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| 02:06.41 | stderr | oh, how I love CYE. |
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| 04:18.40 | brasto | anyone know where freebsd 6.x stores password hashes? |
| 04:18.48 | brasto | it doesn't have /etc/shadow... |
| 04:19.14 | Lone_Wanderer | that's odd |
| 04:19.18 | Lone_Wanderer | I do not |
| 04:23.11 | brasto | it's /etc/master.passwd |
| 04:23.15 | brasto | just found it :) |
| 04:23.21 | brasto | strange, huh? |
| 04:24.43 | eggyknap | That becomes a pain, when not kept properly in mind. |
| 04:26.44 | brasto | yea, that and a few other strange things in bsd |
| 04:26.53 | brasto | i don't know if it's bsd in general or just freebsd |
| 04:27.25 | brasto | if it's a bsd standard, then it isn't so bad since they are following a standard bsders are familiar with |
| 04:28.02 | Lone_Wanderer | that's weird |
| 04:28.11 | Lone_Wanderer | why would they change it? |
| 04:28.48 | Lone_Wanderer | brasto: it's not a bsd standard |
| 04:29.02 | Lone_Wanderer | when I was a FreeBSD sysadmin it was /etc/shadow |
| 04:29.09 | brasto | odd |
| 04:29.20 | Lone_Wanderer | yeah |
| 04:29.28 | Lone_Wanderer | but that was a long time ago |
| 04:29.33 | brasto | if you search google for freebsd shadow file, several places say it's /etc/master.passwd |
| 04:29.38 | brasto | that's how I found it |
| 04:29.47 | Lone_Wanderer | must have been an official change then |
| 04:30.11 | Lone_Wanderer | still weird |
| 04:30.20 | brasto | yea |
| 04:30.52 | brasto | Verio does a few strange things to their freebsd install, but that, fortunately wasn't one of them, or I might not have found it with Google quite so easily. |
| 04:31.07 | Lone_Wanderer | That's where I was a sysadmin :p |
| 04:31.27 | brasto | that's right, I forgot |
| 04:31.34 | Lone_Wanderer | It's a great company. |
| 04:31.43 | brasto | so it was a change somewhere between 4.x and 6.x then probably |
| 04:31.47 | brasto | yea, it was fun |
| 04:32.11 | brasto | with the Linux mame video game console, it was double cool :) |
| 04:32.20 | Lone_Wanderer | what was that? |
| 04:33.53 | eggyknap | There are even fewer BSD standards than linux ones... |
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| 05:05.18 | brasto | Lone_Wanderer: you never saw the video game console in the break room? |
| 05:07.35 | Lone_Wanderer | oh yeah |
| 05:07.44 | Lone_Wanderer | with the arcade games |
| 05:07.53 | Lone_Wanderer | and other things :) I forgot about that |
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| 11:44.36 | justincarmony | gooooooooooooooood morning! |
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| 12:42.08 | webchaos | hi |
| 12:43.56 | justincarmony | hey |
| 12:45.15 | webchaos | im having an issue with building my php. can you guys help me |
| 12:45.56 | justincarmony | like compiling php on your machine? I don't have a whole lot of experience with that |
| 12:46.12 | webchaos | i cant seem to get php and mysql talking |
| 12:46.24 | justincarmony | ok, what error are you getting? |
| 12:47.51 | webchaos | my php wasnt built with mysql support so now im tryin to do that |
| 12:47.55 | webchaos | when i do i get an error |
| 12:48.18 | webchaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:49.26 | justincarmony | yikes, yeah, that leaves my personal area of expertise |
| 12:49.38 | webchaos | mine too lol |
| 12:49.41 | justincarmony | you can wait around to see if some of the other guys get online in a few hours |
| 12:50.03 | justincarmony | you probably could ask that question in #apache |
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| 14:32.14 | utahcon | morning cro and carmony |
| 14:33.39 | carmony | ~lart mindjuju |
| 14:33.39 | ibot | sends a legion of lawyers after mindjuju's head |
| 14:33.41 | carmony | morning utahcon |
| 14:34.18 | herlo | utahcon: !! |
| 14:34.23 | utahcon | herlo: |
