macnewboldi was one of the geeks
22:13.03mgearycro: i'm reading hobbit to my 9 + 6 y-os right now, too
22:13.11mgearywe just hit the giant spiders
22:13.13mindjujumacnewbold, but did you have the pastel polo
22:13.16macnewboldno
22:13.17mindjujuand the loafers
22:13.20macnewboldt-shirts all the way
22:13.27mindjujubeandog - that is awesome!
22:13.28beandogmacnewbold, ^5
22:13.34macnewboldi only wear polos or button down shirts at work when I have a meeting
22:13.35beandognothing but tshirts
22:13.41macnewboldbeandog: you wish
22:14.13mindjujumgeary, i'm reading the Just So stories to Corban (6)
22:14.22mgearythose are awesome
22:14.26cromgeary: cool!  My 13 year old demands to be the voice of Gollum, so he sits over my shoulder and interjects when Gollum's dialogue comes up
22:14.27mindjujuyup, he's loving them
22:14.34beandogI wonder if we can find highschool photos of everyone
22:14.37beandogthat'd be awesome
22:14.42mgearyour favorite is the Rhino's skin
22:14.43funguseek
22:14.50fungusrun away from beandog
22:14.57mindjujuwe just finished reading that one the other day
22:15.09mgearybut they're all great
22:15.18mindjujuhave you heard Jack Nicholson reading the Elephant's Child
22:15.21mindjujuit's superb
22:15.44crobeandog: I look pretty much the same
22:15.52cronot quite as skinny. :-)
22:16.02mindjujui had hair when i was in high school
22:16.06beandoghere, Ill offer up mine
22:16.06beandogsec
22:16.34beandoghttp://tinyurl.com/ldakrg
22:18.36mindjujuthat's awesome!
22:21.18beandogheh
22:25.49beandogmindjuju, next!
22:26.00mindjujui don't hve any posted anywhere
22:26.06mindjujubut i'll scan you my senior photo
22:26.13mindjujui'll have it for tomorrow
23:00.34beandogarray_key_exists sure is finicky
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