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| 00:42.27 | herlo | carmony: you'll do fine! |
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| 15:04.58 | r3dbranch | morning |
| 15:11.27 | r3dbranch | anyone know if there is albuquerque based php user group or one for New Mexico? |
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| 15:34.55 | DexterTheDragon | ~rlart |
| 15:34.55 | ibot | pulls out his louisville slugger and uses herlo's head to break the homerun record |
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| 16:06.23 | herlo | DexterTheDragon: that was MEAN! |
| 16:06.34 | DexterTheDragon | blame the bot |
| 16:07.01 | herlo | uh huh |
| 16:07.06 | herlo | likely story |
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| 16:19.33 | Lone_Wanderer | On Sunday, I depart. |
| 16:24.36 | utahcon | depart? |
| 16:24.47 | Lone_Wanderer | Yes. It means "leave". |
| 16:25.24 | utahcon | you are departing from, to? |
| 16:26.34 | Lone_Wanderer | ;) |
| 16:26.39 | Lone_Wanderer | to Ft. Huachuca, AZ |
| 16:40.43 | justincarmony_ | ~lart herlo |
| 16:40.43 | ibot | stamps herlo on the forehead with the official Troll marker |
| 16:40.48 | herlo | ~lart justincarmony_ |
| 16:40.48 | ibot | whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that justincarmony_ is stuck to the floor |
| 16:40.53 | justincarmony_ | LOL :P |
| 16:41.11 | justincarmony_ | ~troll herlo |
| 16:41.12 | ibot | ACTION hereby declares herlo a troll |
| 16:41.19 | justincarmony_ | see, ibot says you are :P |
| 16:41.22 | herlo | heh |
| 16:41.26 | herlo | cause you told him to do it |
| 16:41.31 | herlo | he listens to most anything |
| 16:41.37 | herlo | s/he/she/ |
| 16:41.51 | herlo | ~troll justincarmony_ |
| 16:41.52 | ibot | ACTION hereby declares justincarmony_ a troll |
| 16:41.56 | herlo | see ^^ |
| 16:42.26 | justincarmony_ | lol |
| 16:44.06 | mgeary | why why why |
| 16:44.15 | mgeary | why do people take screenshots and always paste them into Word? |
| 16:44.26 | mgeary | why don't they TRY just pasting the screenshot into an email message? |
| 16:44.39 | justincarmony_ | LOL, I *hate* that |
| 16:46.00 | unum_ | because people are dumb. |
| 16:46.11 | unum | which is why the free market doesn't work |
| 16:46.21 | unum | people aren't smart enough to know what's best for them |
| 16:46.29 | stderr | commie |
| 16:46.32 | unum | that's why they do things like buy ms and dell |
| 16:46.36 | unum | stderr: yes yes I am |
| 16:46.50 | unum | saint sir thomas moore corrupted me |
| 16:48.23 | stderr | http://www.amazon.com/review/R2TQOV2Z0F32X2/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm pwned |
| 16:51.37 | justincarmony_ | youch, that is one scathing review. |
| 16:53.01 | stderr | kills him. Was wondering when someone would call Beck on his Paine fascination. If you actually read all of Paine's works it's pretty obvious how progressive he was (like most of the founding fathers the neoconservatives continue to espouse) |
| 16:54.38 | unum | has Beck not read Age of Reason? |
| 16:54.45 | unum | of course I've yet to read Common Sense |
| 16:54.47 | stderr | next tea party I may go and hand out copies of Agrarian Justice and The Age of Reason |
| 16:55.01 | stderr | I've read all of Paine's books/pamphlets, he's my favorite |
| 16:55.09 | unum | I'll kick in for a few copies of Age of Reason |
| 16:55.17 | unum | I don't actually care for him |
| 16:55.29 | unum | I just like destroying other people's views of the founding fathers |
| 16:55.34 | stderr | psh, greatest founding father. He had balls and intellect. |
| 16:55.43 | unum | I like Hamilton and Adams |
| 16:59.15 | unum | hmmmm |
| 16:59.39 | unum | maybe I'm remembering incorrectly but didn't Paine attack the Golden Rule |
| 16:59.48 | unum | that doesn't sound like much of a progressive to me |
| 17:02.01 | unum | the gilded age is such a good book |
| 17:02.09 | unum | everyone should read it |
| 17:06.15 | jtsnow | Drupal meetup tonight, if anyone is interested! http://groups.drupal.org/node/24727 |
| 17:09.49 | herlo | jtsnow: ooh, and I can't make it :( |
| 17:10.39 | jtsnow | bummer, maybe next time |
| 17:11.10 | justincarmony_ | I think govtrack.us is my new favorite site |
| 17:14.43 | cro | herlo: like Drupal? |
| 17:15.30 | herlo | cro: I think its nice. |
