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03:10.50mastergunnshey all, what is the best practice for passing a value to a page for use in a database query? user clicks on a button, I want to execute an ajax call to get a specific record.
03:12.00mastergunnsnot really looking how to use, but to limit risk and improve security
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14:51.38herlomindjuju: herro
14:52.06mindjujuhowdy!
14:52.13herlomindjuju: how's things today?
14:52.32herlomindjuju: http://register.utos.org/reg6/ <-- still in testing, but getting close to going live :)
14:53.02mindjujuwhy do i even try?
14:53.32herlomindjuju: haha, yeah, I won't do it
14:53.42herloit's just not worth the hassles
14:53.48mindjujuand why is ravetrax.com playing garbage this morning
14:53.50orsonjJust get permission to come in 15 minutes late and save yourself an hour of grief.
14:54.10mindjujuorsonj, as long as i get here by 11, everything / everybody cool
14:54.31mindjujubut today i wanted to get in early, 8:10 or so
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15:01.06unumherlo: you still at applegate
15:01.36herlounum: I am
15:01.42herlounum: how's things man?
15:01.46unumalright
15:01.53herlogood dealio
15:01.58unumI've been telling everyone this week about moving the previous tennant of your place
15:02.03unumI'm still bitter
15:02.42herlowhy?
15:02.52herloI remember that you helped them move
15:02.53unumshe was on a cruise
15:02.58herlooh, right
15:03.13mindjujuwas she a hawty?
15:03.30unumnot bad, I had asked her out several month earlier and she turned me down
15:03.35unumshe moving out to move to ohio
15:04.12herlooh, well, that's not fun
15:04.25herlothose that lived here
15:04.34mindjujuohio == party state
15:04.38mindjujunot
15:05.30unumya I don't miss them :)
15:05.51unumI helped move two girls this last week
15:06.08unumthe one I do like, I just need her to get rid of the baby's daddy
15:06.31unumsupposedly he's not moving with her this time
15:08.11herlogl, dating is tough
15:08.30unumya
15:08.39unumand being alone sucks
15:09.01unumjust got myself invited over to her place
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15:09.48justincarmonyGooood morning :)
15:09.56unumgood morning to you
15:09.57unumjerk
15:10.00unum:)
15:10.07justincarmony:O
15:10.10justincarmony:P
15:14.54herlouh, okay
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15:27.16justincarmonyworking from home today, the AC is broken at the office :P
15:28.30mindjuju~give justincarmony a working AC unit
15:28.31ibotACTION gives a working AC unit to justincarmony
15:31.04justincarmonythanks mindjuju :)
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15:47.06mindjujusome of these costumes are really really good
15:48.57justincarmonyI should have gone
15:51.09mindjujulooks like it'd be fun
15:51.21mindjujuthough i'd never do cosplay
15:52.15mindjujuhere are pics, i recognized prolly 1/5 of them
15:52.16mindjujuhttp://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/comiccon_2009_cosplay_gallery_600_amazing_costumes?page=0%2C0
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16:00.23justincarmonythose are insane mindjuju
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18:01.21stderr'ello gents
18:01.31itimbersup
18:01.36mindjujusup stderr
18:01.41stderrnot much
18:01.57stderrburnt to a crisp from 9 days of hiking, fly fishing, and kayaking
18:02.00mindjujuwhen is it that you move to the SLC?
18:02.05stderrmindjuju: this Sunday
18:02.11mindjujuawesome!
18:04.16stderrhttp://progit.org/book/
18:05.09DexterTheDragonstderr: sweeet
18:06.17stderrDexterTheDragon: fo sho
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19:17.16SunSparc~woof
19:17.17ibotextra, extra, read all about it, woof is the sound a dog makes.
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20:19.37justincarmonyok, weird....
20:20.05justincarmonymy PC's network card just stopped working
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20:23.11justincarmonyhow was your trip utahcon ?
20:23.23mindjujudid utahcon fall down?
