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00:25.38mgearyanyone still around?
00:25.50mgearywho can explain to me the purpose of the SSLMutex apache directive?
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15:21.16thebigdogmorning all
15:22.23jsmithmorning thebigdog
15:22.57thebigdoghow you doing jsmith
15:23.31jsmithBusy but good... missing doing development, believe it or not
15:23.40thebigdoghehe i bet
15:23.49thebigdogdevelopment is a love hate relationship
15:24.03thebigdoglove to hate it and hate to love it
15:24.05justincarmony_lol, very very much a love hate relationship
15:24.33thebigdogactually i enjoy doing tons of development if i am not doing the same thing
15:24.46thebigdogi love to program and do sys admin work...that helps me stay sane
15:32.17jsmithNo kidding...
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15:40.09utahconwhat have you been doing jsmith ?
15:40.44jsmithutahcon: Training, and building a proper training department
15:41.12jsmithutahcon: (signing up training partners, building curriculum, automating classroom setup, etc.)
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16:16.52itimbermorning guys
16:22.42influxmornong
16:45.33beandogugh
16:45.42beandogtoday is one of those days where I shouldn't operate heavy machinery
16:46.17unumor edit the database?
16:46.26beandogthat too
16:52.24stderrhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/dataw0lf/3765512047/
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17:19.57beandogwhy are half my youtube recommendations suddenly about cops getting beat up?
17:19.58beandogwtc?
17:24.01stderrlink plz
17:24.27beandogwhat, of the video?
17:45.24Lone_WandererI want to see cops getting beat up
17:46.03beandogo.o
17:46.22Lone_WandererWhat?  It's cathartic.
17:48.09SunSparcSeeing people get beat up is cathartic?
17:48.21beandogSunSparc, no, getting beat up is
17:48.27Lone_WandererJust cops.
17:48.45SunSparcheh
17:48.51SunSparc~beat Lone_Wanderer
17:48.52ibotACTION relentlessly beats Lone_Wanderer over the head with a Louisville Slugger
17:49.04Lone_Wandererbut I am not a police officer!
17:50.06SunSparc~promote Lone_Wanderer to Police Officer
17:50.07Lone_WandererThat's not a promotion.
17:50.07SunSparcheh
17:50.07beandoglol
17:50.15beandogman, I need a burger today.
17:50.25Lone_WandererI need a Big Fat Chicken Taco from Del Taco.
17:50.29beandogShould I go to Five Guys or Chadders?
17:50.30beandogHmmm
17:50.42Lone_WandererFive Guys
17:50.49beandogbut they dont have shakes
17:50.50beandog:(
17:51.15Lone_WandererThey don't?
17:51.24Lone_WandererHow can a burger joint not have shakes?
17:51.39Lone_WandererAlso, Five Guys reminds me of a girl I saw the one and only time I went there.
17:51.48SunSparcThey must be killing the cows before they get the milk out of them.
17:52.24beandogLone_Wanderer, wait, waht?
17:52.26beandog~doubletake
17:52.33beandogLone_Wanderer, story time?
17:52.36Lone_Wandererwell, I don't want to sound like a pig so
17:52.39Lone_WandererI won't go into detail
17:52.45Lone_Wandererlet's just say she was very, very memorable
17:53.00beandogyou pig.
17:53.30stderrI'm going to In & Out
17:53.35stderrsince I'm moving Sunday, need to fill up
17:53.46beandogstderr, where you moving?
17:53.47Lone_Wandereryou're moving to SLC right?
17:53.55stderryup
17:54.15beandogSalt Lake Salt Lake or in the valley?
17:54.36stderrSalt Lake Salt Lake
17:54.42beandognice.
17:54.52beandogstderr, where to?
17:55.25stderrwell I'm living with optikal, tierra, and eco until I find a good place for me and my gf
17:55.58beandogoh okay
17:56.26beandogif you move down to provo, you can get student housing for $165/month
17:57.00Lone_WandererYeah, if you want to live in student housing.
17:57.01stderrdoubt they'd like our two dogs, three cats, snake, and my plans to build a river aquarium
17:57.10stderrplus I want a hot tub
17:57.40optikalHaving a hot tub is awesome. :D
17:57.43Lone_Wandererokay, eating time
17:57.54optikalYeah, I need to take care of food too... what to eat, hrmm.
17:58.06beandogstderr, a river aquarium?
17:58.10Lone_Wandererstderr: a river aquarium sounds awesome, if you want help building it let me know
17:58.30stderrbeandog: yea, an open aquarium with strata/layers
17:58.32stderrLone_Wanderer: fo sho
17:58.39beandogstderr, that sounds awesome, man
17:58.42stderrwith some trout and crawdads and stuff
17:59.11optikalI want to do something like this: http://aquariumspecials.com/images/tank_5.jpg
17:59.11beandogwith octopus!
17:59.23optikalMaking aquariums is pretty easy too~
17:59.34stderroptikal: we should get into aquarium nerdery together, I know absolutely nothing
17:59.38optikalstderr: I'm quite curious about your idea on this river aquarium, you should find a pic of something that closely resembles.