| 17:16.09 | cro | how do you compare it to Django, other than the fact that Django is more of a framework than a CMS |
| 17:17.58 | herlo | yeah, it really doesn't compare |
| 17:18.06 | herlo | cms's accomplish a particular purpose. |
| 17:18.18 | herlo | django is more free flow but you have to know how to code in python |
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| 17:18.28 | jtsnow | If you can afford to make and need a very custom solution, use Django or other framework. If Drupal does what you need, with its thousands of add on modules, then you can have a site up and running very quickly |
| 17:18.39 | herlo | they both have a whole framework for you to learn, that's about the only similarity |
| 17:18.58 | herlo | you could make a cms with django, that might be another similarity |
| 17:37.13 | stderr | dang thigh spasms |
| 17:45.21 | utahcon | got another shell xargs question. |
| 17:45.27 | utahcon | is there a way |
| 17:45.40 | utahcon | truncate a filename through xargs? |
| 17:45.44 | utahcon | here is what I want to do |
| 17:45.58 | utahcon | convert all .wav in a dir to .mp3 using lame |
| 17:46.16 | utahcon | I have everything but how to dynamically name the files from .wav to .mp3 |
| 17:46.35 | utahcon | unless I want the names to be .wav.mp3 (and I don't) |
| 17:47.29 | mgeary | i mean, there are a lot of jerks who also happen to be LDS, but most of them aren't out there in the public eye |
| 17:48.09 | stderr | utahcon: how are you passing it to xargs? find? |
| 17:48.24 | utahcon | I can use find, but I am using ls |
| 17:49.29 | utahcon | what I have so far is: ls *wav | xargs -n1 -l -0 -i lame {} |
| 17:50.04 | utahcon | and like I said I can do something like: ls *wav | xargs -n1 -l -0 -i lame {} {}.mp3 |
| 17:50.22 | utahcon | and then loop back through the dir and mv all the wav.mp3 to .mp3 |
| 17:50.28 | utahcon | but it seems there should be a way |
| 17:51.07 | stderr | sorry busy or I'd help. The trick is to use basename with find though |
| 17:51.55 | justincarmony_ | Glenn Beck is to sensational for me |
| 17:52.13 | justincarmony_ | Any news report that has that "sensational" feel and spin frustrates me |
| 17:52.14 | DexterTheDragon | utahcon: I'd just pass it through a for loop |
| 17:54.44 | stderr | well sensational is one thing but being wrong AND sensational is quite another. |
| 17:55.15 | stderr | while desecrating everything founding father stood for by using his most celebrated pamphlet to sell a couple pages of slop you wrote |
| 17:55.19 | stderr | everything a* |
| 17:55.21 | justincarmony_ | Eh, sometimes he's right I feel :P sometimes I think he isn't, but I've only seen a handful of reports he has done |
| 17:55.42 | justincarmony_ | I haven't read any of his books |
| 17:56.47 | justincarmony_ | What I don't get is why this new bill will outlaw private individual insurance policies... which I have. |
| 17:56.53 | stderr | it's not really a book, it's just a lengthy introduction to Common Sense that completely goes against everything Paine ever stood for. Smart move, Beck. Profit off of a classic in the public domain. *golf clap* |
| 17:57.10 | Utah_Dave | I love this quote from an article about that big credit card fraud case: |
| 17:57.17 | Utah_Dave | "It "exploits any vulnerability in a firewall and inserts a code to gather information," he explained" |
| 17:57.56 | Utah_Dave | SQL injection becomes "inserts a code" |
| 17:58.21 | Utah_Dave | then "he added that this case probably "involved extremely well researched, especially configured codes, not standard attack codes downloaded from the internet" |
| 17:58.31 | Utah_Dave | Especially configured codes!! |
| 17:58.43 | justincarmony_ | so while I get to keep my policy after this bill goes into effect, if I need to change anything, like if I have a kid and need to add him to the policy, or want to switch companies, I'll be forced on a public plan. |
| 17:58.44 | stderr | you can tell he's hax0red the gibson a time or ten |
| 17:58.48 | justincarmony_ | lol |
| 17:59.18 | stderr | justincarmony_: well, or a private company inside the Exchange |
| 17:59.55 | stderr | just because a private company has been approved and is in the Exchange pool doesn't make it a public plan |
| 18:00.27 | stderr | very similar to how France accomplishes private health insurance, I believe. |
| 18:00.29 | justincarmony_ | Well, hopefully they won't make it too hard to be in the exchange to allow for options |