| 14:34.37 | herlo | utahcon: uh, hai! |
| 14:34.48 | herlo | read #utos-dev ?? |
| 14:34.51 | utahcon | herlo: HELLO! |
| 14:42.10 | SunSparc | ~hai |
| 14:42.11 | ibot | Helicopter Association International. The Human Awareness Institute |
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| 15:20.23 | mgeary | hi folks |
| 15:21.15 | mgeary | hey, anyone know why i'd get a "File size limit exceeded" when sending a bunch of emails via php/apache? I'm on CentOS |
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| 15:22.27 | carmony | file and not memory? |
| 15:25.09 | mgeary | file |
| 15:25.20 | unum | ya |
| 15:25.21 | mgeary | and the error is coming via CLI, and not coming from PHP |
| 15:25.28 | unum | there is a file upload size limit |
| 15:25.28 | unum | oh |
| 15:25.35 | unum | well I think there is one in apache |
| 15:25.43 | mgeary | yeah, it "feels" like a system error, not an apache/php error |
| 15:25.51 | unum | exim may have one as well |
| 15:26.00 | unum | actually I'm way confused now |
| 15:26.07 | unum | what command are you using to send the email |
| 15:26.08 | mgeary | i just checked the error_log, and it was 3.7 gigs (!), so i think that may be related to the problem. I've just emptied it and will watch it |
| 15:26.16 | unum | ah |
| 15:26.42 | mgeary | well, it's a php script using the Swift emailing libraries |
| 15:26.54 | mgeary | on a related note, it's DOG slow in sending the emails |
| 15:26.57 | mgeary | like about 1 per second |
| 15:27.50 | unum | so it's not using apache then |
| 15:27.57 | unum | since it's cli |
| 15:28.41 | unum | is it connecting to the localhost smtp server |
| 15:29.07 | mgeary | i'm running it as apache, but yes, it's cli |
| 15:29.19 | unum | ah |
| 15:29.34 | mgeary | and yes, i believe it's connecting to the local smtp server |
| 15:29.42 | mgeary | and i believe it's (now) using postfix |
| 15:30.44 | unum | is this a redhat/centos box? |
| 15:34.08 | mgeary | centos |
| 15:34.30 | thebigdog | its cause your configuration blows chunks...hehe |
| 15:34.54 | unum | sounds like it..... |
| 15:35.06 | unum | if it was going to a remote box it would make sense that the emails would be limited |
| 15:35.22 | unum | I don't think centos typically limits email per second by default |
| 15:35.33 | unum | of course I don't think it installs postfix by default |
| 15:36.54 | unum | there is an in_flow_delay option in postfix |
| 15:36.56 | thebigdog | mgeary: check your postfix queue and your logs and see if you can find some errors or warnings |
| 15:36.59 | unum | you may want to see if that's set |
| 15:37.37 | unum | hmm looks like there's a default of 100 I wonder if I can turn that off. |
| 15:38.20 | unum | ahh 100 is the process number limit |
| 15:38.33 | thebigdog | you dont want to overload that at all |
| 15:38.47 | thebigdog | then you will probably start swapping and thrashing like crazy |
| 15:39.50 | unum | we need an appliance :) |
| 15:40.09 | unum | actually our current set up works fine |
| 15:40.13 | unum | I'm just whining |
| 15:49.20 | DexterTheDragon | http://thereifixedit.com/2009/07/29/epic-kludge-photo-for-the-frugal-lawn-care-fanatic/ |
| 15:49.27 | DexterTheDragon | that is awesome |
| 15:52.23 | carmony | omg... LOL... |
| 15:52.27 | carmony | that site is too funny |
| 15:52.58 | DexterTheDragon | wow http://thereifixedit.com/2009/07/23/epic-kludge-photo-amateur-conversion/ |
| 15:53.06 | carmony | thats scary |
| 15:53.20 | carmony | wow... sooo... wrong... http://thereifixedit.com/2009/07/17/epic-kludge-photo-electric-toothbrush/ |
| 15:54.23 | carmony | here is something that mindjuju would like : http://thereifixedit.com/2009/07/10/epic-kludge-photo-rake-em-over-the-fire/ |
| 15:55.36 | carmony | and here is darwenism at its best: http://thereifixedit.com/2009/07/05/epic-kludge-photo-of-course-beer-was-involved/ |