17:59.43optikalI know a lot.
17:59.50optikalWe had 6 50gal fish tanks growing up.
18:00.14optikalAll freshwater.   I want to get into saltwater tanks.
18:00.48optikalIt's all pretty simple stuff though.
18:00.53SunSparcoptikal: Are you small enough to fit in most saltwater tanks?
18:00.54beandogyah
18:01.00beandogjust put plenty of chlorine in there and youre good to go
18:01.05optikalSaltwater is a lot harder to set up and get stable, but maintenance is almost nothing where as freshwater is the opposite.
18:01.19optikalSunSparc: Yup, thankfully!
18:01.23SunSparc:)
18:01.40Lone_Wandererif I had crawdads in an aquarium
18:01.43Lone_WandererI would be tempted to eat them
18:02.00stderroptikal: basically a open biotope aquarium
18:02.01SunSparcLone_Wanderer: It could be your aquatic garden.
18:02.05stderrthink like three tanks at three elevation levels
18:02.27stderrwith a water pump(s) of some kind providing a river like flow from one to another
18:08.31optikalstderr: oooh!
18:08.50optikalstderr: I love them kind of tanks, never had anything like that... seems like a lot of fun.
18:08.53optikalI'm def down
18:10.21stderroptikal: yea, I know it's going to be a lot of work or whatever but seemed like a decent project to do indoors during the fall/early winter
18:10.57optikalFor sure.
18:11.04SunSparcHere is my salt water aquarium.  Kinda big, which makes it hard to transport when we move: http://tinyurl.com/nl93m7
18:13.43optikalHere is me cleaning my buddies saltwater aquarium, told you I could fit: http://www.theinternetjournalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/cleantank.jpg
18:13.48stderrhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/dataw0lf/3766287258/
18:13.59stderrjust vaca photos, nothin aquarium related
18:14.01SunSparcoptikal: heh, sweet
18:14.02optikalstderr: ugh.  Jealous!
18:14.35SunSparcstderr: beautiful!
18:15.41stderryea after work I'm gonna clean up a bunch more I got, plus import all the ones Kevin took into Lightroom
18:16.08stderroptikal: http://www.flickr.com/photos/dataw0lf/3765543069/
18:16.17stderroptikal: tellin ya, we gotta go there for Labor Day
18:16.55DexterTheDragonstderr: thats beautiful
18:17.04stderroptikal: we can do a 14 mile hike with some decent gain around / past that lake
18:17.13optikalQuite possibly.  I may have to put off one of my summit trips to do it, but I'm thinking the warm season will last a littler longer this year anyways should should be np
18:17.27stderrDexterTheDragon: yea, the Tetons rock
18:17.40optikalstderr: Sweet, lets look into it and plan out some details next week.
18:18.10stderroptikal: for sure, we should also get you a fly pole or train you on mine and see how you like it
18:18.14optikalSpeaking of which, I need to figure out if I'm doing Nebo on Sunday or not.
18:18.28optikalI have never fly fished... certainly willing to try it.
18:18.33optikalSeems more fun than norm fishing.
18:21.33stderrmuch more strategy and much easier to catch fish on a river
18:21.48optikalstderr: If I dont do it on Sunday, you down for Mt Nebo?  It's just under 7mi in and 5600ft gain, pretty brutal.
18:22.55stderrWow, yea, I'm down
18:23.20optikalAlso, the catch... no reliable water sources, so you have to pack it all with you.
18:24.18stderrNice
18:24.43stderrmaintained trail?
18:25.32optikalMostly.
18:25.53mgearyhey fungus
18:26.19stderrwondering if I can it off in trailrunners
18:26.23stderrpull it off*
18:26.36romanovicyou can float columns in the left and right margins of the main content right?
18:27.02fungusWhat's up mgeary
18:27.05optikalI wouldn't try.
18:27.22stderrdamn
18:27.27optikalSome pretty steap parts from what I've read... you'll want the ankle support, esp for the way down.
18:27.27stderrI really like these trailrunners
18:28.27stderrand I was wrong about my Salomons, these are what I got: http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___19270?CS_003=2450921&CS_010=19270
18:28.27optikalbrb, going to grab lunch
18:56.09SunSparcWhat kind of frame do you hikers prefer on your packs?  Internal or external?
19:00.36tierraI'd say external if camping, no frame if just hiking
19:01.08unumit seems like the internal give you more room
19:01.18unumI'm going soon and I have an old external frame
19:01.25unummy boss told me I could borrow his internal frame
19:06.18SunSparcI am a Scout leader and looking for a good new pack, so looking at all the billions of options.  Most of our hikes are day hikes, but we also have overnight hikes and a few multiday trips.
19:06.39SunSparcI used to have a cheap external frame when I was younger.
19:26.08optikalSunSparc: If you need the room, heavier loads, or just a cheaper options... I'd go external, they're the most popular.  Internal are best for hiking rough terrain where you need the back very stable and tight against you
19:27.53SunSparcoptikal: Good feedback, thanks.