| 18:01.09 | justincarmony_ | but why force individual policies through their Exchange pool? |
| 18:02.50 | Utah_Dave | If we're going to make all these changes, I think it should be something simple like, "If you want to sell health insurance in the US, you have to accept everyone that applies." |
| 18:03.10 | Utah_Dave | Then let people shop around for the best deal |
| 18:04.33 | justincarmony_ | Thats why I don't get why they won't allow for inter-state competition |
| 18:04.40 | stderr | justincarmony_: it's pretty complex, but it essentially forces insurance companies to not raise premiums spectacularly on the more vulnerable, as well as pool risk |
| 18:04.43 | stderr | http://www.cbpp.org/cms/index.cfm?fa=view&id=2754 |
| 18:04.50 | stderr | this is a decent paper (non-partisan) |
| 18:05.36 | Utah_Dave | Oh, and I'd also say that they have to charge everyone the same price for a certain level of coverage regardless of their health history |
| 18:06.02 | stderr | Utah_Dave: yea, that's one of the Exchange's goals |
| 18:06.38 | justincarmony_ | Hopefully the exchange works well |
| 18:07.11 | Utah_Dave | There was one comment I heard a few days ago that showed some ignorance of how gov healthcare works. |
| 18:07.41 | Utah_Dave | The comment said something to the effect that government employees sure enjoy their great benefits that the government provides them. |
| 18:08.05 | Utah_Dave | It's true, for the most part. I've had gov health insurance for quite a few years now |
| 18:08.18 | Utah_Dave | But what they don't realize is that the gov pays through the nose for it |
| 18:08.30 | Utah_Dave | It's really expensive, they just don't charge the employee much |
| 18:08.52 | justincarmony_ | and the burden is shifted on the taxes |
| 18:09.06 | Utah_Dave | So it's not a good example of the gov providing an efficient health insurance. |
| 18:09.32 | stderr | my military healthcare was alright, disregarding all the vaccinations they threw at me |
| 18:10.22 | stderr | I probably only know 60% of what they vaccinated me with, and the ones I do know are fairly dangerous, so i can only imagine what the ones they didn't deign to tell me about are like |
| 18:10.23 | justincarmony_ | I'm just worried that the whole health care reform is going to cost a lot more than we anticipate |
| 18:10.27 | Utah_Dave | right, the military coverage is OK, but it costs the gov a lot of money |
| 18:11.21 | Utah_Dave | The military guys I work with hate having to go up to Hill for military doctors. They all try to get sent to private doctors, which they can do if they live over 50 miles from Hill AFB, or something like that |
| 18:14.33 | stderr | hey, I had a military doctor get two nurses to hold me down while he removed a steel pin from my hand with a leatherman, you don't have to tell me |
| 18:15.37 | stderr | wish I had a video of that, it was pretty awesome |
| 18:15.47 | cro | stderr: how did it get there? |
| 18:17.31 | stderr | cro: I had several metacarpal breaks and they performed surgery on it and inserted two steel pins into my hand. got infected because I was still doing urban combat training in prep for Iraq |
| 18:17.41 | cro | wow |
| 18:18.16 | stderr | so they put another cast on my hand and I ended up ripping it off two days before Iraq because my commander was going to try to keep me back until it was healed. *shrug* it's fine now, except for pain when it's cold |
| 18:18.41 | cro | still have all your strength and articulation? |
| 18:19.08 | stderr | but yea they broke the OTHER pin in my hand so I have half a steel pin in my hand still (my mom's a doctor and she said during a touchy surgery like hand surgery it happens sometimes) |
| 18:19.15 | stderr | oh yea, my hand is fine |
| 18:19.32 | stderr | for about a year my grip was a little weak |
| 18:20.19 | stderr | left hand too (my primary hand) |
| 18:21.37 | stderr | but yea, all I have is a unnoticeable scar over my ring finger's first knuckle from where they inserted the pins |
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| 18:47.10 | DexterTheDragon | ~lart mindjuju |
| 18:47.10 | ibot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, mindjuju!" and lops off mindjuju's head |
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| 19:51.54 | macnewbold | ~zippy |
| 19:57.07 | fungus_ | ~lart zippy |