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| 16:01.59 | unum | you know I think dildo's cost more than electric toothbrushes |
| 16:02.04 | unum | don't ask my why I know |
| 16:02.23 | unum | though maybe he bought it for his girlfriend and she left him with it |
| 16:02.34 | unum | for reasons that made sense only to her |
| 16:10.33 | fungus | Hey, at least you know she didn't leave you for the dildo. woot! |
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| 17:07.20 | orsonj | _psychic_: If you have models: Groups hasMany People hasMany Posts, how would you do get routes like /Group/Person/Post |
| 17:08.51 | orsonj | The only way I've figured out how to make it work is to stick everything in the groups controller. |
| 17:14.02 | SunSparc | http://blog.mediarain.com/2009/07/30/traffic-jam-diaries-entry-one/ |
| 17:27.47 | _psychic_ | orsonj: routes? |
| 17:27.50 | _psychic_ | or just to get the data? |
| 17:27.57 | _psychic_ | if models are related, you can walk from one to the other. |
| 17:29.22 | _psychic_ | orsonj: that way if you're in the GroupsController, you can get to post data via $this->Group->Person->Post->find(); |
| 17:30.38 | orsonj | That's what I'm doing, it just doesn't seem right doing post stuff in the group controller. |
| 17:32.15 | orsonj | It works, I am just wondering if I'm missing something where I could be doing it in a cleaner or more appropriate way. |
| 17:33.24 | orsonj | I would do it in the posts controller except I can't get a route that works for it. |
| 17:42.26 | _psychic_ | My rule is I do it in the primary controller for the logic I want to write |
| 17:42.49 | _psychic_ | It's okay to access related models in other controllers as long as you have some sort of organization rules that keep things in the right buckets |
| 17:43.03 | _psychic_ | It'll be tough to find and fix things later if you don't have some rule of thumb |
| 17:43.14 | _psychic_ | (tougher at least) |
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| 18:02.18 | webchaos | what can cause my root php files to work fine but the ones in a sub directory not to execute. the browser asks if i want to download the php file in the sub dir |
| 18:03.20 | DexterTheDragon | bad apache setup |
| 18:03.53 | stderr | grep your conf and applicable .htaccess files for "RemoveHandler" |
| 18:04.19 | stderr | and AddHandler if nothing comes up |
| 18:05.19 | DexterTheDragon | possibly look for AddType application/x-httpd-php too |
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| 18:07.09 | influx | gremlins |
| 18:07.15 | influx | stderr: you going to Vegas for DC? |
| 18:07.37 | stderr | Nah |
| 18:38.30 | cro | UPHPU job posting position requirement: â¢Eternal white-hot burning hatred for Microsoft |
| 18:38.49 | cro | hm, I fit the other requirements, but I'm not sure if my hatred is eternal and white-hot |
| 18:41.20 | influx | I know someone who meets that requirement. |
| 18:41.49 | influx | He's a mac zealot. |
| 18:42.38 | DexterTheDragon | they have this on their site http://www.projectedinc.com/usergroup/ |
| 18:50.43 | stderr | uggggh gotta move everything tonight |
| 18:59.35 | mgeary | !@#%$@! windows for shutting down and restarting because it automatically installed some updates. Nevermind that i was in the middle of converting a video file... |
| 19:00.02 | mgeary | ~flip Windows |
| 19:00.02 | ibot | ACTION gives Windows the .|.. ..|. |
| 19:00.04 | influx | bummer |
| 19:10.07 | SunSparc | ~nuke Windows |
| 19:10.08 | ibot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at Windows ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
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| 19:10.55 | SunSparc | mgeary: I love that "feature". When I have a Windows install, that is one of the first things I disable. At least they let you disable it. |
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| 19:46.35 | orsonj | heh, I installed ksplice on my work computer. nice program. |