20:23.53utahconjustincarmony: it was... something
20:24.03utahconspent over 10 hrs on the $1 blackjack tables
20:24.19justincarmonyWOW
20:24.20utahconin that 10 hrs I ranged from +$50 to -$8
20:24.21mindjujudid you hitchhike home?
20:24.22justincarmonysorry, caps*
20:24.31stderrdollar blackjack tables?
20:24.39stderrwhere were you playing, the kiddie pool?
20:24.46utahconstderr: Sahara promo
20:24.53Lone_Wandererutahcon: where did you stop?
20:25.09utahconLone_Wanderer: -$8
20:25.30Lone_Wanderergood place to quit
20:25.41utahconHit the pool at the Golden Nugget... the shark tank is bad ass
20:25.44utahconI suggest it.
20:26.08utahconWent and watched the Belagio fountains with the youngins again... they loved it.
20:26.16utahconate at Jean Philipes again... love it.
20:26.38utahconJean Philipes if you don't know http://www.bellagio.com/restaurants/jean-philippe.aspx
20:26.52utahconhttp://www.jpchocolates.com/ better site
20:27.40utahconthe sites only fancy their chocolates... but they make AMAZING pastries as well.
20:28.11utahconI have made it a staple of my Vegas Vacations.
20:28.50utahconother than that... trip was pretty mundane :D
20:29.18utahconhow was everyone else's Pioneer Day weekends?
20:29.28stderrI just got off a 9 day vacation
20:29.42stderrforgot about your guys Pioneer Day
20:30.55utahconstderr: I am offended... I had too until I returned home to news of a parade etc... lol
20:31.26Lone_Wandererhas anyone here ever pulled a muscle?
20:31.32stderrLone_Wanderer: Many
20:31.39utahconLone_Wanderer: tons
20:31.41Lone_WandererHow can I tell if I pulled one?
20:31.46utahconDoes it hurt?
20:31.50Lone_WandererOh yeah.
20:32.00utahconCan you move it?
20:32.05Lone_Wandererbut only if I stretch it.  if I keep the joint bent, it's fine.
20:32.23utahconEither pulled or bruised it sounds like
20:32.24Lone_Wandererwell, it's actually in my groin somewhere, so... I don't know if I can move it
20:32.32stderrwell that's a shame
20:32.34Lone_Wandererif I stand up straight
20:32.37Lone_Wandererit hurts
20:32.40utahconLone_Wanderer: worse place ever!
20:32.42Lone_Wandereryeah
20:32.45Lone_WandererI don't even know what I did
20:32.51Lone_Wandererbut if I stand a little hunched it's okay
20:32.55stderrprobably just strained
20:32.56stderrice it
20:32.57Lone_Wanderertry to stand up straight and it hurts
20:33.04Lone_Wandererman, that's the last place I want ice but
20:33.04Lone_Wandererokay
20:33.14stderribuprofen and ice
20:33.21Lone_WandererI can't take NSAIDs
20:33.30Lone_WandererI mean I can but
20:33.30utahconibuprofen is the bomb
20:33.33Lone_Wandererno
20:33.42Lone_Wandereribuprofen, if you're working out, is the last thing you want to take
20:34.02utahconLone_Wanderer: Are you working out?
20:34.03stderrwell if it's a pulled muscle you're going to end up taking ibuprofen anyway
20:34.17Lone_Wandererit shuts down exactly the chemical processes that repair and rebuild muscle
20:34.30Lone_Wandereryeah, I hurt it on Friday sometime, not sure which exercise did it though
20:34.55stderrwhen you stand up does it feel like it's spasming almost?
20:35.13Lone_Wandererno
20:35.30Lone_Wandererit feels just like stretching a muscle that I worked out the day before
20:35.32Lone_Wandereronly worse
20:35.39stderrI'm gonna go with strained/bruised then.
20:35.50Lone_Wandererk
20:36.23stderrgroin muscles when you pull em it'll sound and feel like you just broke a rubber band in your body, and they'll spasm a lot too
20:36.46Lone_Wandererso I'd basically know immediately?