| 19:57.07 | ibot | --purges zippy |
| 19:58.13 | mindjuju | any VLC pros in the house? |
| 20:06.09 | thebigdog | what you need dual streams over token ring? |
| 20:06.10 | thebigdog | haha |
| 20:06.37 | mindjuju | avi --> PNG ratio 20% of frames |
| 20:07.05 | mindjuju | thebigdog, any ideas? |
| 20:11.32 | tierra | could probably do that with ffmpeg |
| 20:11.40 | tierra | not sure what options you need thoguh |
| 20:11.42 | tierra | *though |
| 20:19.27 | thebigdog | mindjuju you want to convert? i would not use vlc for conversion |
| 20:19.40 | thebigdog | but i would use mplayer or mencoder of like tierra said ffmpeg |
| 20:20.38 | eggyknap | So this PHP script I'm trying to make work screams about allowed memory being exhausted. I increase the limit via php -d memory_limit=1024M, and the allowed size it complains about on the next run hasn't changed. |
| 20:20.43 | eggyknap | Why? |
| 20:22.36 | thebigdog | that should work |
| 20:22.41 | eggyknap | THat's what I thought. |
| 20:22.47 | thebigdog | did you check and see what memory limit you have in your script |
| 20:22.54 | eggyknap | I'm trying to parse through a whole bunch of logs, so using loads of memory doesn't surprise me. |
| 20:23.05 | eggyknap | Perhaps that's it ... what's that command? set_something("memory_limit"..) ? |
| 20:23.26 | eggyknap | nm... ini_set(). That's prolly it. |
| 20:23.30 | eggyknap | thx for the tip |
| 20:23.35 | thebigdog | np |
| 20:24.11 | thebigdog | you can also do some echos and see if it is set before you do your work |
| 20:24.11 | thebigdog | mindjuju: did that help you out? |
| 20:24.14 | thebigdog | eggyknap: do you have enough time to process that too? |
| 20:24.27 | eggyknap | I figured I might have to worry about that... but that I'd fix teh memory first. |
| 20:25.06 | stderr | well parsing log files with PHP seems to be outside of it's problem domain, but for santa's sake don't load all the files into memory. process them line by line. |
| 20:25.06 | thebigdog | you are not hitting a db are you? |
| 20:25.24 | eggyknap | stderr: I didn't write the script. If I had, it wouldn't have been in PHP in the first place. :) |
| 20:25.30 | eggyknap | thebigdog: no, just parsing logs |
| 20:25.31 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 20:25.49 | stderr | eggyknap: ah good ;-) |
| 20:26.29 | stderr | (well bad since you have to maintain it but you know what I mean) |
| 20:28.04 | stderr | http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/News/CanadaWorld/2009/08/18/10499511.html |
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| 20:36.09 | thebigdog | to funny |
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| 21:20.29 | beandog | o hai |
| 21:21.12 | beandog | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/08/18/funny-pictures-cat-traps-are-working/ |
| 21:25.00 | beandog | so, anyone else excited about PS3 slim? |
| 21:25.00 | beandog | :D |
| 21:25.06 | beandog | it has bravia sync, yay! |
| 21:25.09 | beandog | I'm gonna buy one just for that. |
| 21:25.22 | beandog | ~mr spendy pants |
| 21:28.20 | stderr | http://www.themonkeycage.org/2009/08/scoring_truthfulness_in_the_he.html |
| 21:29.21 | justincarmony_ | I want one of these... http://www.fusionio.com/ioxtreme/performance.php |
| 21:30.25 | DexterTheDragon | don't we all |
| 21:35.13 | beandog | stderr, pants on fire? |
| 21:37.03 | stderr | it's from politifact |
| 22:08.23 | thebigdog | justincarmony_: i looked at working at that company just cause they have a killer project |
| 22:10.44 | stderr | inw /2 |
| 22:10.50 | stderr | wth |
| 22:23.54 | influx | ? |
| 22:58.16 | beandog | ! |
| 22:58.23 | beandog | freek its 5 p.m. already |
| 22:58.47 | beandog | time to go home and watch cartoons and play on my PS2 |
| 23:04.16 | mgeary | how would it be |
| 23:05.18 | beandog | actually I think Im gonna go home tonight and see if I can beat my head against learning PyGTK |
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| 23:15.31 | mgeary | trade what? lesse... i'll give you a Raman Noodles (just add water!) for... some peanut M&Ms |
| 23:17.01 | beandog | all outta M&Ms |
| 23:17.07 | beandog | I have a buttload of Quik, though |
| 23:17.07 | mgeary | Now & Laters? |
| 23:17.23 | beandog | That stuff is good to just eat with a spoon |
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