| 19:48.34 | utahcon | orsonj: is ksplice all it's cracked up to be? |
| 19:50.08 | influx | _ |
| 19:50.09 | influx | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.10 | influx | _ |
| 19:50.12 | influx | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:50.14 | influx | whoops |
| 19:54.41 | PoeticIntensity | ~windows-- |
| 19:54.54 | PoeticIntensity | ~karma windows |
| 19:54.54 | ibot | windows has karma of -6 |
| 19:56.05 | PoeticIntensity | definitely not low enough, IMO |
| 19:56.42 | SunSparc | Perhaps -666 would be low enough? |
| 19:56.59 | SunSparc | ~karma IE |
| 19:56.59 | ibot | ie has karma of -666 |
| 19:57.02 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 20:10.05 | orsonj | utahcon: I like the technology, but it is a third party support for Ubuntu only (currently) |
| 20:10.55 | orsonj | I think distros need to pick it up and include it as part of the core distro |
| 20:11.16 | DexterTheDragon | I think its kinda meh |
| 20:11.20 | DexterTheDragon | cool technology tho |
| 20:11.30 | orsonj | I still get "You need to reboot" messages even though it has been patched. |
| 20:11.46 | DexterTheDragon | mostly |
| 20:12.08 | DexterTheDragon | well it patches the live running kernel but your distro will still install the new kernel versions |
| 20:12.13 | utahcon | the idea of never having to reboot for software (opt sys or other) is awesome! |
| 20:12.56 | orsonj | correct the new kernel needs to be installed in the event you are forced to reboot (power outage longer than UPS life) |
| 20:13.05 | orsonj | s/correct/correct, |
| 20:13.12 | DexterTheDragon | not really |
| 20:13.27 | DexterTheDragon | if you reboot to the same kernel version ksplice will apply its patches on boot |
| 20:13.34 | DexterTheDragon | so you'd be at the same point |
| 20:14.00 | DexterTheDragon | gives you the choice of how you want to do it |
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| 20:14.30 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: Never gonna give your teen spirit up, nice. |
| 20:17.11 | SunSparc | R&B Grunge :) |
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| 20:39.55 | SunSparc | Argh, I have a column name with a dash in it that is being interpreted as something else so I cannot use the column. column: ages_1-5 |
| 20:40.17 | SunSparc | The error comes back saying: Unknown column 'ages_1' in 'field list' |
| 20:40.26 | Lone_Wanderer | use the ` character |
| 20:40.33 | SunSparc | Yeah, even tried that. :( |
| 20:40.35 | Lone_Wanderer | `ages_1-5` |
| 20:40.36 | Lone_Wanderer | oh |
| 20:40.40 | Lone_Wanderer | that sucks |
| 20:40.44 | Lone_Wanderer | rename it? |
| 20:40.52 | SunSparc | Yeah, considering a rename |
| 20:41.18 | DexterTheDragon | how did it get created if `` don't work? |
| 20:41.32 | SunSparc | Good question. |
| 20:41.49 | SunSparc | It is an older database, not my creation. |
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| 21:34.01 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 21:34.02 | ibot | squishes burnin like a bug |
| 21:54.26 | mgeary_ | ~rlart |
| 21:54.27 | ibot | installs PocketPC on mgeary_'s PDA |
| 21:54.31 | mgeary_ | hey!! |
| 21:54.35 | SunSparc | heh |
| 22:27.59 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 22:28.14 | SunSparc | Wahuh?! |
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| 22:48.18 | itimber | I'm out guys.... catch ya'll later |
| 23:11.56 | Lone_Wanderer | macnewbold: ping |
| 23:12.35 | macnewbold | Lone_Wanderer: pong |
| 23:13.16 | Lone_Wanderer | what was the program you used to track time when I was with you guys? |
| 23:16.41 | stderr | Pivotal Tracker++ |
| 23:18.18 | Lone_Wanderer | Is ++ part of the name or are you saying you like it? |
| 23:18.41 | stderr | sayin I like it |
| 23:18.57 | Lone_Wanderer | k |
| 23:23.50 | SunSparc | Laterz |
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