20:36.50stderroh yea
20:36.52Lone_Wandererok
20:36.59Lone_WandererI didn't feel this until the next day when I got out of bed
20:37.11stderroh yea, it's not a pulled muscle.  When you pull a muscle, it's instant
20:37.17Lone_Wandererkk
20:51.21Lone_Wandererokay, the GI Bill thing is pissing me off
20:52.32stderrwhy's that
20:52.48Lone_Wanderertrying to find information about it (at least, the info I want) is frustrating.
20:52.48PoeticIntensitybecause your mom isn't in it anymore.
20:52.52PoeticIntensityooooh!
20:53.12stderrwhat info you need
20:53.54Lone_WandererThe unit says to talk to the school.  The school says to talk to the unit.
20:54.07stderrah. *shrugs*
20:54.19Lone_WandererWill it pay for online classes, and how many credit hours do I need to be enrolled for in order to get the benefits
20:54.55Lone_Wandereralso, how do I sign up, is there a time limit on it (if it takes me more than four years start to finish because I can't be enrolled the entire time, etc.) and other general questions
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20:55.00stderrsome online classes, and depends on the school
20:55.11stderryou should talk to the VA
20:55.15Lone_Wandereryeah, I'm trying to
20:55.35Lone_WandererI've been going there/calling for like a week (The VA office at BYU) and they're not there or they won't answer
20:55.44stderryea
20:55.47stderrthat's the VA for ya
20:56.06Lone_WandererSo basically I have to escalate
20:56.06stderrjust plan on it taking a year to get everything in order, heh
20:56.34Lone_Wandererjust get more and more insistent until they finally cave in and do their job
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21:54.16itimberso, I'm looking at Prototype as a solution for AJAX calls to a php script
21:54.33itimberanyone have a simple, working copy of code that I could use as a foundation?
21:55.12beandogread the docs, they are excellent
21:55.20beandogwhat did you have in mind though
21:55.22beandogits really simple
21:55.26beandogjust have php parse the post/get request
21:55.28beandogreturn HTML
21:55.29beandogor test
21:55.34beandog*text
21:55.36beandogand that's it
21:56.25beandogLone_Wanderer, thats why I never bother looking at mine
21:56.42itimberwell, I'm good on the PHP side.... and probably good on the JS....
21:56.56Lone_Wandererwell, I do like to know what's going on
21:57.03Lone_Wanderermake sure I'm not behind on anything, etc.
21:57.16itimberwas just thinking of copy/pasting rather than building the groundwork
21:57.17Lone_WandererI really would prefer to write a Python script (or something) that figures all this stuff out for me htough
21:57.21itimberon the JS side
21:57.40Lone_Wandereritimber: trying to get something working without actually having to understand the JS?
21:57.51itimberno....
21:58.18Lone_Wandererthat's what I keep hoping for
21:58.29Lone_Wandererbut I'm lazy
21:58.32itimberI've been studying some documentation on Prototype all morn
21:58.41itimberLOL
21:59.25itimberI'll check the docs.... been reading one by O'Reilly, and is good
21:59.46Lone_WandererI just need to learn JS.
22:00.01Lone_WandererThen pick a good library, like the one people here keep saying is great whose name I can't remember
22:00.11Lone_Wandererand learn the library
22:00.12stderrjQuery, I'm sure.
22:00.16Lone_Wandereryes, that's the one
22:00.39itimberis jquery better for ajax?
22:00.39Lone_Wandererbut buckling down and actually doing it is harder than playing Age of Mythology and watching SG-1, and nobody is paying me to do anything with either of them, so it hasn't gotten done yet.
22:00.56itimberI've used it on a few projects, but haven't seen any ajax stuff
22:01.14Lone_WandererI've had good luck with it
22:01.17itimberLOL Lone_Wanderer
22:01.30beandogbetter is subjective
22:01.37beandogIm sure whichever one you learn first is "better"
22:02.36Lone_Wandererokay you know what?
22:02.40Lone_Wandererscrew this PHP stuff
22:02.44Lone_WandererI'm writing this script lisp-style
22:02.57DexterTheDragonyes. screw php!