19:29.03optikalWhen I do day hikes I have an ultralight frameless pack that I love... http://www.rei.com/product/748229
19:31.51SunSparcLooks like a really nice bag.
19:40.10mindjujuthat does look cool
19:40.18mindjujui love jansport though
19:51.43beandoghttp://mashable.com/2009/07/28/shirts-taste-good/
19:51.51beandogI only got half of those.
19:51.53beandog-_-
20:04.58beandoghttp://www.yousuckatcraigslist.com/
20:05.23beandogoh my freaking crap thats funnty
20:05.27beandog*funny
20:06.10mindjujui like the surfboards
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20:11.53beandoghttp://www.yousuckatcraigslist.com/?p=2645
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21:26.21beandogI wonder how well this would work: http://tinyurl.com/lhjh65
21:27.36SunSparcProbably already being done internally with many external drive enclosures.
21:28.20mindjujudoes usb 2 support sata speeds  3/gbps?
21:28.28mindjujui forget the max speed of usb 2
21:29.58beandogI dont think its even as fast as SATA I
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21:30.33beandoghttp://www.everythingusb.com/usb2/faq.htm
21:30.55mindjujucuriously, i just pulled up that same site
21:31.00beandogheh
21:31.08beandog"For all we know, USB interface could become become the bottleneck for flash drives as early as 2008."
21:31.19Lone_WandererHas it?
21:31.42mindjujuyeah
21:31.42beandogI need to find a bunch of those eSATA brackets
21:32.34mindjujuso it says that the max of usb 2 is 480Mbps where SATA transfer speeds are 3 Gbps
21:32.52mindjujuthough i'msure both are theoritical speeds
21:35.28mindjujubeandog, you like battlestar galactica?
21:35.33mindjujui know thebigdog did
21:35.42beandogmindjuju, never seen it
21:36.00mindjujuwell, here is your chance to see it on the cheap
21:36.00mindjujuhttp://slickdeals.net/permadeal/22977
21:36.43beandogeek, spendy
21:44.14beandogeh Ill just get eSATA enclosurs
21:44.18beandogUSB is gonna be too slow
21:44.24beandogI think.
21:46.26beandogmaybe not
21:46.33beandogI only need like 6MB/s
22:05.05DexterTheDragonmindjuju: beandog usb3 is like 4.8Gbit/sec
22:05.30mindjujudat cool!
22:07.43beandogDexterTheDragon, meh, gotta buy new hardware
22:09.42beandoghow's that?
22:10.05SunSparcOuch!  That took longer than a second.  :)
22:10.20beandogI think the latency is on your end
22:10.24SunSparclol
22:10.51beandoghttp://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/08/data-transfer-via-sn.html
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22:11.18SunSparcrofl
22:11.28beandog:)
22:28.10beandogDexterTh1Dragon, you getting a house?
22:28.22DexterTh1Dragonbeandog: yeep
22:28.35beandogDexterTh1Dragon, is that so you can tell people to get off the lawn?
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22:29.12DexterTheDragonpretty much
22:29.20beandogI'd say thats worth it.
22:29.29beandogDexterTheDragon, wheres it at?
22:29.34DexterTheDragonlayton
22:30.07beandogLayton, nooooooooooooo!
22:30.13beandogwhere's that?
22:30.29DexterTheDragonbelow clearfield
22:30.36beandogthat's not helping.
22:32.02DexterTheDragonhttp://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=layton&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=12&iwloc=A
22:32.05unumno it's below hill air force base
22:32.20unumclearfield is west of layton
22:32.25unumok maybe north west
22:32.38DexterTheDragoneh, by freeway its below
22:32.42unumI guess the west side of layton is south of clearfield....
22:32.49beandoghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzkMX-M5UxI
22:32.54unumbut no one important lives there
22:33.17unum:)
22:33.41unumbeandog: get a condo and become a REALLY cranky neighbor
22:33.53DexterTheDragonyou could complain about loud music
22:34.26beandogoh thats up there
22:34.33beandogI'm usually the one that's too loud
22:34.41beandogwatching sci-fi movies laaaaaaaate at night really loud
22:34.48beandogIm sure my neighbors hate me.
22:35.24unumjust in case anyone is wondering layton is where the rest of my family lives....
22:35.27unumor atleast close
22:51.29justincarmony_herlo
22:51.32justincarmony_pm
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23:10.12SunSparcNight all!
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23:14.54thebigdogDexterTheDragon: you should come live by me
23:20.34mgearyDexterTheDragon: just stay away from his 3-year-old....
23:20.59thebigdoghaha 4yr old
23:21.02thebigdoghe will kill you
23:21.54mgearyibot: thebigdog is also looooves MSSQL databases
23:21.55ibotokay, mgeary
23:22.00mgeary~thebigdog
23:22.01ibotit has been said that thebigdog is the postgreSQL guru, a GWAR groupie, or secretly loves AOL, or a lover of cursors, or now 33.  Frank Black, or looooves MSSQL databases
23:22.12thebigdogmgeary: you are about ready to get kicked
23:22.12thebigdoghehe
23:22.27innocentbystandedang char limit
23:24.05thebigdoghaha
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