22:02.59Lone_WandererI don't care if eval does hog memory and processor time
22:03.05SunSparc~lart PHP
22:03.05ibotblasts PHP to oblivion with a kamehameha wave
22:03.10Lone_WandererI am not going to write the same line of code fifteen times
22:03.25Lone_Wandererwhen I could spend just as much time writing and debugging a macro
22:03.32DexterTheDragonecho '$data = "foobar"; $key = "test"; var_dump(isset($data[$key]));' | php -a
22:03.35SunSparcWe should change the channel name to #ulispu
22:03.43DexterTheDragonthat's still makes me angry
22:03.49Lone_WandererWe should *form* a Utah Lisp User's Group.
22:03.52Lone_WandererThat would be awesome.
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22:03.54beandogDexterTheDragon, what?
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22:04.39DexterTheDragonbeandog: run that line on a shell
22:04.44beandogDexterTheDragon, yah?
22:04.48DexterTheDragonthen read the line and realize what its doing
22:05.09beandogDexterTheDragon, whats the problem?  php doesn't parse stuff through a pipe
22:05.21DexterTheDragonthats a bash command
22:05.57DexterTheDragonruns a snippet through the php cli, since the php cli can't run snippets itself
22:06.14beandogyou totally lost me.
22:06.22beandogbut, thats the kind of mode my brain is in right now.
22:06.30SunSparcI just ran that on my cli and it returned nothing.
22:06.31Lone_WandererSmoke less weed.
22:06.32romanovicbeandog, be optimistic.  php doesn't parse stuff through a pipe *yet*
22:06.38Lone_Wanderer;)
22:06.49DexterTheDragonromanovic: rofl
22:08.06SunSparc$stuff = 'weed'; smoke($stuff); | mouth(inhale)
22:08.11DexterTheDragonSunSparc: could be your interactive php shell, its a willy beast
22:10.14itimberconfirm($is_medicinal);
22:10.18itimber:)
22:10.31SunSparc:)  Good call
22:11.46DexterTheDragonSunSparc: try this one: echo '<?php $data = "foobar"; $key = "test"; var_dump(isset($data[$key]));' | php -a
22:11.58DexterTheDragonI forgot the old shells were lame like that
22:12.16SunSparcbool(true)
22:12.26SunSparceh?
22:12.33DexterTheDragonyep
22:12.38SunSparcwonky
22:13.00DexterTheDragonthats why I hate php
22:13.39DexterTheDragonI had three times last week where scenario's like that bit me
22:14.02SunSparc~console DexterTheDragon
22:14.03ibotACTION gives DexterTheDragon the consolation moose
22:14.13SunSparcPerhaps this will help you smile:  http://www65.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=what+would+you+do+for+a+klondike+bar
22:14.51DexterTheDragonno a pre-programmed search engine doesn't entertain me
22:15.10SunSparc:(
22:15.49SunSparcHow about...
22:15.54SunSparc~wedgie mgeary
22:15.55ibotACTION hangs mgeary from the flag pole by his underwear
22:16.01mgearyaaahhhhhhh
22:16.11SunSparclol
22:19.57orsonjhttp://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=1712
22:20.08orsonj"Leo Laporte, President of the Internet, names his cabinet"
22:22.25Lone_WandererPresident of the Internet?  I didn't vote for him!
22:22.43SunSparcI would vote for him over Gore any day.
22:23.27Lone_WandererI suppose some woman lying in a pond threw a sword at him.
22:23.40SunSparcLOL!!!
22:23.59SunSparcSome wartry tort.
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22:58.26mgearyhey fungus
22:58.58fungushey mgeary
22:58.58mgearyhow do you do sub-sub-domains? Is that just one DNS Record of "bleh.blah" ?
22:58.59mgearyor is it more complex?
22:58.59fungusnope, that works just fine
22:59.04mgearycool, thanks
22:59.41fungusIf you have lots of records in a subdomain, you can use the "$ORIGIN blah" statement to set it as the default
23:00.24SunSparcNight all!
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23:06.21itimberI'm out.... later guys

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